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MrFreeman
04-13-2004, 04:52 PM
David Freeman has entered the Machineflesh 2D Challenge.

MrFreeman
04-20-2004, 11:39 AM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/3288/3288_1082457595_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/3288/3288_1082457595_large.jpg)

This is a sketch which explores how machine can merge with muscle tissue, etc.

I also had the strange idea of a future scenario where you can buy nanotechnology to enhance your pet fish or cat - sort of sprinkle your pet with nanopet enhancer and watch them change...

MrFreeman
04-20-2004, 11:45 AM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/3288/3288_1082457939_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/3288/3288_1082457939_large.jpg)

This is another quicker sketch on the fish theme, but with the idea that through evolution, the fish has merged with ordinary items thrown into its habitat. Muscles wrap around parts of an old coke can and other pieces of debris and rubbish.

Squibbit
04-20-2004, 11:46 AM
although I like the first idea much , too ,
you might come up with more unusual , weird
and interseting stuff with this second , yes ?

MrFreeman
04-20-2004, 04:50 PM
I totally agree....I do need to develop both ideas a lot further.

These sketches were to help me work out how organic life and machinery could merge - and I thought I should get some images posted.

The ideas are filling my head and I need a quiet hour at work to put these to paper....could be a busy evening

:)

MrFreeman
04-21-2004, 05:00 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/3288/3288_1082563250_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/3288/3288_1082563250_large.jpg)

Bit busy at work today, but here is a quick 10 minute sketch showing the perspective and environment I hope to use.

The idea is that in the future kids will be able to buy kits from their local corner shop containing nanobots / technology. Similar to trading cards, but a lot more fun??

You can add these to a pet or organic lifeform to enhance them. A sort of virtual / real pet that you can take to the playground and fight with a friends creation - or just watch evolve.

Anything is possible...increase intelligence, add weopons, change colour, add limbs, etc.

As soon as the nanobots come into contact with the organic lifeform, they start to work together to change the lifeform before your very eyes.

I hope to work on detail over the next few days, so should have something better soon.

The image depicts a girl and boy working on their pet fish (though creature may change).

Light, shadow and low camera angle should give a atmospheric and slightly sinister feel.

neble
04-25-2004, 02:43 AM
Not sure if I'm a fan of the pulled away sketch. It kinda detaches the viewer from the main focus, the fish. It might show up better if you saw a closeup of the fish and the refracted hands working on the fish in the background. I'm glad that your breaking away from the human cyborg thing. Seen to many of them...

MrFreeman
04-26-2004, 04:26 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/3288/3288_1082993161_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/3288/3288_1082993161_large.jpg)

This sketch develops lighting and the environment.

The aim is to have lots of gadgets and apparatus in the foreground, casting strange shadows over the room and two children. It still needs to be weirder and creepy but I'm slowly getting there...

There's still a long long way to go....

M25Driver
04-26-2004, 08:06 PM
I haven't actually entered the 2D competition, I'm doing the 3D one, but I was browsing here. I really like your sketches, especially the first one.

Keep up the good work and good luck.

MrFreeman
05-14-2004, 11:07 PM
:cry: My work has all gone and I've lost my Avatar as I'm down by 22 posts......still on a good note, hopefully no one will remember the last drawing I put up which was a little bit dodgy.

Oh Well let the challenge continue...:beer:

MrFreeman
05-17-2004, 01:44 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/3288/3288_1084797897_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/3288/3288_1084797897_large.jpg)

Here is a very early colour version of the previous sketch.

The detail of the fish and experiment are still to be added.

I am also working on a slightly more dynamic composition where the fish is in the foreground with the scene looking up towards the children from below.

It's a bit manic at work at present, but I hope to have line artwork complete within the next week - if only I could spend all day on this...

MrFreeman
05-17-2004, 01:49 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/3288/3288_1084798158_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/3288/3288_1084798158_large.jpg)

This is just a colour test using my first sketch to get an idea of how muscle and skin merges with machine and how colour can really enhance the look.

imager777
05-19-2004, 03:33 PM
I like where this is going, but will you be able to show that much mechanical detail in the finished image? The fish was looking pretty small compared to all the other elements, in the worms eye view.

MrFreeman
05-20-2004, 11:20 AM
:hmm: Thanks for your advice....That's the big dilema at present...trying to focus on the fish concept whilst including the wider picture. I'm having a slight battle with composition at present.

I expect I'll opt for a wide angle shot with fish in foreground with a child towering over it, looking up towards the ceiling - extreme angles and hopefully a dynamic image.

Times ticking on - if only I didn't have to go to work....

MrFreeman
05-21-2004, 09:14 AM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/3288/3288_1085127294_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/3288/3288_1085127294_large.jpg)

Only 28 days to go and I'm still messing around with sketches...here is one of hands working on fish. I've been struggling with trying to get all the elements I want into one composition, so though I'm nearly there, these sketches help me through that process.

MrFreeman
05-21-2004, 09:21 AM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/3288/3288_1085127699_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/3288/3288_1085127699_large.jpg)

Having had a break from this due to work getting in the way, I feel I can now tackle this head on. The nain problem has been achieving a composition where the angle is extreme enough to have the fish in as much detail in the foreground with children behind working on the fish.

This is a very quick sketch to help work out angles and to show the composition I would like, is possible.

If I can now get my son to stand still long enough to draw him from floor level looking up, I'll be in business and be able to start on final image...

MrFreeman
05-26-2004, 11:54 AM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/3288/3288_1085568879_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/3288/3288_1085568879_large.jpg)

Having managed to sketch my son at the right angle (which is not an easy process!!), here is a development of the sketch with basic elements in place.

There's lots to do still. The whole piece lacks depth and the fish which is the central focus needs working up.

The hand is now slightly to big and also an adults hand (Mine) so needs reworking.

MrFreeman
05-26-2004, 11:59 AM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/3288/3288_1085569166_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/3288/3288_1085569166_large.jpg)

Here is an update of the last image with some details / block colour added to the fish.

I've added more blue to the background to try and add more depth.

Usually I would sketch all the detail first, but I'm enjoying using Painter which is far more fun than Photoshop in terms of brushes and how they flow.

Still a long way to go, but hopefully I'm more on track.

Any feed back would be welcome...

feeesh
05-26-2004, 06:46 PM
cool idea. I like how you added the blue hues as well, adds alot to the piece. I like the angleof the piece too and the eye flows to the fish well. Nice color shoices overall. Don't really see anything to critique at this point, hopefully I can contribute more when you start tightening it up adding details.

-Jason Hall

MrFreeman
05-26-2004, 07:16 PM
:) Thanks for giving me some feedback...

early days, but I should have developed the image enough to post something soon

...

Russo
05-27-2004, 09:25 AM
interesting idea/compostion/colors! keep going!

cheers

MrFreeman
05-27-2004, 02:28 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/3288/3288_1085664484_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/3288/3288_1085664484_large.jpg)

This is a section of the fish, showing detail that I am working on. I'm concentrating on merging flesh and metal at the moment, which is beginning to work.

Still a long way to go but things are coming along.

As I'm sat in a dark room on my own whilst doing this, any feedback is welcome (most anyway)

The-13
05-27-2004, 11:26 PM
This is some amazing stuff! I really love the very first sketch. The idea is amazing and you are developing it pretty dang well. Good work old chap! keep it up...

MrFreeman
05-28-2004, 04:52 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/3288/3288_1085759529_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/3288/3288_1085759529_large.jpg)

Having added some detail to the fish, I'm now working on the area around the fish.

I've added more blue as the composition seemed a bit busy before.

I have also strated adding water dripping off the lights and work surface.

There is still a lot to do but feedback about whether I'm heading in the right direction or not would be greatly recieved

londero
05-28-2004, 10:48 PM
Your art is

Bizarre;

Insane;

Inspirational;

Amazing.

Man, really it is a incridible work. Awesome expression, colors, all the composition. Congratulations!!!

I will keep my eyes in your job!:applause: :applause: :applause:

FORCE!

my entry (http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=141195)

anildawre
05-29-2004, 09:29 AM
good detailed work, u have almost completed the job. cant wait to see the complete image. fantastic concept:applause: :applause:

MrFreeman
05-29-2004, 11:25 AM
Thanks for all your comments - this is truly a global competition and great to see so much great work in one site.

londero - thanks for your feedback - really love your work which makes the comments even more inspiring.

Anildawre - Thanks for your comments - sorry i've not had a chance to look at your entry (if you've entered) but I've a bit of free time, so can have a real good chance to look at more of the entries today

:beer: :)

galaxian
05-29-2004, 12:35 PM
The blue light reflecting looks really cool. And I also mean cool in the true sense of the word. You could even imagine that the fish has been put on ice, like a fish market or like they do to some animals during surgery, animals that can't regulate their body temperature while under. A light mist hovering over the surgical bench, moisture dripping from the lamp and pooling on the bench.
Sorry, getting a little carried away there.
I think it's clear you've really got my imagination cooking. :applause:
Fish fillets anyone? :D

Falcorr
05-29-2004, 08:01 PM
Hi:wavey:

I was just thinking of replying you. I have to say that the kid on the background really looks real. Nice tones in it.

Fish teeth closeup looks good:)

Its obvious this one will be worth many of these :drool: when it gets finished. Lots of defining left it seems. That hand will be one of the realism bits in it. So make sure it counts :wip:

eupee
06-01-2004, 11:11 AM
this is awsome, i love the composition.. the boy looks menacing and curious. its cool

MrFreeman
06-02-2004, 12:17 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/3288/3288_1086175071_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/3288/3288_1086175071_large.jpg)

Not had much time to work on this over the last few days, but I managed to sort hand out so it looks like a child's hand (trying to draw a toddlers hand when they won't sit still for a minute is a bit of a challenge!!).

Still unsure whether to include top of composition (not shown here) as it increases feel of perspective and wide angle, but detracts from fish which is central focus for image.

I would also like to add glass containers in foreground through which you can see parts of fish magnified and distorted.

Any feedback would be much appreciated...

0-2
06-02-2004, 12:35 PM
It's very good:thumbsup: The hand bothers me though, the fingers seem wormy:shrug:

MrFreeman
06-02-2004, 01:24 PM
:hmm: I see what you mean... I expect a bit of work on the lighting might help along with working on joints. The light on the underside of the fingers makes them look rounder than they should be.

Thanks for your input 0-2... Hopefully I can post an updated version later in day, though work has an annoying habit in getting in the way of progress.

cuppacam
06-02-2004, 01:29 PM
Really interesting pic. I agree about the hand. Wormy. Also the pinky is a bit long. I think. Eyes are blurred from the comp.

MrFreeman
06-02-2004, 01:52 PM
Thanks Cuppacam

Better get on with that hand...and look at the eyes...when I did the original sketches for the face, I only put in reference points for the eyes due to how long children remain fairly still for. I added the eyes in afterwards and always thought they looked a bit weird.

I havn't put original sketches for face and hands up as WIP, but will do so when I get a chance just to show development to this point.

Thanks for your advice - you get too close to something after a while and it's good to have help to get things right.

MrFreeman
06-02-2004, 04:54 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/3288/3288_1086191687_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/3288/3288_1086191687_large.jpg)

The hand has been bugging me all day, so despite being busy at work, I've tried to get rid of the worm like fingers and make it more hand-like in appearance. I'm not used to drawing chidren's hands and this is more tricky than drawing the face.

There's a long way to go and I'll try and post something more finished soon.

0-2
06-02-2004, 07:20 PM
Some suggestions, mmm...OK if it were up to me I think I would...make the middle finger the longest finger, the index finger would be the same size as the ring finger and the pinky would be a wee bit smaller, I like the look of the pinky though. You can do it:bounce:

MrFreeman
06-02-2004, 07:55 PM
Thanks 0-2...

it's more tricky due to the wide angle perspective that i sketched the hand in (finger next to thumb is closer than middle finger so appears longer).....will work on this tonight until it works...hopefully

I'll get there in the end:cry: :)

bumskee
06-03-2004, 07:25 AM
This is awsome!!!!!!!! I can taste fear in its eye. nice colours too :thumbsup:

MrFreeman
06-03-2004, 09:57 AM
:) Cheers Bumskee

After a bit of a sleepless night trying to sort out some of the remaining problems, I should have something more to post later today...

if only I didn't have so much work to do...:wavey:

MrFreeman
06-03-2004, 05:15 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/3288/3288_1086279333_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/3288/3288_1086279333_large.jpg)

Well I've managed to get a bit further...so here's the latest version.

I've spent some time working on the hand, but even with adjustments to fingers, etc., it seemed too seperate from the rest of the image. I've now added a control device to the hand which helps explain visually the perspective of the hand - and also links the boy more closely with the fish. The wires help lead the eye to the main subject matter.

In addition, I've started to work on the boy's body and altered his eyes slightly.

There is still lots to do and once i'm happy with the overall look, I'll zoom in and work up some of the details that are looking very rough at present.

Thanks for all comments so far which have really helped...

MrFreeman
06-03-2004, 05:26 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/3288/3288_1086279970_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/3288/3288_1086279970_large.jpg)

Just a close up of above showing a bit more detail - I'll try and link future images through my website so the quality is a little better.

All comments really welcome

neble
06-04-2004, 05:58 AM
Your image has really come along. I especially like your use of colors. I'm just not sure what the object is in the upper right corner, is it a broom or some sort of blade.... Looks cool though.

MrFreeman
06-04-2004, 11:43 PM
:) Thanks for your comments Neble

I'm still not sure what's going on in the right hand corner. Originally this was another device to operate on the fish, but the angle might be slightly extreme now the picture has developed.

Another artist from Austin, TX - seems to be a bit of a capital of the concept world...was hoping to go on the conceptart.org training week in Austin, but just can't make it due to work...:thumbsup:

neble
06-05-2004, 12:00 AM
Yup there's a few artist here, in general. I'm more of a 3D artist then 2D. I shouldn't have left the 2D behind, cause now a days I see how important it is.

Too bad your not able to make it to the training weekend, it's sure to have a lot of talent showing up in one place. Could be pretty cool. I think I'm looking forward to seeing Sparth show something, the most. There's something about his work...

Anywho, good stuff.

MrFreeman
06-08-2004, 01:13 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/3288/3288_1086696794_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/3288/3288_1086696794_large.jpg)

Time is rapidly dissapearing and there is still a lot to do...

Despite work being hectic, I'm managing to start to complete additional details. I've added elements on the right of composition, including the start of packaging for the Nanopet kit (which kids can buy from there local store). The metal textures are taking time as are getting the angles right due to the wide angle perspective.

I hope to have all detail completed within 2-3 days, so I can concentrate on final colours and extras such as shafts of sunlight coming through the window.....panic...better get on

Newke
06-09-2004, 12:54 PM
Very great work, i love the composition, the mood, and the concept idea :applause:

Good luck Mr Freeman !! :thumbsup:

paulwdavidson
06-09-2004, 01:04 PM
Looking good.

Congratulations.

Paul

OrcOYoyo
06-09-2004, 01:37 PM
Hehe :) our concept isn't that different. well your nanopet didn't take over control but you know what i mean :)
good perspective too and i also like the colours you used.

also good luck to you for your entry :)
there are so many great pictures out there no easy task for the judges for sure :)

MrFreeman
06-09-2004, 03:11 PM
Thanks for all your comments OrcOYoyo, Paul and Newke....

In light of the amazing work I've come across in this challenge, such comments are really appreciated...

I'm sneaking in a few hours at work to finish more detail so I can post something more tonight.

:beer: :)

MrFreeman
06-09-2004, 04:12 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/3288/3288_1086793953_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/3288/3288_1086793953_large.jpg)

I managed to spend some time working on detailed areas. This first image shows additions to far right of composition including reworking of the window frame and metal surface of the nanokit.

These are not finished, but just to show developments and convince myself that it will be completed in time...

MrFreeman
06-09-2004, 04:15 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/3288/3288_1086794112_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/3288/3288_1086794112_large.jpg)

This shows the inside of the fish which I'm currently attempting to finish.

I've put in the tail area at last and am in the process of completing skin and muscle tissue.

More developments soon I hope...

0-2
06-09-2004, 07:04 PM
The hand came out real nice, good luck, I realy wan't to see the final. If I can't sleep, then neither can you, he he:D

MrFreeman
06-10-2004, 05:26 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/3288/3288_1086884769_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/3288/3288_1086884769_large.jpg)

I'm slowly getting there. I've managed to find time to work on some of the remaining details for the fish....

More to post soon...

MrFreeman
06-10-2004, 05:29 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/3288/3288_1086884963_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/3288/3288_1086884963_large.jpg)

Here's the latest version of my image...

It's a bit too busy so I need to work on colour, light and shadows to add more depth.

Any advice or comments are much appreciated as I've been looking at this for far too long....

londero
06-10-2004, 05:45 PM
MY GOD:bowdown:

The details in colors are SUPERB. I'm very impressed, really.

the total aspect of your picture is very balanced, combinating colors and a atmosphere with action and reflections... the expression of boy is very interesting, with curious and movement too...

The color scheme combinating hot and cold colors are amazing. And the machine - flash combinates really well in th fish!

keep up my friend, this job is, out of question, one of the more impressives in the contest! Congratulations!! :applause:

Force!:thumbsup:



my entry (http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=141195)

spacesnail
06-10-2004, 11:14 PM
:buttrock:
Totally insane
Absolutely impressive.
Hope my children will be so inventive with their pets and toys:eek:

Maybe you could sharpen the knife. After it is precision surgery.

MrFreeman
06-10-2004, 11:31 PM
:blush: Your comments are more than generous....Londero and Spacesnail

I've really enjoyed taking part in this challenge and it's the first time I've managed to really get to grips with Painter (which I've only just discovered after using photoshop for years) - best package I've come across by a long way.

Anyway, enough waffle...better get on and try and finish the picture as time is running out... and make sure the children aren't disecting anything and still in bed asleep

good luck with your entries...:beer: :beer:

newone
06-11-2004, 09:34 AM
I don't know why i haven't seen this entry before. Child and pet. Good work!

galaxian
06-11-2004, 02:24 PM
With the work on the metal surfaces and the cast shadows it makes it feel like a real space. It draws you in with cone effect you’ve created with the interesting use of perspective.

One question.
Are you going tho change the intensity of the light coming through the window to match the light reflecting off the boy's face or vice versa?

I guess we shall see soon enough.
:cool:

MrFreeman
06-11-2004, 03:04 PM
Thanks for your comments Galaxian....

I'm struggling with the light a bit at the moment. Originally the light from the window was much brighter, but being warm in colour meant that all sense of depth was lost.

I'm hoping that once I've completed all detailed work (nearly there), I can concentrate on improving the light, shadows and mood. Maybe add shafts of light coming through the window...mmmm...only time will tell

:) :beer:

Luter
06-11-2004, 06:06 PM
That's a lot of work...and great work.

Bravo.

jeffrey

:)

TeemuR
06-11-2004, 08:53 PM
Looks very interesting! Nice balance between warm and cool colors. I like the mood also. No crits. I can hear detail fanatics drooling... :drool:

Alice
06-11-2004, 09:40 PM
What a tremendous ammount of conceptwork and details, love it!

MrFreeman
06-12-2004, 08:57 AM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/3288/3288_1087027067_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/3288/3288_1087027067_large.jpg)

I had a bit of a hectic day at work yesterday, so didn't get much further...

This is a close up of the knife / machine that is used on the fish....

I know this is a nanobot concept, but since you would never see them at this scale, some artistic license is needed....The ongoing story being that this nanokit is the future equivalent of the chemistry set you got when you were a kid. The contraption that fits to the hand sends out magnetic pulses that control the nanobots and how they alter the fishes structure.

MrFreeman
06-12-2004, 09:04 AM
:wavey: Thanks Goli, TeemuR and Alice for your comments

I never planned on putting in so much detail and hope it's not too busy. When there are no client or budget limitations and a deadline of more than two days, you really get carried away...especially when you see the quality of the work in the challenge...

I hope to have final colouring and details finished by the end of the weekend...more to post soon

:) :beer: :beer:

kraschtm
06-12-2004, 12:03 PM
i love those strong pers made by the pov you chosen...

MrFreeman
06-13-2004, 12:18 PM
Thanks Kraschtm....

i'm a real fan of weird pesrpectives - trying to look at a scenario from an unusual POV.

It took a long time to get from the original composition to the final one as I knew all the elements that I wanted to include, but couldn't quite visualise it in my poor brain.

There are a couple of lines in the perspective around the window that I'm not 100% happy with, but I'm too much of a perfectionist with not enough time, so I'll see what happens.

hope to post more soon, but the suns out so i'm off in the campervan for a day out...tooooo many days locked in a dark room are not good....:beer: :)

Zenlines
06-14-2004, 12:24 PM
yohohoho! :drool:
Great concept, composition, coloring and everything...good job!
Just that the kid looks a bit weird - the clear definition of the eyes, mouth ..etc. does not go along with the blurriness of the face contour. You could sharpen it a little, no too much. and it would look more misterious if you would push back a little the kid's face, by darkening it. Four thumbs up!:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

MrFreeman
06-14-2004, 12:59 PM
:wavey: Thanks for your thoughts and advice LaurentiuBontea

I'm going to try and sort the kid out tonight if possible. As this was the hardest part to get looking good, I've left pretty much alone and as I've added detail, the style of the image has changed. Origionally I wanted a softer more painterly quality, hence the soft edges.

I'm in two minds about darkening the kid's face as I like the contrast, but if I don't, I need to strengthen the light source.....mmmmm...what to do...


Soooo much to do any soooo little time
:cry: :beer:

MrFreeman
06-15-2004, 05:40 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/3288/3288_1087317654_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/3288/3288_1087317654_large.jpg)

Well work is manic at the moment, so I hoped to have more details added by now but have not finished....yet.

As such, this will be the final WIP before I post the Completed Image. I hope it's not too dark as all previous post have been a bit faded (so I've toyed with colours in Photoshop).

I've added some lighting rays and tried to enhance shadows.....

Let me know what you think as I still have 3 days to change elements

Snotblow
06-15-2004, 05:44 PM
Really nice detail....I've really enjoyed seeing you work...:bounce:

ardenrey
06-15-2004, 06:02 PM
I like it :beer:

Good luck!:)

E.T
06-15-2004, 06:06 PM
Oh my. looking terrific! :thumbsup:

Good luck to ya!

feeesh
06-15-2004, 06:53 PM
Hey this really turned out nice man! That fish is really cool. My only suggestion is to touch up the boy's face a bit in the background as it looks a little rough compared to the rest. Maybe just some smoothing or blending. But you may already be planning to do that, :-) Good luck in the voting!

-feeesh

Falcorr
06-15-2004, 07:13 PM
You have detailed this work a lot! :thumbsup:
Looks impressive! Background detail is so much more defined.
Knife thingy cutting up the fish looks cool.

Also thanks for hanging around in my thread!

Heres my final advice for you id like to see the fish belly area a little more light up. What if there would be gradial lightening up of the pic starting from dark upside of the picture.. Only really light up place would be kid's face. That way people would look more at the fish and the kid.

Or you can do like i did with my entry and just let viewer decide.
hehehe dont mind me! Im just visiting! :applause: :bounce:

You will make the best choice for your entry for sure!
End is near

Squibbit
06-15-2004, 07:21 PM
Yep , great work MrFreeman !

"End is near" .. u guys are beginning to scare me chanting that ...

:)

duddlebug
06-15-2004, 07:39 PM
This is great... i love the lighting and the detail...

I'm glad you took the time to get this composition... no matter how much it hurt your 'poor brain'. It is an unusaul (and difficult) perspective.... nice goin'.

Good luck getting everything finished...

MrFreeman
06-15-2004, 10:03 PM
:wavey: Thanks for all your feedback......snotblow, arden_rey, E.T and duddleboy:beer:

feesh - yeah the boy's face needs a bit more work. This was probably the hardest bit to get right, so I'm half afraid to touch it, but I'll give it a go...

falcor...I think you are right about the lighting...the fish is the focus of the picture, so i'll try and sort that now

Well it's gone 10pm over here in the UK and I've ony just turned my mac on, so looks like another long night finishing this...

good luck everyone...oh and Squbbit...the end is near...:beer: :beer: :thumbsup:

Zenlines
06-16-2004, 12:59 PM
It turned out really really super cool. I love the contrast and the last touches. Astonishing mood. The lighting is aaaaaa!

Good luck!
BTW, pass by.

Laurentiu:wip: :wip:

Irratio
06-16-2004, 01:48 PM
I'd print it on a carton, entitled "Biology building set for the little scientist" by Dr. Gryphus.

MrFreeman
06-16-2004, 07:18 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/3288/3288_1087409890_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/3288/3288_1087409890_large.jpg)

Well this is it...well as far as I have time to finish this anyway...my copy of Painter is having scripting errors, so there are a couple of details that I would have liked to finish...but that's life...

I've reworked the boy's face and added a few finishing touches to the fish.

Wish I could have done more but real work has finally got in the way.

Thanks to everyone for all their comments and advice and good luck to all in the voting....roll on the next challenge!!!

Russo
06-16-2004, 07:24 PM
donīt give up, friend, itīs almost there!! good luck! :beer:

cheers

NathanielWest
06-16-2004, 07:26 PM
Looks beautiful!!! You should be proud of this piece. Very nice work.:beer:

newone
06-16-2004, 09:42 PM
Good and impressive work! Good luck

MrFreeman
06-17-2004, 08:53 AM
:beer: :wavey: Thanks for your comments guys....makes the struggle to get this to this stage worthwhile...

I really wanted to do more, but I have a big deadline at work (unfortunately television channel branding rather than concept work - unfortunately there's not a lot of that over here in the UK) and all must be completed by tomorrow....

i must also warn you all that uploading your zip filed image onto the CG networks ftp site takes some time, even with a broadband connection, so don't leave it too late!!!

Good luck everyone:beer: :beer: :thumbsup:

Corlinator
06-17-2004, 10:46 PM
looking great i love the use of colour and a very nice view you choose, good call.
awsome man :thumbsup:

wallyjunior
06-18-2004, 12:38 AM
:bowdown: Man! Your work is really killer!!! Awesome! Also, I'd want thanks your commentaries about my art. Thank you!!

BlackLight
06-18-2004, 12:53 AM
Great work MrFreeman. I like the dynamic angle and detail you've packed into it. Good luck with the voting.

MrFreeman
06-18-2004, 02:06 PM
:) Thanks for all your extra comments corlinator, walter junior and blacklight....i have to say i feel a bit lost now that my image is finished (as much as possible in the time), but it's been a good way of getting to grips with Painter ...

...I'll try and look at all the entries as I'm sure there are great works out there that I've somehow missed.

I know I've said this before, but good luck everyone with completing your entries:beer: :beer:

paulwdavidson
06-18-2004, 03:16 PM
Well done..............a very complicated piece to tackle.....one of the more ambitious pieces in the competition.

Congratulations

Paul

http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=133522&perpage=15&pagenumber=11

MrFreeman
06-19-2004, 07:38 AM
:beer: :) Thanks Paul...it's all the feedback and support that has made this such a great challenge....

...roll on the next one....good luck everyone:beer: :wavey:

eska
06-19-2004, 09:50 AM
WONDERFUL , one of the major players!

madape
06-20-2004, 09:31 AM
Nice perpective, good colors - very nice work

good luck :)

MrFreeman
06-20-2004, 12:34 PM
:) Thanks for your kind words eska...if only that were true...

Cheers madape....this challenge has been fun...hope there's another one soon.... :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

MrFreeman
06-22-2004, 11:22 AM
:eek: This is a bit big, but here are some details from my entry which probably would be missed in entries posted so far....

Wow, there's some amazing enties out there :drool: :applause: :bounce:
http://www.pixelsandpotions.com/images/mfcloseup.jpg

MrFreeman
06-23-2004, 08:38 AM
:eek: I found some of my original sketches for this challenge which I forgot to post....not too important, but they do show sketches of the boy and hands, etc...

Will try to post later just for reference in case anyone might be interested...mmm :thumbsup:

MrFreeman
06-23-2004, 11:14 PM
:cry: Sorry my scanners not working so I'll have to post those sketches later.... :banghead:

Newke
06-24-2004, 08:18 AM
Nice close-ups, Mr Freeman. You have done a great job in the details! :thumbsup:

Good luck !! :buttrock:

MrFreeman
06-24-2004, 10:32 AM
:thumbsup: Thanks Newke

....got a bit carried away on the details, but entering this challenge has really helped me get to grips with Painter 8, so well worth it.

Feedback has been really great and as fairly new to this type of thing, advice and crits are always welcome :) :thumbsup:

MrFreeman
06-24-2004, 10:37 AM
:thumbsup: Good luck everyone in the voting...does anyone know how this process works..i.e...do you vote for your three favourite images, or rate every piece of work????

Hope you all got your works uploaded onto FTP and for the final time, Good Luck!!! :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

ufotung
06-24-2004, 12:15 PM
nice sketch and using of POV ~
awesome image !

blacknoise
06-24-2004, 01:49 PM
i hate the colors you use :p , but the idea is very interesting! like it a lot.

would love to see that stuff made in 3d.

only one crit. the lamp on the left should be much bigger. maybe the composition would be better than... IMHO

that's all i wanted to say...
over&out

MrFreeman
06-24-2004, 11:55 PM
:) Thanks ufotung - much appreciated

:sad: Sorry you don't like the colours blacknoise...any suggestions about what I could have done to make them work better in your opinion??? I thought the blues and oranges worked well against each other, but maybe that's because I've sat in a dark room, painting / drawing on my own for far too long without contact from other creatives....mmmmm

Coming from a broadcast design and vis effects background, i spend most of my time creating mood boards and storyboards, so the move into full on conceptual art is fairly new to me, though becoming more requested by the day.

As such, all comments really help me to develop my skills so thank you for being so honest. :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :D

cabertevon
06-27-2004, 12:00 AM
Great stuff... really!!!

Good luck in the voting as well.

polymonkey
06-27-2004, 12:43 AM
great lighting and colors. a bit fuzzy around the edges, but very impressive. kinda cute in a scary sorta way. :twisted:

MrFreeman
07-02-2004, 06:13 PM
:thumbsup: :) cheers cabertevon and polymonkey....great to get feedback....sorry for not adding replies lately, but I've been down in the westcountry for a week in the old campervan....good to look at all the entries afresh...looking forward to the voting bit :) :)

Squibbit
07-02-2004, 06:32 PM
campervan , cool , had good weathers ?

MrFreeman
07-03-2004, 01:37 PM
:thumbsup: Yeah, weather wasn't too bad....(wasn't too good either) nice to get away from it all...and managed to do a bit of sketching in between...shame the van doesn't go any faster uphill (though we got there and back without breaking down once which was a first)...mmm

:hmm: :) :bounce:

Slav
07-10-2004, 03:52 PM
hi there

this would be one of my fav pieces in the challenge i admire it for the original perpective

fantastic view good work and good luck.

Shinwa
07-12-2004, 11:28 PM
Maybe I missed a post referring to the fish-eye view....that is what it's called if I remember accurately enough. I have to say I laughed at that. ALTHOUGH, it is also the perfect perspective for this piece. This has to be one of the most plausible Ideas I have seen, as people are more likely to get passed animal cruelty than human cruelty...and it just reminds me of kids SO MUCH, having to tinker with everything. GOOD WORK. You also seperated your mid, back and forgrounds well with your use of detail and light. :D

MrFreeman
07-13-2004, 11:29 AM
:thumbsup: Thanks for your comments Slav....I just hope I get enough votes to get through to the next stage (I'm ever hopeful and miracles can happen)....

Thanks also Shinwa...glad the fish eye / wide angle view made you laugh....as far as animal cruelty, well the image is a lot darker in subject matter than originally intended...but I'm not a scary person...honest..now what did I do with my pet goldfish.......(sorry I've been sat in a dark room using my mac for far too long and need to get out into the real world and am babbling nonsense) :eek: :hmm: :applause:

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