new poly-based fillet and rounding technique

[mikeh64]

wow - that looks amazing.

I am so curious to hear what the resident C4D programmers have to say. I know nothing about programming, and very little about math, so all I can say is wow.

I have always wondered if this type of rounding would be possible/feasible - as we are always lots of math (behind the interface) in 3D.

Those who understand, please chime in with your thoughts, and more information and perspective for all of us.

m

[kromekat]

Ooh - that looks handy! :)

[InTheCity]

Very interesting, but not the easiest plug-in in the world to use.

[ronhondo]

WOW also

I second all of mikeh64 's appeal for programmer's input on these meshes. Ah, it's the fillet problem that I run into a couple of time a month. The German language AND the math are like "Greek" to me also.

I DL'd the models too, and applying the MS loop tools (katana and slide) to the the cylinder gave (to me) unexpected results, which I found interesting.
I would have expected the new loop to be a circle as on the top.....

Or, perhaps it's cause I am just learning MS...

http://irondavis.com/d040403_test2.gif

Will try the COFFE plug-ins now.
/ron

[neilyb]

Well I can make sense of the German...but that math?? Nice effects though, just goes to show Cinema needs quite a few additions to fill a few gaps!

[mt_sabao]

would be terrific to see C4D´s BOOLE doing this kind of thing, no?

[LucentDreams]

Originally posted by mikeh64
wow - that looks amazing.

I am so curious to hear what the resident C4D programmers have to say. I know nothing about programming, and very little about math, so all I can say is wow.

I have always wondered if this type of rounding would be possible/feasible - as we are always lots of math (behind the interface) in 3D.

Those who understand, please chime in with your thoughts, and more information and perspective for all of us.

m

Not sure what your asking for from the programmers, I mean the guy made this into a plugin already. Of course its possible feasible, I mean hey look he already has a plugin for it.

[LucentDreams]

Originally posted by mt_sabao
would be terrific to see C4D´s BOOLE doing this kind of thing, no?

It can....

























...the thing is you have to make your geometry match up perfectly for it to work, one too many edges or an edge that doesn't line up and your screwed. The only reason this guys works like this is because he makes the curbes for the intersection abd bevel, and then makes the geometry

[mikeh64]

kai asks: "Not sure what your asking for from the programmers, I mean the guy made this into a plugin already. Of course its possible feasible, I mean hey look he already has a plugin for it."

What I am asking is what if I have something other than 2 cylinders? (as far as I can tell his plugin will only deal with 2 cylinders)

Could this person's approach be fleshed out to include any 2 shapes?

thanks

[LucentDreams]

why not simply use a projected spline instead of dealing with all the math?

[Erik Heyninck]

In fact what he says is that where two cilinders cross, a mathematical curve is created. When you know this curve, you can arrange your polys/edges so the crossing can be done perfectly.
You do not need the math as it is used to prove his point.

[sketchbook]

Originally posted by ronhondo
I DL'd the models too, and applying the MS loop tools (katana and slide) to the the cylinder gave (to me) unexpected results, which I found interesting.
I would have expected the new loop to be a circle as on the top.....

Or, perhaps it's cause I am just learning MS...

http://irondavis.com/d040403_test2.gif

Will try the COFFE plug-ins now.
/ron

this is not all that unexpected. in MS, whenever you manipulate points and polygons, the corresponding loop that MS makes will be created depending on those manipulations. for instance if you make a box, make it editable, and then make one of the top edges slanted --- the loop that MS makes when cutting this block into halves will be also somewhat slanted.

that being said - i would think it would be cleaner than that - but definitely i know it should not be a perfectly clean loop matching the top. that would not make sense. you can always select that loop and set value of all points.

[dfaris]

Ok so has anyone used the plugs? How does it work? do you have to type in values? Do you just select edges and it makes the cut? Do the plugs work if you are usiing an english C4D?

Whats the deal?

[Zimbo]

This is is a bit off topic, but I just wanted to point out that the types of operations discussed above are trivial in that other modeling application: Form*Z. My point is not to say anything bad about C4D (I love it) or this plug-in (it looks like an awesome piece of code). My point is that I have seen some negative comments both in this forum as well as other about Form*Z. I just wanted to make a positive plug for Z in a relevant thread. I agree that it might not be the easiest package to learn, and that some my find the interface quirky. But modeling these kind of sophisticated and detailed objects is where Z really shines. Rounding an irregular interface between two objects with a varying radius fillet is a single click operation. The image below took me about 10 minutes in Z (and I am far from a power user).

Just to reiterate, I'm not trying to say one application is better than the other, I used both regularly in my work flow. Nor am I saying you shouldn't check out this plug-in. I am saying that if you are regularly under the gun to model this kind of precision stuff, you should really check out Z (and animate in C4D of course).

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