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ambient-whisper
07-09-2002, 03:12 AM
Todd Mcfarlane is a great source of inspiration
been a fan of his since early 90s.

here are the two main links of catalogues of some selected works between 2001-2002

http://www.spawn.com/features/toyfair2002/toys/

http://www.spawn.com/toyfair2001/index.html

some images found within his site.

http://www.spawn.com/toyfair2000/catalog/gallery/series17/images/medievalspawn.detail6.jpghttp://www.spawn.com/features/hellspawn/images/artpreview.detail3.jpg

and heres a site for each separate collection. it goes into a bit more detail of each series than the catalogues.
there are making of as well....wallpapers..backdrops...etc.etc. there is still Lots more hidden within the archives of his site though.

http://www.spawn.com/features/series22/index.html

http://www.spawn.com/features/monsters/index.html

http://www.spawn.com/features/series21/index.html

http://www.spawn.com/features/mgs2/index.html

http://www.spawn.com/features/series20/index.html

http://www.spawn.com/features/anime2/index.html

http://www.spawn.com/features/torturedsouls/index.html

http://www.spawn.com/features/series19/index.html


overall theres over 70 megs of worthwhile material on his website...just in the toy section alone.

have fun! :)

meloncully
07-09-2002, 03:58 AM
i love spawn. It is such a cool idea.

the comics kick major bunghole

jason-slab
07-09-2002, 08:45 AM
sweeet :thumbsup: thx for the links martin

Naz
07-10-2002, 09:30 AM
great stuff =)

"hmm... now where is that 'download all button' " ;)

pascal_blanche
07-10-2002, 09:40 PM
mc farlane designs.. just loooove them ! thx for the links buddy!

nick
07-23-2002, 12:16 AM
Ohhh these toys are soo cool. I have that one with the big sword :) Todd mcfarlane toys are real good insiration. They are modelled extremly well too with there killer designs which get better and better with each series!!!!!! be sure to check out the qtvrs of the models

nez
07-23-2002, 02:37 AM
woooooooow :O

Cgkoko
07-23-2002, 09:40 AM
:wavey: ok....how about this one?

love that guy!Don't go at first sight.....look aroundmy favorite artist (http://www.ashleywood.com/praxis2/)

pascal_blanche
07-23-2002, 01:17 PM
aaahh .. Ashley Wood... love his work! just bought his last art book.. this man have style.. damn good artist!! my site is in fact inspired a lot by his older version one (hem i got authorisation of his webmaster )

gKay
07-25-2002, 11:21 AM
damn... another artist to buy books from...

reminds me a bit of some illustrations by Duncan Fegredo but in a much more evolved style... fantastic!

d3v1n
07-27-2002, 10:50 PM
thanx martin for the info , mcfarlene's character is cool , i wish i had lots of money to buy em all

AJE
07-29-2002, 09:15 AM
Best Spawn Ever...right here... (http://www.spawn.com/toys/product.asp?division=toys&category=spawn&series=series21&product=wor)

balistic
07-29-2002, 10:39 PM
Do we really need more McFarlane wannabes?

People being "inspired" by McFarlane pretty much destroyed mainstream western comics (not that there was much there to begin with), and now 3D has become just as derivative.

Just look at the bulk of the entries in any of the challenges.

Inspiration comes from life, love, experience . . . I think a lot of people confuse imitation with inspiration.

"This piece was inspired by Brom."

No it wasn't, jackass, you just ripped him off.

This isn't directed at anyone in particular, and I apologize for seeming so caustic, but I guess I'm just increasingly perturbed by the general lack of creativity I'm seeing in CG . . . that Korean artists thread is another example . . . those guys are not THAT good, but they have a previously underexposed regional style, and before you know it, people are going to be aping it left and right, patting each other on the back all the while.

Just don't jump on the bandwagon is what I'm trying to communicate :)

Nothing wrong with liking it, just don't aspire to it.

Be yourselves.

ambient-whisper
07-29-2002, 10:50 PM
mmmkay :)

balistic
07-29-2002, 10:54 PM
That's all I could ask for :)

AJE
07-30-2002, 01:05 AM
While I do agree with the last two lines of your post balistic,
I have to say that some people here actually LIKE the style.

Personally, I think McFarlane somewhat revived the comic book industry....

Like the style or not, he's very talented. He has worked to be where he's at. And the group of artists working with him are just as talented.

I own some pieces of the collectable line. I bought them because I like the designs and detail.

Although I strive to be original in my own work, I have been 'inspired' by other people's work. The final product that I make is not a rip-off, homage, or imitation.... it's what I see in my head.

Maybe it's different for others, but I kind of resent being called a rip-off artist.

If someone does a piece in the style of 'Brom', it doesn't neccessarily mean it is a rip-off... If someone looked at a blue painting, then decided to use blue in their next work, does that mean they're 'on the blue bandwagon'? No, they just like blue.

You have to remember that people experiment in different styles too... that's how you grow as an artist...

I encourage people to explore their favorite artists styles whether Brom, Vallejo, or Charles Schultz.....

Just don't call it your own style... that is disrespectful to the artists you admire.

Plus, it's a little tough to take your post seriously when you've got Quake fan art on your site...

JMHO

balistic
07-30-2002, 02:28 AM
Originally posted by AJE
Maybe it's different for others, but I kind of resent being called a rip-off artist.

....

Plus, it's a little tough to take your post seriously when you've got Quake fan art on your site...


I didn't call anyone specifically a rip-off artist (did you do a Brom-influenced piece?), and citing my Quake fan art is not exactly relavent as the piece references no specific artist. I even took a lot of liberties in changing the character's design to what I thought it should've looked like.

And do you see any other images like that in my gallery? Am I basing a majority of my work on an already-designed universe? Am I copying anyone's style?

You'll see quite a lot of fully original art in my gallery . . . in fact, I've only ever done those two pieces of fan art (Alita and Orbb), and I refer to them as such on my site (with links to their respective copyright holders). I won't even include them on my splash page montage because they aren't my characters.

Both Battle Angel and Quake have played substantial roles in my life . . . I played Q3A for two hours a day for two years, and I've read all nine Alita books several times through. Its not like I picked a random drawing I liked and decided to copy characters from it, like so many digital artists do.

Those two characters were alive to me and I wanted to render them in a style that I felt suited them.

If somebody feels a strong connection to Spawn, they're more than justified in re-interpreting that character. But just apeing someone's style . . . its fecking tacky.

"Personally, I think McFarlane somewhat revived the comic book industry...."

He revived the independent black and white publishers by flooding the market with his collect-all-four-foil-embossed-holographic-covers drivel, I'll give him that.

:p

AJE
07-30-2002, 05:13 AM
I see... so fan art isn't copying, it's original???

I've only ever done those two pieces of fan art

So how many pieces of fan art does it take before you become a copy artist?

my Quake fan art is not exactly relavent as the piece references no specific artist. I even took a lot of liberties in changing the character's design to what I thought it should've looked like

So you modified the designs and it doesn't reference a specific artist... ? That's your justification?.... your defense? It's still a design based on the collective works of the game design team...

Sorry dude, it seems as though you're somewhat conflicted.

He revived the independent black and white publishers by flooding the market with his collect-all-four-foil-embossed-holographic-covers drivel, I'll give him that.

You do know Spawn wasn't the first comic he worked on, right? He paid his dues in the industry... then left to start his own publishing house because of creative conflicts...

It just seems you're passing moral judgement on people who want to explore popular styles... that's my problem with your post. But I can respect your opinion. And for the record, I am VERY much against plageurism... I think we can agree on that one.

Don't get me wrong, I do like the stuff I've seen on your site... I think it's a great style...

AJE

PS... and no I haven't done any Brom styled pieces

balistic
07-30-2002, 05:55 AM
"So how many pieces of fan art does it take before you become a copy artist?"

I suppose I should've been clearer about this in my initial post . . . I look at it like this:

There's historically been a lot of "fan art" depicting Jesus.

He's an established character who many artists have wanted to represent in their own way.

Michelangelo's Jesus is not at all like El Greco's Jesus.

A good character is something that exists outside of style . . . its independant of the artist and can move from one media to the next.

The kind of copying I'm talking about occurs when someone is more interested in the look than the content . . . and in my book, that's not inspiration.

When a struggling artists goes "man, if only I could draw like so-and-so" . . . it just strikes me as extremely shortsighted to aspire to mimic another artist.

Does that make more sense?

"You do know Spawn wasn't the first comic he worked on, right? He paid his dues in the industry... then left to start his own publishing house because of creative conflicts..."

I have quite a few issues of Spiderman penciled by Todd. I know all about the problems of the majors shredding artwork, et cetera . . . I'm quite glad that he left Marvel . . . his departure was pretty much the nail in that coffin. What bugs me is the direction he took comics on his own . . . not with the books themselves, but with how comics were marketed and produced.

It was largely his imitators, the bandwagon-jumpers, that turned comics into a joke again . . . and that's the crux of my whole argument here . . . one guy finds something that works, and then a horde of inferior idiots plays it until its bloodied and limp.

The Matrix was a cool movie when it came out, but I'm pretty sure we're all sick of "bullet time" by now.

Its the people who jump on the bandwagon that ruin a good thing, when they ought to focus on finding their own good thing.

AJE
07-30-2002, 06:17 AM
I understand.

Appropriating someone's 'style' and billing it as your own is wrong.

'nuff said.

AJE

Cgkoko
07-31-2002, 09:43 AM
....Things are really simple:Look and study as much art as you can!Art from all regions and all times.Fine arts or aplied arts.Comics and animation or Classic masterpieces.Get as much input as you can by studying history of art and following today's art by magazines or the net!It doesn't mater if it's good art or trashy!By looking at trashy art also, you will be able to know what is good or not.And you will be able to know who is another artist's copy......and there are lots of them!:shame:

I said i love Ashley wood but i will never try to copy him...I have a friend that tries to do that and the resault is hilarius at the least!Copying is not art!



and sorry for my english.....:D

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