Machineflesh 3D Challenge Entry: howard porter

[BaronVonWink]

http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/5/2998/2998_1080531158_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/5/2998/2998_1080531158_large.jpg)

early thoughts.

[CGTrader]

Great concept sketch! I like the style :)

[Jhonus]

Kudos, I really dig the concept on the left hand side.

[harnelbe]

Very Interesting concept !:thumbsup:
19's style less used by challengers
and you have successfull used.
Very nice treatments of the picture
and clean colors sketches.
I keep an eye oon it :)

[Pleribus]

You and I have a very similar ideas in terms of the setting at least... not too many people have gone for the steampunk style, basing their character in the past.

My idea is more of a clockwork style rather than steam powered.

You're able to portray the style I'm after a lot better though ;)

You can see my WIP via link below...

Will be keeping an eye on this one, looking forward to see what you come up with.

[Yann1ck]

Very original!
Good luck

[Ravendsg]

Very nice sketches :D Has got a nice "Wild Wild West" (...should be this movie rite?) feel to it man!! Waiting for ur model :D

[Geoffrey Smith]

Great style. I really like this "retro" concept too. Very original.

My Machine Flesh 3D sketcheshttp://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?postid=1231700#post1231700

[AgentPrometheus]

It's very unique, as opposed to the countless pictures of buff guys with electronics hanging out of them. An interesting take on cyborgs. Keep up the good work!

[KurtBoutilier]

Sweet concept bud.. looking forward to seeing it develope=)

Kurt

[BaronVonWink]

http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/5/2998/2998_1080624302_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/5/2998/2998_1080624302_large.jpg)

Wow! thanks guys! There are so many posts in this forum that its hard to keep track of everything - and there is so much great stuff being done.

here is the concept a bit more worked out. C+C is welcomed (and wanted :)) I want to push the concept sketch as far as I can so I dont have to figure it out when I am modeling. that will be a first for me :)

[harnelbe]

:bounce: :thumbsup:
I love the render of the last concept
Between blue print render and comics.
:thumbsup:

[tungaunga]

yes.... if the final 3d is going to be like the scketch... or better... I pretty sure that this is goping to be one of my favorites (already is). what I like the most is that this is one of the few diferent ideas in this challenge.

[Grorum]

Really really really interesting, like a lot the retro-style, biological industrial between XVIII and XIX century...
I think you can work more on the Cane (stick he s handling with his right hand) 'cause it looks too medieval-fantastic.

[biBIGorno]

I like your concept. The character is pretty smart!:applause:

[ufotung]

Well concept sketch , like this style very much .
:applause:

[lennygordon40]

Truely awsome. This is bar far the concept drawing with the most potential I have seen yet. Very original, very cool.:buttrock:

[Throbberwocky]

I LOOOOOOOOVE it!!! And I totally agree with lennygordon. It's so terrifying original!

I wanna see more!

[BaronVonWink]

http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/5/2998/2998_1080703474_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/5/2998/2998_1080703474_large.jpg)

I started to paint the concept to get a better feel for where I want to go with the textures... about an hour and a half into it, I realized I might as well just start modeling! I wasnt going to benefit by investing any more time on the concept sketch. so here is as far as I got and probably the final sketch.

however, Grorum had a good idea about his cane. I think I will sketch up something different for that. Thanks Grorum! And thanks everyone gor the kind words about the sketch!! There is so much inspiration to be found here.

[KurtBoutilier]

Looking sweet as usual bro... Looking forward to the modeling...

Kurt

[BaronVonWink]

Kurt, your frog is kicking butt !!

[Virtuoso]

Well first of all I love the name baronVonWink............:beer:

As for the concept,that too is stellar work.Beautiful style,very well executed.Right near my alley of Steampunk loving.....I will watch you progress with both eyes...........:cool: :beer:

[parkerault]

Bravo! This is by far the most elegant and creative entry I have seen so far! Of course, I'm a sucker for victorian sci-fi, so I could be a tad biased. Anyway, this is far more interesting than the multitudes of anime characters with robot arms. Kudos!

Parker

[Powell]

nice work!....looks kinda familliar to my fist concept. :)

[smoochbelly]

so jealous. what a great drawing. i love how clean your style is.

the machine is very nice. i can hear how it would sound puttering along the cobblestones.

i especially like contrast between the bulk of the engine and brain housings and the skinny, spindley wheels.

have you considered driving the wheels like train wheels? http://www.flying-pig.co.uk/mechanisms/pages/piston.html

but maybe changing the wheels would bulk them up and kill the contrast thing I like so much. hmm.

the way the cane is positioned, it could also appear to be a lever or gear shift.

thanks for the inspiration. i want to make something cool after seeing your work.

[Pleribus]

Smoochbelly: What a fantastic resource. This is going to come in very handy for my own piece when it comes time to add my gears and gadgets.

Nice one!

BaronVonWink: wishing I had your drawing skills to be able to convey my ideas like you are able. You should consider entering the 2D comp as well with those skills.

[Kirt]

Very nice concept and one of the more original ideas that I've seen in this challenge. I really love the modern-historical style. The character just drips with charisma. :thumbsup:

[Antropus]

Great concept and great idea! I hope you can put all your talent on the 3D version.

Good luck!

Kris

[harnelbe]

BaronVonWink
:applause:
Whaooowww
your 2D skills let us imagine your 3D
it's going to be an impressive CG !!!

smoochbelly
Thanks for the link about mechanic !!!
Amazing ressources !

[Locusta]

Amazing concept!! I love your design. Can´t wait to see the 3D.

[tolin]

man you could kick butt in the 2D challenge. I absolutly love it.

[RekAge]

Excellent! Nice to see someone else with an oldfashion design. I think most people are going for the futuristic look in the contest. I'm really loving your concept work, there's a lot of style captured in it. You bring across the era quite well, more than mine does. Good luck, and can't wait to see more!

[Cartesius]

Excellent! This is such a great idea, and with the 1880's setting it's a very refreshing one as well. If you can pull of the modeling only half as good as you handle 2D we are all in for a treat. :thumbsup:

/Anders

[BaronVonWink]

First off- thanks guys, you all are very kind and supportive!

Virtuoso- Steam Punk rules! Have you checked out the movie "city of lost children?" there is alot of neat stuff in there.

Powell - I like your concept too! ... and I do see the similarities in your first sketch. The guy attached to a wheeled thing right? Very cool! I swear I didnt see it before I did mine. :surprised:

smoochbelly - I love the idea of the cane being the way to control the transport-thing!!! thanks! I also like the idea of a train-like wheel rig. hmmmm.... I think I will try that too :thumbsup:

Cartesius - Sadly I am not as accomplished at modeling as I am at drawing. I have been drawing my entire life but only been 3D-ing for a year :blush: but I will be pushing myself with this one!

How do you all keep up with these posts?!? there are so many off them I cant keep track. and so much good stuff being done!

I started to work on the modeling and I will post something in a few hours (i hope!)

later!

[BaronVonWink]

http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/5/2998/2998_1080871940_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/5/2998/2998_1080871940_large.jpg)

Here are my first efforts in the modeling phase. no textures or lights yet.

[Pleribus]

Off to a flying start, and you have translated your sketch into 3D perfectly.

My only comment would be that the axel doesn't look like it would support the weight of both the maching and the man.

But then again, the look of the wheels and axles in your sketch give it a sort of rickety feeling, which suits the style very well...

Looking forward to seeing more..

PS, are the green things in teh tubes brains?

[BaronVonWink]

Pleribus- I see what you mean about the axle... hmmm. and yep, those will be brains eventually:)

[KurtBoutilier]

Go howard... great start.... going to be one of your best works mate.


Kurt

[Redf]

Nice,nice,job.Style to the max.love the sketch,looks like the 3D is coming along too.:thumbsup: :buttrock:

[Virtuoso]

The modeling is following the stylish beautiful sketch very well BaronVonWink............This is a very nice thread to follow,close to my heart style wise in many ways I believe...........I created a character a way back named "Count Elegaaaance"........He reminds of BaronVonWink............and your creation in your sketch.Perhaps they are long lost brothers.;)

Anyways I like your first look into modeling,and look forward to a very nice finished creation here...........:thumbsup: :beer:

[Cartesius]

That modeling looks good enough to me (I don't think I could model as good as that after my first year with 3D!). :thumbsup:

/Anders

[BaronVonWink]

http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/5/2998/2998_1081133672_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/5/2998/2998_1081133672_large.jpg)

Cartesius- thanks man, I have been working at it pretty much every night for the past year. I have huge bags under my eyes in the morning, because I am so addicted to modeling. I checked out your website. Really awesome work, top notch stuff... someday I will get there!( I hope!)

Virtuoso- thanx! your entry is breath taking, I saved those images to my HD for future inspiration. :D

Redf and Kurt- thanx! :D

here is an update, I thickened the axle as per Pleribus's suggestion and added more of the mechanical stuff. I am planning on finishing the transportation device before moving on to the fun stuff :D

heres a screen grab-->

[hippybro]

When you model in your 3D application, do you do you use reference images? If so, can you post screen shots of how you go about modeling?

[mosconariz]

:bounce: I love your concept!!! It's great! and the model is beautiful! :thumbsup:

[Pleribus]

i'm so jealous of your brass...heh.

Looking great. You have really captured the look of 19th century technology

[Atwooki]

BaronVonWink:

Great concept and originality! I love the 'victoriana' here....I think it would be nice to see the smoking prof/main man blocked in (eye-bags allowing, of course!)
The valved brains really make it for me (in the details) and don't know if showing some 'hot-air' rising' (steam) is counted as modelling - should be :) it would help put some dynamic atmosphere into the image in many ways....
Love it!, great stuff!

[tolin]

man you have the best, most original idea in this whole challenge.
I was just thinking though that when i heard that the smaller axel looked to small I agreed, but now that i see the larger one, I think the smaller one is better. Before the transport "glided" now it just rolls. The smaller axel gives it an avian feel, light yet strong, maybe just shorten the lenght of the axel.

[Solomon]

Hi there

Great concept!!

reminds me of the bad guy in Wild Wild West - a western movie by Will Smith.

It had a guy bound to a wheel chair contraption similar to yours


Your concept is better though.

[bigkrull]

Hi Baron,

Very nice concept and design !! :thumbsup:


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my machineflesh:

http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?threadid=132720

[BaronVonWink]

http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/5/2998/2998_1081214151_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/5/2998/2998_1081214151_large.jpg)

here is an exploded lo-res wire frame for hippybro - also, I dont use image planes but I do refer back to the sketch alot! :D I hope that helps.
I will try the smaller/shorter axle and start on the character tomorrow, I joined the 2d comp and am starting on that tonight. I hope to add the steam at the end using particles (if I can figure them out!) Thanx everyone for your comments -

[Antropus]

Can't wait to see the human parts! Nice machine and great concept :beer:

Cya

[KurtBoutilier]

Starting to really come together H.....

Kurt

[Kenter]

super cool skecth.Modeling is looking to come up as the sketchs eqaul too.nice style and feel.:thumbsup:

[mosconariz]

Wow, wow, wow!!

[slinki]

great concept. reminds me of Time Machine and the character Solomon refered to. :thumbsup: :thumbsup: here's to you Baron :beer:

[Virtuoso]

You already know the style is my thing Mr.BaronVonWink.............jules Verne would create this if he only had CG art back in the day......................Yes it is of a style from Dr.Loveless from Wild wild west...................But done with an all new view,a fresh new angle...........A BaronVon Wink..........angle.

:buttrock:

Modeling coming along very well.It appears that the concept/idea will get a wonderful re-creation in 3D.......very,very nice efforts thus far baronVonWink..........Love that name,and your work. :)


:beer:

[Cartesius]

This just gets better and better. :thumbsup:

/Anders

[EmpY]

Marvelous concept!
You're going great.
Waiting for more...
:thumbsup:

[irahus]

An authentic looks of da 19th century technology. I can feel it.
Waiting for updates… :bounce: :bounce:

[marioucci]

ultra slick concept Baron,

Ur transition to 3d is perfect so far.

trully inspired work that ill keep both eyes over it:)

cheerios

Loggie

PS. dont change a bit of the gentleman's pose. uve nailed it there:)

[dunkel]

wow..........I love this sketch...

and the modelling is nice so far..

I also am a "steam powered challenger" maybe you can take a look of my thread to give me your opinion.........thanks.

and congratulations again!!!:applause:

[BaronVonWink]

http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/5/2998/2998_1081308301_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/5/2998/2998_1081308301_large.jpg)

The beginning of the character has begun and here is what I have after about three hours and one computer crash :-O

Antropus- holy smokes! you are the plumber guy... I have been checking out your site for quite some time now. you have created some unbelievable work that I have been drooling over...
Kurt B- thanx- yours is looking sweet too
Kenter- :D thanx!!
mosconariz-your entry is coming along very nicely too!
slinki- thanks - the HG welss time machine? I loved the original movie but haven't seen the latest one yet. I love that clunky technology allot.
Virtuoso- thanks bro, I am very jealous of the fact that you are in Malibu and an awesome 3der as well! I am out by New York and freezing my butt off :D
Cartesius- I checked out your site... Damn man you are a cinema 4d master!!
EmpY&irahus&loganarts&dunkel- :D thanx guys I am checking out your entries right now...

[Cartesius]

That is some seriously good modeling! I always find it hard to do clothes since they in some zen-like way have a life of their own, with all wrinkles and folds and so on. You did a very good job here, and it's very true to your concept as well! :thumbsup:

/Anders

[irahus]

Agree with u, Cartesius.
You are damn good modeler, BaronVonWink!! :thumbsup:
Bravo! Waiting for da FUN!! part, texturing!! :bounce:

[Abigor]

i love this concept. the use of the old stylistic elements from the 1800's is great. my only concern with this is piece is the level of intergration the guy has with his vehicle... or his machineflesh-iness if u will. i think he could use a bit more mechanical enhancing. but on the whole ur off to a great start. fantastic modelling.

[BaronVonWink]

Abigor- I think you have a good point:hmm: in retrospect he isnt showing enough machineflesh-iness. I think I have to rethink the concept a bit:blush: adding some more to the mechanics-to-skin ratio..

perhaps his lower body could blend into the main machine more?

[Abigor]

perhaps. id hafta put some thought into it myself. the 1st ridiculous thing that jumps to mind is somehow have the machine wearing pants... like the pants start on his waist and somehow finish on the machine... u no wat im sayin? just a stupid thought :)

[Virtuoso]

The modeling is flowing in 3D now as well as it's 2D sister.............Nice flow to the wrinkles,and nice overall modeling BaronVonWink.................Stylish and original.With lot's of character..................:thumbsup: :beer:

[harnelbe]

:thumbsup:
Excellents updates !
I like a lot the explosed view !
you are on the good way !

[majofo]

man! your thing looks soooo sweet!
I am gonna keep an eye on your progress cause i have to say i am interested to see how the final product will look
looks sweet !
~Majofo

[soapy]

Wow nice stuff, a lot of work into this thing already, it is nice to see such a stylistically coherent project, start to finish. Good luck.

[Tremoside]

This is my first visit on your page...it's going to be a habit.
EXCELLENT:bounce: :bounce:

[irahus]

Did u rethink the concept, yet?
Coz I’m eager for more updates... :bounce:

[mosconariz]

Updates! Updates!Updates!Updates!

[Cartesius]

And may I add: updates! Seriously, I would love to this this project continue.

/Anders

[BaronVonWink]

My real job has been getting in the way :( but tonight I think I can work on this. (I hope) Thanks for the interest and I will try and post soon!

[Cartesius]

Yeah, those real jobs can be a real pain. :) Take your time and update when you can!

/Anders

[flyingP]

Damn sometimes I wish I had a "real" job :cry:

Also looking forward to updates both 3 and 2D :D

[Cygnus-X]

Very interesting machine:buttrock: clean and nice modeling :beer:

[BaronVonWink]

http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/5/2998/2998_1082170044_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/5/2998/2998_1082170044_large.jpg)

Here is an update on the concept - it is an attempt at emphasizing the integration of machine with the flesh. I wanted to stay away from making it look horrific, but sadly, any attempt at showing the flesh-machine transition looks pretty gruesome to me. Also I am contemplating removing his lower body and replacing it with more machinery. Any thoughts on these issues would be most appreciated!

[BaronVonWink]

http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/5/2998/2998_1082170258_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/5/2998/2998_1082170258_large.jpg)

the start of the modeling of the hand/arm. still much detail to be added, but you need to start somewhere right? :)

[BaronVonWink]

Flyingp- real jobs can be a good thing and I know that they have them in Hamburg, I have been there (I think its a beautiful city!) but if you dont have to get one... dont! :)

Cartesius- thanks for the encouragement, sometimes its too easy to get overwhelmed with this 3d stuff.

Cygnus_X- Thanx!:D

[ajitmenon]

damn... I like it. The model's taking good shape... and I like the detail too. Good going!

[Ravendsg]

Nice detailed stuffs man, I think in order to make it not so scary, the joints between flesh and machine must be kept cleaner, and have cleaner cuts? The right hand is looking great man Would not be too scary i hope hehe :beer:

[mosconariz]

Yeah, I'm with Ravendsg... Well, it's difficult to achieve the level of elegance that you put in the first two sketches and the "car"... But it's important that you show the places in which flesh and machine meets without loosing style... It should be a clean design en every aspect (IMHLO). Curves, spirals, and a little of continuity in line's paths. You're creating one of the best jobs in here, so :beer:

[ilasolomon]

Very impressive, nice style, excelent skill and poweful touch and feeling! simply one of the best is coming along! :-D
You are so good in 2D and 3D, both mentaly and practicaly.

[KurtBoutilier]

Looking great H..... wanting to see more=)

[Cartesius]

That is looking great! I agree with those above, keep the transitions between man and metal very clean and proper. Maybe even hide the shoulder joint behind the shirt fabric? After all , he is a gentleman and a gentleman wouldn't expose that much naked skin anyway. ;)

/Anders

[BaronVonWink]

http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/5/2998/2998_1082345525_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/5/2998/2998_1082345525_large.jpg)

the start of the head... beginning to rough in the shapes.

[BaronVonWink]

Thanx for the input guys! You nailed it on the head - I must keep the transition from flesh to machine clean and designy :D otherwse it begins to look disturbing- which doesn't fit this guys character. I hadn't thought of that at all!

thanks!

[ParadiseFlyBird]

Hi BaronVonWink.... just drop in to say hi man... you're entrys coming along really well... and the start of the head is sweet man.
keep it up .... cheers pfb

[Pleribus]

yes, more metal over skin as opposed to skin stretched over metal, if that makes any sense. easier to create clean lines with the metal on top, but you also run the risk of it looking like armor instead of integration of flesh and machine. I'm sure you'll come up with a solution.

The head by the way is top notch. You have really managed to stick to your sketch with incredible accuracy. Keep it up. Really looking forward to seeing more.

[Squibbit]

this , concept , design , modeling , everything , love it !

PS. I also agree with Ravendsg and mosconariz on the
design issue

:thumbsup: :thumbsup:

[Versiden]

Stylish man! sweet design

:beer:

[dunkel]

hi again varon von wink!

little by little the 3d model 3d is adjusting perfectly to the 2d concept, very clean mesh, congratulations!!!:applause:

thanks for reply in my thread, your words are very inspiring to my
:beer:

old-fashioned machinery.........RULZ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:thumbsup:

[is.it.living]

I like the idea.
Hope your 3D will match the concept.
:thumbsup:

[Ankalagon]

Droped by too say hy, wonderfull work man :) i sad it so many time that it lost any sense:), keep working mate

[Tremoside]

Baron from a Baron!

super character:bounce:

[tolin]

we need more!

[gpepper]

To be continued !!!!!!:thumbsup:

[tolin]

"some day a post will come"

[harnelbe]

:cry: :cry: :cry:
Where is The baron ?????

[BaronVonWink]

A warning to obsessive compulsive people like myself:

Do not buy the "City of Heros" online game!!

Since purchasing this game i have not opened Maya, got more than 5 hours sleep a night, been productive at work.... etc. etc. :(

I am not a big Gamer to say the least, but i have become obsessed with this game - I havent even been to these message boards since!

ug

well, the work being done here is certainly top notch and I applaude the commitment shown. Something I have lacked in the last couple of months.

cya around... I hope.

[Squibbit]

I can't believe this ! :eek: you're not just kidding ?

I'm like totally totally surprised !

I been to couple of games quite much and
there's been a few days with little sleep but
nothing that bad ever...I'm just stunned

..and i gotta check that game out , lol

yea hope to see you around , the work
you started here was one of the best

[KurtBoutilier]

Howard buddy e-mail some time you dont right you dont call hehehe... Glad to see your still alive mate..... I was like that with warcraft when it frist came out....

Talk later mate..


Kurt

[BaronVonWink]

Kurt- i just sent you an email... and it only took a month for me to respond. lol Your entry is awesome, great job!

Squibbit- yep, i am not kidding, i am very embarrased by the lack of proffesionalism i have shown. i need to redeam my self! maybe in the next comp? I have entered many of these challenges on another site and completed all but one, which was for a good reason - not like this one. I just checked out your 2d entery and your 2d work is stunning!

Later

[blacknoise]

very good stuff man. i love your concept.

the only crit i got is the shirt of this guy. the wrinkles in the chest area just dont look ok. straight lines, going symmetrical. it's the only "no no" ive found ;)

keep us up to date

[mosconariz]

:cry: Yours was the greatest concept! Burn out that videogame! Just can't believe it...

That's why I quit from playing videogames since Mario Bros. III :blush: Or it was Packman? :D

[tolin]

well, at least your gonna keep posting what you've completed, right???:sad:

[Cartesius]

My dear baron, you just have to finish this one. It was one of the most original and best approaches in the whole contest, and I'm absolutely positivie that if you had continued with it, it would have placed itself very, very near the top! :thumbsup:


/Anders

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