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IgorL 07-08-2002, 10:34 PM Hmm....I posted my old work.....
what you think about this?
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DXtreme
07-09-2002, 01:15 PM
hi is this fur or ice on the body?? if it fur or something like that..how to make???
anyway looks good
IgorL
07-17-2002, 12:18 AM
this is simple.....Shag:Fur.....
and Final Render......
sarfarazsoomro
07-17-2002, 01:51 AM
hmmm...good looking shag:fur....
But tell us what is this character???????///
IgorL
07-17-2002, 02:14 AM
what certanly you want know?????
sarfarazsoomro
07-17-2002, 02:20 AM
hmmm..yaeh i want to know that is he a real kar or a fantasy based one??????
I don't think it does exists ..'coz i can't see the mouth...
IgorL
07-17-2002, 02:34 AM
hehehe....you right.....this creature...my imagination
:buttrock:
IgorL
07-17-2002, 03:16 AM
......and this is Avatar - embodiment of a GOD...... mouth is not necessary for him....;)
sarfarazsoomro
07-17-2002, 03:34 AM
hmmm,...got ya :thumbsup: :wip:
edaddy
07-17-2002, 04:57 PM
_It .................
are u sure u came up w/ this character? or did u steal it from someone else like your last post - u can't make up for that shit
, it happened too many times
http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=14168
http://www.cgchat.com/board/showthread.php?threadid=6783
http://www.cgchat.com/board/showthread.php?threadid=6894
leigh
07-17-2002, 05:20 PM
edaddy - You do have the right to be upset about the racist image, and the plagarism, and I believe most of us still have suspicions about It's work, but please don't resort to being rude.
It has asked for forgiveness, and even if you feel that you don't want to forgive him, please keep comments like this to yourself. I know that as artists, we are all very passionate people, and you do have the right to be angry, but if you really have something to say to him, then rather do it in a more civil manner :)
Let's please keep the peace!
reaver
07-17-2002, 06:03 PM
Lets see the wireframe.
Yes I would also like to see wire frame as a method of proof so I know for sure that this is yours
damon579
07-17-2002, 09:23 PM
he looks cold. i also, would like to see the wireframe :)
MrWyatt
07-17-2002, 11:11 PM
Originally posted by Leigh
edaddy - You do have the right to be upset about the racist image, and the plagarism, and I believe most of us still have suspicions about It's work, but please don't resort to being rude.
It has asked for forgiveness, and even if you feel that you don't want to forgive him, please keep comments like this to yourself. I know that as artists, we are all very passionate people, and you do have the right to be angry, but if you really have something to say to him, then rather do it in a more civil manner :)
Let's please keep the peace!
Leigh, i for my part wonīt offend anybody who did stuff like this but i can understand people like me who feel personally offended, and not only because iīm black to the bone. i think itīs the fear that _It could happen to every one of us. and that is allways a scary thought, seeing your art posted by someone else or beeing confronted with racism of any sort. iīm not talking about skinheads running around bashing peoples heads or some KuKluxKlan-scum looking rediculous in their best blankets. iīm talking about everydays racism wich we tolerate every day and wich is hard to see, but i think in an artist-forum there shouldnīt be place for that. iīm very angry about _It, still i wonīt participate in any sort of witchhunt, because thatīs far under my niveau. you are right we shouldnt go around and be rude against someone who was allready pointed as a thief and racist. it has been said that should be enough. he has asked for forgiveness, ok. who wants to forgive him should do it, for those who donīt, and that includes me, shall not. thatīs about it. as far as iīm concerned i will not reply to any of those threads again. i was shocked, i was offended, but life has to go on right?
:wavey:
IgorL
07-17-2002, 11:36 PM
......ok........go to Gallery/Finish work.....post name REBORN
and see my wireframes.....
thanks all...
reaver
07-17-2002, 11:42 PM
I'm With you Mr Wyatt,
Life goes on.
_it (or maybe its cousin _it ) has posted his wireframes under the heading reborn and he has proven he hasn't ripped everything he's shown off.
But unless he's been reborn as a Black man he'll never understand how much he's pissed me off.
The kids got alot of growing up to do.
Me i'm gonna sup another beer, keep keeping the missus happy, keep perfecting my art (and hope no one steals it) and get on with my life.
I've got more than enough going for me to worry about this pissant.
See you in the funny pages.
Nick
IgorL
07-17-2002, 11:55 PM
thanks.....reaver believe me ....i am not a racist.....
I am STUPID man who is not able to joke......
I am a IDIOT......
So forgive me....if u can.....
:annoyed:
I am respect you all.....you a great and powerful artist.....
I want be like you......really.....
and i'm hope ....i'll be good artist too.....
thanks all.....!
reaver
07-18-2002, 12:46 AM
Fair enough _it.
Actions speak louder than words. I'm a live and let live kinda guy.
I don't like to preach and I don't like to be preached at but sometimes I can't help but give advice.
My advice to you is RESPECT.
Show it and you'll get it, we're not stupid here show us the RESPECT by not taking us for fools and trying to pass off works by an artist as great as Luis Royo as your own. Show him the RESPECT by not stealing his work and show yourself some RESPECT by making a good job of the work you do post.
I don't believe you are a racist, I hope you're not but show me and everyone else RESPECT by thinking a little bit more before you post.
I'm glad you posted your wireframes, its cleared some of the doubt I had in my mind about you. You've got alot of talent but you've still got a way to go and you'll find it easier to get there with the people on this and many other forums on your side.
Don't blow it.
I'm prepared to wipe the slate clean. Don't let me down man.
Later.
Nick
OrestesMantra
07-18-2002, 01:12 AM
I think you people are being WAY to harsh on this guy.
-Its obvious english isnt this guys strong point and it is probably not his native language(Or at least I hope so). He probably doesnt realize how powerful the word nigger is and was trying to make a joke. Take for example
this japanese skit that pokes at American blacks (http://www.mysterymeatgrinder.com/tokyo_breakfast.asp) . Its obvious they arent racist, only making a joke.Racist jokes are funny reguardless of who they make fun of.Whites,blacks,asians,etc. Dont take things so seriously and you'll enjoy life much more.
- He said he was sorry for leaving out the arists name and posted wireframes. He also never said he came up the idea by himself, only sketched it.
reaver
07-18-2002, 02:07 AM
Hmm OrestesMantra maybe you want to forget about your third eye and try prying open your other two.
How is it obvious that that vid isn't racist that could easily offend a whole lot of people.
Its a different kettle of fish anyway, they're taking the piss out of people that try to be black just like Ali G does over here, what they didn't show you was the black guy at the end cracking them over the head with the crate he was carrying for calling him "nigga".
Racist jokes are funny huh, yeah, when you're on the receiving end of them drop me a line and let me know how funny they are.
Yes he has posted his wireframes and apologized and thats to his credit but YOU'RE getting into deep water by trying to condone his racist crap by passing it off as a vague attempt at humor.
You ever notice that when people tell racist jokes they normally tell them to everybody but the race they're joking about.
I wonder why that is??
Maybe its because they wouldn't find them half as funny as you do.
later.
Nick.
IgorL
07-18-2002, 02:32 AM
big thanks OrestesMantra.......:beer:
Let's close this theme...... I think so it will be better for all...
OrestesMantra
07-18-2002, 02:40 AM
How is it obvious that that vid isn't racist that could easily offend a whole lot of people.
You dont have a big sense of humor do you?If you cant find a tiny bit of humor in the skit....*Shakes head*
Racist jokes are funny huh, yeah, when you're on the receiving end of them drop me a line and let me know how funny they are.
If you get offended at harmless jokes, thats sad. Really. Get a sense of humor, itll do you a wonder of good. I find jokes that make fun white people hilarious and vice versa.Alot of black comedians poke fun at white people and vice versa.Its called comedy.
You ever notice that when people tell racist jokes they normally tell them to everybody but the race they're joking about.
Not really.
*Ceases argument*
:rolleyes:
reaver
07-18-2002, 03:34 AM
What the F$*k are you talking about??
You don't know shit about my sense of humour, I find alot of things funny I even find you funny.
If you read my post again I likened that vid to Ali G , taking the piss out of people who WANT to be BLACK and I love Ali G.
Maybe you should watch it again. they are laughing at themselves not the other way around.
Theres an Asian comedy show over here that does exactly the same thing with a Asian family that thinks they are a posh English family and its F%$king hilarious.
So don't talk to me about getting a sense of humor.
I'll tell what would be really funny finding a room full of black people for you to try your racist "jokes" on and then watching you run for your life as they try to tear you limb from limb.
Well I'm laughing anyway, you see I have got a sense of humor!!
Make sure you want to go down this road before you reply and think carefully about what you say because you've got me in the mood for tearing a strip off someone.
You think racist jokes are funny Whoopi for you. Tell a few at work in front of your boss and see how long your job lasts.
Go to a black, Asian or any other minority neighborhood and tell a few and see how long your skin lasts (if you've got the BALLS)
Then when you finished and on welfare with those doctors bills mounting from the beating you just took. Stop by my place and I'll tell you a real funny joke about a stupid arssed white guy who just loved racist jokes.
Equinoxx
07-18-2002, 07:11 AM
how is it that the last few weeks more and more wip/gallery threads tend to be turned over to general chat about all kinds of topics UNRELATED to the wip/gallery post . . .
I suggest you lot take it out to general and post a big friggin racial believes thread . . . [not trying to offend anyone or choosing sides either, jsut doing my job]
no offence, but people have a tendency for wanting to be heard the last few weeks it seems in threads that they have NO right in taking over . . .
so people, leave the wip and gallery forums for critiques on art and move your heavy topis into the general area ok, thx.
leigh
07-18-2002, 07:25 AM
Ok, this thread has got a little out of hand now.
Sure racism is a terrible, disgusting thing - I live in South Africa, so I sure know A LOT about it.
Yes, his picture was tasteless, offensive and completely inappropriate to put on the Internet.
But this is not the place to discuss it.
I'm closing this thread.
If you wish to continue this debate, please do so via PM.
or make a thread in general area [don't want to police freedom of speech ;)]
cheers,
Equinoxx
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