Tyan or MSI motherboard

[lukx]

Tyan is the best solution for dual systems.

[MadMax]

I'll second that.

MSI's board is a flawed design.

[MattClary]

Definitely Tyan. :beer:

[GregHess]

Tyan.

[844x]

what mean about the price

[lukx]

http://resellerratings.dealtime.com/xPP-Motherboards-motherboards-2_cpus-tyan

[murtle]

TYAN or may be IWILL.

http://www.linuxhardware.org/article.pl?sid=04/03/24/1933214&mode=thread

IWIIL run faster in SPECViewperf. But netperf is horrible!

Both are Linux certificated!

[201]

All my duallies are Tyan... So, naturally I'd say Tyan is better.

Buy this one: http://www.tyan.com/products/html/thunderk8qs.html

[3Dfx_Sage]

number one is Tyan. I got an IWILL cause Tyan didnt have a board that would satisfy my needs and am very happy with it, although the tech support was non-existant for me. MSI... I will NEVER touch an MSI product again, I don't care what it is.

[murtle]

IWILL had some faulties with technical design in the past. But not MSI like. Cuz MSI still in thier way. I'm not fan of IWILL.

[loop29]

Well, all Tyan boards that I had under my gouty fingers were troublesome. That were mostly Tyan Tiger and Thunder-boards for Athlon MP´s. All of them had problems with the bios, restarting sometimes or didn´t shut down properly. I don´t know why everybody is trashing MSI, they have very good boards and good prices and the most important for me, they always have a couple of boards without northbridge fan. Pick the one you like most, both are good in my eyes.

regards

[Keiyentai]

Originally posted by 201
All my duallies are Tyan... So, naturally I'd say Tyan is better.

Buy this one: http://www.tyan.com/products/html/thunderk8qs.html
:eek: :eek: :drool: I WANT THAT MOTHERBOARD!!!!!

[murtle]

All my duallies are Tyan... So, naturally I'd say Tyan is better. Buy this one: http://www.tyan.com/products/html/thunderk8qs.html

No AGP or PCI-Express on this board. AFAIK only 3D labs has video card for PCI-X. IMO this board for servers and renderfarm only. Not for Workstations.

So I don't want to argue with that but if you don't try others then how could you know Tyan is better.


@loop29

IMO - MSI has no stability issue in most cases. It's had cheap
BIOS tweaking and bad ATX layout design. Tyan may send to Germany some garbage product but surely other firm do this occasionally. Same Bad Luck with me on ASUS.

sorry for my english.

Cheers

[3Dfx_Sage]

Originally posted by loop29
restarting sometimes or didn´t shut down properly
sounds like power supply problems to me.

[MadMax]

Originally posted by loop29
Well, all Tyan boards that I had under my gouty fingers were troublesome. That were mostly Tyan Tiger and Thunder-boards for Athlon MP´s. All of them had problems with the bios, restarting sometimes or didn´t shut down properly. I don´t know why everybody is trashing MSI, they have very good boards and good prices and the most important for me, they always have a couple of boards without northbridge fan. Pick the one you like most, both are good in my eyes.

regards

I've built computers pretty much as long as there have been parts to build from.

I have never had issues with Tyan products. In fact most of the complaints about the Tiger and Thunder K7 boards were operator error.

There was a huge whining fit over on one of the fanboy sites back when the Thunder K7 first came out, and people screamed that Tyan was the worst out there. And that Tyan owed them a refund.

It took me all of a day at the most to figure out that the Tyan board had a couple of minor issues with 256mb dimms from Crucial, and did not like the samsung sticks at all.

A 2.00 heatsink to place on north and southbridge chips solved heating issues which were more AMD's fault than the builder.

On the flip side, I saw absolute horrors with MSI products, dimm sockets not soldered, numerous dead in the box and other unpleasantries.

I saw people who were very computer literate return 2 or more MSI boards in a row all legitimately defective.

Obviously if you get a good one you are fine, but it seems that there are quite a few people who have gotten bad boards from MSI and it appears your odds of getting a bad board are greater than with other brands.

As for the recommendations, the Tyan K8W has AGP, and PCI-X slots.

It's a rock solid stable machine and is well suited to use as a graphics workstation.

[loop29]

Originally posted by 3Dfx_Sage
sounds like power supply problems to me.


On 5 systems with AMD compliant PS´s? I don´t think so. However, we dumped them completely for CAD development, they are spending their time now in the office and bugging the marketing department with their sound. And they deserve it, hehe.

regards

[loop29]

Originally posted by MadMax
I've built computers pretty much as long as there have been parts to build from.

I have never had issues with Tyan products. In fact most of the complaints about the Tiger and Thunder K7 boards were operator error.

As for the recommendations, the Tyan K8W has AGP, and PCI-X slots.

It's a rock solid stable machine and is well suited to use as a graphics workstation.

I second that Tyan builds good motherboards, I was just describing my experiences with MSI and Tyan. The other brand I found making very interesting boards is supermicro (http://www.supermicro.com/)

regards

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