Beast of Burden - Character - Marc

[Artifex]

Qucik caracter sketch:

[Artifex]

an idea for the back carying thingny:

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Sculpture:

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no2:

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no3:

[Artifex]

I will post some 3D grabs soon. Once I started actually modelling it that is :)

[ZrO-1]

hehehe I thought that those pics were the 3D model for a second. I was like: "holy crap that guys quick!!!" LOL

Anyway, it looks like a cool concept. And you definetly have good source material. ;)

[Artifex]

Virtuoso:

Thank you, and yes it's super sculpey, it's not baked yet since I want to add in details.

It's a cool medium , you can do it on the couch.

For the digitiser I think it's not really in the spirit of this contest, plus I dont have on avalable. Anyways, at this point I prefer modeling my own surface more than cleaning up the scanned sculpture.
:p

[erilaz]

With a bit of light tweaking and some creative wireframing, you could have almost passed the clay model off as 3d!
:thumbsup:

You could post comparison frames as you model, so we can see the likeness.

[Artifex]

Just moving this one back up to the start of the list so I can get some crits. :)

[Iguiniz.X.]

Why don't you make a laser scan of him, you know those scanners which can scan clay moddels into 3D in the PC, really expensive stuff:shrug:
Nice to see a clay moddel for a chance Why not make that one in collor and so on it is to 3D or can only CG be used, well it is a CG forum, but why not.
Character is looking fun, can't wait to see it in a 3D program.
What are those metal things for to hold him up or are those chains to a rock?
maybbe he can pull a big rock that is still hanging behind him, He escaped with it from prison>OR something.

:wavey:

[Artifex]

Iguiniz.X : It's an idea. But on the sculpture the metal things just to hold up the model in that pose so I can work on him without him somewhat melting down.

[Artifex]

Hello everyone, sorry if I don't post to often, I havent had time to work on the caracter much.

I started on the head, heres what I've got for now.

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Bring some comments please:

[Artifex]

3d

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[erilaz]

Those things are freaking me out... :surprised

Great! Bit of poly-intersection (my word of the week) going on with those arms. The creases on the face are nice!

[Artifex]

Thanks.
I just started to model the legs, they don't completely fit with the shorts. :hmm:

[Gollum]

super sculpey eh? looks incredible, gotta check that out soemtime, would be something quite interesting to play with I guess, thanks for the inspiration! :)
The character is very cool btw, love the concept. Its also something not many others seem to have tried so its definitely original IMHO! Making good progress so far, looking forward to see the rest in 3D! :thumbsup:

[Artifex]

Gollum: Yeah sculpey is real cool. You can do it any time you want cause it's not messy. And doesn't dry till you cook it. It's like a hightech mix of plasticin and maze.

Thanks for the reply I'll try and keep posting more often.

[caliman]

:beer: funny

[Artifex]

A small update:

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Looking at this pic I'm starting to wonder if it should not have smal almost tiny arms instead of the big ones I'f got in the sculpture.
What do you guys (and gals) think?

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[Fetus23]

This looks cool...reminds me of critters. Good idea to scuplt it out first, I don't believe i've seen anyone else do that in here.
A couple of crits : define the hands some more (like the feet)...I would also like to see him with his mouth open...get some teeth and a tounge in there..

fetus

[Artifex]

Real good idea for the theet and mouth, it never came to mind.
Thanks alot you just gave me some insparation.
:beer:

[Artifex]

So then I said 'Say cheese!' and this is what happend. (Still lots ans lots of details to add but at least this time I didn't have just an hour to work on it like those last renders.)

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[Crode]

lol those creatures especially with teeth are going to give me nightmares tonight ;) Great job! Ive been using just plain messy style clay for sculpting. Where can this sculptey stuff be bought?

[Artifex]

Thanks. It can be found in art stores.
Here's what it looks like.

[Artifex]

Oups link: http://www.supersculpey.com

[Koma]

ah ah funny beast .....:bounce: :buttrock:

[Artifex]

Thanks Gabe!
Now here's whats next on my list: Lips, detailed hands, bumps and zits. clothing folds, nails, mouth interior.

[Fetus23]

hey marc...those teeth added so much to this little guy!!! I really like the way its going now. and those little pants...hhahaha great stuff!!!

fetus

[Artifex]

Ya well I played alot with the proportions of this little guy. Thanks again for the idea of the teeths.

:beer:

[Artifex]

New update.

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side

[Artifex]

Do you guys think I should loose the shorts and model an ass?

I chose this caracter because he is chalenging in a sense that it is hard to figure out where to add details for him to become organic.
I'm working at that right now. I think alot of detail is there just not crisp enough. I thend to smooth the lines on him a bit too much I think...

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Shorts or no shorts?
I guess no shorts...

[ZrO-1]

Hey marc, awesome job re-creating your sculpture in CG. Now that I see it in 3D it's freaking me out. I don't know what it is but something about this model gives me the willies. Especially with the open mouth and big-ole teeth...*shiver*:surprised
I don't know it hit's me like something from E.A. Poe.

[Artifex]

Well I dicided to loose the shorts, I felt it was holding my back detail wise. What do you think?

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[ZrO-1]

Awesome job on the modeling. I like the beast better without the shorts. Only crit would be that the "keychain-loop" on the top of it's head makes it look like a small toy.

[i play atari]

reminds me of the Sharkticons from Transformers, cool looking

[Artifex]

Ya zro-1 your right, I was thinking of removing that detail and maybe even making the head rounder. I really have to start on the rest of it too. The challenge ends soon.

[Artifex]

i play atari: Sharkticons??

Is that in the new transformers? I really don't remember those. Got a pic?

[Artifex]

Ok guys small modifs but important ones.

[Artifex]

Ok so in that last post I played with the proportions again, added detail and stuff.

Thank you everyone who post on this thread.
I wanna hear what you don't like about it.

Crits! Crits! Crits!

:)

[ZrO-1]

what is the orange roll thing on the back of it's armpit?

[Artifex]

hehe, I'll get a close-up of that latter. It's just an object thats gonna support the harnest.

Again: Comme on crits crits crits!!
:)

[ZrO-1]

hmmm crits...
From that last camera angle the outside toe looks detached from the heel. The main middle toe looks very square still. And I'd like to see the head have that "brainy" bump to it that you had in the sculpture now that you got rid of the key-chain loop. ;) :D

[phil]

I'm being picky, but since you asked for crits...

The arms bother me. I like them, it's great modelling but the elbow doesn't feel like it would bend in the right place. I think the base of it needs to be pushed back.
The hands are on a funny angle, rotated up just too much, I know this will change when you pose him, but I'm being picky.
The fingers come out from the hands in too much of a straight line, like you made the hand from a box and just extruded fingers.
I think that they hands could be bigger too, get a bit more power into them.

Don't get me wrong dude I think your model is excellent, I'm just trying to offer some constructive crits, some of them might just be personal opinion in which case feel free to discard them as the ravings of a mad man.

Hope this helps. :)

[ZrO-1]

Oh and about the Transformers Sharkticon comment, here's a pic:

[zeb]

Great :)

I love the proportion of this cute beast ;) very funny.

[Artifex]

Thank you all, that's what I want!
I'll work on those features.

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[Artifex]

Well finished for now with the print screens :)

Here's a couple of Brazil renders of my BOB. I also modeled the object its going to pull but I'm keeping that for later. :)

[Artifex]

aaaaaaaaaaaaaannd....

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[Artifex]

Well this is his burden, to pull and destroy buildings. I think its within guidelines right?

It still lacks some detail behind the colums: doors and stuff.

[Mandrake]

oo. what a coincidence.. did you see the Hiko's thread?
good monster, funny and scary at the same time ..I like that

[Artifex]

No actually I didn't see the Hiko thread... I'll go check that out.

[Artifex]

Ah man, thanks for telling me, that's a real bummer. I was inspired by the Pise tower, he's doing the real thing, well I guess I will destroy this, he did it first.

:annoyed:

[hiko_]

Hi !

I really love your creature, awfull, beautiful, kindy and bad at same time. :)

Fot the Pise tower it 's not a matter ! Continu with it !
It' just a coincidence ... sorry.

[Artifex]

A new pose I did yesterday.

[derwolpertinger]

hey lookin cool!:cool: only thing i don't like so much is the symmetry of the toes, they are all the same angle from the heel-try to vary that a bit. but really good work! congrats!:thumbsup:

[Artifex]

derwolpertinger: Thanks for the crit, your right. There's also a problem with the right shoulder I have to fix.

[Artifex]

I figured I'd post the same shot with some detail added.

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and here's pose no2.

[Artifex]

oh and ahhh, just imagine there are cables attached to the harnest...

[ojquammun]

LOL, it looks like it's singing a Sinatra song (is that a micro in his right hand? ;)

I like the design, though its cartoony look make it look less dangerous. I think if it is a beast capable of destroying buildings, its hands should be bigger and stronger.

Cheers

[Artifex]

hmmm... Now that you've said that, I just can't see anything else.
Here's some other angles. Any crits?

[Artifex]

I went to read the new guidelines and I felt I posted too much in the past so I'll be deleting pass images that I feel are not important to show the progress and putting the notice: *cleanup* (sorry for that)
Guidelines:
http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=15751

[Artifex]

I decided on a new concept (since the old one was allready in use by Hiko...) So the new one is that my BOBs are small creatures that where found by a trouble maker adolescent that forces them to pull his stuff around for him.

So this is the wagon they put the stuff in. :)

[Artifex]

Anyone got crits?

[i play atari]

this looks awesome, if I could buy one as a pet I would.....although....it would probably try to eat me:airguitar

[Koma]

amusant le nouveau concept et la brouette est super

[Artifex]

Well I'm really not as far is I wanted to be, with job and house life it's hard to find the time and energy to work on this but the idea is so fun that it pushes me to be on my computer while my girfriend is at the pool. Man that hard.. :P
Well starting to set-up the scene. I really got to work fast cause I can't work on this tonight nor tomorow before 22h00. Outch.

[OZ]

since u post on my thread i was fascinated by ur avatar,and :surprised SURPRISE!!!!u are involved into this icredible challenge!!! I rally like ur style!IZ a sin that u dont
use the tower of Pisa!!anyway...............:applause: Great stuff here!

[Artifex]

Thanks Oz, I love your style also. Maybe I'll put the tower in as a toy. I changed my user name in the middle of the challenge that's why the thread name is my real name.

[Artifex]

Update - update quick quick
What happened to the feet? A bit blasted too.

[ZrO-1]

hahaha That's looking really cool Marc. I like what you did with the wagon for the burden. Great stuff. :thumbsup: :applause:

[Drongo Stabbins]

Good work Artifex!
I like the little sucker cups on the end of the ropes/string!
Good poses too!
Excellent!

[erilaz]

Wow Artifex, I'm impressed! That model has really come a long way! I love the cart and the suction cups! Great details. :D

The beasts are cool and kinda cute with a dangerous streak! What a combination!:thumbsup:

Gee, every max user (myself included) loves using that brazil public beta!

[Artifex]

Zro1: Thanks alot man!

Drongo Sabbins: Thank you also. I'm doing some other poses to put in for the challenge final. Just 3 hours to go before I have to hit render button.

Erilax: Glad you like it. For Brazil it's a good renderer, and free :)

[Pancreas]

Haha, i really dig your potato beast, they are so expressive!
Love the detail of the eyelids, the big mouths, those short legs... very nice design!

[Artifex]

Here"s another little render test I did yesterday. I'm now off to add the new stuff.

Pancreas, thanks, I worked alot at the desing of these creatures.

[Artifex]

First final image:
C'mon 3dsMax render render!

[Artifex]

P.S. Just colors and some small bumps. Hope that's ok with the mods. I think its within guidelines.

[Artifex]

Well since I didn't get any replys from the moderators I guess I'll just post in a monocrome of that last render while there is still time.

[Artifex]

Well these Brazil renders are pretty long, just one minute in Max scanline but not the same result :P so I won't be able to post any other angles but will probably post them on my web page soon. For close-ups of the caracter and the wagon browse the 2 previous pages. :)

[MikeRhone]

Good character design! Its good to see a few post that dont have MASSIVE beasts hauling huge things around. Pretty creepy though. If I saw one of those things taking my Red Flyer, I'de let them keep it. For what its worth, I prefer the monochromatic render. When you are limited to basic colors and no textures, it gives everything an amature "Early days of cg" feel to it. My only real critique would be to see a few more bump maps around. The characters have nice subtle ones which work, but maybe some nice scratches on that wagon would finish this shot right off.

:thumbsup:

Mike R

My Beast of Burdon (http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=15302)

[zenzmurfy]

Are you planning to animate these guys? I really like the design! They totally creep me out! :) Ever consider brighter colors or even fur?

[Artifex]

Thanks for the comments guys! Ya I think I'll do some more on these guys in my free time.

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