shawnalanpeters
03-22-2004, 04:35 PM
Shawn Alan Peters has entered the Machineflesh 2D Challenge.
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shawnalanpeters
03-22-2004, 04:46 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/2695/2695_1079973956_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/2695/2695_1079973956_large.jpg)
This is the final rough.
This is the final rough.
shawnalanpeters
03-22-2004, 04:48 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/2695/2695_1079974083_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/2695/2695_1079974083_large.jpg)
This is the final rough.
This is the final rough.
shawnalanpeters
03-22-2004, 04:55 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/2695/2695_1079974517_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/2695/2695_1079974517_large.jpg)
This is the clean up.. This helps me nail down the perspective and refine details.
This is the clean up.. This helps me nail down the perspective and refine details.
Friedric P
03-22-2004, 04:57 PM
Really like this drawing. She has a strong evocative presence. And I love the mechanical hair... In fact, I wanted to do that with my entry^^
Good luck! :)
Good luck! :)
shawnalanpeters
03-22-2004, 05:02 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/2695/2695_1079974964_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/2695/2695_1079974964_large.jpg)
This is my first pass at understanding where I want the color to go.
This is my first pass at understanding where I want the color to go.
marcnail
03-22-2004, 05:28 PM
beautiful line art. did you use some
reference for the face ?
m.
reference for the face ?
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shawnalanpeters
03-22-2004, 05:36 PM
Yeah, I used reference. It helps me take it further and I have not been doing much life drawing ... so I am a little out of practice...
when I am drawing everyday for more than a month..I can hop into it from my head... The next one I do for the contest will be done without reference.
when I am drawing everyday for more than a month..I can hop into it from my head... The next one I do for the contest will be done without reference.
jawine
03-22-2004, 05:46 PM
It's a lovely drawing, I don't see any special concept/story behind it though.
Is there some concept behind this drawing or is she just a very well looking cyborg-like creature? :)
Is there some concept behind this drawing or is she just a very well looking cyborg-like creature? :)
joerhoney
03-22-2004, 05:52 PM
THAT'S SWEET!:buttrock:
shawnalanpeters
03-22-2004, 06:11 PM
There is a story behind all on my character concepts...
If I didn't have a story and history in my head about the character as I painted them it wouldn't be as fun or as interesting for me to finish. some times they are elaborate, sometimes they are extensive.
If I didn't have a story and history in my head about the character as I painted them it wouldn't be as fun or as interesting for me to finish. some times they are elaborate, sometimes they are extensive.
shawnalanpeters
03-22-2004, 06:26 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/2695/2695_1079979999_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/2695/2695_1079979999_large.jpg)
this is the first pass on the final drawing.
this is the first pass on the final drawing.
Phantom__2
03-22-2004, 06:49 PM
:applause: Holy cow you rule. I was thinking of entering but so much for first place. LOL How do you get the face to look so smooth and perfectly shaded? I am a Photoshop armature and am just now getting a handle on the smudge tool and wacom intous2. Looking great keep it up.
gmask
03-22-2004, 09:59 PM
Reminds me alot of the Bjork "All is love video" directed by Chris Cunningham.. at any rate she looks mostly like an android and not so much a human that has been enhanced.
Nice image though :thumbsup:
Nice image though :thumbsup:
j.peeba
03-22-2004, 10:34 PM
Very sweet and slick work!
But I would also be tempted to hear some background info on the character. Most importantly why is she modified to what she is now.:beer:
But I would also be tempted to hear some background info on the character. Most importantly why is she modified to what she is now.:beer:
shawnalanpeters
03-22-2004, 11:41 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/2695/2695_1079998892_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/2695/2695_1079998892_large.jpg)
Building up the light...
Building up the light...
ill_logic
03-22-2004, 11:58 PM
nice! wasn't this on cgchannel a while back?
the mechanics & the details on the surfaces are great, but i agree with what gmask said though. there's no human element to it, really. looks like it's all machine, no flesh lol
-J
the mechanics & the details on the surfaces are great, but i agree with what gmask said though. there's no human element to it, really. looks like it's all machine, no flesh lol
-J
dedsol
03-23-2004, 01:51 AM
personally i dig it. and i do see flesh, might not be the "flesh" that we know as humans but its right there... in the shading of muscles etc... this tinkers along the lines of my first idea but, i have more. Anywho i like it. Just like my style of art.
shawnalanpeters
03-23-2004, 03:43 AM
phantom2, Thanks for the compliment. Very much appreciated. To answer your question about the shading. I use traditional techniques that carried over from doing illustrations in acrylic. I block out my major shapes with their darkest color...at least 2-3values lighter than black. I like saving black 'till the very end. Usually, I won't have to use very much black because the hue/contrast relationships that happen when you lay a color in next to another color. The color relationships create their own darks if used wisely. The next step is to build/model the surface by adding light. I like mix the same "light" color into all of my "major shape" colors, regardless of how different they are. This also helps keep color harmony. I also try to avoid using white for this "light" color also. This way, you have more room to pop the highlights at the end...and keeps me from going to far ..to fast.
shawnalanpeters
03-23-2004, 03:46 AM
gmask, I gotta say...I was inspired by the Cunningham video... heavily!...I couldn't get that piece of eyecandy out my head... I still think it is one of the most beautiful things I have ever seen.
shawnalanpeters
03-23-2004, 04:32 AM
Ok...time to give you guys the story... first off ...yes it was on CGChannel. I finished it recently...and thought it fit the bill for this contest..and would open an oportunity to share some of my process. I do plan on creating a second character specifically for this contest... as soon as next week. I can't wait to take it even furthur and tighter that this one....so keep a look out..
OK...now for the explanation on who this character is..?
She is fully funtional synthetic/human hybrid concept, created by electronics giant PsyonyCo. to showcase and generate sales in thier fast pace Cybernetic market. They are the leader in robotic prosthetics, electronic implants, and cross genetic human solutions. They are dedicated to human advancement through artificial and permanent genetic alteration. She may be less organic than she is syntyhetic...30% human at most... but you can't deny the achievements... gentically bonded rubber polymers in the skin tissue, radically advanced composite exoskeleton, the newest in high density alloys sculpted into a smooth flowing, articulated subframe. Synergistcally combined to the electronic system is a human brain and heart...complete an entirely intact nervous and vascular system...all wrapped in a self repairing, flexble shell. Cosmetically designed by a team industry favorite robotics designers. Showcasing at conventions worldwide..check your local listing for upcoming events.
...that was fun!
OK...now for the explanation on who this character is..?
She is fully funtional synthetic/human hybrid concept, created by electronics giant PsyonyCo. to showcase and generate sales in thier fast pace Cybernetic market. They are the leader in robotic prosthetics, electronic implants, and cross genetic human solutions. They are dedicated to human advancement through artificial and permanent genetic alteration. She may be less organic than she is syntyhetic...30% human at most... but you can't deny the achievements... gentically bonded rubber polymers in the skin tissue, radically advanced composite exoskeleton, the newest in high density alloys sculpted into a smooth flowing, articulated subframe. Synergistcally combined to the electronic system is a human brain and heart...complete an entirely intact nervous and vascular system...all wrapped in a self repairing, flexble shell. Cosmetically designed by a team industry favorite robotics designers. Showcasing at conventions worldwide..check your local listing for upcoming events.
...that was fun!
gmask
03-23-2004, 04:43 AM
Originally posted by shawnalanpeters
gmask, I gotta say...I was inspired by the Cunningham video... heavily!...I couldn't get that piece of eyecandy out my head... I still think it is one of the most beautiful things I have ever seen.
Yeah it was cool.. but I bet you could come up with a more original idea ;-) .. at any rate based on your description it sounds like this cybernetic model was build/grown from the ground up or were the organs from a donor body? IE the mechanics should be added to an exisitng organism whereas with her it sounds like the organs were added to the machine and not the other way around. Anyway that's just my interpretation of the "mission".
gmask, I gotta say...I was inspired by the Cunningham video... heavily!...I couldn't get that piece of eyecandy out my head... I still think it is one of the most beautiful things I have ever seen.
Yeah it was cool.. but I bet you could come up with a more original idea ;-) .. at any rate based on your description it sounds like this cybernetic model was build/grown from the ground up or were the organs from a donor body? IE the mechanics should be added to an exisitng organism whereas with her it sounds like the organs were added to the machine and not the other way around. Anyway that's just my interpretation of the "mission".
shawnalanpeters
03-23-2004, 04:55 AM
WOW, you are a hard sell ...I thought that was pretty good for making it up as I wrote it 5 minutes ago... Do you have any suggestions? advice?
do you have anything I can look at..? I am curious what kind of work you do.
do you have anything I can look at..? I am curious what kind of work you do.
shawnalanpeters
03-23-2004, 05:07 AM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/2695/2695_1080018462_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/2695/2695_1080018462_large.jpg)
Still modeling out the light..
Still modeling out the light..
gmask
03-23-2004, 05:27 AM
Originally posted by shawnalanpeters
WOW, you are a hard sell ...I thought that was pretty good for making it up as I wrote it 5 minutes ago... Do you have any suggestions? advice?
do you have anything I can look at..? I am curious what kind of work you do.
Okay well you have to start a new one right cause this one allready existed right?
Steve Austin (six million dollar man) was mangled in a crash and was mechanically enhanced.. that is a good example of what I think they are describing.... but I see alot of borgs and cyber women which don't stray too far from what we expect from human machine combos on other recognizable influences. (I'm not suggesting steve austin)
Maybe the basis of these cyber girls was some original person.. a fashion model perhaps who was horribly disfigured but was brought back by super duper mechnical engineering.
I do alot of different stuff..
WOW, you are a hard sell ...I thought that was pretty good for making it up as I wrote it 5 minutes ago... Do you have any suggestions? advice?
do you have anything I can look at..? I am curious what kind of work you do.
Okay well you have to start a new one right cause this one allready existed right?
Steve Austin (six million dollar man) was mangled in a crash and was mechanically enhanced.. that is a good example of what I think they are describing.... but I see alot of borgs and cyber women which don't stray too far from what we expect from human machine combos on other recognizable influences. (I'm not suggesting steve austin)
Maybe the basis of these cyber girls was some original person.. a fashion model perhaps who was horribly disfigured but was brought back by super duper mechnical engineering.
I do alot of different stuff..
Kirt
03-23-2004, 06:51 AM
Originally posted by shawnalanpeters
Ok...time to give you guys the story... first off ...yes it was on CGChannel. I finished it recently...and thought it fit the bill for this contest..I'm sorry to be the one to tell you this, but any work started before March 16th is not allowed in this challenge. It doesn't matter if it wasn't finished or you plan to add more to an already existing illustration ... the illustration is going to be disqualified.
You have to begin something new, meaning you are not allowed to bring anything to this challenge other than a blank sheet of paper and an idea. No sketch, no thumbnail, no unfinished work or doodle in the corner of a scrap piece of paper.
The illustration is good, but can't be used in this challenge. Sorry.
Ok...time to give you guys the story... first off ...yes it was on CGChannel. I finished it recently...and thought it fit the bill for this contest..I'm sorry to be the one to tell you this, but any work started before March 16th is not allowed in this challenge. It doesn't matter if it wasn't finished or you plan to add more to an already existing illustration ... the illustration is going to be disqualified.
You have to begin something new, meaning you are not allowed to bring anything to this challenge other than a blank sheet of paper and an idea. No sketch, no thumbnail, no unfinished work or doodle in the corner of a scrap piece of paper.
The illustration is good, but can't be used in this challenge. Sorry.
duddlebug
03-23-2004, 10:19 AM
Nice image...really well executed!
Any chance of an image between the first two colour images?
There's a very sudden change from blocked out colour to the tightly finished head. It'd be nice to see the transition.
Any chance of an image between the first two colour images?
There's a very sudden change from blocked out colour to the tightly finished head. It'd be nice to see the transition.
bombproof
03-23-2004, 11:12 AM
Originally posted by Kirt
I'm sorry to be the one to tell you this, but any work started before March 16th is not allowed in this challenge. It doesn't matter if it wasn't finished or you plan to add more to an already existing illustration ... the illustration is going to be disqualified.
You have to begin something new, meaning you are not allowed to bring anything to this challenge other than a blank sheet of paper and an idea. No sketch, no thumbnail, no unfinished work or doodle in the corner of a scrap piece of paper.
The illustration is good, but can't be used in this challenge. Sorry.
I'll have to agree with Kirt
This is from page 5 of the FAQ thread.
Originally posted by Leigh
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Am i able to use a 2d concept that ive made prior to this contest? or does the concept sketch have to be new as well?
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Please don't use anything created prior to the start of the challenge, whether they are sketches, models, scenes, etc. Of course ideas you thought up ages ago are fine but all actual creations must be new, please.
I'm sorry to be the one to tell you this, but any work started before March 16th is not allowed in this challenge. It doesn't matter if it wasn't finished or you plan to add more to an already existing illustration ... the illustration is going to be disqualified.
You have to begin something new, meaning you are not allowed to bring anything to this challenge other than a blank sheet of paper and an idea. No sketch, no thumbnail, no unfinished work or doodle in the corner of a scrap piece of paper.
The illustration is good, but can't be used in this challenge. Sorry.
I'll have to agree with Kirt
This is from page 5 of the FAQ thread.
Originally posted by Leigh
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Am i able to use a 2d concept that ive made prior to this contest? or does the concept sketch have to be new as well?
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Please don't use anything created prior to the start of the challenge, whether they are sketches, models, scenes, etc. Of course ideas you thought up ages ago are fine but all actual creations must be new, please.
Quizboy
03-23-2004, 11:41 AM
Ok I think shawnalanpeters already said that he would be starting another concept soon. I think this was meant as a sort of warmup...but what a warmup it is! Great Looking!
i have a similar concept, but now you've stricken the fear of god into me... I will need a mechanical implant in the photoshop part of my brain to win this contest!
i have a similar concept, but now you've stricken the fear of god into me... I will need a mechanical implant in the photoshop part of my brain to win this contest!
rickycox
03-23-2004, 01:24 PM
Great work, but it looks like something I've seen before.
shawnalanpeters
03-23-2004, 03:40 PM
duddlebug....here are some extra preliminary steps...
Iwas thinking the same thing this mornining...
and ..yes I will be doing a piece just for the contest... It will be way more involved and more technical than this piece... keep and eye out... I really need that wacom!
Iwas thinking the same thing this mornining...
and ..yes I will be doing a piece just for the contest... It will be way more involved and more technical than this piece... keep and eye out... I really need that wacom!
shawnalanpeters
03-23-2004, 03:44 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/2695/2695_1080056683_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/2695/2695_1080056683_large.jpg)
I needed to back up a bit and show the blocking out that I do... This is blocking out the major shapes with the darkest value.
I needed to back up a bit and show the blocking out that I do... This is blocking out the major shapes with the darkest value.
shawnalanpeters
03-23-2004, 03:46 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/2695/2695_1080056809_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/2695/2695_1080056809_large.jpg)
this is the start of blocking out the mainlight source... everything will eventually build off of this first light pass I do over the entire image.
this is the start of blocking out the mainlight source... everything will eventually build off of this first light pass I do over the entire image.
shawnalanpeters
03-23-2004, 03:47 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/2695/2695_1080056873_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/2695/2695_1080056873_large.jpg)
this is the ongoing process of flushing out the main light source.
this is the ongoing process of flushing out the main light source.
shawnalanpeters
03-23-2004, 03:53 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/2695/2695_1080057183_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/2695/2695_1080057183_large.jpg)
this is the main light source blocked in... usually I do a pass over the whole thing ..quickly and end up deleting it at the end..but in this case I worked it out so that I would use it in the end... I had the image in my head for a long time and knew where I wanted to go.
this is the main light source blocked in... usually I do a pass over the whole thing ..quickly and end up deleting it at the end..but in this case I worked it out so that I would use it in the end... I had the image in my head for a long time and knew where I wanted to go.
duddlebug
03-23-2004, 04:11 PM
thanks Shawn (?)...
I really enjoy looking at other artists' working process, and there was a pretty big jump in this set of paintings.
This does bear a resemblance to the Bjork video, but you've already said there'll be a brand new piece. And with your technical ability, I'm sure everyone on this thread will look forward to seeing it.
But we all reeeeeally want that wacom....
Good luck!!
I really enjoy looking at other artists' working process, and there was a pretty big jump in this set of paintings.
This does bear a resemblance to the Bjork video, but you've already said there'll be a brand new piece. And with your technical ability, I'm sure everyone on this thread will look forward to seeing it.
But we all reeeeeally want that wacom....
Good luck!!
Eternal Dream
03-23-2004, 05:56 PM
Great work dude!I' ve just seen your work and i have a question:do you use something in particular for a so perfect lineart?
shawnalanpeters
03-23-2004, 06:43 PM
Originally posted by Eternal Dream
Great work dude!I' ve just seen your work and i have a question:do you use something in particular for a so perfect lineart?
yes I do...it took me a while to figure out this latest combo of media. The first thing is....working with hard pencils...2h is my personal preference for most papers. For this image I work out my rough drawings on layers of "graphics 360" Rag translucent marker paper. It is more durable and smoother than tracing paper and cheaper than vellum. I traced over my rough with a sheet of vellum for the final line drawing with a 2H pencil... I also keep a 2 mechnical pencils ..one 2h lead and one hb lead. this helps in the tight areas....and I recently started using a "sakura" electric eraser.... it lets you get the paper back to it's perfectly clean state...and you can get really sharp hightlights with it too.
Great work dude!I' ve just seen your work and i have a question:do you use something in particular for a so perfect lineart?
yes I do...it took me a while to figure out this latest combo of media. The first thing is....working with hard pencils...2h is my personal preference for most papers. For this image I work out my rough drawings on layers of "graphics 360" Rag translucent marker paper. It is more durable and smoother than tracing paper and cheaper than vellum. I traced over my rough with a sheet of vellum for the final line drawing with a 2H pencil... I also keep a 2 mechnical pencils ..one 2h lead and one hb lead. this helps in the tight areas....and I recently started using a "sakura" electric eraser.... it lets you get the paper back to it's perfectly clean state...and you can get really sharp hightlights with it too.
shawnalanpeters
03-23-2004, 06:55 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/2695/2695_1080068127_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/2695/2695_1080068127_large.jpg)
all blocked in...
all blocked in...
shawnalanpeters
03-23-2004, 06:57 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/2695/2695_1080068227_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/2695/2695_1080068227_large.jpg)
This adding the reflected light...helps round it out. Also adding my blacks and finishing up the eyes.
This adding the reflected light...helps round it out. Also adding my blacks and finishing up the eyes.
shawnalanpeters
03-23-2004, 06:59 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/2695/2695_1080068369_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/2695/2695_1080068369_large.jpg)
here is a detail of the final treatment.
here is a detail of the final treatment.
shawnalanpeters
03-23-2004, 07:01 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/2695/2695_1080068479_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/2695/2695_1080068479_large.jpg)
here is the final treatment
here is the final treatment
vadim_cgi
03-23-2004, 07:39 PM
Alan, it's SUPERB!!!!
I haven't yet seen anything better in here than your artwork.
It's RULES seriously, I think you got daaamn good chance to get Grand Prize! Goodluck! :thumbsup:
I haven't yet seen anything better in here than your artwork.
It's RULES seriously, I think you got daaamn good chance to get Grand Prize! Goodluck! :thumbsup:
shawnalanpeters
03-23-2004, 09:01 PM
Originally posted by vadim_cgi
Alan, it's SUPERB!!!!
I haven't yet seen anything better in here than your artwork.
It's RULES seriously, I think you got daaamn good chance to get Grand Prize! Goodluck! :thumbsup:
Thank you.
Alan, it's SUPERB!!!!
I haven't yet seen anything better in here than your artwork.
It's RULES seriously, I think you got daaamn good chance to get Grand Prize! Goodluck! :thumbsup:
Thank you.
gmask
03-23-2004, 09:07 PM
For anyone interested here the thread for this image from cgchannel
http://www.cgchannel.com/gallery/viewimage.jsp?imgID=2334
http://www.cgchannel.com/gallery/viewimage.jsp?imgID=2334
Woole
03-23-2004, 11:08 PM
Thats really awesome!
adrianis
03-24-2004, 12:44 AM
No doubt, one of the best!
I can see machine, but the flesh?:bounce:
Good luck!:D
I can see machine, but the flesh?:bounce:
Good luck!:D
Tommy Lee
03-24-2004, 05:56 AM
Same crit here...No flesh!
Don't get me wrong, it's a beautyfull piece, but I think u will get in conflict with the challengerules.
When I see your progress, I think u have no problems to shake another concept out of your sleeve...
Cheerz:beer:
Tommy Lee
Don't get me wrong, it's a beautyfull piece, but I think u will get in conflict with the challengerules.
When I see your progress, I think u have no problems to shake another concept out of your sleeve...
Cheerz:beer:
Tommy Lee
basse
03-24-2004, 11:14 AM
take a look at the eyes.
I think there is some human inside.
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I think there is some human inside.
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olidale
03-25-2004, 11:28 AM
i love it.
it looks so solid, and the different textures are so difined.
it looks so solid, and the different textures are so difined.
shawnalanpeters
03-25-2004, 03:31 PM
Originally posted by olidale
i love it.
it looks so solid, and the different textures are so difined.
thank you. That was one of the goals I had for this painting...I wanted her body to feel like it was coated in rubber and the shielding to feel like white plastic with a heavy clearcoat.
i love it.
it looks so solid, and the different textures are so difined.
thank you. That was one of the goals I had for this painting...I wanted her body to feel like it was coated in rubber and the shielding to feel like white plastic with a heavy clearcoat.
JTD
03-26-2004, 04:33 PM
I think that this is actually a Perfect Example of what they’re looking for. Just look at the picture in the Machineflesh promo. It’s very similar to your submission. And your submission is beautiful!
shawnalanpeters
03-26-2004, 05:50 PM
Originally posted by JTD
I think that this is actually a Perfect Example of what they’re looking for. Just look at the picture in the Machineflesh promo. It’s very similar to your submission. And your submission is beautiful!
JTD, thanks a lot... commments like yours ..keep me working...
you rock!
I think that this is actually a Perfect Example of what they’re looking for. Just look at the picture in the Machineflesh promo. It’s very similar to your submission. And your submission is beautiful!
JTD, thanks a lot... commments like yours ..keep me working...
you rock!
Dynasthai
03-26-2004, 11:38 PM
i like the peice and I look forward to your forthcoming entry for the competition. The one complaint I have with this piece is that it seems to be lacking something, It feels sort of bland. It might be the lack of background, but im not sure. Any way great work. :)
ymbsnakeeye
03-27-2004, 04:46 AM
I had to post due to the high amount of people who didnt go from page 1-the end.You did real good on the girl, and I could see the human side to her, shoot, just her eyes show you that. Anyways man, theres alot of people here who do there homework on everyone. They are just looking for someone to break the rules. You got a good chance to take it man, just dont listen to all the negative blunder. Aiite good luck, hahaha this is the first time i ever posted in this site. I been on here a year, maybe I need to actually do something myself, allright later.
Tommy Lee
03-27-2004, 09:24 AM
Originally posted by ymbsnakeeye
I had to post due to the high amount of people who didnt go from page 1-the end.You did real good on the girl, and I could see the human side to her, shoot, just her eyes show you that. Anyways man, theres alot of people here who do there homework on everyone. They are just looking for someone to break the rules. You got a good chance to take it man, just dont listen to all the negative blunder. Aiite good luck, hahaha this is the first time i ever posted in this site. I been on here a year, maybe I need to actually do something myself, allright later.
If this is your first post, then u should have take another year to think what u are saying. There is no negative blunder. It's a beautyful piece, no doubt, but this image is not qualified for the challenge because it was done befor the challenge starts.
Its not really a competition here. Everybody wants to help everybody to reach the best they can do. Its not about the prizes(Of corse it's a bonus:)), its about the art and community, about exchange...
@shawnalanpeters: Sorry to waste space in your thread, but I had to say that:beer:
I can't wait for your entry,... u are truely a master of painting.
Cheerz]
Tommy Lee
I had to post due to the high amount of people who didnt go from page 1-the end.You did real good on the girl, and I could see the human side to her, shoot, just her eyes show you that. Anyways man, theres alot of people here who do there homework on everyone. They are just looking for someone to break the rules. You got a good chance to take it man, just dont listen to all the negative blunder. Aiite good luck, hahaha this is the first time i ever posted in this site. I been on here a year, maybe I need to actually do something myself, allright later.
If this is your first post, then u should have take another year to think what u are saying. There is no negative blunder. It's a beautyful piece, no doubt, but this image is not qualified for the challenge because it was done befor the challenge starts.
Its not really a competition here. Everybody wants to help everybody to reach the best they can do. Its not about the prizes(Of corse it's a bonus:)), its about the art and community, about exchange...
@shawnalanpeters: Sorry to waste space in your thread, but I had to say that:beer:
I can't wait for your entry,... u are truely a master of painting.
Cheerz]
Tommy Lee
Grorum
03-28-2004, 11:46 AM
Wonderful.
ymbsnakeeye
03-28-2004, 03:44 PM
me take another year.............allright man, I wasnt talking to you, I guess you never heard of posotive reinforcement, its exactly my point. The first time I even write something on here I get criticized. Maybe you need to try to understand what I was trying to say. Look this aint even about our disagreement. I knew he couldnt qualify with that piece, I was just trying to hype him up for his next piece. Holly shoot man, you need to lighten up, I was talking to him and already OTHER people are taking offense. Whatever, its over ive moved on, good luck on your next piece.
Peace Out
Peace Out
Tommy Lee
03-29-2004, 05:37 AM
Originally posted by ymbsnakeeye
me take another year.............allright man, I wasnt talking to you, I guess you never heard of posotive reinforcement, its exactly my point. The first time I even write something on here I get criticized. Maybe you need to try to understand what I was trying to say. Look this aint even about our disagreement. I knew he couldnt qualify with that piece, I was just trying to hype him up for his next piece. Holly shoot man, you need to lighten up, I was talking to him and already OTHER people are taking offense. Whatever, its over ive moved on, good luck on your next piece.
Peace Out
:wavey: :wavey: :wavey:
me take another year.............allright man, I wasnt talking to you, I guess you never heard of posotive reinforcement, its exactly my point. The first time I even write something on here I get criticized. Maybe you need to try to understand what I was trying to say. Look this aint even about our disagreement. I knew he couldnt qualify with that piece, I was just trying to hype him up for his next piece. Holly shoot man, you need to lighten up, I was talking to him and already OTHER people are taking offense. Whatever, its over ive moved on, good luck on your next piece.
Peace Out
:wavey: :wavey: :wavey:
ymbsnakeeye
03-29-2004, 09:28 PM
PUAHAHAHA, trying to make me eat my words or something??? Im this close to joining this competition and losing just to get you off my back. Pay no attention to this petty arguement shawn, keep workin.
Kirt
03-30-2004, 04:32 AM
I said it once, I'll say it again ...
This entry is not qualified to be a part of the Machineflesh challenge. Those who didn't see that need to chill out. It's taken care of. Shawn has agreed that this is just a warm-up or idea that he felt suited the challenge and that he is going to do another for this challenge.
Don't give me a reason to have this thread shut down because some of you can't be bothered to read the thread.
Sorry Shawn, please start on your new entry so we can continue on with your WIP thread.
This entry is not qualified to be a part of the Machineflesh challenge. Those who didn't see that need to chill out. It's taken care of. Shawn has agreed that this is just a warm-up or idea that he felt suited the challenge and that he is going to do another for this challenge.
Don't give me a reason to have this thread shut down because some of you can't be bothered to read the thread.
Sorry Shawn, please start on your new entry so we can continue on with your WIP thread.
Rameez
03-30-2004, 05:20 AM
Seams to be a good work coming out...
Nice dude ..keep going.:thumbsup:
Nice dude ..keep going.:thumbsup:
Rameez
03-30-2004, 05:24 AM
The moment i put a reply and came back..
sorry i found ur thread closed...!!
sorry i found ur thread closed...!!
shawnalanpeters
03-30-2004, 03:27 PM
has this thread been closed?
micrphone check 1-2?
micrphone check 1-2?
shawnalanpeters
03-30-2004, 03:30 PM
Ok...I guess not...
fellow, members. regardless of this piece not being in the competition...and doing another one...I would still appreciate some feedback on how to make it better.
thanks...
fellow, members. regardless of this piece not being in the competition...and doing another one...I would still appreciate some feedback on how to make it better.
thanks...
Phantom__2
03-30-2004, 04:54 PM
Make it better, lol you so funny. Your work is awesome. Did you say you do not have a wacom? I know you intended on making is smooth but how did you slowly lighten and darken the sections so perfectly? Did you use a brush? Fills with opacity and gradients? I have no idea. I have a wacom and am a total amateur. I am getting better but you work is very inspiring. If I were to make one suggestion it would be a background to the image. A background helps place your character in some reality instead of just a character you would have an art piece. Well that’s my 2 bits. I look forward to seeing more of what you have to offer.
gmask
03-30-2004, 05:14 PM
Originally posted by shawnalanpeters
Ok...I guess not...
fellow, members. regardless of this piece not being in the competition...and doing another one...I would still appreciate some feedback on how to make it better.
thanks...
How about moving this thread to the wip or focused critique section ?
Ok...I guess not...
fellow, members. regardless of this piece not being in the competition...and doing another one...I would still appreciate some feedback on how to make it better.
thanks...
How about moving this thread to the wip or focused critique section ?
shawnalanpeters
03-30-2004, 05:22 PM
Originally posted by gmask
How about moving this thread to the wip or focused critique section ?
I am not familiar with it...how do I it ..and where is it?
How about moving this thread to the wip or focused critique section ?
I am not familiar with it...how do I it ..and where is it?
Phantom__2
03-30-2004, 05:24 PM
Originally posted by gmask
How about moving this thread to the wip or focused critique section ?
Gmask, maybe because it started with him entering the machineflesh challenge. Come on look at the other entries only about half meet the requirement for the competition and a lot of them have changed their idea entirely from concept to concept. This is a workup or practice for the challenge and he wants feedback from people in the challenge. Let it go folks.
How about moving this thread to the wip or focused critique section ?
Gmask, maybe because it started with him entering the machineflesh challenge. Come on look at the other entries only about half meet the requirement for the competition and a lot of them have changed their idea entirely from concept to concept. This is a workup or practice for the challenge and he wants feedback from people in the challenge. Let it go folks.
gmask
03-30-2004, 05:58 PM
Originally posted by shawnalanpeters
I am not familiar with it...how do I it ..and where is it?
CGtalk.com has many forums.. if you wish to continue to refine this work then start a thread in the WIP or focused critique section. I think you might get better feedback if you did.
Wip
http://www.cgtalk.com/forumdisplay.php?s=&forumid=31
Focused Critique
http://www.cgtalk.com/forumdisplay.php?s=&forumid=102
Evocative
http://www.cgtalk.com/forumdisplay.php?s=&forumid=119
Click on start new thread in the upper right area and post links to your image sof the various stages of production.
I am not familiar with it...how do I it ..and where is it?
CGtalk.com has many forums.. if you wish to continue to refine this work then start a thread in the WIP or focused critique section. I think you might get better feedback if you did.
Wip
http://www.cgtalk.com/forumdisplay.php?s=&forumid=31
Focused Critique
http://www.cgtalk.com/forumdisplay.php?s=&forumid=102
Evocative
http://www.cgtalk.com/forumdisplay.php?s=&forumid=119
Click on start new thread in the upper right area and post links to your image sof the various stages of production.
gmask
03-30-2004, 06:18 PM
Originally posted by Phantom__2
Gmask, maybe because it started with him entering the machineflesh challenge. Come on look at the other entries only about half meet the requirement for the competition and a lot of them have changed their idea entirely from concept to concept. This is a workup or practice for the challenge and he wants feedback from people in the challenge. Let it go folks.
I think it is confusing to enter a finished piece and then ask for feedback on it instead of exploring some new ideas.
As for the other entries, people are getting feedback on wether or not their ideas are going in the right direction or at least they should be.. I can only hope that if someone has barked up the wrong tree that they will get some advice on what they need to do.
This piece was not a workup or practice for the competition.
At any rate sexy cyborgs are not particularily original or imo what the compeition is about but given Shawn's technical abilities he will get high marks anyway.
If that's the route you wanna go then here's my suggestion. It's the year 3000 and the atmosphere on earth has collapsed. As a result the planet is all but un-inhabitable unless you have extensive technological enhancements including a complete skin covering. To add to this concept it would be great to show the character sitting on the porch of a dwelling where the horizon is scorched earth and sitting next to the character is a house cat with similair coverings.
or you could use the same explaination above but show the operation .. which need only be to show various tools poking into frame applying the skin etc.
There still needs to be a human element showing through more so than just saying the eyes look human. I think one wayu to do that is by showing the ehanced person in their human like environment. Robots don't really need possessions so the contrast of an enhanced person in their normal environment has a certain irony that makes the point.
At any rate in order to come up with new ideas you need to sketch them out rather than take a finished work and ask how can it be better.. technically I don't think the above piece could be improved upon much nor does it need to but in either case this is the wrong context to do it in.
Gmask, maybe because it started with him entering the machineflesh challenge. Come on look at the other entries only about half meet the requirement for the competition and a lot of them have changed their idea entirely from concept to concept. This is a workup or practice for the challenge and he wants feedback from people in the challenge. Let it go folks.
I think it is confusing to enter a finished piece and then ask for feedback on it instead of exploring some new ideas.
As for the other entries, people are getting feedback on wether or not their ideas are going in the right direction or at least they should be.. I can only hope that if someone has barked up the wrong tree that they will get some advice on what they need to do.
This piece was not a workup or practice for the competition.
At any rate sexy cyborgs are not particularily original or imo what the compeition is about but given Shawn's technical abilities he will get high marks anyway.
If that's the route you wanna go then here's my suggestion. It's the year 3000 and the atmosphere on earth has collapsed. As a result the planet is all but un-inhabitable unless you have extensive technological enhancements including a complete skin covering. To add to this concept it would be great to show the character sitting on the porch of a dwelling where the horizon is scorched earth and sitting next to the character is a house cat with similair coverings.
or you could use the same explaination above but show the operation .. which need only be to show various tools poking into frame applying the skin etc.
There still needs to be a human element showing through more so than just saying the eyes look human. I think one wayu to do that is by showing the ehanced person in their human like environment. Robots don't really need possessions so the contrast of an enhanced person in their normal environment has a certain irony that makes the point.
At any rate in order to come up with new ideas you need to sketch them out rather than take a finished work and ask how can it be better.. technically I don't think the above piece could be improved upon much nor does it need to but in either case this is the wrong context to do it in.
Phantom__2
03-30-2004, 06:41 PM
I see your point Gmask. With a descriptive background he could be set. Who knows though? One thing worth mentioning is during your comments Gmask you mentioned it needs to have a human element shown. I am not sure if that was specifically directed to this piece or not, but so as to not confuse others this competition is not confined to be human based. You can use any life form. I think I have seen way too may human/cyborgs in the competition so far. Also there are a lot of machines that look like the have had a small skin graph placed on them and that’s it. I hope to see more life forms with interesting mechanical additions vs. machines with a little life on them in the competition.
Phantom__2
03-30-2004, 06:53 PM
Oh and by the way Gmask I thankyou for your constructive advise. I have been planning on entering the compotition for some time but have too may ideas and I think getting some feedback is exacly what I need. Kudos for Gmask.
gmask
03-30-2004, 06:57 PM
Earlier when Shawn gave the explaination of that the peice was .. it sounded like a machine with some human organs which does not fit the competition.
If he coudl create an animal with a simialir look that would be great.. above I suggest giving the enhanced person an enhanced pet.. makes sense doesn't it? However given the fully covered look you still run the risk of looking like a robot as much as one can guess that it's actually a cyborg.
Also with the above idea I gave "how does one know that the skin covering isn't just clothing"?
In this regards perhaps the explaination will "cover" it... In Dune.. the desert dwellers wear a bodysuit that recycles the expired moisture by collecting it in it's internal pockets. In this future skin perhaps the process has been further refined.
If he coudl create an animal with a simialir look that would be great.. above I suggest giving the enhanced person an enhanced pet.. makes sense doesn't it? However given the fully covered look you still run the risk of looking like a robot as much as one can guess that it's actually a cyborg.
Also with the above idea I gave "how does one know that the skin covering isn't just clothing"?
In this regards perhaps the explaination will "cover" it... In Dune.. the desert dwellers wear a bodysuit that recycles the expired moisture by collecting it in it's internal pockets. In this future skin perhaps the process has been further refined.
contempogaleria
03-30-2004, 08:50 PM
very nice man i relly like the style and the pose everything looks great!.
Kguevara
Kguevara
shaffer
03-31-2004, 08:08 PM
I have been reading over some comments....and sorry to rain on everyone's parade, but as far as originality goes, everything has been done before over and over again.....that's not the point....the important thing is how well its been done! And as far as I can see, Shawn has executed his illustation will seemless perfection....good work...I'm excited to see your next piece!
Oh yea...and before I go....advice to everyone...before you make negitive comments on someone's work...take a look at your own work, if you even have any.....and realize that if your work is not up to the caliber of the work your commenting on....why are you even putting your two cents in, in the first place....
Oh yea...and before I go....advice to everyone...before you make negitive comments on someone's work...take a look at your own work, if you even have any.....and realize that if your work is not up to the caliber of the work your commenting on....why are you even putting your two cents in, in the first place....
gmask
04-01-2004, 06:49 AM
Yeah everything has been done :rolleyes: done to death :scream:
SideAche
04-01-2004, 08:16 AM
After Baum's Wizard of Oz, everything has been done. No wait, after Tolkien, everythings been done, No wait after C.S. Lewis, wait - after Lucas's Star Wars, everything has been. No wait, after the Matrix everything is now done. Shoot, I can't read any more books or see any more movies because everything has been done. How about the chariot, or the wagon, or the car or the plane. Sorry for the sarcasm, but after working in the creative field for quite a while, I am amazed to see so many fresh new ideas over the years. If everything has been done or if the only thing is to do it better, why bother. This thread seems to be a bit of a lightning rod. I look forward to seeing what Shawn comes up with next. He has good chops technically.
shawnalanpeters
04-01-2004, 03:58 PM
Originally posted by SideAche
After Baum's Wizard of Oz, everything has been done. No wait, after Tolkien, everythings been done, No wait after C.S. Lewis, wait - after Lucas's Star Wars, everything has been. No wait, after the Matrix everything is now done. Shoot, I can't read any more books or see any more movies because everything has been done. How about the chariot, or the wagon, or the car or the plane. Sorry for the sarcasm, but after working in the creative field for quite a while, I am amazed to see so many fresh new ideas over the years. If everything has been done or if the only thing is to do it better, why bother. This thread seems to be a bit of a lightning rod. I look forward to seeing what Shawn comes up with next. He has good chops technically.
I have to agree...even though there is some truth to what shaffer was saying... as our own lives and the technology we use progress and our ideas and inspirations change...we are constantly influencing each others ideas... often even inspiring the scientists in this world to build some of the stuff we think up.
I am a firm believer that if you have an idea...it has been done, or is being worked on at the same time... we are all influenced by the same things.. ex. pop culture. That doesn't keep me from having fun, strapping a mechincal gun to the side of someones body... Maybe the way I do it is cool enough to inspire someone else...and eventualy get to something new.
Regardless, I draw because it's fun... if something orginal happens...cool...if not I am still having fun making images. I don't strive to be original...I am chasing the next line on the page.
sometimes "original" happens. :beer:
After Baum's Wizard of Oz, everything has been done. No wait, after Tolkien, everythings been done, No wait after C.S. Lewis, wait - after Lucas's Star Wars, everything has been. No wait, after the Matrix everything is now done. Shoot, I can't read any more books or see any more movies because everything has been done. How about the chariot, or the wagon, or the car or the plane. Sorry for the sarcasm, but after working in the creative field for quite a while, I am amazed to see so many fresh new ideas over the years. If everything has been done or if the only thing is to do it better, why bother. This thread seems to be a bit of a lightning rod. I look forward to seeing what Shawn comes up with next. He has good chops technically.
I have to agree...even though there is some truth to what shaffer was saying... as our own lives and the technology we use progress and our ideas and inspirations change...we are constantly influencing each others ideas... often even inspiring the scientists in this world to build some of the stuff we think up.
I am a firm believer that if you have an idea...it has been done, or is being worked on at the same time... we are all influenced by the same things.. ex. pop culture. That doesn't keep me from having fun, strapping a mechincal gun to the side of someones body... Maybe the way I do it is cool enough to inspire someone else...and eventualy get to something new.
Regardless, I draw because it's fun... if something orginal happens...cool...if not I am still having fun making images. I don't strive to be original...I am chasing the next line on the page.
sometimes "original" happens. :beer:
gmask
04-01-2004, 05:35 PM
Here's a list of 2d entries that I think are using their imagination , talent and taking the guidelines of the competition to heart.
Maybe there is something in their that you could play off of with your style.
http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?threadid=132515
http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?threadid=130122
http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?threadid=134116
http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?threadid=131511
http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?threadid=133076
http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?threadid=130523
http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?threadid=133695
http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?threadid=132144
http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?threadid=134157
http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?threadid=134237
http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?threadid=133765
http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?threadid=134171
http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?threadid=131355
http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?threadid=132037
http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?threadid=132070
http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?threadid=130156
http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?threadid=131207
http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?threadid=133918
http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?threadid=130132
http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?threadid=130740
http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?threadid=131981
http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?threadid=130141
http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?threadid=130901
http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?threadid=131669
http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?threadid=130401
http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?threadid=133051
http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?threadid=133028
Maybe there is something in their that you could play off of with your style.
http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?threadid=132515
http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?threadid=130122
http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?threadid=134116
http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?threadid=131511
http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?threadid=133076
http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?threadid=130523
http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?threadid=133695
http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?threadid=132144
http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?threadid=134157
http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?threadid=134237
http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?threadid=133765
http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?threadid=134171
http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?threadid=131355
http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?threadid=132037
http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?threadid=132070
http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?threadid=130156
http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?threadid=131207
http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?threadid=133918
http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?threadid=130132
http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?threadid=130740
http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?threadid=131981
http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?threadid=130141
http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?threadid=130901
http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?threadid=131669
http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?threadid=130401
http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?threadid=133051
http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?threadid=133028
joerhoney
04-01-2004, 07:14 PM
Ok. I just read this entire thread (I accidently subscribed to it so I figured I might as well now) and I notice a lot of people saying, basically, "don't bag on Shawn", "Before you bag on Shawn look at your own work, does it even compare?", "Shawn's peice is great. What are you complaining about?", "Give Shawn a break." Well that's all true. But the funny thing is that Nobody is saying anything bad about his peice and if they do it's intended to be constructive criticism like "If you add a background you'll be all set," and everyone almost always ends by saying "Great work" or "I look forward to seeing your next peice." Everyone except for one person in peticular who is obviousely the person who turned this thread into an ongoing, email account overloading, Jerry Springer show. And just because I speak the truth and I don't want anyone to get confused as to who I'm talking about I gonna mention his name... gmask... and I don't care if my 2D entry link was included in his last posting on this thread as "people who are taking this mechineflesh challenge to heart", because his opinion doesn't matter much to me and I don't think it matters much to anyone else in this thread either at this point. I'm sure Shawn is taking this challenge to heart just as much as anyone else and had his entry been qualified to be in the contest it would have gotten hundreds of votes despite whether there's "no flesh". I'm backing Shawn up all the way and it appears as though everyone else is too. Gmask, I'm sorry, but drop it.
gmask
04-01-2004, 07:28 PM
Originally posted by joerhoney
Gmask, I'm sorry, but drop it.
It's funny that you should come along and tell me to drop it when you just picked it up.. sheesh.. you drop it. :p
Shawn asked for ideas.. I have given them.. then I get crits on giving crits.. crit this :wip:
Gmask, I'm sorry, but drop it.
It's funny that you should come along and tell me to drop it when you just picked it up.. sheesh.. you drop it. :p
Shawn asked for ideas.. I have given them.. then I get crits on giving crits.. crit this :wip:
shawnalanpeters
04-01-2004, 08:22 PM
WOW!
joerhoney
04-01-2004, 08:23 PM
Originally posted by gmask
It's funny that you should come along and tell me to drop it when you just picked it up.. sheesh.. you drop it. :p
Shawn asked for ideas.. I have given them.. then I get crits on giving crits.. crit this :wip:
I rest my case. :rolleyes:
:D Now Shawn, where did you come up with all that verbage on the story-line for this character? That was awsome! I'm sold.
And I got to say, with your skills in the combination of art mediums you use, the techniques you have and the way you can actually show how something is done, you could be one hell of an art teacher! I think I speak for all of us (maybe even gmask) when I say your work is very impressive and if this thread is ending anytime soon (I assume we all want it to) I think it should end on that note.
It's funny that you should come along and tell me to drop it when you just picked it up.. sheesh.. you drop it. :p
Shawn asked for ideas.. I have given them.. then I get crits on giving crits.. crit this :wip:
I rest my case. :rolleyes:
:D Now Shawn, where did you come up with all that verbage on the story-line for this character? That was awsome! I'm sold.
And I got to say, with your skills in the combination of art mediums you use, the techniques you have and the way you can actually show how something is done, you could be one hell of an art teacher! I think I speak for all of us (maybe even gmask) when I say your work is very impressive and if this thread is ending anytime soon (I assume we all want it to) I think it should end on that note.
gmask
04-01-2004, 08:39 PM
Originally posted by joerhoney
I rest my case. :rolleyes:
Case of what.. beer? :rolleyes:
So shawn have you started anything new?
I rest my case. :rolleyes:
Case of what.. beer? :rolleyes:
So shawn have you started anything new?
SideAche
04-01-2004, 10:02 PM
AND IN THIS CORNER, IN THE BLUE TRUNKS!
Sorry guys, that was my attempt at humor
Sorry guys, that was my attempt at humor
gmask
04-01-2004, 10:11 PM
Originally posted by SideAche
AND IN THIS CORNER, IN THE BLUE TRUNKS!
Sorry guys, that was my attempt at humor
Maybe some cyber babes oil wresting would be titillating :p Just kidding..
AND IN THIS CORNER, IN THE BLUE TRUNKS!
Sorry guys, that was my attempt at humor
Maybe some cyber babes oil wresting would be titillating :p Just kidding..
flyingP
04-01-2004, 10:26 PM
Originally posted by gmask
Maybe some cyber babes oil wresting would be titillating :p Just kidding..
what? you mean nobody's come up with "that" concept yet?
Maybe some cyber babes oil wresting would be titillating :p Just kidding..
what? you mean nobody's come up with "that" concept yet?
gmask
04-01-2004, 10:34 PM
Originally posted by flyingP
what? you mean nobody's come up with "that" concept yet?
Well that Bjork video is sort off like that minus the oil ..:blush:
what? you mean nobody's come up with "that" concept yet?
Well that Bjork video is sort off like that minus the oil ..:blush:
flyingP
04-01-2004, 10:39 PM
Originally posted by gmask
Well that Bjork video is sort off like that minus the oil ..:blush:
Oooooh yes... guess drool doesn't count huh? :drool:
Well that Bjork video is sort off like that minus the oil ..:blush:
Oooooh yes... guess drool doesn't count huh? :drool:
shawnalanpeters
04-01-2004, 10:49 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/2695/2695_1080859740_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/2695/2695_1080859740_large.jpg)
this is the first of some of my ideas.
I was going down the road of fighters.
Gladiators of sort... as they break bones or loose parts they can have machinery in place of tissue, apendages, etc. I was thinking electromagnetic phantom arms... with extra large? heavy hands added to this female fighter. I want to explore other appendages and possible multiple sets of hands or weapons. It may be useful to have a normal sized set of hands...in order to utilize oponents weapons. I also want to explore adding weapons systems to the existing mechanical hands...
this is the first of some of my ideas.
I was going down the road of fighters.
Gladiators of sort... as they break bones or loose parts they can have machinery in place of tissue, apendages, etc. I was thinking electromagnetic phantom arms... with extra large? heavy hands added to this female fighter. I want to explore other appendages and possible multiple sets of hands or weapons. It may be useful to have a normal sized set of hands...in order to utilize oponents weapons. I also want to explore adding weapons systems to the existing mechanical hands...
joerhoney
04-01-2004, 11:14 PM
That's AWSOME! Definitely an original concept.:buttrock:
shawnalanpeters
04-01-2004, 11:23 PM
Originally posted by joerhoney
That's AWSOME! Definitely an original concept.:buttrock:
...great...that's a good start!
I should have some deatil work to show in the next couple of days.
That's AWSOME! Definitely an original concept.:buttrock:
...great...that's a good start!
I should have some deatil work to show in the next couple of days.
Tommy Lee
04-02-2004, 05:24 AM
Originally posted by joerhoney
That's AWSOME! Definitely an original concept.:buttrock:
Have to double this... awsome!!!!!:thumbsup:
Cheerz:beer:
Tommy Lee
That's AWSOME! Definitely an original concept.:buttrock:
Have to double this... awsome!!!!!:thumbsup:
Cheerz:beer:
Tommy Lee
gmask
04-02-2004, 06:27 AM
Yah! :thumbsup: :beer:
Locusta
04-02-2004, 08:42 AM
WOW!! I love her!!
Great concept and a really original idea. Now as I know the amazing quality of your color work, I can´t wait to see this lady finished.
Great concept and a really original idea. Now as I know the amazing quality of your color work, I can´t wait to see this lady finished.
shawnalanpeters
04-02-2004, 02:40 PM
cool...I am glad you guys like it... anyone have some ideas about..what other kinds of appendages they would like to see?
I could reallly use some help... the more I explore...the better my chances are at getting something unique.
I could reallly use some help... the more I explore...the better my chances are at getting something unique.
joerhoney
04-02-2004, 05:45 PM
The concept so far is unique enough. I don't think you really need to do anything else to it. I don't know, maybe she could stand in front of her arsinal of different hands. But if you think about it, even if all she has is two pairs of hands (one big and one regular sized) her abilities are practicly limitless. She could be like stretch arm strong because her arm could fly out and reach just about anything. She could through her arm up to the ledge of a building and pull herself up. She wouldn't really need gun hands because she could just reach out and take her opponents guns as long as the hands are well armored.
shawnalanpeters
04-02-2004, 05:50 PM
The more and more I think about this characters abilities..
makes want to see it animated..
makes want to see it animated..
shawnalanpeters
04-02-2004, 05:52 PM
one of the weaknesses she would have ...is if her hands get to far away... she would be vulnerable... I am thinking of gearing her up with some type of armour.
gmask
04-02-2004, 06:22 PM
Originally posted by shawnalanpeters
The more and more I think about this characters abilities..
makes want to see it animated..
The final pose should definately be an action pose.. Maybe you coudl imply the motion of the fist by having multiple copies of them flying around pummeling the opposition.
The more and more I think about this characters abilities..
makes want to see it animated..
The final pose should definately be an action pose.. Maybe you coudl imply the motion of the fist by having multiple copies of them flying around pummeling the opposition.
SideAche
04-02-2004, 06:42 PM
Excellent, If you view her as an animated character, I would definatley put her in a pose that suggests some of her personallity traits. The gesture can tell a lot. Is she a total buttkicker, Is she a sexy buttkicker, Does she appear shy at first and then kicks butt. Maybe she doesn't kick butt at all, maybe she steps on peoples eyesbrows (humor). I'm probably stating something you allready know. Anyway, great idea I look forward to more.
crazybread
04-03-2004, 06:09 PM
ahey shawn, cool new character. :thumbsup:
.sorry ro restart a topic that has been left a page or so back ago but I just have to say something to you Shawn: sometimes people will gain up on you because they feel that they have uncovered some great detail with in the mistery of a good work, weather it be a magazine photo for reference or a similar idea (like in my case). They automaticaly make a stink about it and try to bring you down for whatever reasons. even after you explain yourself and want to get back on to the straight road again. The last competition I entered I had an individual do that to me, and you should see how quickly a few people started to gang up on me with her. Its tough doing art and putting something descent together, something one has put his or her entire soul in and then have it attacked by critics. anyways here is a link take aa look for yourself how fast an attack occured on my work and was joined by few others.
I know you could have not entered with the beautifull piece you already done and I new someone was gonna say something thats why I stayed out of it. It was not my business to interfer, but its good that it has been straighten out and you're back on track creating something new. Anyways if you want take a look at this link from my alienware challenge and how within a blink of an eye someone tries to shut you down. funny, but after that I wondered for sometime weather I should enter another contest or just say screw it. I didn't let it get to me and so I'm here again.
http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=97026&perpage=15&pagenumber=10
keep up the good work shawn! your technique is awsome! Good luck!
.sorry ro restart a topic that has been left a page or so back ago but I just have to say something to you Shawn: sometimes people will gain up on you because they feel that they have uncovered some great detail with in the mistery of a good work, weather it be a magazine photo for reference or a similar idea (like in my case). They automaticaly make a stink about it and try to bring you down for whatever reasons. even after you explain yourself and want to get back on to the straight road again. The last competition I entered I had an individual do that to me, and you should see how quickly a few people started to gang up on me with her. Its tough doing art and putting something descent together, something one has put his or her entire soul in and then have it attacked by critics. anyways here is a link take aa look for yourself how fast an attack occured on my work and was joined by few others.
I know you could have not entered with the beautifull piece you already done and I new someone was gonna say something thats why I stayed out of it. It was not my business to interfer, but its good that it has been straighten out and you're back on track creating something new. Anyways if you want take a look at this link from my alienware challenge and how within a blink of an eye someone tries to shut you down. funny, but after that I wondered for sometime weather I should enter another contest or just say screw it. I didn't let it get to me and so I'm here again.
http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=97026&perpage=15&pagenumber=10
keep up the good work shawn! your technique is awsome! Good luck!
flyingP
04-03-2004, 06:25 PM
:hmm:
Hey c'mon guys this is a bit unfair, no one was picking on Shawn (BTW Shawn nice to see you have updated with a new image) Gmask and others are just trying to keep things fair and no offence Shawn but under the conditions this was the wrong place for that first image regardless of how good this was. Guys READ THE CONTEST RULES Shawn's talent is not at issue here. Now please leave it at that !!!!!!
Hey c'mon guys this is a bit unfair, no one was picking on Shawn (BTW Shawn nice to see you have updated with a new image) Gmask and others are just trying to keep things fair and no offence Shawn but under the conditions this was the wrong place for that first image regardless of how good this was. Guys READ THE CONTEST RULES Shawn's talent is not at issue here. Now please leave it at that !!!!!!
Squibbit
04-03-2004, 06:58 PM
took a look at that thread from the previous contest
crazybread and I gotta say :
sometimes in different places and different times two people
come up with a similar idea and some people just can't
take it
I once had a cool idea and had just started to sketch it.
then i took a break from the sketching , passed by the tv and
saw the very same idea with way more similarity than in
your case in a music video .
arrg
actually that wasn't a singular case and happens way
too often to my liking
crazybread and I gotta say :
sometimes in different places and different times two people
come up with a similar idea and some people just can't
take it
I once had a cool idea and had just started to sketch it.
then i took a break from the sketching , passed by the tv and
saw the very same idea with way more similarity than in
your case in a music video .
arrg
actually that wasn't a singular case and happens way
too often to my liking
JamesMK
04-03-2004, 07:15 PM
Come on guys.... Just listen to the flying pig above and silently move along, focusing on the new concept instead.
The issue was merely about entering a previously finished piece, nothing else. All ye take a deep breath and keep any further discussions about unrelated things to yourself.
Aye.
Fling!
The issue was merely about entering a previously finished piece, nothing else. All ye take a deep breath and keep any further discussions about unrelated things to yourself.
Aye.
Fling!
AirbORn
04-03-2004, 07:48 PM
Shawn: First I'd like to say, great drawings, I like the most recent one you developed. Can't wait too see more.
Crazybread: Even though this isn't your thread :P I also read your alienware thread and I am totaly on your side, and the perfect statement that should have been said in that thread was "Great minds think alike". I voted for your Alienware entry without thinking twice. :thumbsup:
I am done, over and out!
Crazybread: Even though this isn't your thread :P I also read your alienware thread and I am totaly on your side, and the perfect statement that should have been said in that thread was "Great minds think alike". I voted for your Alienware entry without thinking twice. :thumbsup:
I am done, over and out!
crazybread
04-03-2004, 10:06 PM
YES yes, nevermind nevermind,
flyinP I wasn't atacking people! I don't do that!
I just wanyed to cheer Shawn up a bit perhaps he wasn't feeling too good about it and so letting him know that there will always be critics out there and that thats ok, and I'm implying to be strong and and have fun.
anyways I was also wondering shawn if your new character is gonna be in a different pose or if you're planning to illustrate her in rest pose, you know just as a design???
flyinP I wasn't atacking people! I don't do that!
I just wanyed to cheer Shawn up a bit perhaps he wasn't feeling too good about it and so letting him know that there will always be critics out there and that thats ok, and I'm implying to be strong and and have fun.
anyways I was also wondering shawn if your new character is gonna be in a different pose or if you're planning to illustrate her in rest pose, you know just as a design???
santiago
04-04-2004, 08:28 AM
This is actually much more interesting than the first concept. Seems like what originally appeared to be warning just turned into a chance for you to do something even better.
Hope to see the process of your first concept in another thread though, I really liked it.
Hope to see the process of your first concept in another thread though, I really liked it.
KrotArt
04-04-2004, 08:07 PM
wow!!! nice sketch :)
:thumbsup:
:thumbsup:
mage111
04-15-2004, 09:48 AM
your latest concept reminds me alot of Quake3 Arena.
But i'll have to wait for the details to be fashioned to say anytthing else.
GL in the comp
But i'll have to wait for the details to be fashioned to say anytthing else.
GL in the comp
bonestudio
04-15-2004, 11:02 AM
Your last idea is very interesting !! It could be an awesowe superhero :)
stenarts
04-15-2004, 12:05 PM
Wonderful work, really love her, she looks perfect in shape, he he he. No really its fine art and really shows that you should get a award for that great work :D
I enjoy the magic of your work, it keeps me enchanted and really motivate to keep going with my own art.
Thanks for that magic and please show us more in the future.
STEN :D
I enjoy the magic of your work, it keeps me enchanted and really motivate to keep going with my own art.
Thanks for that magic and please show us more in the future.
STEN :D
adrianis
04-15-2004, 05:50 PM
It doesn't matter what you do, I know that with your talent you will get to the end with the winners! :bounce:
your new work it's great, I'll keep an eye on your concept sketches .:eek:
But I can't wait to see Coloring! It's amazing that gift that you have!! :thumbsup:
your new work it's great, I'll keep an eye on your concept sketches .:eek:
But I can't wait to see Coloring! It's amazing that gift that you have!! :thumbsup:
shawnalanpeters
04-15-2004, 05:55 PM
Originally posted by adrixwha
It doesn't matter what you do, I know that with your talent you will get to the end with the winners! :bounce:
your new work it's great, I'll keep an eye on your concept sketches .:eek:
But I can't wait to see Coloring! It's amazing that gift that you have!! :thumbsup:
thank you very ..very much
I have been slammed doing mattepainting at work..so I haven't had much time to develope my idea...
I will get my shit together..and get something out this weekend we can all look at and critique... thanks again for the inspiration..
S.
It doesn't matter what you do, I know that with your talent you will get to the end with the winners! :bounce:
your new work it's great, I'll keep an eye on your concept sketches .:eek:
But I can't wait to see Coloring! It's amazing that gift that you have!! :thumbsup:
thank you very ..very much
I have been slammed doing mattepainting at work..so I haven't had much time to develope my idea...
I will get my shit together..and get something out this weekend we can all look at and critique... thanks again for the inspiration..
S.
complete2
04-15-2004, 07:52 PM
whats up shawn? haven't seen you in awhile.
is Jake participating in this as well? I know i dont stand a chance against you two.
here's mine: http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=136575
well, its looking great so far. keep it up, and good luck. (tell everyone at reelfx i said hi) and if jake is in on this i'd like to see it. could you post a link?
later
--josh--
is Jake participating in this as well? I know i dont stand a chance against you two.
here's mine: http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=136575
well, its looking great so far. keep it up, and good luck. (tell everyone at reelfx i said hi) and if jake is in on this i'd like to see it. could you post a link?
later
--josh--
Terminalcore
04-16-2004, 11:45 AM
:drool:
Man you are a true artist and a very humble person. It was very cool to see that you took the time to show other WIP's. I am imspired by your work.
Very Cool Beans!!!!
Man you are a true artist and a very humble person. It was very cool to see that you took the time to show other WIP's. I am imspired by your work.
Very Cool Beans!!!!
shawnalanpeters
04-20-2004, 04:36 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/2695/2695_1082475382_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/2695/2695_1082475382_large.jpg)
I still have a ton of exploring to do...I did this last night to get the juices flowing... I wanted to get an idea of how her face would look...I generaly want to create beautiful and seductive... but I am not sure if this design lends itself to that...I an going to try roughing her up a bit..and making her gear less slick... I want to try adding more mechanical parts and wiring.
I still have a ton of exploring to do...I did this last night to get the juices flowing... I wanted to get an idea of how her face would look...I generaly want to create beautiful and seductive... but I am not sure if this design lends itself to that...I an going to try roughing her up a bit..and making her gear less slick... I want to try adding more mechanical parts and wiring.
Locusta
04-21-2004, 02:20 PM
Yeah! Great sketch. I like her lips :D
Can´t wait to see your colored work. :thumbsup:
Can´t wait to see your colored work. :thumbsup:
Neozoom
04-21-2004, 03:46 PM
yes , really cool sketch like her lips too (why all guys are focalised on the LIPS?? :p )
Wait to see colors. you have a great colouring talent Shawn, and you are good drawer too, but all this is a little classic :
girl with mechanical parts have be seen and yet seen...
Why don't you try something differently and make great coloring job as usual you do it :D on a best concept ^^ ?
But anyway good job until there ... :p
Wait to see colors. you have a great colouring talent Shawn, and you are good drawer too, but all this is a little classic :
girl with mechanical parts have be seen and yet seen...
Why don't you try something differently and make great coloring job as usual you do it :D on a best concept ^^ ?
But anyway good job until there ... :p
shawnalanpeters
04-21-2004, 03:56 PM
Originally posted by Neozoom
yes , really cool sketch like her lips too (why all guys are focalised on the LIPS?? :p )
Wait to see colors. you have a great colouring talent Shawn, and you are good drawer too, but all this is a little classic :
girl with mechanical parts have be seen and yet seen...
Why don't you try something differently and make great coloring job as usual you do it :D on a best concept ^^ ?
But anyway good job until there ... :p
this is the machine flesh challenge... we are supposed to mix something organic..with something mechanical...
If you meant something else please explain .. I don't think I understood.
and thanks for the compliment.
yes , really cool sketch like her lips too (why all guys are focalised on the LIPS?? :p )
Wait to see colors. you have a great colouring talent Shawn, and you are good drawer too, but all this is a little classic :
girl with mechanical parts have be seen and yet seen...
Why don't you try something differently and make great coloring job as usual you do it :D on a best concept ^^ ?
But anyway good job until there ... :p
this is the machine flesh challenge... we are supposed to mix something organic..with something mechanical...
If you meant something else please explain .. I don't think I understood.
and thanks for the compliment.
shawnalanpeters
04-21-2004, 10:51 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/2695/2695_1082584295_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/2695/2695_1082584295_large.jpg)
...this is a pass I took last night...I kinda pooped out 30 minutes into it... somethin' is better than nothin'
this may be the lat you see this design...I need try out some other ideas ...this one is getting boring.
...this is a pass I took last night...I kinda pooped out 30 minutes into it... somethin' is better than nothin'
this may be the lat you see this design...I need try out some other ideas ...this one is getting boring.
shawnalanpeters
04-21-2004, 10:56 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/2695/2695_1082584611_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/2695/2695_1082584611_large.jpg)
oops...I forgot a detail
oops...I forgot a detail
Squibbit
04-21-2004, 10:59 PM
yea like sensors/controllers for 18 other fists so she could
use 20 total , sensing them as a swarm of red dots in her mind
in a computer created wireframe all-around vision (she would
have normal eyesight too , this would just help her control the
20 hands/fists)
use 20 total , sensing them as a swarm of red dots in her mind
in a computer created wireframe all-around vision (she would
have normal eyesight too , this would just help her control the
20 hands/fists)
Infuscare
04-21-2004, 11:46 PM
thats insane man, :bowdown:
Drumwhore
04-22-2004, 12:30 AM
great concept and pencil work!!!
I think the final pic will be awesome :D
I think the final pic will be awesome :D
wilfrid
04-22-2004, 11:03 AM
salut c'est wilfrid je te remerci pour tes conseils :wavey:
shawnalanpeters
04-26-2004, 08:41 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/2695/2695_1083008499_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/2695/2695_1083008499_large.jpg)
here is a template driven mechanical vampire hunter idea I am working through...
I already have another one half done..I should be posting that tomorrow when I get to work near a scanner. I am pushing the mech ppart further..so it is more apparent. any way hope you like it so far. Thnks for the inspiration Vinicius!
here is a template driven mechanical vampire hunter idea I am working through...
I already have another one half done..I should be posting that tomorrow when I get to work near a scanner. I am pushing the mech ppart further..so it is more apparent. any way hope you like it so far. Thnks for the inspiration Vinicius!
shawnalanpeters
04-26-2004, 08:46 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/2695/2695_1083008779_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/2695/2695_1083008779_large.jpg)
just a detail... to make it easier to see when browsing entries.
just a detail... to make it easier to see when browsing entries.
adrianis
04-26-2004, 10:46 PM
A vampire slayer! Great Idea!! :bounce: Now, Buffy Summers has no work!
I really wanna see more!!!:applause:
I really wanna see more!!!:applause:
BloodTaster
04-27-2004, 03:13 AM
Wooow! I like a lot, man! I'm glad that my work can inspire such a good artist, your art and concept are great
And I wanna now, if you let me draw a action scene of my character and yours (when has finish), in a battle scene...:thumbsup:
And I wanna now, if you let me draw a action scene of my character and yours (when has finish), in a battle scene...:thumbsup:
XIA
04-27-2004, 03:26 AM
Originally posted by shawnalanpeters
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/2695/2695_1080068479_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/2695/2695_1080068479_large.jpg)
here is the final treatment
I was just looking thru your thread...come across this beautiful thing
NICE :thumbsup:
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/2695/2695_1080068479_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/2695/2695_1080068479_large.jpg)
here is the final treatment
I was just looking thru your thread...come across this beautiful thing
NICE :thumbsup:
shawnalanpeters
04-27-2004, 06:01 AM
Originally posted by BloodTaster
Wooow! I like a lot, man! I'm glad that my work can inspire such a good artist, your art and concept are great
And I wanna now, if you let me draw a action scene of my character and yours (when has finish), in a battle scene...:thumbsup:
Of course, that would be cool.
:thumbsup:
So, do you imagine any weaknesses for your artificial vamp?
I still had a hard time imagining what that would be.
Wooow! I like a lot, man! I'm glad that my work can inspire such a good artist, your art and concept are great
And I wanna now, if you let me draw a action scene of my character and yours (when has finish), in a battle scene...:thumbsup:
Of course, that would be cool.
:thumbsup:
So, do you imagine any weaknesses for your artificial vamp?
I still had a hard time imagining what that would be.
bonestudio
04-27-2004, 05:29 PM
What happened to girl with to floating hands ?
I'm sure that you can go further with that vampire hunter !
Oooh I didn't see that she has guns in her legs ^^ cool
Well you can choose any idea I'm sure the result will be great as always :)
I'm sure that you can go further with that vampire hunter !
Oooh I didn't see that she has guns in her legs ^^ cool
Well you can choose any idea I'm sure the result will be great as always :)
shawnalanpeters
04-27-2004, 06:22 PM
I just need to keep moving on different ideas until I come up with one I am into...I haven't got there yet... plus I have time... this contest doesn't wrap up for a while ..so I wanted to take the time to explore several ideas and get some feedback..
shawnalanpeters
04-28-2004, 04:31 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/2695/2695_1083166264_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/2695/2695_1083166264_large.jpg)
This is an alternate design I am thinking about. All of the same alterations apply. I just wanted to make her mechnical parts more apparent.
I still want to developed a shotgun version of the CrossGun. I have some minor ideas about how the gun could operate because it is held by a mechanical arm.
Also, I have some blade ideas I will have to explore too. I was thinking of a cross shaped ax...but it isn't very elegant.
hope you like it. please, give feedback or suggestions
This is an alternate design I am thinking about. All of the same alterations apply. I just wanted to make her mechnical parts more apparent.
I still want to developed a shotgun version of the CrossGun. I have some minor ideas about how the gun could operate because it is held by a mechanical arm.
Also, I have some blade ideas I will have to explore too. I was thinking of a cross shaped ax...but it isn't very elegant.
hope you like it. please, give feedback or suggestions
shawnalanpeters
04-29-2004, 01:50 AM
your ideas are getting better each time you post.......i like how you get a full understanding of your character before you decide on your final compositon.....do you have any ideas of how you are going to pose her? i'm looking forward to seeing you come up with.....
shawnalanpeters
04-29-2004, 01:54 AM
oops ..the previous thread is a friend of mine that was at my place ..and they didn't log in properly... or I should say i didn't log out properly... :surprised
shaffer
04-29-2004, 02:36 AM
I like the new design... I can't wait to see it in color.
feeesh
04-29-2004, 08:02 AM
HEy glad to see your new ideas popping in here. Im really liking some of the sketches. I think I was liking the one with the detached floating fists better though. Just seemed more original. The newest idea you have is cool but seems a bit typical with robotic babes like the robocop style chamber on the leg and stuff. Don't wanna be too harsh and rip on the idea though but given some of your other ideas it would be cool, even if you stick with your latest idea, to see you implement some more creative machanics into her.
Also, while I liked the detahced hands one you posted earlier, I didnt think the face (which looked like your previous pics you were posting early in the thread from the other contest or site) was as cool or fit as well, however aside from the similar mech look separating the jaw and upper lip thing (am i explaining this decent at all? heheh) I did like he look, like the eyes and the scar were a very cool idea for her.
On the latest idea you posted, i DO like her upper part of the outfit though. Very cool with the cross symbol in the center and the over-the-shoulder shape of the top seam. AndI like the short almost mercenary/military cut hair they have, seems to fit the personality and make of the character very well.
NIce work man! Can't wait to see more!
-JH
Also, while I liked the detahced hands one you posted earlier, I didnt think the face (which looked like your previous pics you were posting early in the thread from the other contest or site) was as cool or fit as well, however aside from the similar mech look separating the jaw and upper lip thing (am i explaining this decent at all? heheh) I did like he look, like the eyes and the scar were a very cool idea for her.
On the latest idea you posted, i DO like her upper part of the outfit though. Very cool with the cross symbol in the center and the over-the-shoulder shape of the top seam. AndI like the short almost mercenary/military cut hair they have, seems to fit the personality and make of the character very well.
NIce work man! Can't wait to see more!
-JH
shawnalanpeters
05-04-2004, 08:27 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/2695/2695_1083698867_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/2695/2695_1083698867_large.jpg)
alright...it all changes tonight.. my last few were pretty boring..and it is time to get to work. I hope you all like were it goes..
alright...it all changes tonight.. my last few were pretty boring..and it is time to get to work. I hope you all like were it goes..
shawnalanpeters
05-04-2004, 08:28 PM
I sketched these thumbnails out during a meeting this morning...It gave me some direction. So hopefully I will have luck of roughing out a solid idea tonight.
Squibbit
05-04-2004, 09:42 PM
I liked the cross gun in the previous sketch , hate to see it
gone . Maybe bring it in new form into this new concept ?
gone . Maybe bring it in new form into this new concept ?
shawnalanpeters
05-17-2004, 05:10 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/2695/2695_1084810237_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/2695/2695_1084810237_large.jpg)
I hate these designs ...but I thought I would post them since I spent so much time trying to figure out my layout.. the reference got the best of me...truth is..I need to be doing figure drawing everyday... I am to rusty to enjoy my own drawings...it is becoming work. ...anyway I had this idea that mass produced sentient robots began to have an idendity complex and became obsessed with vanity.They were facinated by the individuality of humans...and started to remove faces and other random areas of flesh from people to attach to there own bodies.
I have an image in my head of black smooth metal mechanical parts mixed with matte rubber hoses and electical parts ...overlayed with bluish white transluscent skin filled with an array of veins.. the edge of the skin is torn showing a thin layer of yellowish fatty tissue. I want is it to be an image that is as beautiful and erotic as it is grusome. ..hopefully the image will find its way to the page soon...time is ticking.
I hate these designs ...but I thought I would post them since I spent so much time trying to figure out my layout.. the reference got the best of me...truth is..I need to be doing figure drawing everyday... I am to rusty to enjoy my own drawings...it is becoming work. ...anyway I had this idea that mass produced sentient robots began to have an idendity complex and became obsessed with vanity.They were facinated by the individuality of humans...and started to remove faces and other random areas of flesh from people to attach to there own bodies.
I have an image in my head of black smooth metal mechanical parts mixed with matte rubber hoses and electical parts ...overlayed with bluish white transluscent skin filled with an array of veins.. the edge of the skin is torn showing a thin layer of yellowish fatty tissue. I want is it to be an image that is as beautiful and erotic as it is grusome. ..hopefully the image will find its way to the page soon...time is ticking.
shawnalanpeters
05-17-2004, 05:12 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/2695/2695_1084810367_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/2695/2695_1084810367_large.jpg)
this is #2
this is #2
Kilduff
05-18-2004, 11:37 AM
good work. keep it up. i would like to see what you come up with :beer:
shawnalanpeters
05-18-2004, 03:40 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/2695/2695_1084891225_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/2695/2695_1084891225_large.jpg)
I am going to run with it... I will be working out a couple more things on the mechnical part...and start doing some overlays to figure out how I am going to attach the skin. I can't wait to get to color.
I am going to run with it... I will be working out a couple more things on the mechnical part...and start doing some overlays to figure out how I am going to attach the skin. I can't wait to get to color.
gmask
05-18-2004, 06:21 PM
Wha happened the the vampire slayer idea.. I thought that was going somewhere!??!?
shawnalanpeters
05-18-2004, 07:59 PM
so did I....I didn't have a vision of it.. just a design. when everything is said and done... my final piece will be a stroing interpretation of "machineflesh".. I promise.
Originally posted by gmask
Wha happened the the vampire slayer idea.. I thought that was going somewhere!??!?
Originally posted by gmask
Wha happened the the vampire slayer idea.. I thought that was going somewhere!??!?
sketchfiend
05-19-2004, 08:37 AM
Originally posted by shawnalanpeters
so did I....I didn't have a vision of it.. just a design. when everything is said and done... my final piece will be a stroing interpretation of "machineflesh".. I promise.
So what do you have in mind? or are you still throwing around ideas? The whole vamp thing was possibly a good starting block considering it lead you to the famale head that you seem to have in mind now. Is that your focus now or just a small aspect of a larger idea?
btw, you got great sketch work, keep it up.:beer: :thumbsup:
so did I....I didn't have a vision of it.. just a design. when everything is said and done... my final piece will be a stroing interpretation of "machineflesh".. I promise.
So what do you have in mind? or are you still throwing around ideas? The whole vamp thing was possibly a good starting block considering it lead you to the famale head that you seem to have in mind now. Is that your focus now or just a small aspect of a larger idea?
btw, you got great sketch work, keep it up.:beer: :thumbsup:
complete2
05-22-2004, 07:50 PM
Originally posted by shawnalanpeters
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/2695/2695_1083166264_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/2695/2695_1083166264_large.jpg)
This is an alternate design I am thinking about. All of the same alterations apply. I just wanted to make her mechnical parts more apparent.
I still want to developed a shotgun version of the CrossGun. I have some minor ideas about how the gun could operate because it is held by a mechanical arm.
Also, I have some blade ideas I will have to explore too. I was thinking of a cross shaped ax...but it isn't very elegant.
hope you like it. please, give feedback or suggestions
hehe,
she looks like a total bitch. i'd be afraid of her if i were a vamp.
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/2695/2695_1083166264_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/2695/2695_1083166264_large.jpg)
This is an alternate design I am thinking about. All of the same alterations apply. I just wanted to make her mechnical parts more apparent.
I still want to developed a shotgun version of the CrossGun. I have some minor ideas about how the gun could operate because it is held by a mechanical arm.
Also, I have some blade ideas I will have to explore too. I was thinking of a cross shaped ax...but it isn't very elegant.
hope you like it. please, give feedback or suggestions
hehe,
she looks like a total bitch. i'd be afraid of her if i were a vamp.
duddlebug
05-25-2004, 09:24 AM
The most recent image (of the head) looks like it could be great but i reckon it's a shame to lose some of the potential of a whole figure...that you hinted at with some of your earlier posts.
Whatever you choose to do, i'm sure it'll be fantastically renedered....
Whatever you choose to do, i'm sure it'll be fantastically renedered....
shawnalanpeters
05-28-2004, 08:17 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/2695/2695_1085771847_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/2695/2695_1085771847_large.jpg)
I have been out of the loop for a while ...I am wrapping on a year long animation project next week... so I have had no time to myself to work on this...Here is a small stage I worked on at lunch today... I still have 50% more to go..I have a lot of work to do ..in order to wrap the skin on the robot the way I want..anyway..I hope this keeps you interested...and I promise..when this gets to color...you will never thing of my other designs....enjoy.
I have been out of the loop for a while ...I am wrapping on a year long animation project next week... so I have had no time to myself to work on this...Here is a small stage I worked on at lunch today... I still have 50% more to go..I have a lot of work to do ..in order to wrap the skin on the robot the way I want..anyway..I hope this keeps you interested...and I promise..when this gets to color...you will never thing of my other designs....enjoy.
londero
05-28-2004, 10:43 PM
your promises is audacioussness... but, really, I'm wait to see.
just keep the good job.
and
FORCE.
my entry (http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=141195)
just keep the good job.
and
FORCE.
my entry (http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=141195)
MrFreeman
05-29-2004, 08:14 AM
Can't wait to see the next stage - really like the concept you described earlier(blue translucent skin, etc.).
Your figurework is great - if that's what you create when feeling a bit rusty, I would love to see what happens on a good day.
So many ideas and possibilities...what will be the final idea??
Great work and the promise of superb colour work...we are all waiting:thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Your figurework is great - if that's what you create when feeling a bit rusty, I would love to see what happens on a good day.
So many ideas and possibilities...what will be the final idea??
Great work and the promise of superb colour work...we are all waiting:thumbsup: :thumbsup:
shawnalanpeters
06-02-2004, 12:23 AM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/2695/2695_1086132230_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/2695/2695_1086132230_large.jpg)
I'm getting closer...still not cool enough though...It'ds hard staying comitted to something you don't like...hopefully I will push through tonight..I have to get to collor..that is when it will make the most sense.
I'm getting closer...still not cool enough though...It'ds hard staying comitted to something you don't like...hopefully I will push through tonight..I have to get to collor..that is when it will make the most sense.
shawnalanpeters
06-03-2004, 02:20 AM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/2695/2695_1086225622_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/2695/2695_1086225622_large.jpg)
getting closer... I am still going to do some variations on the chin..
getting closer... I am still going to do some variations on the chin..
sketchfiend
06-03-2004, 02:42 AM
Great sketches bud, keep them coming, but looking at them im wondering how much of her is machine and how much is flesh. I mean her face just looks like layer of skin over what could be all metal.
Thats at least the impression i get from the stitching/pulling of her face around the metal at the sides. Will probably get a beter indication of what is flesh and metal once colour is dropped in.
Shes looking great though. Keep it up:beer: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :D
Thats at least the impression i get from the stitching/pulling of her face around the metal at the sides. Will probably get a beter indication of what is flesh and metal once colour is dropped in.
Shes looking great though. Keep it up:beer: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :D
shawnalanpeters
06-03-2004, 04:42 AM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/2695/2695_1086234159_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/2695/2695_1086234159_large.jpg)
alright...I got a little further..while around a scanner..so here you go. I am still thinking of trying another option for the forehead and jaw....plus I have a few more tubes I want ot add ..that connect to the viens.
alright...I got a little further..while around a scanner..so here you go. I am still thinking of trying another option for the forehead and jaw....plus I have a few more tubes I want ot add ..that connect to the viens.
shawnalanpeters
06-03-2004, 04:49 AM
the idea was that the robot had formed a complex about individuality...and started cuting off human faces to wear as a mask...to express it independance oveer the other machines.
I am still playing with the skin wraped over the bot... I had to design the bot first... so I could make sense of what was going to be underneath the skin...I may play with some lighting from the inside.
Originally posted by sketchfiend
Great sketches bud, keep them coming, but looking at them im wondering how much of her is machine and how much is flesh. I mean her face just looks like layer of skin over what could be all metal.
Thats at least the impression i get from the stitching/pulling of her face around the metal at the sides. Will probably get a beter indication of what is flesh and metal once colour is dropped in.
Shes looking great though. Keep it up:beer: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :D
I am still playing with the skin wraped over the bot... I had to design the bot first... so I could make sense of what was going to be underneath the skin...I may play with some lighting from the inside.
Originally posted by sketchfiend
Great sketches bud, keep them coming, but looking at them im wondering how much of her is machine and how much is flesh. I mean her face just looks like layer of skin over what could be all metal.
Thats at least the impression i get from the stitching/pulling of her face around the metal at the sides. Will probably get a beter indication of what is flesh and metal once colour is dropped in.
Shes looking great though. Keep it up:beer: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :D
sketchfiend
06-03-2004, 04:59 AM
Originally posted by shawnalanpeters
the idea was that the robot had formed a complex about individuality...and started cuting off human faces to wear as a mask...to express it independance oveer the other machines.
I am still playing with the skin wraped over the bot... I had to design the bot first... so I could make sense of what was going to be underneath the skin...I may play with some lighting from the inside.
Ok, cool, i didnt realise you had an explanation for the look of her, it all clicks now:lightbulb in that case it looks exactly as it should. Sorry bud.:beer:
Lighting from the inside would definately make good use of defining those veins in your last update. Should look awesome, keep it going.:thumbsup: :D
the idea was that the robot had formed a complex about individuality...and started cuting off human faces to wear as a mask...to express it independance oveer the other machines.
I am still playing with the skin wraped over the bot... I had to design the bot first... so I could make sense of what was going to be underneath the skin...I may play with some lighting from the inside.
Ok, cool, i didnt realise you had an explanation for the look of her, it all clicks now:lightbulb in that case it looks exactly as it should. Sorry bud.:beer:
Lighting from the inside would definately make good use of defining those veins in your last update. Should look awesome, keep it going.:thumbsup: :D
eupee
06-03-2004, 10:13 AM
this is looking very nice, would u ever consider putting her in an action packed scene?
you have a great style, very smooth and curvey, natural
you have a great style, very smooth and curvey, natural
shawnalanpeters
06-03-2004, 02:49 PM
I prefer to stay away form larger scenes...environments bore me...I hate doing landscape painting...It takes to much time for me to get perfect...and by the time I get to the character in the scene ..I am so bored or frustrated...I will not finish it...I learned that 8 years ago...and have been avoiding it since... I try to make up for it with character detail... there starting to get better ..but I have to work on making drawings that are less stiff. I could work on making an image that is less static without diving to deep into a detailed background...something underwater, perhaps.
0-2
06-03-2004, 04:05 PM
:bounce: more, more, more!
shawnalanpeters
06-03-2004, 04:18 PM
thanks!
shawnalanpeters
06-03-2004, 04:21 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/2695/2695_1086276062_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/2695/2695_1086276062_large.jpg)
this is an alternate version of the jaw and forehead... it is an earlier sketch...I will be revisiting today.
this is an alternate version of the jaw and forehead... it is an earlier sketch...I will be revisiting today.
shawnalanpeters
06-04-2004, 06:19 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/2695/2695_1086369575_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/2695/2695_1086369575_large.jpg)
Alright...this is going to be the drawing I paint over... I would like to keep gnawing at the drawing ...but if I don't start color now...it will never look the way I want in the end.. So here it goes... Any last suggestions before I start color?
Alright...this is going to be the drawing I paint over... I would like to keep gnawing at the drawing ...but if I don't start color now...it will never look the way I want in the end.. So here it goes... Any last suggestions before I start color?
Luter
06-05-2004, 12:18 AM
Nice work.......................:) ............................................................
Suggestion :
You could treat that piece like a classic-antic portrait...:arteest:
Suggestion :
You could treat that piece like a classic-antic portrait...:arteest:
shawnalanpeters
06-05-2004, 05:22 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/2695/2695_1086452576_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/2695/2695_1086452576_large.jpg)
This is my first pass at color studies...I had a cooler vision in my head...but this is what played out the most natural to me..
This is my first pass at color studies...I had a cooler vision in my head...but this is what played out the most natural to me..
shawnalanpeters
06-05-2004, 05:26 PM
That was the idea behind the pose... but I don't think my skill set lends itself to that painting style or texture...It may be to much to try to bite off with 2 weeks left.. It is an awsome idea though..
Originally posted by goli
Nice work.......................:) ............................................................
Suggestion :
You could treat that piece like a classic-antic portrait...:arteest:
Originally posted by goli
Nice work.......................:) ............................................................
Suggestion :
You could treat that piece like a classic-antic portrait...:arteest:
shawnalanpeters
06-05-2004, 05:41 PM
I think I need t recap on the concept. The idea is that mass produced sentient robots began to have problems with their personal identity and became obsessed with thier vanity. They were facinated by the individuality of humans...and started to remove unique areas of flesh from people to attach to there own bodies to help establish some sort of twisted independence. This is a comissioned portrait done for one of those robots.
harnelbe
06-05-2004, 05:42 PM
:thumbsup:
Great !
I like a lot your drawing skills !
The idea of goli is very interesting !
Great !
I like a lot your drawing skills !
The idea of goli is very interesting !
shawnalanpeters
06-05-2004, 07:02 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/2695/2695_1086458525_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/2695/2695_1086458525_large.jpg)
cooling it off
cooling it off
shawnalanpeters
06-05-2004, 09:28 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/2695/2695_1086467308_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/2695/2695_1086467308_large.jpg)
This is closer to what I am looking for..but I am going to try a few more variations.
This is closer to what I am looking for..but I am going to try a few more variations.
Luter
06-05-2004, 11:38 PM
It's becoming great...................:thumbsup:
shawnalanpeters
06-05-2004, 11:46 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/2695/2695_1086475577_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/2695/2695_1086475577_large.jpg)
another variation....
another variation....
londero
06-06-2004, 01:42 AM
This updates make me feel a bit of scare... CRAZYMAN, this images will follow me in my dreams!!!
great colors. Awesome.
Anxious to see more. :bounce:
Force!:thumbsup:
my entry (http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=141195&perpage=15&pagenumber=1)
great colors. Awesome.
Anxious to see more. :bounce:
Force!:thumbsup:
my entry (http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=141195&perpage=15&pagenumber=1)
sketchfiend
06-06-2004, 04:22 AM
Love your colour work esspecially the veins through the skin, its looking sweet shawn. Keep it up. :bowdown: :thumbsup: At this stage i actually prefer the pale blue skin version she looks a lot scarier. You should put in those hotspots of light under the skin that you mentioned. It show up the veins really well, kinda like putting a torch up to you hand and seeing you palm glowing red. That kind of thing. Its looking awesome though, keep it going.:beer: :bowdown:
shawnalanpeters
06-06-2004, 10:35 AM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/2695/2695_1086514552_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/2695/2695_1086514552_large.jpg)
...another for a night cap....I have 2 more I developed within the hour of the rest...I was just spreading them out so that I could be on the front page and have the image get some attention and critique.....but people seem to view and not speak...
anyone out there have an honest an subjective opinion? ...please give me a crit... color, composition, line quality, values, line or shape tangencies, color-shape-line-value harmony, cool or bo-bo factor.somin' somin'..is this peace really that boring?...anyone...anyone?
I thought it was OK...anyone hate it or dig it?
alright..the captain morgan and coke is finally wearing off ....good night...
LOL.
...another for a night cap....I have 2 more I developed within the hour of the rest...I was just spreading them out so that I could be on the front page and have the image get some attention and critique.....but people seem to view and not speak...
anyone out there have an honest an subjective opinion? ...please give me a crit... color, composition, line quality, values, line or shape tangencies, color-shape-line-value harmony, cool or bo-bo factor.somin' somin'..is this peace really that boring?...anyone...anyone?
I thought it was OK...anyone hate it or dig it?
alright..the captain morgan and coke is finally wearing off ....good night...
LOL.
shawnalanpeters
06-06-2004, 10:45 AM
good lookin' out...I agree.. it's kind of like like a flashlight in your mouth...
..I am all over it... I will definetly test pushing some light through the backside of the skin..time will tell..unfortunately...,my process and deadline for the 18th...might lend itself to a quiker fix....or an expedited evolution and finish... I will put it to the test though..thanks for the comment "sketchfiend'...
Originally posted by sketchfiend
Love your colour work esspecially the veins through the skin, its looking sweet shawn. Keep it up. :bowdown: :thumbsup: At this stage i actually prefer the pale blue skin version she looks a lot scarier. You should put in those hotspots of light under the skin that you mentioned. It show up the veins really well, kinda like putting a torch up to you hand and seeing you palm glowing red. That kind of thing. Its looking awesome though, keep it going.:beer: :bowdown:
..I am all over it... I will definetly test pushing some light through the backside of the skin..time will tell..unfortunately...,my process and deadline for the 18th...might lend itself to a quiker fix....or an expedited evolution and finish... I will put it to the test though..thanks for the comment "sketchfiend'...
Originally posted by sketchfiend
Love your colour work esspecially the veins through the skin, its looking sweet shawn. Keep it up. :bowdown: :thumbsup: At this stage i actually prefer the pale blue skin version she looks a lot scarier. You should put in those hotspots of light under the skin that you mentioned. It show up the veins really well, kinda like putting a torch up to you hand and seeing you palm glowing red. That kind of thing. Its looking awesome though, keep it going.:beer: :bowdown:
Wojtala
06-06-2004, 11:08 AM
Wow... another great concept - little scary thought..
feeling the robots struggle to keep the face "alife" and animate it somehow,half of the lips gone... it gave me a creeps...
I like the look of vains and I think he green colors do much good :D
keep it going - there is still time :D good luck !
feeling the robots struggle to keep the face "alife" and animate it somehow,half of the lips gone... it gave me a creeps...
I like the look of vains and I think he green colors do much good :D
keep it going - there is still time :D good luck !
shawnalanpeters
06-06-2004, 04:03 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/2695/2695_1086534203_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/2695/2695_1086534203_large.jpg)
This is what I am going to use...It may be slightly different in the end. Once all the light is on the figure ...I may need to change the valur or saturation of the background....but for the most part ...this is it.
This is what I am going to use...It may be slightly different in the end. Once all the light is on the figure ...I may need to change the valur or saturation of the background....but for the most part ...this is it.
shawnalanpeters
06-06-2004, 07:51 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/2695/2695_1086547913_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/2695/2695_1086547913_large.jpg)
ok...Little more...color.
ok...Little more...color.
shawnalanpeters
06-07-2004, 03:19 AM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/2695/2695_1086574769_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/2695/2695_1086574769_large.jpg)
This is the first step I take laying out my image for paint. The first thing I do is set up a folder structure in the layer palette. I create them based on the major shapes. In this case it was the background, body, face and wires. The next stage is to trace out the secondary shapes with paths. Specifically the individual parts of the robot. I could use layer grouping as I build up light..but that creates a very deep layer palette and can be confusing to srub and locate the layer you are looking for. Saving out paths help spread out the organization and doesn't add to much to the file size. As I am naming and saving out paths, I will convert them to selections and start filling them in the layer palette.
This is the first step I take laying out my image for paint. The first thing I do is set up a folder structure in the layer palette. I create them based on the major shapes. In this case it was the background, body, face and wires. The next stage is to trace out the secondary shapes with paths. Specifically the individual parts of the robot. I could use layer grouping as I build up light..but that creates a very deep layer palette and can be confusing to srub and locate the layer you are looking for. Saving out paths help spread out the organization and doesn't add to much to the file size. As I am naming and saving out paths, I will convert them to selections and start filling them in the layer palette.
shawnalanpeters
06-07-2004, 03:30 AM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/2695/2695_1086575421_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/2695/2695_1086575421_large.jpg)
This the end of the first step. Painting set-up/layout. After I have filled all the selections with their base color and have a solid major shape in the layer palette. I will save the each selection of the major shape in a channel for safe keeping.. and as a place to pull an easy selection from later. Plus...it helps to spread out the organization from the path palete.I used to save out channels for all my shapes..buti found out the hard way and photoshop has a limit on how many you can save.19 or 20...and it adds to the file size more than paths.
This the end of the first step. Painting set-up/layout. After I have filled all the selections with their base color and have a solid major shape in the layer palette. I will save the each selection of the major shape in a channel for safe keeping.. and as a place to pull an easy selection from later. Plus...it helps to spread out the organization from the path palete.I used to save out channels for all my shapes..buti found out the hard way and photoshop has a limit on how many you can save.19 or 20...and it adds to the file size more than paths.
Sandpiper
06-07-2004, 03:38 AM
Hey Shawn....great stuff, man.....I love the process and attention to layer organization that you have going. The concept is cool...don't worry about people not responding. It usually means that people have nothing to crit at that particular point and just to keep going and bring it to the next level of awe. If you start screwing it up, the people will let you know. It's happened to me and it's actually a wonderful thing. :)
Crit from me (actually more of a suggestion)....I know this is a wip and all and time is running out, but looking at the skin, I'm missing that "alive" feeling....that subsurface light scattering that you have been talking about with the other peeps here is a great fix for that....but maybe you're going for more of a cadaverish look in the end? What's the direction you plan on taking it to? The machine using the flesh as a "mask" or actually as a "real face"????
Keep cranking and taking it to the next level!! Hope to see you guys over at Reelfx in the near future.....
Crit from me (actually more of a suggestion)....I know this is a wip and all and time is running out, but looking at the skin, I'm missing that "alive" feeling....that subsurface light scattering that you have been talking about with the other peeps here is a great fix for that....but maybe you're going for more of a cadaverish look in the end? What's the direction you plan on taking it to? The machine using the flesh as a "mask" or actually as a "real face"????
Keep cranking and taking it to the next level!! Hope to see you guys over at Reelfx in the near future.....
eupee
06-07-2004, 09:53 AM
seems you got a set way u organise most your digital paintings. My Entry has come up to over 450mb... its savage cos of the layers...
this is looking sweet.
this is looking sweet.
shawnalanpeters
06-07-2004, 02:36 PM
The skin is dying skin... the translucency wil be the viens showing through..subsurface lighting will be a first time attempt as I get to that stage... the skin will look more like a dead persons flesh when I am finished.
Originally posted by Sandpiper
Hey Shawn....great stuff, man.....I love the process and attention to layer organization that you have going. The concept is cool...don't worry about people not responding. It usually means that people have nothing to crit at that particular point and just to keep going and bring it to the next level of awe. If you start screwing it up, the people will let you know. It's happened to me and it's actually a wonderful thing. :)
Crit from me (actually more of a suggestion)....I know this is a wip and all and time is running out, but looking at the skin, I'm missing that "alive" feeling....that subsurface light scattering that you have been talking about with the other peeps here is a great fix for that....but maybe you're going for more of a cadaverish look in the end? What's the direction you plan on taking it to? The machine using the flesh as a "mask" or actually as a "real face"????
Keep cranking and taking it to the next level!! Hope to see you guys over at Reelfx in the near future.....
Originally posted by Sandpiper
Hey Shawn....great stuff, man.....I love the process and attention to layer organization that you have going. The concept is cool...don't worry about people not responding. It usually means that people have nothing to crit at that particular point and just to keep going and bring it to the next level of awe. If you start screwing it up, the people will let you know. It's happened to me and it's actually a wonderful thing. :)
Crit from me (actually more of a suggestion)....I know this is a wip and all and time is running out, but looking at the skin, I'm missing that "alive" feeling....that subsurface light scattering that you have been talking about with the other peeps here is a great fix for that....but maybe you're going for more of a cadaverish look in the end? What's the direction you plan on taking it to? The machine using the flesh as a "mask" or actually as a "real face"????
Keep cranking and taking it to the next level!! Hope to see you guys over at Reelfx in the near future.....
shawnalanpeters
06-07-2004, 04:09 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/2695/2695_1086620967_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/2695/2695_1086620967_large.jpg)
this is how it looks before I start to model the lighting. I use the darkest value of the color I am modeling. All keyed to a local color. I will keep at least 10% of that local color in my whites until the very end..That way can lightly punch up the hightlights withpout going to far ro fast.
this is how it looks before I start to model the lighting. I use the darkest value of the color I am modeling. All keyed to a local color. I will keep at least 10% of that local color in my whites until the very end..That way can lightly punch up the hightlights withpout going to far ro fast.
Falcorr
06-07-2004, 04:45 PM
I wouldnt have your ability to small tweaking at the beginning. Its obvious your planning something big or just testing out stuff.
I have to say that the blood vains? or so at the face doesnt really look like blood vains. It makes me think of marble surface.
They look too edgy, but she isnt normal woman neither so maybe im just babbling about things you know allready and have planned
Sorry bout that! :hmm:
But of course in the end you will be the one who thriumps :thumbsup:
I have to say that the blood vains? or so at the face doesnt really look like blood vains. It makes me think of marble surface.
They look too edgy, but she isnt normal woman neither so maybe im just babbling about things you know allready and have planned
Sorry bout that! :hmm:
But of course in the end you will be the one who thriumps :thumbsup:
shawnalanpeters
06-07-2004, 05:48 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/2695/2695_1086626906_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/2695/2695_1086626906_large.jpg)
this is a study I did for something else...and led me to the image I am working on now.. this is close to the look I will be shooting for on my image.. minus the "real texture". I want to achieve the look trough paint only.
this is a study I did for something else...and led me to the image I am working on now.. this is close to the look I will be shooting for on my image.. minus the "real texture". I want to achieve the look trough paint only.
adrianis
06-07-2004, 08:55 PM
wow! really gothic!!
You're doing a great color work!!
It would be nice if after this challenge, if time allows, you develop this idea with full body :)
I'll be waiting for more :thumbsup:
You're doing a great color work!!
It would be nice if after this challenge, if time allows, you develop this idea with full body :)
I'll be waiting for more :thumbsup:
shawnalanpeters
06-08-2004, 04:07 AM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/2695/2695_1086664027_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/2695/2695_1086664027_large.jpg)
I start working the skin.. I have a long way to go..but this is how far I got today..
I start working the skin.. I have a long way to go..but this is how far I got today..
shawnalanpeters
06-08-2004, 04:25 AM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/2695/2695_1086665103_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/2695/2695_1086665103_large.jpg)
I should of posted this first.. This is the first step of painting.. basically I just start building up light over the base color and shape I am working on. Occasionally I will create a layer above all the others and set the layer set to soft light..and start loosely blocking in a main and secondary light source. This layer is just for reference and gets trashed.. I may need to do it by tomorrow for the body..I got lazy when I did the color study...and didn't flush that out completly...
I should of posted this first.. This is the first step of painting.. basically I just start building up light over the base color and shape I am working on. Occasionally I will create a layer above all the others and set the layer set to soft light..and start loosely blocking in a main and secondary light source. This layer is just for reference and gets trashed.. I may need to do it by tomorrow for the body..I got lazy when I did the color study...and didn't flush that out completly...
shawnalanpeters
06-08-2004, 04:55 AM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/2695/2695_1086666914_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/2695/2695_1086666914_large.jpg)
This is where I stop tonight. good night!
This is where I stop tonight. good night!
FreekyMage
06-08-2004, 11:33 AM
i really love your style, perfect! :)
i got your prevouis drawing as wallpaper for over 2 months now i think :D
:applause: :thumbsup: good luck with the challenge
also thanks to post how you work, really helpfull to learn some stuff
i got your prevouis drawing as wallpaper for over 2 months now i think :D
:applause: :thumbsup: good luck with the challenge
also thanks to post how you work, really helpfull to learn some stuff
madone01
06-08-2004, 12:47 PM
man your work is ahm impresive ecelent supurb your colouring is smooth wish i coud pay to teach me how to use my colour :cry: :applause: :beer:
shawnalanpeters
06-08-2004, 05:07 PM
that is a pretty big complement.. I really appreciate it.. If you want I could email you a compressed hi res image.
Originally posted by FreekyMage
i really love your style, perfect! :)
i got your prevouis drawing as wallpaper for over 2 months now i think :D
:applause: :thumbsup: good luck with the challenge
also thanks to post how you work, really helpfull to learn some stuff
Originally posted by FreekyMage
i really love your style, perfect! :)
i got your prevouis drawing as wallpaper for over 2 months now i think :D
:applause: :thumbsup: good luck with the challenge
also thanks to post how you work, really helpfull to learn some stuff
shawnalanpeters
06-09-2004, 05:00 AM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/2695/2695_1086753633_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/2695/2695_1086753633_large.jpg)
I hope this is usefull to somebody..I am going to track my painting each night...or day. Tonight I built a loose base over the head..and working to block out the rest of the body so I can see it better..I also built the wire harness for the neck..you can see I have a merged layer and 3 seperate hidden layers in the wire harnes layer. I merge them so I can treat their color harmoniously..and reserve them seperate ..in case I change my mind later..
I hope this is usefull to somebody..I am going to track my painting each night...or day. Tonight I built a loose base over the head..and working to block out the rest of the body so I can see it better..I also built the wire harness for the neck..you can see I have a merged layer and 3 seperate hidden layers in the wire harnes layer. I merge them so I can treat their color harmoniously..and reserve them seperate ..in case I change my mind later..
shawnalanpeters
06-09-2004, 05:40 AM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/2695/2695_1086756029_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/2695/2695_1086756029_large.jpg)
this goes with the proir post
this goes with the proir post
2kre8
06-09-2004, 06:39 AM
I have been watching this thread and I think it's great how you show everything, a good learning experience, keep it up
techart
06-09-2004, 12:57 PM
amazing work dude.....awesome...I like your style a lot..real pro'...I'm waching you
paulwdavidson
06-09-2004, 01:13 PM
Congratulations, mate. You have achieved a beautiful looking piece. I love the cool blues, it really adds to the mood.
As I was looking at it, the one thing I thought would bring something to the table was the introduction of a very subtle yellow light, to compliment the purples.
Other than that, i believe this is going to be a very good piece.
Good luck
Paul
http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=133522
As I was looking at it, the one thing I thought would bring something to the table was the introduction of a very subtle yellow light, to compliment the purples.
Other than that, i believe this is going to be a very good piece.
Good luck
Paul
http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=133522
shawnalanpeters
06-09-2004, 02:24 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/2695/2695_1086787464_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/2695/2695_1086787464_large.jpg)
just a litte..furthur..I strted paying eith the eyes an viens a litte.
just a litte..furthur..I strted paying eith the eyes an viens a litte.
shawnalanpeters
06-09-2004, 02:26 PM
great coment...I was thinking that would be added into the fatty
tissue on the unerside of the skin...
Originally posted by Paul Davidson
Congratulations, mate. You have achieved a beautiful looking piece. I love the cool blues, it really adds to the mood.
As I was looking at it, the one thing I thought would bring something to the table was the introduction of a very subtle yellow light, to compliment the purples.
Other than that, i believe this is going to be a very good piece.
Good luck
Paul
http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=133522
tissue on the unerside of the skin...
Originally posted by Paul Davidson
Congratulations, mate. You have achieved a beautiful looking piece. I love the cool blues, it really adds to the mood.
As I was looking at it, the one thing I thought would bring something to the table was the introduction of a very subtle yellow light, to compliment the purples.
Other than that, i believe this is going to be a very good piece.
Good luck
Paul
http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=133522
londero
06-09-2004, 04:31 PM
Better and better. Congratulations.
Del pecado de mi pueblo comen, y en su maldad levantan su alma (http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=141195&perpage=15&pagenumber=11)
Del pecado de mi pueblo comen, y en su maldad levantan su alma (http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=141195&perpage=15&pagenumber=11)
shawnalanpeters
06-10-2004, 12:25 AM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/2695/2695_1086823504_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/2695/2695_1086823504_large.jpg)
I forgot to post this before the last image...I will have an update in several hours.. I just got in from work...so it is time to paint..!
I forgot to post this before the last image...I will have an update in several hours.. I just got in from work...so it is time to paint..!
shawnalanpeters
06-10-2004, 12:49 AM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/2695/2695_1086824980_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/2695/2695_1086824980_large.jpg)
I did another study with the painting in its current state to see how it would look if I brightened the flesh and saturated the viens.. I think this works much better.
I did another study with the painting in its current state to see how it would look if I brightened the flesh and saturated the viens.. I think this works much better.
jack_sparrow
06-10-2004, 01:33 AM
WOW!... you are gifted my friend!:beer:
raul_nirvana
06-10-2004, 08:23 AM
nice work ....cant wait to see the finale
my machineflesh thread (http://cgtalk.com/showthread.php?threadid=138729)
my machineflesh thread (http://cgtalk.com/showthread.php?threadid=138729)
techart
06-10-2004, 09:00 AM
love it more and more.....
shawnalanpeters
06-10-2004, 02:09 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/2695/2695_1086872988_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/2695/2695_1086872988_large.jpg)
I did some more work modeling the face and lightened it a couple values. I also moved the pupils..they looked to far apart.
I did some more work modeling the face and lightened it a couple values. I also moved the pupils..they looked to far apart.
sketchfiend
06-10-2004, 04:19 PM
youve got some really nice tonal work going for you in her skin.. i cant wait to see it once you start to drop in all the finer points...the image will come up damn well considering what youve done with it so far...Great work bud... i look forward to more.:thumbsup: :bowdown: :D :beer: :beer:
JasonChan
06-10-2004, 06:52 PM
Those skin tones are right on. I also like the added detail of the camera-like eyes. Very nice :thumbsup:
shawnalanpeters
06-11-2004, 04:53 AM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/2695/2695_1086926037_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/2695/2695_1086926037_large.jpg)
I am starting to like it now...I wanted to give up all week...sometimes you just look at something to long... and you have to get over the hump... at this point I can see the top of the hill... hopefully 12 more hours will put me on the downhill of the journey.
I am starting to like it now...I wanted to give up all week...sometimes you just look at something to long... and you have to get over the hump... at this point I can see the top of the hill... hopefully 12 more hours will put me on the downhill of the journey.
shawnalanpeters
06-11-2004, 02:51 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/2695/2695_1086961890_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/2695/2695_1086961890_large.jpg)
this is where I left off last night. I buily up the tne and color on the face and workrd on the veins a little. I also took a stab at how reflective the eyes should be... I was thinking it would all be cased in glass...but I wnder if having it receesed in metal would look better.
this is where I left off last night. I buily up the tne and color on the face and workrd on the veins a little. I also took a stab at how reflective the eyes should be... I was thinking it would all be cased in glass...but I wnder if having it receesed in metal would look better.
Sandpiper
06-11-2004, 02:53 PM
I know how you feel Shawn.....I've questioned my entry many many times. Then someone comes along with some great crit or you have your own personal epiphany about "Why it's not working"......all part of the process, I guess.
Only a week left to go. Good thing you don't have to worry about having to save time for rendering like the 3D entries do. I look forward to the finished piece. Looks incredible so far....skin is very nice and it's achieving what you said you wanted it to represent! :thumbsup:
Only a week left to go. Good thing you don't have to worry about having to save time for rendering like the 3D entries do. I look forward to the finished piece. Looks incredible so far....skin is very nice and it's achieving what you said you wanted it to represent! :thumbsup:
shawnalanpeters
06-11-2004, 04:22 PM
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Sandpiper
[B]I know how you feel Shawn.....I've questioned my entry many many times. Then someone comes along with some great crit or you have your own personal epiphany about "Why it's not working"......all part of the process, I guess.
Only a week left to go. Good thing you don't have to worry about having to save time for rendering like the 3D entries do. I look forward to the finished piece. Looks incredible so far....skin is very nice and it's achieving what you said you wanted it to represent! :thumbsup:
Thanks Jesse. I gotta a lot of work ahed of me this weekend..."rendering" by hand!:surprised
[B]I know how you feel Shawn.....I've questioned my entry many many times. Then someone comes along with some great crit or you have your own personal epiphany about "Why it's not working"......all part of the process, I guess.
Only a week left to go. Good thing you don't have to worry about having to save time for rendering like the 3D entries do. I look forward to the finished piece. Looks incredible so far....skin is very nice and it's achieving what you said you wanted it to represent! :thumbsup:
Thanks Jesse. I gotta a lot of work ahed of me this weekend..."rendering" by hand!:surprised
Sandpiper
06-11-2004, 04:25 PM
Ah, you're right! I forgot you actually have to paint that shizzle. I take it back then...I probably have it easier because I can tell the computer to render it while I go eat and watch a movie or something. :)
shawnalanpeters
06-12-2004, 10:09 AM
exactly...you build it...and depending on your understanding of light and it's parameters ...traditionally... most technical people can call themselves artists and let the computer do the work!
I see it abused everyday... study life ...everybody..
me more so.!
a good example or comparison.. is the fresh out the box guy that picks up PS for the first time... you experiment ...or rely on the filters to creat the look of success... A dead give away to..."I don't know shit" ... not to say that "filters" are bad...but they should not be a crutch.. If used wisely...or in a manner that is non discript....more power to you for being more efficient... and solving the problem with a filter un-noticable... and believe me if you are still thinking..."but, that filter loooks cool" you will never get it.....give up! or try harder!
sorry for the hate... but I had a good / but terrrrible argument about my current ideal and dislikes ... and it got me way to heated.. ....plus some 6'8" big ass bitch...wanted to kick my ass earlier today, because I asked him what the last name of a guy he was looking for...was...
he thought I was the FBI and that pissed him off enough ..that he wanted to kill me.... j
ust tryin' to help a guy....and I am disrespectful?
... life can suck in so many beautiful ways...
throw it out there ... see what happens.!
I see it abused everyday... study life ...everybody..
me more so.!
a good example or comparison.. is the fresh out the box guy that picks up PS for the first time... you experiment ...or rely on the filters to creat the look of success... A dead give away to..."I don't know shit" ... not to say that "filters" are bad...but they should not be a crutch.. If used wisely...or in a manner that is non discript....more power to you for being more efficient... and solving the problem with a filter un-noticable... and believe me if you are still thinking..."but, that filter loooks cool" you will never get it.....give up! or try harder!
sorry for the hate... but I had a good / but terrrrible argument about my current ideal and dislikes ... and it got me way to heated.. ....plus some 6'8" big ass bitch...wanted to kick my ass earlier today, because I asked him what the last name of a guy he was looking for...was...
he thought I was the FBI and that pissed him off enough ..that he wanted to kill me.... j
ust tryin' to help a guy....and I am disrespectful?
... life can suck in so many beautiful ways...
throw it out there ... see what happens.!
shawnalanpeters
06-12-2004, 10:09 AM
exactly...you build it...and depending on your understanding of light and it's parameters ...traditionally... most technical people can call themselves artists and let the computer do the work!
I see it abused everyday... study life ...everybody..
me more so.!
a good example or comparison.. is the fresh out the box guy that picks up PS for the first time... you experiment ...or rely on the filters to creat the look of success... A dead give away to..."I don't know shit" ... not to say that "filters" are bad...but they should not be a crutch.. If used wisely...or in a manner that is non discript....more power to you for being more efficient... and solving the problem with a filter un-noticable... and believe me if you are still thinking..."but, that filter loooks cool" you will never get it.....give up! or try harder!
sorry for the hate... but I had a good / but terrrrible argument about my current ideal and dislikes ... and it got me way to heated.. ....plus some 6'8" big ass bitch...wanted to kick my ass earlier today, because I asked him what the last name of a guy he was looking for...was...
he thought I was the FBI and that pissed him off enough ..that he wanted to kill me.... j
ust tryin' to help a guy....and I am disrespectful?
... life can suck in so many beautiful ways...
throw it out there ... see what happens.!
I see it abused everyday... study life ...everybody..
me more so.!
a good example or comparison.. is the fresh out the box guy that picks up PS for the first time... you experiment ...or rely on the filters to creat the look of success... A dead give away to..."I don't know shit" ... not to say that "filters" are bad...but they should not be a crutch.. If used wisely...or in a manner that is non discript....more power to you for being more efficient... and solving the problem with a filter un-noticable... and believe me if you are still thinking..."but, that filter loooks cool" you will never get it.....give up! or try harder!
sorry for the hate... but I had a good / but terrrrible argument about my current ideal and dislikes ... and it got me way to heated.. ....plus some 6'8" big ass bitch...wanted to kick my ass earlier today, because I asked him what the last name of a guy he was looking for...was...
he thought I was the FBI and that pissed him off enough ..that he wanted to kill me.... j
ust tryin' to help a guy....and I am disrespectful?
... life can suck in so many beautiful ways...
throw it out there ... see what happens.!
FreekyMage
06-12-2004, 10:47 PM
:eek: double post :)
i understand your thinking shawn, but i still think it's pretty important to know the techi stuff, not that your work would be better nescesarily (is that written right?) but you could finish you work much faster. I'm mostly thinken about shortcuts here...
i also don't think i'm an artist, but i'm working on it, but first more tech stuff to learn, else my 3D char's wouldn't have textures :)
anyway, lets not argue about that now...
sry to here you had a bad day.... my day was great because i got your mail :p thanks man, i hope i can get the new monitor by wednesday
someone in here said something about bringing in some yellow to get some more contrast etc, why not try to give here fire-like eyes, i mean like the metal your proposed, but very very hot so it's glowing in the dark orange.... just an idea though, but it would bring more life in the character imo
anyhow, great work, keep it up! :applause:
i understand your thinking shawn, but i still think it's pretty important to know the techi stuff, not that your work would be better nescesarily (is that written right?) but you could finish you work much faster. I'm mostly thinken about shortcuts here...
i also don't think i'm an artist, but i'm working on it, but first more tech stuff to learn, else my 3D char's wouldn't have textures :)
anyway, lets not argue about that now...
sry to here you had a bad day.... my day was great because i got your mail :p thanks man, i hope i can get the new monitor by wednesday
someone in here said something about bringing in some yellow to get some more contrast etc, why not try to give here fire-like eyes, i mean like the metal your proposed, but very very hot so it's glowing in the dark orange.... just an idea though, but it would bring more life in the character imo
anyhow, great work, keep it up! :applause:
shawnalanpeters
06-13-2004, 10:37 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/2695/2695_1087162630_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/2695/2695_1087162630_large.jpg)
...got the fatty tissue worked out...
mostly.
...got the fatty tissue worked out...
mostly.
shawnalanpeters
06-14-2004, 05:28 AM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/2695/2695_1087187324_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/2695/2695_1087187324_large.jpg)
this is today's work...I spent half of sunday...getting this far...It should be smooth sailing..now that the skin is almost finished.. The metal should go pretty fast. I concentrated on building up and polishing the flesh and fat.. you can see the additional layers and progression.
this is today's work...I spent half of sunday...getting this far...It should be smooth sailing..now that the skin is almost finished.. The metal should go pretty fast. I concentrated on building up and polishing the flesh and fat.. you can see the additional layers and progression.
shawnalanpeters
06-14-2004, 02:25 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/2695/2695_1087219522_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/2695/2695_1087219522_large.jpg)
this is what it looks like from yesterdays work.
this is what it looks like from yesterdays work.
MrFreeman
06-14-2004, 03:29 PM
:thumbsup: Looking good....
..I've used Photoshop for years and I don't think I've ever seen so many paths and layers in one comp.....the skin looks great....
Great work....look forward to seeing final image:applause: :applause:
..I've used Photoshop for years and I don't think I've ever seen so many paths and layers in one comp.....the skin looks great....
Great work....look forward to seeing final image:applause: :applause:
Blackarts
06-14-2004, 04:46 PM
Holy frickin layers Batman!
That's one crazy-ass PS file....but your ultra-fine rendered results are really impressive. Very interesting technique you have, How long does it take you to finish a peice usually? I am thinking this method requires a lot of time. I really love the subtle lighting you have on her face, and the overall design is very cool...it's those eyes...they rock!
cheers
DM
That's one crazy-ass PS file....but your ultra-fine rendered results are really impressive. Very interesting technique you have, How long does it take you to finish a peice usually? I am thinking this method requires a lot of time. I really love the subtle lighting you have on her face, and the overall design is very cool...it's those eyes...they rock!
cheers
DM
Blackarts
06-14-2004, 04:46 PM
edit: posted twice by mistake
shawnalanpeters
06-14-2004, 05:05 PM
I probably have 18 hours in the paint at this point.. I worked on it on and off a few nights during the week for 2-3 hr sessions and 8 hours yesterday...set up took a litte over an hour.... trust me it saves time in the end...everything I need is layed out... I don't have much cutting to do when it come sto mattes and selections.. plus ...I can edit at any point quickly. It gives me romm the think and be spontaneous when in paint mode.
Originally posted by Blackarts
Holy frickin layers Batman!
That's one crazy-ass PS file....but your ultra-fine rendered results are really impressive. Very interesting technique you have, How long does it take you to finish a peice usually? I am thinking this method requires a lot of time. I really love the subtle lighting you have on her face, and the overall design is very cool...it's those eyes...they rock!
cheers
DM
Originally posted by Blackarts
Holy frickin layers Batman!
That's one crazy-ass PS file....but your ultra-fine rendered results are really impressive. Very interesting technique you have, How long does it take you to finish a peice usually? I am thinking this method requires a lot of time. I really love the subtle lighting you have on her face, and the overall design is very cool...it's those eyes...they rock!
cheers
DM
shawnalanpeters
06-14-2004, 05:29 PM
for newer viewers:
-recap on the concept. The idea is that mass produced sentient robots began to have problems with their personal identity and became obsessed with their vanity. They were fascinated by the individuality of humans...and started to remove unique areas of flesh from people to attach to there own bodies to help establish some sort of twisted independence. This is a commissioned digital portrait done for one of those robots.
-recap on the concept. The idea is that mass produced sentient robots began to have problems with their personal identity and became obsessed with their vanity. They were fascinated by the individuality of humans...and started to remove unique areas of flesh from people to attach to there own bodies to help establish some sort of twisted independence. This is a commissioned digital portrait done for one of those robots.
BloodTaster
06-14-2004, 05:32 PM
Hey Man!
Looks awesome! I dont have much to say...just keep it!! the time is running out:thumbsup: :drool:
Looks awesome! I dont have much to say...just keep it!! the time is running out:thumbsup: :drool:
feeesh
06-14-2004, 06:13 PM
Coming along really nice. The flesh actually is well done and looks like a slab of flesh! Only thing I would suggest ismaybe play down the veins a bit to look a little more like they are "under" the flesh. Or maybe just not have as many throughout, like maybe more toward the edges or something. Hard to say as that's a tough illusion to paint. :shrug:
-JH
-JH
vincentvv
06-14-2004, 07:42 PM
Love the blue`ish mood...
Ur painting skills are top notch, this woman couldtn be much more "realistic", almost like u can reach out and touch the skin...
Good luck with finals:thumbsup:
Ur painting skills are top notch, this woman couldtn be much more "realistic", almost like u can reach out and touch the skin...
Good luck with finals:thumbsup:
JasonChan
06-14-2004, 07:47 PM
The piece is looking great! The flesh is coming along really nicely. The eye area seems to flatten out a little for me, though. You have these beautiful cool light sources that bring out the brow, nose, cheeks, and lip, but it doesn't seem to hit the eyes quite enough. Right now it feels more like the eyelids are just painted on and aren't effected by the lightsource. Maybe just a small highlight on the top lids and an even smaller highlights on the rim of the bottom lids would do it. These are really small details, but I think that it since you have it looking so realistic already, it may push that even more.
But like I said, this is coming along great! Can't wait to see what the finished product looks like!
But like I said, this is coming along great! Can't wait to see what the finished product looks like!
shawnalanpeters
06-14-2004, 08:38 PM
thanks guys...that is exactly what I was looking for... I got some additional feedback at work today... most are worth exploring.
I appreciate it.
I appreciate it.
shawnalanpeters
06-15-2004, 06:02 AM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/2695/2695_1087275737_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/2695/2695_1087275737_large.jpg)
most ..99% of the light from the right is finished.. tomorrow night I will be finishing all the light from the left..
which will give me one more open night for tweeks..I am sure I will not get it exactly where I want it for the challenge. but what piece ever is?
most ..99% of the light from the right is finished.. tomorrow night I will be finishing all the light from the left..
which will give me one more open night for tweeks..I am sure I will not get it exactly where I want it for the challenge. but what piece ever is?
hdri
06-15-2004, 09:39 AM
Nice job, Shawn!
I like very much the skin effect; it's becoming succesfully translucent, and God knows this is hard to achieve. Good work!
I like very much the skin effect; it's becoming succesfully translucent, and God knows this is hard to achieve. Good work!
marcnail
06-15-2004, 09:45 AM
I like the barely visible blue veins below the skin.
Its reminicent of "Robocop",but looks more convincing.
great job.:beer:
Its reminicent of "Robocop",but looks more convincing.
great job.:beer:
0-2
06-15-2004, 09:53 AM
very neat, nice control, it's looking great:thumbsup:
shawnalanpeters
06-16-2004, 01:32 AM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/2695/2695_1087345962_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/2695/2695_1087345962_large.jpg)
gettin' close!
gettin' close!
neble
06-16-2004, 06:39 AM
I like the rolled up skin thing that's going on. Looking forward to seeing this with lighting.
techart
06-16-2004, 08:23 AM
awesome man.....nice work....
Irratio
06-16-2004, 12:58 PM
For me, The second best image so far on this contest. Why - it seems perfect in a technical sense, but a bit boring in a creative sense. I am sorry for that.
shawnalanpeters
06-16-2004, 02:58 PM
portrait vs action pose ...I have to agree. plus the other one is contemporary... it is as trendy as it can be.. it is the definition of digital concept painting.... today
duddlebug
06-16-2004, 07:25 PM
It's looking great, shawn!!
All the machine elements really work together and with the face now they've got their colour applied. I'd missed your story (somehow?) so thanks for the re-cap. I think it's a great idea and kinda creepy. It makes you wonder who 'owned' the face before....
And that little detached piece of skin that used to be someone's real face is a great answer to the 'machineflesh' brief.
And who's painting the machine...? Another machine...? Or a person who's still lucky enough to have a face...?
Nice work...
And good luck...
All the machine elements really work together and with the face now they've got their colour applied. I'd missed your story (somehow?) so thanks for the re-cap. I think it's a great idea and kinda creepy. It makes you wonder who 'owned' the face before....
And that little detached piece of skin that used to be someone's real face is a great answer to the 'machineflesh' brief.
And who's painting the machine...? Another machine...? Or a person who's still lucky enough to have a face...?
Nice work...
And good luck...
shawnalanpeters
06-16-2004, 07:46 PM
you know... that's funny..I didn't realy think of the consiquence if a human was painting the image...but was my thought. maybe the artist is next.. I have to think about that one.
and I have to add.. I never participated in a forum before..and it is really cool how everyone is coming together as we come close to the end.. I look forward to seeing and sharing more work with you and the other artists on this forum.. it has been a fun and inspiring ride.. It has given me a a reason to ignore my lazinees and paint for myself after doing it for someone else all day.
I was really getting stale... this is going to be a great ...ongoing outlet. Thanks for all your input and appreciation.:thumbsup:
and I have to add.. I never participated in a forum before..and it is really cool how everyone is coming together as we come close to the end.. I look forward to seeing and sharing more work with you and the other artists on this forum.. it has been a fun and inspiring ride.. It has given me a a reason to ignore my lazinees and paint for myself after doing it for someone else all day.
I was really getting stale... this is going to be a great ...ongoing outlet. Thanks for all your input and appreciation.:thumbsup:
duddlebug
06-16-2004, 07:52 PM
That's exactly how i feel about the forum... it's great having the feedback and encouragement. It really motivates me to get stuff done. And it'll be a great place for submitting personal work for crits from other artists.
That was the reason i participated in this contest... a kick up the butt to get on with stuff i'd been meaning to do.
Which reminds me... i've got a whole ton of colouring to do!!!
I'll come back to look at the finished image!! I'm looking forward to it...
That was the reason i participated in this contest... a kick up the butt to get on with stuff i'd been meaning to do.
Which reminds me... i've got a whole ton of colouring to do!!!
I'll come back to look at the finished image!! I'm looking forward to it...
duddlebug
06-16-2004, 07:54 PM
And i forgot to mention... it's great to see other artists' work... especially at this standard... really inspiring.
I reckon it's gonna be tricky being a judge!!
I reckon it's gonna be tricky being a judge!!
Tremoside
06-16-2004, 11:13 PM
Hi shawnalanpeters,
congrats for your style. tha sight is perfect!!! go go go for the final!!!!
Cya
congrats for your style. tha sight is perfect!!! go go go for the final!!!!
Cya
shawnalanpeters
06-17-2004, 12:23 AM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/2695/2695_1087428196_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/2695/2695_1087428196_large.jpg)
I forgot to post this...this my brush set up ..that covers every brush I use and have mastered...since PS4. I was looking at duddlebugs screen grabs..and relized how cool it was to see someone elses set up...especially brushes...I should of thought of that a long time ago...thanks duddlebug!
I forgot to post this...this my brush set up ..that covers every brush I use and have mastered...since PS4. I was looking at duddlebugs screen grabs..and relized how cool it was to see someone elses set up...especially brushes...I should of thought of that a long time ago...thanks duddlebug!
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