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flyingP
03-21-2004, 09:27 AM
Brian Read has entered the Machineflesh 2D Challenge.

JamesMK
03-21-2004, 09:49 AM
My first seat booked in the 2D section.

/me puts up his feet and boots the popcorn microwave oven

flyingP
03-21-2004, 12:51 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/2600/2600_1079873474_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/2600/2600_1079873474_large.jpg)

Really just playing around at the moment but it's a start.

Sort of saw this guy walking around some aliens world deserts taping the resources of double suns. It's carrying a water nutrient mix on its back for a long stay in the desert. The solar panels not only collect energy but provide shade. The tail doubles as a storage battery. That umbrella thingy is too stop it's brain getting fried.
When the battery is full it wanders back to one of the many down load station's dotted around the landscape, sticks it's head in a socket and dumps it's load (um.. so to speak)

JamesMK
03-21-2004, 01:01 PM
Oh boy... Let me tell you like this - the most honest possible response is my spontaneous reaction the first second of exposure to this sketch; and that was a very wide smile, with a twist of coyote grin.

The only thing that doesn't seem right, in my humble mind, is the anti-brainfry umbrella... Though I see the humour factor in it, but it also breaks away from the style in the rest of the concept. So I guess the idea is good, though it might need to be implemented differently to blend in properly.

All in all - fricking awesome if you ask me. The humongous scale is very appealing too.

flyingP
03-21-2004, 01:08 PM
Originally posted by JamesMK
[BThe only thing that doesn't seem right, in my humble mind, is the anti-brainfry umbrella... Though I see the humour factor in it, but it also breaks away from the style in the rest of the concept. So I guess the idea is good, though it might need to be implemented differently to blend in properly[/B]

I suppose "wabbit" ears would look at bit strange too, but you're right, was just mucking around with that one, :D

JamesMK
03-21-2004, 01:13 PM
No no no, wabbit ears are always in style, dammit :D

But I gave it some more thought while washing the dishes here - and I envisioned an umbrella looking like that cliché'd mexican hat type thing with colorful balls hanging down in strings attached along the rim... Combine that with large and kind of airhead-looking eyes and you've got something really weird to play with.

flyingP
03-21-2004, 03:00 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/2600/2600_1079881237_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/2600/2600_1079881237_large.jpg)

just having some fun with this one

JamesMK
03-21-2004, 03:55 PM
Mwaahhaaa! That's just the greatest concept! And the eyes are perfect like that.

Atwooki
03-21-2004, 06:53 PM
Oh boy, Brian!
This is just amazing :)
Love the concept, chiefly for its simplicity and humour; not to mention your drawing style, which is something else as well....

Magnificent!

- always loved your avatar also BTW ;)

Atwooki

cobalt1410
03-21-2004, 07:10 PM
Really love the concept. so different to everything else I have seen so far.

If you can keep that feel right through its going to be amazing. I can't wait to see it develope.

Good luck.

flyingP
03-21-2004, 07:12 PM
Hmmm... maybe I should go with the chicken, at least I'll try a few more concepts in that direction as well, just for a laugh if nothing else.

And many thanks for the compliment Chris, "really" like what you've come up with yourself. :beer:

JamesMK
03-22-2004, 08:43 AM
Could find the exact thing I was looking for, because I don't know the name of those blasted birds I was thinking about - but here's something like what I was talking about yesterday::..

http://berlinbear.com/cascade.gifs/hippowithbird.jpg

hdri
03-22-2004, 10:17 AM
Your first sketch is a very interesting concept: I think you could develop the idea of an animal able to store energy and download it. Perhaps you coudl inspire in real animals that do so in nature, and evolve the concept to make possible big amounts of energy. I spetially like the way organic and battery-like forms are living togheter so naturally.

flyingP
03-22-2004, 11:13 AM
@ James : CLASSIC !! :D

@ HDRI
I think you could develop the idea of an animal able to store energy and download it. Perhaps you coudl inspire in real animals that do so in nature

Just occured to me you know that'd would be great when going camping, you could just sort of plug your TV/radio/electric cooker into a handy squirrel or something. :D

bombproof
03-22-2004, 07:36 PM
i love these drawings!!! its so funeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!

enzo

flyingP
03-22-2004, 09:43 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/2600/2600_1079991796_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/2600/2600_1079991796_large.jpg)

just getting this out of my system before I get too far further

JamesMK
03-22-2004, 09:56 PM
Ah, yes, it's a duckified battle-helmet! I see it clearly now, that little head boinging about as the big fellow stomps around in the neighbourhood.

*sproing sproing*

Wabbit says: A-OK! :thumbsup:

duddlebug
03-23-2004, 10:08 AM
The big desert beastie is great!!

And i've gotta disagree on the anti-fry umbrella... i think it makes sense. And it contrasts with all the mechanical gubbins. The detail on the back is nice too. And the feet have lots of 'weight'. I think the battery might be a little over-long. It looks like he might get a bit unbalanced if there's any weight to it. And batteries are usually pretty heavy...

The chicken's fun!!

WHat's the helmet for...? The solar beastie?

flyingP
03-23-2004, 10:13 AM
Originally posted by duddlebug
WHat's the helmet for...? The solar beastie?

not actually a helmet that :surprised , bit of a long story but James got me on to laundry last night :scream:

duddlebug
03-23-2004, 10:23 AM
oh...ok :)

flyingP
03-23-2004, 10:33 AM
Originally posted by duddlebug
oh...ok :)

Yeah.... not sure I understand it myself come to think of it :) , haven't really had much time to get into this fully yet... hopefully over the coming weekend... at the moment I'm just playing, although I am considering taking the first concept further so thanks for making those points you did before.

cheers

JamesMK
03-23-2004, 10:37 AM
The way I figure it, it's got something to do with shorts... o_O

But it was never reliably confirmed. For the concepts, I hope this will all blend together somehow, forming the mother of all concepts (or the divine right hand of the righteous playstation gamepad).

I'd say chickens are IN! And big solarpowered beasts. Woo000!

flyingP
03-23-2004, 09:53 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/2600/2600_1080078793_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/2600/2600_1080078793_large.jpg)

Just playing a bit with the over all design at the moment

duddlebug
03-24-2004, 08:57 AM
I prefer the tail ( but where did the lower side solar panels go?)...but i think it's got a bit too much on its back now...but that's probably just me.

and i miss the umbrella!! :)

flyingP
03-24-2004, 10:05 AM
Thanks mate, no it's not just you after looking at it again I was getting the much the same feeling, although I do think I'll keep the tail set up (or something similar).... and OK I'll give some tought to the umbrella again:D

Cheers,

Brian

porla113
03-24-2004, 12:22 PM
I love your hen,cool Idea man:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

JamesMK
03-24-2004, 12:27 PM
Hmm. I actually agree that the umbrella was a neat detail after all :D

I love that huge V8-engine lookalike construct on top. Massive.

flyingP
03-24-2004, 08:23 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/2600/2600_1080159788_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/2600/2600_1080159788_large.jpg)

Still playing with this, It's now a mixture of the first two with a few extra changes... I'm not too happy with those solar cells but I'll get on to those later.... also want to change the perspective slightly later this thing is "supposed" to look big.

Tommy Lee
03-25-2004, 05:41 AM
Yeah the first idea is the way to go. Excellent concept:thumbsup:

Cheerz:beer:

Tommy Lee

flyingP
03-25-2004, 08:38 AM
Thanks Tommy.
Still 3 months is a long time, I think I might just see what else I can come up with before making any final decision.... still haven't ruled out that chicken either, thanks porla113. :D

lmc
03-25-2004, 09:32 AM
pretty nice sketch n concept...hopefully tis can be in 3d gallery :p

flyingP
03-25-2004, 10:50 AM
Originally posted by lmc
hopefully tis can be in 3d gallery :p

Thanks Imc, although it'll be a pretty neat trick if this does turn up in the 3D gallery as I've only entered in the 2D section of this challenge... I might just have a bash at modeling it after all this is over though.

cheers.

flyingP
03-26-2004, 03:53 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/2600/2600_1080316413_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/2600/2600_1080316413_large.jpg)

still trying to think of a story for this guy, I'm just brainstorming at the moment, although I kind of like this one.

flyingP
03-26-2004, 05:56 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/2600/2600_1080323759_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/2600/2600_1080323759_large.jpg)

just refining the sketch a bit further

flyingP
03-26-2004, 06:41 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/2600/2600_1080326510_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/2600/2600_1080326510_large.jpg)

just trying something a bit darker

JamesMK
03-26-2004, 09:15 PM
Well, I do like the 'dark' version a lot - but then that was only to be expected :)

The hands/paddles are magnificent and the body as a whole seems well balanced. I somehow get the feeling that this creature is related to anglerfish... might be a thought...

The tail needs a better/more defined design perhaps.

The hippo version works well too if you want the humourous approach - but if I could choose, I'd go for the scary one.

Thinking deep-sea here, perhaps with self-luminous features...

flyingP
03-26-2004, 09:32 PM
Originally posted by JamesMK
I somehow get the feeling that this creature is related to anglerfish... might be a thought...

Thanks James, yeah the anglerfish was sort going through my head as I was doing the teeth, kinda happy that came across. :)

And I already have a few more ideas for an alternative tail.

Chances are that I'll still go back to the firts idea, but at the moment I am enjoying playing around with the ideas, and curious to see where it takes me.


Cheers

Tommy Lee
03-27-2004, 10:01 AM
Every concept till now is a way to sucsess... Damn your creative mind...just kidding.

Love your work man.:thumbsup:

flyingP
03-27-2004, 11:51 AM
back at ya Tommy, Humpy and the Mad Hatter are looking damn cool too. :beer:

flyingP
03-27-2004, 11:52 AM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/2600/2600_1080388338_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/2600/2600_1080388338_large.jpg)

I won't enter this as a colouring wip milestone at the moment as I am still working on the design, gives me something to come back to though should I decide to go with it.
to be honest it's been a while since I have used Painter so I'm using this to get some much needed practice in.

Friedric P
03-27-2004, 12:18 PM
Wow! Looking good, I like it! :thumbsup:
Your coloring skills are announcing some nice artworks... :)

Just one think, I know it's still sketch, but the right hand/paddle is "touching" the back reactors, resulting in a loss of lisibility in this area. Well, that's just a detail ^_^

Cheers! Keep it up! :applause:

JamesMK
03-27-2004, 02:19 PM
Damn... I can't come up with anything bad to say about it :D
...maybe slightly bigger eyes? That's a stretch though on my behalf.

The "warty" skin, the samurai-ish hair floating around, the gory integration between mech/flesh armparts... it's all excellent.
The yellow coverplate (I assume?) device on the back is great - for some strange reason I have a soft spot for smooth yellow machineparts... don't ask why, for I have no idea.

Just keep at it in this direction, pig. :D

flyingP
03-27-2004, 02:48 PM
Originally posted by JamesMK
for some strange reason I have a soft spot for smooth yellow machineparts... don't ask why, for I have no idea.D

That's weird wabbit, me too, not quite sure why either,
hmmmm...... I sense some deeeeep psychological stuff here :scream:


@Friedric P you're quite right about the hand/paddle by the way, but I have a few new plans for the tail which should fix that, I'm just too damn lazy to do them at the moment :D

AirbORn
03-27-2004, 04:36 PM
VEry sweet Design! I can't wait to see the final. Great job on the colours too! The flesh and metal really do sit well with each other.

vincentvv
03-27-2004, 08:08 PM
..orj Coolish allready
and still so many days left..
:thumbsup:

flyingP
03-27-2004, 08:41 PM
@AirbORn: cheers

@vincent_v: Looking forward to an update on yours :bounce:

Tommy Lee
03-28-2004, 05:18 AM
:bowdown:

crazybread
03-28-2004, 05:25 AM
your last post is a rrreally good idea. I just love his Jaws!

:buttrock:

jud
03-29-2004, 10:37 AM
I love this kind of painting/drawing,reminds me of the work of simon bisley from 2000AD who drew characters like slaine and the always cool ABC warriors,great stuff altogether,cant wait to see more.

jud

flyingP
03-29-2004, 11:30 AM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/2600/2600_1080559853_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/2600/2600_1080559853_large.jpg)

I've added back legs as I was wanting to get a bit more flesh in, and I was considering this guy being active on land as well as in the water. The tail has turned into a sort fold away fan/fin, althogh I'm stilll working on that.
I think for the next step I'll try and find a more dynamic pose for this guy.

And thanks for the comments so far guys!

JamesMK
03-29-2004, 12:33 PM
Back legs is a great addition! I love that huge fin-like tail as well - I can picture it having some sort of long whirly ribbons with lots of colour swooshing around behind him into the distant background even. You know, colourful stuff in underwater dynamics/turbulence thingy, somewhat chinese, like newly dyed cotton sheets saffron crimson red hanging from lines across tall stuctures, flapping gently in the wind....

Tommy Lee
03-29-2004, 12:43 PM
Awesome... u going bigtime:thumbsup:

Cheerz and keep em coming:beer:

flyingP
03-29-2004, 05:25 PM
@ JamesMK: I still think you've been drinking my beer :D

@Tommy: Danke! Du aber auch :beer:

No votes for the hippo though? :cry:

JamesMK
03-29-2004, 05:35 PM
Meh... naaah, hippo is teh sux0rs :D

Nirlin
03-29-2004, 05:58 PM
I can't wait for the "more dynamic pose" (he looks a bit dead right now, I'd say if I dared, but I did not :p). Your work is amazing so far. :applause:
I'd like to make a more constructive reply, but I just don't find anything else to tell ^^

flyingP
03-29-2004, 06:28 PM
Originally posted by Nirlin
he looks a bit dead right now

Hahaha, actually you are right, I was looking at it earlier again myself and had the feeling it looked a bit like a fossil. :D

Is just a fast view at the moment for working up ideas

Cheers.

Nirlin
03-29-2004, 07:39 PM
Usually science starts its studies with "harmless" subjects (i.e : dead :p) Then it proceeds to the living samples.

Oh my... You're a scientist ! :p

AirbORn
03-29-2004, 07:41 PM
Kick ass, the tail variation looks awsome!!

MadMim
03-29-2004, 07:55 PM
you have some interesting concept mechanical structures here. i like the tail fin on this fellow. will this creature bear colorful markings? iam curious. :)

Virtuoso
03-29-2004, 08:49 PM
flyingp...............Just wanted to drop by and say I think alot of your work.The style/feel are right up my alley.Very nice intermingling of flesh and machine.

A dynamic pose will do even more of course.But as it stands a very enjoyable piece of work,very nice design.:cool: :beer:

JamesMK
03-29-2004, 11:01 PM
For the final pose and view.... I picture it like he has just been swimming away from the "camera", but he picks up your scent in the water, turns around, and rushes speedily straight at you - do you see his long body sort of making an arc through the image?

mosconariz
03-30-2004, 01:50 AM
This is a great design, hope you choose a great pose too!!:thumbsup:

flyingP
03-30-2004, 07:31 AM
Hey guys thanks for the reply's.

@MadMim: I hadn't thought that far yet, but I do like the idea. so I'll have a play with that, thanks.

@Virtuoso: "Many many thanks" I really appreciate the compliment, cheers :beer:

@JamesMK and mosconariz

I'll be seeing just how dynamic a pose I do/can make with this, I do not want to lose to much detail through a "too" dynamic pose, actually as far as I understand the brief the pose is kind of irrelevant it's the design and the play between flesh and machine that should have the emphasis (that is at least my interpretation) , still I see what I can come up with, I'm enjoying this :D

Cheers,

Brian

duddlebug
03-30-2004, 07:49 AM
I like the hippo!!

bUt then i would...i really liked the umbrella on your big desert fella.

But i also like t'other one...The tail particularly and the flippers are great. They look like mechanical versions of real amphibious or sea creatures.

I think the head could possibly be longer or taller. It seems to be a bit abrupt (i'm not trying to get you back to the longer hippo version, honest!!). And if you say it'll walk on land too, it seems too dense to turn 90 degrees if he's stood upright.

It'll be good to some more poses...looking great so far...

flyingP
03-30-2004, 08:55 AM
Yaaaayy!! a vote for the hippo :D :bounce:

Thanks for the points on the head too I was planning to try a few things with that. Also thinking about increasing the fromnt arm length and hand size slightly.

As to his movement on land I as thinking on all 4 hands/feet so no upright stance, the tail would get in the way.

cheers

ufotung
03-30-2004, 10:23 AM
The colour version is great , also your design is marvelous .
Those legs seem real functional ~
:thumbsup:

hdri
03-30-2004, 04:09 PM
Hi, FlyingP! First of all, thanx for your feedback; your oppinion is very important to me, you help me alot with my concepts. So this is my turn, ... Since the very first time I loved your first idea of the battery dino; I see you've evolved into a different way. OK, it is also nice. I it very nice to see the evolution of your concepts from the hippo to this taily weird thing (wich I do Looove). IMO, you're reaching to a very interesting character, mixing so many concepts on it.

flyingP
03-30-2004, 06:25 PM
Thanks hdri and hope I wasn't too hard in my critic before just those first sketches of yours are DAMN COOL!.

I've really been appreciating all the feedback from you guys as well, so keep em coming.

Cheers,

Brian
:beer:

SideAche
03-30-2004, 06:58 PM
Excellent work flyingP. My personal favorites are the first and last. I can see in your work that you really love this stuff, love of drawing I mean. I'm still fairly new to this place and it's great to see work that has a lot of personality. I'm looking forward toseeing the paint process.

Tommy Lee
03-31-2004, 05:42 AM
Same here: The first and last are excellent!!!!:thumbsup:
I struggle between both of them. Love both and both have there pros and contras... damn my feeble brain:D

Cheerz:beer:

flyingP
03-31-2004, 07:17 AM
Thanks guys, I will be going with the last one though I think, unless I just happen to think of anything better that is.

As to the love of drawing SideAche with this sort of material definitly. :)

flyingP
03-31-2004, 07:31 AM
Thanks guys, I will be going with the second one though I think, unless I just happen to think of anything better that is.

As to the love of drawing SideAche with this sort of material definitly. :)

EDiT: sorry for the double post guys

bonestudio
03-31-2004, 09:55 AM
You have some very funny design here ! Lots of differnet stuff yet.

I'm curious of what will be your final choice

wuensch
03-31-2004, 12:17 PM
Very good stuff---
Have to dive into all the other entries, but I like the grain of humor in them.
Love the first one, its my favourite---
Would be nice in 3d--I know I know
Olli

flyingP
04-01-2004, 10:22 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/2600/2600_1080858122_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/2600/2600_1080858122_large.jpg)

Don't suppose if anyone knows if these entries can be in Landscape format do they. Doesn't matter I'll try and fit this guy to a into a portrait format, still needs a bit of work until I'm happy with it though. All the same an update. Any feedback would be appreciated.

Cheers.

JamesMK
04-01-2004, 10:24 PM
You know I would love to find something to complain about, but it's just so insanely beautiful I'm getting all teary-eyed over here (honestly - it's f***ing brilliant!)

Now be gone, evil one! :D

BloodTaster
04-02-2004, 03:19 AM
Great sketchs!! the last is awesome!

SideAche
04-02-2004, 04:38 AM
Great stuff! Can't wait to see the one you settle on to finish! Keep it up bud:applause:

flyingP
04-02-2004, 06:39 AM
Thanks guys, I appreciate the feedback.
I am however still not quite so happy with the pose at the moment myself, And I am still giving some thought to my first concept, so if I can get a composition on our friend here with flippers that I am happy with, I think I might just go back and take that first concept a bit further before making any "real" final decision.
:beer:

AirbORn
04-02-2004, 07:03 AM
Dude, your last drawing is great. I love the composition! When will you start on colour again? :)

flyingP
04-02-2004, 08:06 AM
Thanks AirbORn, just not quite happy myself with the composition there's time so I'd like to see if I can improve it a bit, then I'll look at doing some more colour work.

cheers

tedjel
04-02-2004, 08:29 AM
:buttrock: regarding the composition: what if the guy is coming at us, arms infront, ready to grab the "thing" he's after. Kind of like a tiger jumping at his prey. This would fill the top of the frame- put him at an angle- and at the bottom, kind of blurred, the pry, with a scared expression...
Just a thought- it's great now the way you have it anyway.

flyingP
04-02-2004, 08:41 AM
thanks tedjel, trouble is the more I turn him into the camera the more detail I'll be covering up with his upper body which would be sort of counterproductive, for that reason I'm trying to stay as side on as possible. What I am thinking is pulling that tail towards the top left corner, I had conceived it as being flexible so it shouldn't look to strange,
and maybe banking his upper body slightly so that is left shoulder drops down -- not sure if that's clear.

If that doesn't work I can always try filling in a bit of the negative space with some colour work :shrug:

bonestudio
04-02-2004, 08:49 AM
lot of energy in that last composition !

Perhaps you could add more perspective to the scene, like the creature come to us, with the mouth open this could be quite frightening :)

hdri
04-02-2004, 09:03 AM
Hi, Brian: I like the last pose; it's very dynanic. But I also liked the older version, it ressembles fossiles; it would've been a nice idea to render it in that way, like carved int stone. For the new pose, I would put it a long long thin curled tail; it may be very helpfull for the composition. Don't you think the torso is a bit confusing- still not clear the design?
On the other hand, the creature is great, and very original. I can't wait to see colour wip's.

flyingP
04-02-2004, 09:14 AM
Originally posted by hdri
Don't you think the torso is a bit confusing- still not clear the design?
:D He he, not quite 100% no

To be honest I liked the fossil look too, just that I am still not sure about the final format this has to be presented in which is why I'm trying to fit him into a portrait format as well (just in case).
It's all making for good practice anyway.

:beer:

dloots
04-02-2004, 10:00 AM
Really dig your style can't wait for the final image

Good luck

AirbORn
04-02-2004, 02:41 PM
You know what?

After looking at your last drawing once again, the combination between the flesh and machince components, they really do sit well together. Just though I'd comment on that aswell. :bounce:

flyingP
04-02-2004, 04:16 PM
Thanks AirbORn :) .
In the meantime I think I may just have thought of a way to get a slight bit of humour into this as well, I'll get into that later though.

Cheers

mosconariz
04-02-2004, 05:34 PM
About the size, I found in the Questions Thread (http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=130043&perpage=15&pagenumber=11) this:

My image size is actually 3796x6220.
I read somewhere that it must be 3636x2675 or 2675x3636.
If this is exact, i must change my image size and composition to fit the correct size, no?

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Yes.

So, It seems you can make it in portrait or in landscape format... It's up to you, but whatever you choose It will be great :thumbsup:

About the last image, I would prefer more perspective too... :beer:

flyingP
04-02-2004, 05:37 PM
mosconariz :thumbsup:
many many thanks for that info.

:beer:

SideAche
04-02-2004, 06:46 PM
Love your line work bud. Very inspiring!!!

olidale
04-03-2004, 12:15 PM
i really like the swimming thing in such an active pose, the way you've drawn it gives a real feel of movement, and makes the machine parts look really part of the body.

love your style of drawing too

Tommy Lee
04-03-2004, 04:18 PM
Originally posted by olidale
i really like the swimming thing in such an active pose, the way you've drawn it gives a real feel of movement, and makes the machine parts look really part of the body.

love your style of drawing too

Yes... thats absolutly right. And do it in Landscape-format... for this image absolutly necessary(<--spelling?):thumbsup:

Cheerz buddy:beer:

flyingP
04-03-2004, 05:37 PM
Originally posted by Tommy Lee
... necessary(<--spelling?):thumbsup:


It's correct :thumbsup:

Actually I think I can get away with the portrait, but thanks, I'm in the process of doing a colour test on that sketch but are going a bit slow at the moment (it is the weekend :D ) , next week may well be full too ( will find that out Monday) so it could be a while until the next update.

Get on to yours though I am dying to know what this third sick character will be. :bounce:

flyingP
04-04-2004, 07:38 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/2600/2600_1081103910_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/2600/2600_1081103910_large.jpg)

It's colour and it's a WIP so I guess it counts as a milestone, although I am still not to 100% sure with the pose I don't find so bad anymore now that colour has been added. I have however decided to go with this concept though.
Would love to hear your thoughts.

Cheers

JamesMK
04-04-2004, 07:52 PM
[austrian accent=on]Zo, I zee zose yellof bitz ztill in ze zenter of attention, yez? *chuckle chuckle*[austrian accent=off]

Looking good. The pose works very well, and I'd say a little bit of that fossil sense from the landscape version is back in again too.

Squibbit
04-04-2004, 08:37 PM
wow this pic instantly made me go back
and view through the whole thread .

great ideas , designs , skills , all :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

BloodTaster
04-05-2004, 03:45 AM
Wow!! Great colors coming!:thumbsup:

mosconariz
04-05-2004, 05:23 AM
:bounce: Great, keep on in this line!

AirbORn
04-05-2004, 08:03 AM
Great start on the colours :buttrock:

Kepe it up!

bonestudio
04-05-2004, 10:38 AM
Great wip !!! We really can feel the flesh :thumbsup:

Even if I think you could choose a better composition, this will be a very good one !!!

flyingP
04-05-2004, 12:25 PM
Originally posted by bonestudio
Even if I think you could choose a better composition
Yep I am still giving that one some thought.

Thanks for the feedback guys.

:beer:

Solomon
04-05-2004, 04:47 PM
like it - I do
keep track of it, I shall

may the creative force be with you

BaronVonWink
04-06-2004, 01:02 PM
You have some serious skillz! this is coming out really nice- this pose is much better than the side view, it has much more motion and depth. What software do you use? PS?

later!

flyingP
04-06-2004, 01:15 PM
Originally posted by BaronVonWink
You have some serious skillz! this is coming out really nice- this pose is much better than the side view, it has much more motion and depth. What software do you use? PS?

later!

Thanks. :D

I'm using Painter 6 on this, and although I have to admit to being a bit out of practice with it I'm enjoying it, I don't "normally" sketch with it, but then I don't normally do this sort of picture either (sadly).

borderland
04-06-2004, 01:46 PM
I really like that even though it's partly-machine, this design has fluidity and life. The machinery is adding to the character and not weighing it down.
Maybe you could try making one of it's limbs force the perspective - coming out towards the viewer and creating a large foreground element. Just an idea though. Nice work.

Atwooki
04-06-2004, 02:16 PM
flyingP:
That's looking AMAZING!!! can't help but feel those beautiful wings could be a little bigger, but the pose and the base coloring are fantastic; so is the concept, very 'Daedulus/Icarus' in a pteradactyl sense :D
Can't quite figure out the other leg as yet, but I guess that's to come. Nice one :)

Atwooki

flyingP
04-06-2004, 02:26 PM
Wings :surprised, sorry Atwooki wrong element, either that or I really need to go back to the drawing board, although yeah I suppose the pose does sort of call Icarus to mind on his way down. :D

Atwooki
04-06-2004, 02:35 PM
Jeez, sorry flyingP;
don't even KNOW where 'flight thing' came from - is it worth editing my post? who knows..... :)
Nonrtheless, great concept! Watching and waiting eagerly for more ;)

Atwooki

flyingP
04-06-2004, 02:43 PM
Mate nothing to be sorry for, actually I quite like the Icarus idea, although I believe someone is already on to that idea, sorry I have lost track of who, there is just too much work to follow in here.

I'm still following yours as well, just your 3D skills are just a wee bit more advanced than mine so there is not a lot I have been able to comment on. It's looking good though and is still one of my favourite concepts in here. :thumbsup:

cleptocat
04-06-2004, 03:48 PM
Nice sketch quality. A lot of fun here. Need some under lighting on that last one though just to give some dimension

Fadao
04-07-2004, 03:09 AM
Wonderfull P
:beer:

Virtuoso
04-07-2004, 11:23 AM
Flying P...............This last "milestone" is just wild.So rich with activity.It's just alive.The skills are there big time.But equal to the skills is the all important style and design,the essence.................Sometimes all the skills in the World cannot be enough without style and vision.....Luckily you have it all.Sure would be great to create this in 3D someday...............:love:

Keep on with this wonderful work.:buttrock: :beer:

flyingP
04-07-2004, 11:53 AM
Thanks Virtuoso , although I can see comments like leaving me with a very over inflated ego :blush: .

As to building it in 3D....well yes I have already started for myself, although it may well be miles beyond my current skill level.

@ cleptocat yep agree with you on the lighting.

@ Fadao many thanks :)

at the moment I'm working on a more refined line version, which "I hope" I will have time to post later today.

Cheers

flyingP
04-07-2004, 04:51 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/2600/2600_1081353087_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/2600/2600_1081353087_large.jpg)

Not quite finished with this but it's pretty close.
And now bit of a background story (sorry I am no copywriter). So a typical theme first but it fits,
Earth a couple of hundred thousand years in the future global warming and see levels that rose dramatically covering the almost all land have forced Mankind to adapt to a life underwater. Some of this adaptation has been of a biological nature, which is why our friend is is such an ugly sod, other adaptations, mechanical.
Apart from physical changes however mankind's society has still remained pretty much the same, we see here for example Mr. "S", 42 years of age, accountant, father of 2, enjoying his lunch break. (hence the collar and tie in case anyone was wondering).
Sorry I just felt I had to get some sort of lighter side in this (or have I really been putting too much sugar in my coffee :D ) . Any thoughts ?

JamesMK
04-07-2004, 08:29 PM
Extremely neato! And the story actually makes sense now :D That's some very clean linework... hmmm... bastard....

Excellent camel fleas too! Looks like at least four of them, almost an invasion :D

flyingP
04-08-2004, 03:42 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/2600/2600_1081435355_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/2600/2600_1081435355_large.jpg)

just setting up the background colours, I trying for something watery without getting into any real detail. It is also likely to change in places as I start on the final colouring of the figure.

cheers.

bonestudio
04-08-2004, 05:48 PM
your last lineart is almost perfect ! what a sense of details :)

Nice background I love the mood in it

vincentvv
04-08-2004, 06:49 PM
.. really like the "thinking color" pic...its cool that there is still some sketchy loose pen kind off style in the pic...at the head. The background where a fish(?) thing starting to appear, looks cool..
Only thing is the flesh part; it could look like its some kind of shirt the creature is wearing, at the albow.
But thats a minor flaw, dosnt make the pic looks bad at all, just makes you wonder abit:)
But all in all::applause:

flyingP
04-08-2004, 07:04 PM
Originally posted by vincent_v
..its cool that there is still some sketchy loose pen kind off style in the pic...at the head. The background where a fish(?) thing starting to appear, looks cool..

:D Yeah well they sort of called for line work, and to be honest I wouldn't normally take it that far as I tend to like to draw with colour too, figured the fish wasn't so important just now so I'll finish him in colour.
By the way what's up with your entry that first sketch blew me away, I want to see more :bounce:

@ bonestudio : :thumbsup:


Edit: good point with the arm/clothing comment, I'll keep an eye on that! :thumbsup:

vincentvv
04-08-2004, 07:51 PM
..well im just freaking love those lines; they really shows an artist` skills....but i guess u shouldnt keepem just for my sakes hehe
Having 3-4 favorits in this contest(2d), urs is one of `em

Im having a "period" for the time being...im getting depressed just looking at my pics ...still, gonna upload some color thingie to day or tommorow...(thx for asking btw)

flyingP
04-08-2004, 07:58 PM
Originally posted by vincent_v
Im having a "period" for the time being...im getting depressed just looking at my pics ...still, gonna upload some color thingie to day or tommorow...(thx for asking btw)

Mate you have got to be kidding me, that first one was bloody brilliant, and really showed that you know what you are doing so let's se some updates!!!! :bounce:

monsitj
04-09-2004, 01:56 AM
your line art is very cool! and I know your color skill is great too! can't wait to see more:bounce:

Squibbit
04-09-2004, 02:52 AM
fp , sir... you're so good that if you're posting something
like a smudgy blue background ... you lettin us down or
just wanted to post something ?

though I gotta admit it still looks good , kinda like a
handkrchief ,unless you were just blotching carelessly
(which is what I do) ,and then you would become
an olive

k, it just looks good but I wanna see more :)

SideAche
04-09-2004, 06:59 AM
I'm really liking your stuff. It's good to hear that someone else is still using Painter 6.

flyingP
04-09-2004, 08:21 AM
Originally posted by Squibbit
fp , sir... you're so good that if you're posting something
like a smudgy blue background ... you lettin us down or
just wanted to post something ?
No....not really, this is a WIP contest after all, the intention being as I understand it that we show each other more or less how we work. Laying down these colours is for "me" a first and important step, and has an effect on how I colour the main elements, not trying to disappoint anyone. :)

@ SideAche Yep painter 6 more or less does what I want so I've sort of stayed with it, same with photoshop which I am also still using in the 6 version, I am going to have to update them soon though sadly, as I'd rather like to use them on my G5.

P.S. "very much" like your workflow on your pictures too :thumbsup:

Squibbit
04-09-2004, 10:24 AM
ahh , well said dude:bowdown:

flyingP
04-09-2004, 09:02 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/2600/2600_1081540933_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/2600/2600_1081540933_large.jpg)

starting into the fleshy bits, here's a detail this time.
cheers.

JamesMK
04-09-2004, 09:35 PM
Neato! Nice to see it more up close too...

Let me see if I get this correctly - being a 2D challenged guy :D - this would more or less correspond to the low-level layer of diffuse color, simply the raw, rudimentary lit (more or less) basic color of the intended material itself? With some occlusion going on though - - - kind of a colour blocking phase - and then the rest of the stuff comes on top later on, like highlights, detailed shading etcetera?

Sorta?

flyingP
04-09-2004, 10:00 PM
yep "sorta", some detail has been added to the head, but yeah the rest I suppose you could say is blocking. :D

JamesMK
04-09-2004, 10:02 PM
Wabbit satisfied with reply and hops away (a bit heavily today because of all the eggs - dreading the time they have to be pooped out, which is soon)...

flyingP
04-09-2004, 10:09 PM
Eeeeeuuuwwwww, that's the last egg I'll be eating, thanks James. :surprised

vincentvv
04-09-2004, 11:18 PM
Yia yia...the head look awesome...and the flesh thing`s really starting to look like flesh...about coloring this piece, i was thinking about what color things under water have...but close up i gues skin actually have skincolor..or??
Maybe it depends on how deep the water is...

flyingP
04-09-2004, 11:23 PM
Originally posted by vincent_v
about coloring this piece, i was thinking about what color things under water have...but close up i gues skin actually have skincolor..or??

Funny you should mention that I was initially going for a more greyed out colour tone, then the red starting creeping, just feeling my way through this at the moment, so it's open to change.

:beer:

vincentvv
04-09-2004, 11:50 PM
Isnt this sweet?
...thinking this one is about 6-7 feet down

http://www.brianskerry.com/images2/mammals/Beluga-Vertical.jpg

pinokeo
04-10-2004, 03:24 AM
i think ur amazingly talented keep the good work

AirbORn
04-10-2004, 05:29 AM
Nice start on the colouring. :) I cant' wait to see more!

flyingP
04-10-2004, 08:35 AM
Thanks vincent_v , although that my be a bit too grey, I was kind of thinking more Walrus myself, I'll be bringing the background colours back in in places too, all still very open at the moment.

@ pinokeo I'd have some doubts about that myself but thanks :)

@ AirbORn I'm working on it but in the meantime I've a few other things to finish before I'll have time to continue, sadly.

thanks guys.

:beer:

Haven
04-10-2004, 09:22 AM
Looking very nice. Well nice might not be the best word cause I hope I never meet that guy when I go swimming, hehe.

I like your colors and that you're able to mix many to get your skin tone. Since you have caught some nice greens in your flesh tones, you may want to throw a little more green into all of that blue and I think it will get more the feeling of water and that he is in the water and not just in front of it.

viag
04-10-2004, 10:15 AM
woo didnt sse you started color , its really nice ! i want more :thumbsup:

flyingP
04-10-2004, 11:11 AM
Originally posted by Haven
I think it will get more the feeling of water and that he is in the water and not just in front of it.

Very well put :D actually I am surprised that that hasn't been commented on before, but yeah I will be going back and blending him a bit more into the surrounding colours, which I would also like to warm up a bit, well see.

:beer:

theuni
04-10-2004, 01:30 PM
Hi,

nice work so far, I like the deamon touch of this guy.

flyingP
04-11-2004, 08:26 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/2600/2600_1081711577_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/2600/2600_1081711577_large.jpg)

it's a bit dark at the moment (won't be staying like that), but I'm brining in some more colour into the shadows and are working in some detail.

Cheers

JamesMK
04-12-2004, 12:38 AM
Good progress, dude - I'd say there's some interesting stuff going on right where the flesh will interface with the mechanical bits... a hint of gooey slimy tissue.... I like gooey slimy tissue...

NinjaA55N
04-12-2004, 11:20 AM
Damn... just dont know what to say, what to critisize, what to suggest... on that phase I'll just sign on ur thread to make sure I dont miss a thing :)

Piolla
04-13-2004, 03:38 PM
Man, I just love your drawing and painting style!
Congratulations! It's all I can say about your work...

Kilduff
04-13-2004, 06:33 PM
wow, this is great, i dont know how I missed this one for so long, i love it, no crits from me:eek:

flyingP
04-13-2004, 08:23 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/2600/2600_1081884183_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/2600/2600_1081884183_large.jpg)

still colouring.... not the fastest piece of work I have ever done but I am enjoying myself so what the hell.

Many thanks for the comments by the way guys.

mosconariz
04-13-2004, 09:22 PM
Wowowowowowowowow!!! I love every part :buttrock: ! Excelent job:thumbsup: I can't wait to see it finished!

SideAche
04-13-2004, 11:59 PM
Hey Buddy! This is looking stellar:beer: I really like the stretching flesh on the leg and foot. Great job. Very inspiring:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

Haven
04-14-2004, 01:28 AM
Looking great! Don't worry about how long its taking, hells I'm taking forever on mine, can't make up my mind. Wicked direction your piece is headed in.

AirbORn
04-14-2004, 04:36 AM
I LOVE IT!

Your colouring is coming along great :) :thumbsup:

BDPatton
04-14-2004, 06:12 AM
Dammit! I just entered and getting my ass kicked in so many different directions, AND you took my initial idea and made mine SOOOOO pathetic.

It is quite the piece of work and I cannot wait to see it finished. I read through the whole thread and think you have made some fabulous choices and got some heavy duty input from the board.

Very cool!

flyingP
04-14-2004, 08:07 AM
@ mosconariz, SideAche, Haven, AirbORn thanks guys :)

@ BDPatton just had a quick peek at your website, can't really see you getting your ass kicked, "very" nice work :applause:

EmpY
04-14-2004, 05:36 PM
Huh, wonderful!!!!
:bounce:

drnknmnky
04-14-2004, 07:02 PM
:buttrock: HI flyingP


:drool: "krasse sache" i love this piece !

the style u ´re working is great ...... are u perhaps graffiti artist too ??(don´t no why im asking that, just a feeling)

Keep up the good work. :beer:

p.s.: the character has 2 right hands.(?)

greetz from aachen,germany

Virtuoso
04-14-2004, 08:54 PM
Wild fantastic style...............machine flesh at it's most wicked...........................Nice action pose,full of life and rough edged to the maxxxxxx.intense and very well done flyingP......................:buttrock: :beer:

flyingP
04-14-2004, 10:16 PM
@EmpY: thanks!, yours is also PRETTY DAMN IMPRESSIVE :cool:

@Virtuoso somehow I feel intense is a word well reserved to your entry, crazy level of detail :applause:

like the new avatar BTW

@drnknmnky

>>>"krasse sache"

Danke

>>> are u perhaps graffiti artist too ??(don´t no why im asking that, just a feeling)

Waahhahahaha!! no idea why your asking either, although it'd interest me... but before the police start knocking at my door, NO!. Sorry to be boring but for the most part I illustrate story-boards and layout visuals for advertising agencies.

>>>p.s.: the character has 2 right hands.(?)

nope, just haven't completed the shading on "his left hand /flipper", actually I haven't really completed the shading on any part :surprised

Cheers guys
:beer:

wuensch
04-14-2004, 11:07 PM
Damn, this is really a good work-- really.
love the mood--
did know you could paint well, but did not know you have such a vivid imagination--
hehe
Olli:beer:

flyingP
04-14-2004, 11:28 PM
Hey Olli, thanks mate :thumbsup: , but then how often do I get such a brief or the time to do it in, I'm "really" enjoying doing this :D

Cheers mate.
:beer:

Hmura
04-15-2004, 02:52 AM
Oooooh this is totally awesome, excellent concept!!! :buttrock:
Wow thisis gonna look amazing!!!

bonestudio
04-15-2004, 10:35 AM
You have a great sense of coloring !!! We can feel the flesh really impressive man

vincentvv
04-16-2004, 10:02 AM
Yihaa...Now the albows looks sooo fleshy.. Im really enjoying following this thread:buttrock:

hdri
04-16-2004, 10:57 AM
FlyingP: very good work, really! (even the pose is not my favourite). You have a nice challenge on painting the traslucent parts: it will help a lot in getting the lighting.
Just a suggestion: are you planning to place rust on the metalic parts? I makes sense, and fits on the mood of the scene.
Idea: maybe placing some volume lights on the background, not very defined, just suggested, could help to integrate the BG with the character, through the light. I can't wait to see the progression of colour. It promises!

flyingP
04-16-2004, 12:50 PM
Thanks hdri

The pose, yeah well the pose, if the brief was different I would have done if differently and have broughtin a more dynamic perspective, I've left it like it is now so as to try and keep it clear as to the function of the mechanical bits and their interaction with the flesh. The lighting is likely to follow the same lines of thought.

I'm not too sure about putting rust on the metal parts, the logic being that if I was going to build these parts for a life under water myself, I'd use materials that wouldn't rust.

:beer:

JamesMK
04-16-2004, 12:59 PM
Originally posted by flyingP
I'm not too sure about putting rust on the metal parts, the logic being that if I was going to build these parts for a life under water myself, I'd use materials that wouldn't rust.
Aww... what a party pooper! :D Are you really sure you're not truly german after all? ;)

Squibbit
04-16-2004, 01:00 PM
well it depends on if that character in the pic
is the kind of person who lets his parts rust ,
not if he's on the ground or in the water , right ?
Or maybe he cannot afford better parts ?
Maybe rustproof material is the only thing available ?

n stuff :)

flyingP
04-16-2004, 01:09 PM
Damn you guys are quick...... good good I'll think about adding some rust :wip: :D

Are you really sure you're not truly german after all?

yeah maybe I have been living here to long James, although I do still get asked about my accent, so I am assuming I still have a bit of Kiwi left in me :D

JamesMK
04-16-2004, 01:13 PM
he he.... On second thought, you can keep your german design principles, and add some algae instead. I mean, you're bound to get some of that at least, even on rustproof stuff... General goo the kind you'd find on the hull of a boat, sort of....

flyingP
04-16-2004, 01:21 PM
Originally posted by JamesMK
General goo the kind you'd find on the hull of a boat, sort of....

hmmm.. barnacles and stuff maybe.... yeah why not.

Kilduff
04-16-2004, 08:52 PM
hey just want to let you know that your doing such a good job. ( you already know that) :) but im really looking forward to seeing your final image. good luck

flyingP
04-17-2004, 10:44 AM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/2600/2600_1082195055_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/2600/2600_1082195055_large.jpg)

just a quick update.

Cheers

EmpY
04-17-2004, 05:45 PM
Such a joy to watch!!! Those skin wraps on the legs, arms
are groovie. Also there is some kind of freedomness iradiating
from his scream :scream:, duuno if I've put it right, but I'm
fascinated with that feel!!
I'm really too inpatient to examine details in 1/1.:drool:
Could you post a small 1/1 crop?
Ahhh colors, wonderful!
Sooo good, sooo beautiful!!!! Keep it up flyingP!!!!

:buttrock: :wavey:

EmpY
04-17-2004, 05:50 PM
And that subtle skin translucency, beautifully
painted!

:thumbsup:

flyingP
04-17-2004, 06:28 PM
OK EmpY here's a detail, and many thanks for the comments :thumbsup:

http://www.bjread.joice.net/fposts/detail.jpg

JamesMK
04-17-2004, 06:48 PM
Phew! Not much to say except: :buttrock:

Dayum! The cutout of those skin wrappings is KILLAH! :D

I certainly like that manometer thingy as well... seems like a logical thing to have around. And those other parts are still yellow too! Yeehaw!

EDIT: OK, so it wasn't a manometer (pressure gage) after all... Just to clarify, in case anyone reads this... which I doubt... but I've washed my hands, and sealed the manometer's fate... It is no more. :D

EmpY
04-17-2004, 06:58 PM
:drool: :drool:
and machine details,
excellent!!!!!!

3mm
04-17-2004, 10:52 PM
excellent;) ;) ;)
i love your concept

maclox
04-18-2004, 02:03 AM
the develope way is really amazing, and i love the textures that you are making.

jud
04-18-2004, 04:30 AM
Love it,Love it,Love it,,the pose,the comotion and emotion,the colours,just the feel of it,everything,"it's just so wonderfull".....he say's wiping the tear from his jealous eye.
Great stuff,and the best of luck with that beast.

jud

flyingP
04-18-2004, 09:22 AM
Originally posted by JamesMK

EDIT: OK, so it wasn't a manometer (pressure gage) after all... Just to clarify, in case anyone reads this... which I doubt... but I've washed my hands, and sealed the manometer's fate... It is no more. :D

Ohhh you've been back in here I see :D
sorry I had to disappoint you with that James (that Wabbit needs glasses) , maybe I can build one in somewhere else though, you would sort of expect him to have something like that I guess :beer:

@EmpY, 3mm, maclox, jud Many thanks folks :thumbsup:

JamesMK
04-18-2004, 09:27 AM
Wabbit already has glasses, but never wears them because he can't find them due to inferior eyesight.... o_O I believe hand grenades are supposed to be an efficient weapon against near-sighted killer wabbits.

flyingP
04-18-2004, 09:35 AM
Is that because they think they're eggs or something, damn have to be careful next Easter :D

JamesMK
04-18-2004, 10:03 AM
I can see it clearly.... hop hop hop... hop KA-BLOOIE! Egg shells and twitching rabbit parts everywhere :scream:

flyingP
04-18-2004, 10:16 AM
Yes but we could put him back together again..... :surprised Hah! now there's a cool concept for this challenge :bounce:

Cartesius
04-18-2004, 10:36 AM
My first 2D thread is with this subscribed! Excellent work, you have some serious talent.

/Anders

flyingP
04-18-2004, 10:46 AM
Hey Cartesius, cool, thanks for stopping by :beer: glad you like it.

rept0r
04-18-2004, 01:01 PM
I want to see it finished man, so cool the whole skin stitched with those mechanics parts really like that kind of design you are getting there

JamesMK
04-18-2004, 01:27 PM
Ah yeah... Brian Read's deep-sea monster in 2D - the total cross-over hit, luring those messed up 3D fans over to the other side :D

MorteR
04-18-2004, 09:47 PM
Seeing the nuber of pages on this thread I didn't bother reading
anything, hehe...But your drawings says everything.
Superb! I like it a lot. The colors are coming along nicely as well.
Just don't stop now, man! I need to see more :scream:

is.it.living
04-19-2004, 06:36 PM
It is interesting to see the different moments of your concept , specialy the beginning , the composition...
Now you seem to be on a good way...
That's the least I can say !
:drool: to see the end thing.
Magic The gathering rare card illustration !

:p

flyingP
04-19-2004, 09:27 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/2600/2600_1082406436_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/2600/2600_1082406436_large.jpg)

sorry not a huge update, but I'm pretty happy with the skin on the tail now so I thought I'd load it up, the mechanical parts still need some work.

Cheers.

vincentvv
04-19-2004, 11:40 PM
...would it be possible to stretch the leg out a small amount?
That way it would be a more clear pose i think....
Well...im really trying hard to find places there could be enhanced just a litle bit...its kinda difficult though...
Still the color maybe? They are great, but still look a bit above water`ish. Actually i commed to think about a flying `bot, with the evening sunlight behind the wings.......
But later it would be easy to add some low opacity blue-green layers...or maybe some bubles raises from above...

Still...the pic is getting better all the time. The details works well; to many details could make the pic looks "filled-up", but i think u managed to put em on the right places:)
...but i wouldnt have expected less from one with ur skills.
hehe
:cool:

Haven
04-19-2004, 11:59 PM
Looking great!

One way you can make him look to be more underwater, and you can see this in underwater pictures, is to put more shades of your water, blues, greens, and purples as you have it, in the shadows of your figure. That would pull him more into the water.

Really great jop, I'm dying to get back to work on mine, but been soooo busy. :cry:

flyingP
04-20-2004, 08:32 AM
thanks guys, I will be adding a extra level later with bubbles etc. and a bit of extra colour for the water, just haven't got that far yet.
:beer:

JamesMK
04-20-2004, 08:59 AM
A bubble and debris layer will probably make this thing pop even more!

And, I've already said that before, but anyway... the translucency... ah... sweet... I might have to beat you silly with a wet sock.

flyingP
04-20-2004, 09:10 AM
what James, no brick? :D

Atwooki
04-20-2004, 09:20 AM
Looking magnificent, Brian :) Really appreciating all your colouring and texturing work on this one; great stuff :applause:
No real crits, other than he's looking a little over-pink ATM, but that's probably intentional.... :shrug:

Atwooki

flyingP
04-20-2004, 09:31 AM
Originally posted by Atwooki
other than he's looking a little over-pink ATM, but that's probably intentional.... :shrug:

Atwooki

thanks Atwooki, to be honest I'm just getting a bit carried away at the moment, as said though, another colour layer will coming over the top where I'll adjust that where needed....it's one of the aspects of painting on the computer that I really quite enjoy. :beer:

Atwooki
04-20-2004, 09:51 AM
Thought so; good on yer!
With folks using so many layers for everything from keeping the cold out to 2D/3D artwork these days, is hard to crit without being caught unawares.... :D

Atwooki

flyingP
04-20-2004, 10:17 AM
Haha, yes indeed Chris, and actually there is a part of me that of me that still thinks it's bit of a cheat, although really I suppose it is a legitimate use of the tools, and saves "a lot" of hassle.
:beer:

AirbORn
04-20-2004, 04:16 PM
Owwww, your colouring is coming along very well, Grat job :thumbsup:

mosconariz
04-20-2004, 07:26 PM
and actually there is a part of me that of me that still thinks it's bit of a cheat

Everything in computers is a cheat! Imagine how easy would real life be if we have tools like Undo, Redo, Copy, Paste...

Well, modeling is a lot more dificult in the computer, but that's not the point!

EmpY
04-20-2004, 09:09 PM
This is actually only thread where I truly
enjoy slow developments!
Carry on:thumbsup:

Virtuoso
04-21-2004, 07:46 AM
I agree 100% with everything Empy is saying flyingP.......Except for one thing.....I want lot's of updates.....:p ..........I love the design,it's wonderful,intricate details,it's wild and intense,from flesh to machine,it's mixed in fluidly,just top notch in every regard..............Such a nice flow,and I find my eyes moving all over the place and back,always seeing something new and wonderfuly detailed...............Love your work............:buttrock: :thumbsup:

flyingP
04-21-2004, 02:13 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/2600/2600_1082553205_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/2600/2600_1082553205_large.jpg)

Thanks for the comments guys, I'll do my best to keep the updates coming then, just don't expect them to be huge....here at least is one.

Cheers

ailu
04-21-2004, 07:12 PM
that´s real good design and imagination there!!:eek:

I have but one thing to say: if your man lives very deep down underwater wouldn´t he be quite pale, you dont need no pigment down there... Plus he would be more scary.

looking forward for more uppdates!!!

flyingP
04-21-2004, 07:37 PM
Originally posted by ailu
I have but one thing to say: if your man lives very deep down underwater wouldn´t he be quite pale, you dont need no pigment down there...

Artistic license :D

:beer:

JamesMK
04-21-2004, 07:42 PM
Oh, good answer! :D

creativer
04-22-2004, 01:22 AM
:buttrock: Great painting skills dude!:thumbsup:

vincentvv
04-22-2004, 01:57 AM
Still topnotch...love the way the body trancending into tech....
Like the way the flesh is attach to the metal....
U Rocks:thumbsup:

Kilduff
04-22-2004, 07:47 AM
Very good, I hope you enjoy your new toy “Cintiq” that you will be getting,

you really do have some true skill. Good job bro


your got my vote:bowdown:

flyingP
04-22-2004, 08:17 AM
Originally posted by terrance stk
I hope you enjoy your new toy “Cintiq” that you will be getting,


Hahaha thanks, still I don't hear any fat ladies singing yet, and to be honest I am really doing this more for the fun of it and the chance to mix with you guys in here :bounce:
(of course the pad would be nice too :D )

Cheers :beer:

JamesMK
04-22-2004, 08:23 AM
Originally posted by flyingP
still I don't hear any fat ladies singing yet
Hey, I can sing for'ya! :D

flyingP
04-22-2004, 08:24 AM
Aha so "it is" a double D after all then James :D

flyingP
04-25-2004, 04:03 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/2600/2600_1082905384_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/2600/2600_1082905384_large.jpg)

it's a bit rough But I am slowly giving a bit of thought to the water.

Falcorr
04-25-2004, 04:11 PM
So many bubbles its pretty obvious that your machine flesh was just flying and decided to dive in the water 20 seconds ago.

If it would be deep water and your machine flesh would have been submerged for over 5 minutes of time there would be almost no bubbles.

Looking good flyingP. Guess i have to try a little harder thanx to you :wip: :wavey:

flyingP
04-25-2004, 04:19 PM
Thanks Falcor_
To be honest I'm sort of trying to distance myself from the deep sea aspect, lets just say he gets to the surface every one and a while, and indeed I had originally thought that he is also capable of walking around on land.

Forgot to mention by the way this is just a background layer, I'll most likely add another layer over the top of all this later, just nothing to heavy as I don't want to lose too much detail in the figure.

:beer:

angel
04-25-2004, 04:38 PM
This is looking really nice. I love the design, very freaky:)

Keep it up!

AirbORn
04-25-2004, 04:40 PM
oh man, I'm lost for words, I can't wait to see more!

vincentvv
04-25-2004, 09:48 PM
Yaa...this is cool.
Bubles can be so..."default" looking, such a clipart boring things , but thees ones is really painted...nice

Im sitting and looking at ur pic with a friend, and we both got the same thought..:
Creatures is wounded- going down, only blood in water above it, would make that illusion perfekt...
...well that could be a outcome of this story...

anyways..still beautiful art.

Squibbit
04-25-2004, 10:31 PM
hey that gives me another idea... they don't want the
creature on the surface and in addition to blood you put
like bullets and bubbly bullet trails in the water ...

vincentvv
04-25-2004, 10:43 PM
..now im suddenly thinking, Saving Private Fishman:)

flyingP
04-25-2004, 10:50 PM
Originally posted by vincent_v
..now im suddenly thinking, Saving Private Fishman:)

ROFL ..... :applause:

Squibbit
04-25-2004, 10:50 PM
lol, yea

masahiro
04-26-2004, 02:22 AM
Great concepts! I like ur way of painting as well! And I was just wondering why and how you swiched the dog's face to a ghost's? and what is the major difference of that? :rolleyes: Anyway, the last one is very cool! Keep up!

flyingP
04-26-2004, 07:58 AM
Originally posted by masahiro
And I was just wondering why and how you swiched the dog's face to a ghost's?

...um I can remember doing a chicken and a hippo, but when did I do a dog? :curious:

JamesMK
04-26-2004, 07:59 AM
Yeah.... I thought that was my job :D

flyingP
04-26-2004, 08:05 AM
Wahhahahahahaha, maybe I should look a bit closer at what I'm typing :D

XIA
04-26-2004, 08:24 AM
Nice painting dude! I like especially the flesh/skin tone...those are hard to pull off. You did an excellent job!!! :beer: :thumbsup:

cuppacam
04-26-2004, 08:25 AM
Damn inspirational stuff here. Can't wait to see the water effects.:applause:

Atwooki
04-26-2004, 11:25 AM
Fabulous, Brian!

Wonderful colour palette, and dare I say it, a touch of the ol' Frazzetta in there also (hit me if I'm mistaken :) )

Only possible crit would be that the guy's stomach isn't quite convincing in it's colour perspective/definition - correct please (I know you will of course!)

Great stuff :)

Atwooki

flyingP
04-26-2004, 11:32 AM
Originally posted by Atwooki
Only possible crit would be that the guy's stomach isn't quite convincing in it's colour perspective/definition

Ahh thanks for picking up on that Chris!!, yeah It's been bugging me too, was planning to do a bit of work on the in the next update.

:beer:

Atwooki
04-26-2004, 11:33 AM
Thought as much! always a bummer in 2D, that sort of thing :)

Chris - Atwooki

flyingP
04-29-2004, 03:29 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/2600/2600_1083248988_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/2600/2600_1083248988_large.jpg)

OK I've been back over his stomach chest etc. and have made a few changes that I hope have it looking better now.

I've also adjusted the colours this time, for the first time, in Photoshop or rather their tonal value.

Some feed back would be great.

cheers

Squibbit
04-29-2004, 03:35 PM
i think it's a cool pic


heh

duddlebug
04-29-2004, 06:03 PM
The water is really coming on. The glow across the top of the image is really successful. And the same goes for the bubbles. They bothe give a good impression of the light filtering through the scene.

And there's some great, intricate detail in the figure. he looks a lot meaner than the hippo would've turned out!! :)

i can't believe you've got so far with it already....good work!!

AlexDragutescu
04-29-2004, 06:06 PM
The creature looks great. I love the details, and it has a very good dynamic. The background it s very nice too ... you can maybe make it a bit darker to emphasize the contrast. Try it just to see.
the image is very very nice.
Good work

kress
04-29-2004, 06:19 PM
OK, this is totally wicked and out of control, but there is ONE thing that bugs me every time I look at it: his stomach just ends at a smooth hump, it doesn't seem to flow with everything else. I know this is a little late in the game to muck with the design but I had to say it - plus, it's just my one opinion so... :p

:applause:

flyingP
04-29-2004, 06:47 PM
Originally posted by kress
I know this is a little late in the game to muck with the design but I had to say it - plus, it's just my one opinion so... :p

:applause:

No that's cool I'm still working on that, actually if you compare this with the last image I posted you'll see I've already reworked the area around the shoulder/neck/back/chest, but you're right and the stomach gets the next bit of attention.

hdri emailed me a suggestion over the colours as well, which I'll upload in a few minutes (hrdi can't host it, so it's going on my web space) I'd be curious to hear what the rest of you think.

:beer:

flyingP
04-29-2004, 06:56 PM
Ok here's the colour suggestion hdri sent me before, (for which I am most thankful hdri)
http://www.bjread.joice.net/fposts/FPC.jpg
if any of you guys have any suggestions along the same lines I'm curious to hear them, it's helpful feedback.

Cheers
:beer:


Oh and before I forget AlexDragutescu , I'll give it a go :thumbsup:

Squibbit
04-29-2004, 07:15 PM
how about something like in-between of the two ?

the latest pic with the layers now looks like there's
some water between the "camera" and the creature ,
but I don't wanna see it so pink

uhh..i mean it's underwater so the new pic's ok ...just
wouldn't want so much color change.. then again the
new pic could be best..ye ...it is..maybe too pink but yea..

nothing against pink...just in this occasion ...

flyingP
04-29-2004, 07:22 PM
thanks Squibbit , we'll see I understand what hdri was getting at and I had planned another layer to go over the top with more blue tones hdri mentioned in his mail that this was just a quick attempt, and it is pushing a bit too far into the magenta tones (hence the pinkness) at the moment for my taste but the idea if fairly clear.

XIA
04-29-2004, 09:36 PM
Well done buddy! Much more impact on lighting. Since you have a strong cool hightlight (blueist), u could heat up the shadow toward warm a little more. Cool light = warm shadow, Warm light= Cool Shadow. My 2 cents, looking good!:thumbsup:

hdri
04-29-2004, 11:23 PM
Don't be afraid of pink. Every colour is OK if it is in the right place.
Here is a pic of one of the most daring painters using colour:
Joaquin Sorolla y Bastida, Spain, Impressionism
born 1863 - died 1923
http://www.aguainfant.com/ENGLISH/cuadros/balandrito-bisel.jpg
It is one of the most powerful features of colour: the ability to work right or wrong with similar strenght. I already wonder how masters could use colour so easily...
Here is the link to the image, in case it does not allow linking:
sorolla (http://www.aguainfant.com/ENGLISH/cuadros/balandrito.htm)

Virtuoso
04-29-2004, 11:32 PM
i love the whole action packed set up.The intensity level is high,the design and style are wonderful...............I would go for the more recent look,a little more deep in tone,and the intensity of the colors are more vibrant.............just a fantastic piece os work.......Really without getting technical I just think it looks beautiful.................:thumbsup: :thumbsup:

Squibbit
04-29-2004, 11:43 PM
lol , hdri i already said i got nothing against pink :)
I know it's good if it's in the right place :)

and that Sorolla pic is so great ; I ain't seen much
paintings of old but I never wouldve set that pic so far
back in time , It's just too colorful... (and also relaxed)

thanks for the pic

flyingP
04-30-2004, 08:33 AM
Originally posted by hdri
Don't be afraid of pink. Every colour is OK if it is in the right place.
Here is a pic of one of the most daring painters using colour:
Joaquin Sorolla y Bastida, Spain, Impressionism
born 1863 - died 1923
http://www.aguainfant.com/ENGLISH/cuadros/balandrito-bisel.jpg


Hmmm complementary colours, yeah used right they're powerfull, get the mix wrong though and it'll slap the hell out of your eyeball.....with a brick.......in a wet sock :eek:

@Virtuoso, XIA
:beer:

viag
04-30-2004, 09:18 AM
this is nice ! the water effect is well done , great mouvement !