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Lukavi
03-20-2004, 09:59 AM
First competition for me. I decided to do Detective Alonzo Harris (Denzel washington) from Training Day. Should be fun, hes a cool character in that movie imo.

http://us.ent4.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/warner_brothers/training_day/denzel_washington/training2.jpg

http://www.cinecitta.de/archiv/t/pic/training_day.jpg

Lukavi
03-21-2004, 09:34 AM
Heres a full body block in of the character, going to work on getting the face likeness next. Hangin around 3700 tris atm.

http://picserver.org/view_image.php/18ZTJ0M28ATP

Lukavi
03-23-2004, 06:55 AM
*Sigh* Kinda sucks when you post stuff and nobody replies... But anyway here is some more progress, texture isnt final or anything but heres where Im at for the moment.

http://picserver.org/view_image.php/SN16F1UAVA2A
http://picserver.org/view_image.php/6P11N4SP417D

BiTMAP
03-23-2004, 07:10 AM
i simply don't see any pictures of your model, my internet is crappy though and often doesn't load things completly :( (try downloading things with it!)

oh oh! i just scrolled down, this page made the images apear. not bad looks clean, good work on the texutreing :D

eMPeck
03-23-2004, 07:50 AM
Very good progress indeed. I really like him.

CGmonkey
03-23-2004, 08:01 AM
That's nice! ^_^

chrisdejoya
03-23-2004, 08:14 AM
great job, man. nice movie pick too.

check the angle of the brows, your model has a lucifer arch. in the refs his browline is thick and straight.

Eclipse3D
03-23-2004, 01:34 PM
YA no kidding at least people are replying to your stuff now haha. The model is very ncie, the textures needs a bit of work but I understand it's a WIP so i'll let you do your thing :). Keep these updates coming!

Lukavi
03-23-2004, 03:38 PM
Thanks for the replies guys! Im having a small problem getting everything with his texture perfect since Im working mostly from 50 x 50 gifs I could scrounge up from google. Anyway Im going to try my best to have him looking top notch when hes done.
I might have gone a little overboard on the eyebrows, Ill tone them down a bit. I was mostly trying to capture that evil/sarcastic/frustrated look he kind of holds through the whole movie. Just about every screenshot I found of him from the movie he has that look lol.

chrisdejoya
03-23-2004, 09:47 PM
I think sarcastic works best with one eyebrow. Arching both eyebrows at the same time seems kinda fruity.

Doing great man, keep it up.

Lukavi
03-24-2004, 07:31 AM
Ok heres my most recent progress. I just put on some not so impressive textures to the body just to get a feel for what I want. I rounded out the back of the head a bit since it was buggin the hell out of me, I also worked on the eyebrows. Crits comments welcome.

http://picserver.org/view_image.php/DPSE32O613TW
http://picserver.org/view_image.php/D5038OPYPXVY

Pezz3D
03-24-2004, 07:33 AM
how did u take photos and make them go so well on that map? Your knowledge interests me!

Vinces
03-24-2004, 01:59 PM
Yes, great job on textures. and the model is looking great too, i like the bottom of the pant legs, and the wrinkles.

Lukavi
03-25-2004, 07:24 AM
Thanks for the compliments guys!

Well my only trick for texturing is to have good photo reference, and if you cant take any good photo reference then make sure you can paint it. (Ive had too many nightmares working with crappy reference) Ive done a little of both since the pants and shirt are mostly painted and the jacket is mostly photo reference. Some people prefer one technique over the other I like using both.

This is my second pass I did tonight, I still haveto do a third pass and (possibly) a fourth pass. Still a lot of minor issues and a lot of cleanup work with UVs and whatnot. Anyway here you go. Crits and Comments welcome.

http://picserver.org/view_image.php/2HRVXJY5FD55
http://picserver.org/view_image.php/I3XLR8702T61

Lukavi
03-25-2004, 03:04 PM
You gotta be kidding me, no replies?

Lekku
03-25-2004, 04:50 PM
The jacket looks great. The pants, however... they need work. Also, I think you need to work on the face a bit. His features blend out. Maybe contrast the creases and highlights. You need to suggest features more with your textures, since you are limitedd with geometry. It's like the jacket... you suggests folds, creases and seams that you don't have the real estate to model. Going back to the pants, they shouldn't be the same as the pants. They are more gray, with darkened areas of shadow. Look at the second pic, the movie poster. you can see how the jeans appear lighter than the shirt, but when shadowed, look much DARKER than the shirt. Game lighting is limited, so you should "light" your texture, to make it look right.

ginsengavenger
03-25-2004, 04:53 PM
really well done dude. my only suggestions are that in your references, the creases in his face (under the eye, nose to corner of the mouth) are more pronounced, gives him a more expressive, hardened look. also the inner sides of the sleeves are kinda wonky. gj

Lukavi
03-25-2004, 10:31 PM
Thanks for the input guys.

@Lekku
I agree with you, I did plan on going back into the face texture because I felt it was lacking a bit of contrast. So I will take care of that. Also bear in mind there is no lighting in my renders just a medium gray ambient, so everything will be much darker/contrasty when I light it for real. I also will go back into the pants texture and rework the shadowing because at the moment I did realize there isnt much. Thanks!

@ginsengavenger
I also agree with your comments, I will go back into the face texture and define some of his lines a little more. Dont worry about the sleeves I just put them there to hold space for my progress render. I want them to look more like they do in the second ref picture for the final. Thanks again.

If anybody cant see the pictures let me know Ill host them someplace else, I really would like any feedback I can get since I want this to turn out perfect.

Beastie
03-26-2004, 07:40 PM
Wow, thats a damn near perfect game model in his likeness. Congrats!

dtrimble
03-27-2004, 08:41 AM
He looks great, awesome texturing job.

There is something a little odd with his proportions, I know a typical human's lower legs are shorter than the upper ones, and I think your model looks odd in that both parts look the same length. It also could be his pants ride real low, maybe a posed model would show this.

I must say it is sweet work man.

Lukavi
03-30-2004, 03:25 AM
Thanks for the input guys, I havent done a whole lot of new work recently. I mostly just cleaned up some of the textures and added a spec and bump map to the model. Still a bit to be done, not sure if I will do it though. Depends on the feedback I get. Thanks again.

I threw these together real quick, not perfect, but gives you an idea of what Im going for.

http://picserver.org/view_image.php/CJJ89OSD4K44
http://picserver.org/view_image.php/WKQR092QS461

AdamAtomic
03-30-2004, 06:19 AM
the only possible thing that seems a little off to me is his hands - the geometry seems a little wide across the knuckles. Aside from that its a remarkable job! Great work!

red3d
03-30-2004, 09:14 PM
the hair need too be more black , looks too brown now, exept from that nice job :)

samtack
03-30-2004, 10:23 PM
man those last two renders look really nice...i agree that the hair could be a bit darker...but besides that i think you did a super job

Ravager
03-30-2004, 10:42 PM
Hey man, very nice job. Texturing is excellent. Any chance you could show us a wire?

obelisk
03-31-2004, 03:10 AM
I agree with the hair colour comment, and the knuckle geometry issue Adam Atomicc raised. I also think it'd be great to see him in the hat to tie back to the movie and promotional material a little more. [edit>] Also (looking back at the reference) those forehead creases could be incorporated. They'd be less pronounced with this expression, but they'd still be there.

Meantime, this is looking really good. It's far and away the most resolved entry I've seen so far. Great work...

Neil
03-31-2004, 04:50 AM
i dig it :)

But man, you GOTTA add those lapels (whatever you guys call them) on the front of the jacket. it would only add a couple faces and it would give the jacket some more depth. Right now you just have them painted on.
Think about it.

Lukavi
03-31-2004, 06:22 PM
Thanks for all your comments and crits, I agree with most of you and I do plan on fixing the issues pointed out. Due to a midlife crisis, I dont know when ill be able to do more work on this model. So I guess its done until everything in my personal life gets resolved. Its kind of unfortunate because I planned on modelling the car as well recreating an action still from the movie :( Thanks for the input guys, much appreciated.

Solve
04-01-2004, 03:17 PM
rocks, my only crit is your character looks like he's in his 20's. It just doesn't appear as aged as Denzel Washington.

cris castro
04-01-2004, 03:57 PM
looks very cool ,seems you have good references at nice resolution(sometimes very hard to find :)

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