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Newke
03-18-2004, 08:21 PM
Nicolas Richelet has entered the Machineflesh 2D Challenge.

Newke
03-18-2004, 08:52 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/2240/2240_1079646764_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/2240/2240_1079646764_large.jpg)

Very quick sketch.

Subject/Idea : Temptation.
More about bio-mechanics next time ;)

Newke
03-19-2004, 07:35 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/2240/2240_1079728552_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/2240/2240_1079728552_large.jpg)

Choose your feature : Sky module or Underwater module.

NB : we recommend that you don't mix or use two different modules simultaneously.

- DREAMS, Inc. -

adrianis
03-19-2004, 07:45 PM
Good design :thumbsup:

can't wait to see more... and coloring...

Newke
03-20-2004, 04:19 PM
Thank you for your comment !
I'm on for a more detailed concept sketchs :)

Quizboy
03-20-2004, 05:11 PM
I love the composition here. My suggestion would be to make the two characters different in function and design, so you get an immediate Romeo and Juliet love-crosses-all-boundaries feeling. This could be a winner...

Newke
03-20-2004, 09:12 PM
Quizboy, you 've got a neuronal improvment to read thoughts, no?
Because, you're suggestion is very close to my base idea. :)

There are several possible interpretation for this concept :

- 1 -

A love story between a man and a woman both slaves of a company which exploits them.
The man is equipped with an improvment module allowing him to fly in the airs
The woman have an improvment module derived from man's one, but it allows her to breathe and swim under water.
The company ( DREAMS, Inc. ) oblige them to work for it, by exploiting the reachable resources to each one (to gather stars, sources of energy? to fish? found oil?).
Their love is physically impossible, the man cannot breathe under water, and the woman cannot breathe in the air (she have oxygen filters (mechanical gills)).
They will never live together :cry:

- 2 -

The final image wille be an ad for the Dreams, Inc. , showing improvment module to reach the skies, or the abyss.
This ad shows 2 beautiful humans with 2 variations of the generic improvment module sold by Dreams, Inc.
Once the basic supports installed on your body (surgical operation carried out without pain (dixit Dreams, Inc)), you can interchange very simply between the two modules.
More variations will be available soon.

Detailled sketches will be available soon, too ! ;)

- 3 -

An illustration of the 3 conquests of the human race: The Sky, the Water, and the Flesh...

- 4 -

The fourth conquest of the man is ... the woman (my wife don't agree with this one.... :hmm: )

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I think i'll take the first interpretation.
oh...and sorry for my poor english.

Riddick
03-21-2004, 08:35 AM
Good luck man!!!
The concept is good and I hope that you will arrive to do what you have in the head.:beer:

Newke
03-22-2004, 09:32 AM
Thanks Riddick !

I forgot to mention some things about the Yin and the Yang....

Later maybe.

:wavey:

Quizboy
03-22-2004, 09:48 AM
Definitely, definitely the first idea - where the guy can't breathe in water and the girl can't breathe in air. But on this one then be careful to make it "visually" obvious that they can't mix, so not deriving the apparatus from too similar a design like it is now... Maybe the engineering style of the parts (as in maybe the shape of the nuts, botls and rods or whatever) can kind be enough clue that it's from the same company.

If you do plan to do more with the Yin and the Yang thing (which I love, just look at the name of my web domain "www.xinxang.com") then you might consider making the two engineering designs symbiotically functional yet eternally separate (oh, so tragic!!!:cry: ) - but I think this would be extremely difficult designwise.

I'm very curious to see how you proceed. Good Luck!

jawine
03-22-2004, 11:47 AM
I'd go for the first idea, the theme of a tragic love is more evocative than the possibilty of painless enhancements :)

FACaliza
03-23-2004, 11:20 PM
great composition really like the idea, can't wait too see more of your work...:bowdown:

Tommy Lee
03-24-2004, 05:13 AM
Looks promising... good luck!:beer:

Tommy Lee

Newke
03-24-2004, 05:13 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/2240/2240_1080152029_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/2240/2240_1080152029_large.jpg)

Here's a more detailled concept sketch. I'll add some selected close-ups in minutes, with some goodies ;)

Oops, i was going to forget...I have definitively chosen the "Romeo_and_Juliet and the Impossible Love" like idea, but everyone can interpret the image as he wants.

Massive thanks for viewing, crits & Suggestions.

Newke
03-24-2004, 05:36 PM
http://perso.club-internet.fr/nikos4/Ext_artworks/Fish'n'Bird_CloseUp1.24.03.2004.jpg

Here you can see some very important details :
- The "code bars" (i suppose that's the english word for "Code Barre" in french.). As the ADN chain is the identity for a normal guy, the code bars is the identity for Dreams, inc. enhanced slaves, and the symbol of a consumer society.
Here, the machine enhancements are reducing humans in slavery...
- I tried to make a sad expression on girl's face, and add a little tear dropping from his eye (she fills the ocean with her tears :cry: ). Better that an happy face to show the idea.
- The man have air entries to feed his stabilizers (burners), and the woman's got mechanical gills to feed his own propellers.

To be continued....

Riddick
03-24-2004, 07:05 PM
I'm waiting for the color version.:beer:

Newke
03-24-2004, 08:40 PM
Color is coming, don't be impatient my friend ! :bounce: :bounce: :p

Newke
03-26-2004, 04:07 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/2240/2240_1080320825_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/2240/2240_1080320825_large.jpg)

Just my first attempt at coloring.
I have some different rendering ideas.

On this one, i try to obtain a "fresco" like render. Very hard and risky, but there's 80 days left...

Quizboy
03-26-2004, 04:09 PM
hmm must they both have wings? the difference is very subtle, could be simply the difference between male and female wings at this point.

Newke
03-26-2004, 04:28 PM
Here's the difference between the 2 characters (not so subtle, but maybe i'm wrong) :

- Man : wings, burner stabilizers, air entries on the chest, antennae on right ear.
- Woman : fins, underwater propellers, palms.

I'm trying to make the image viewer understand that the enhancements have been made by the same company, but are a bit different and have a different usage.
Just to show that they are victims of the same (world?) company.

Maybe i will add more stuff in the future, but i wanna keep dominant the "flesh side" as possible as, on this two characters.

Thanx for your comment :beer:

Newke
03-26-2004, 10:19 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/2240/2240_1080343185_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/2240/2240_1080343185_large.jpg)

La suite...

Riddick
03-27-2004, 08:54 AM
Ahhh!
Ok well, maybe you should do more little details and try to do something in the background.

The head of the man is really too big.
But keep this feeling!
:)

Quizboy
03-27-2004, 11:26 AM
Here's the difference between the 2 characters (not so subtle, but maybe i'm wrong) :

- Man : wings, burner stabilizers, air entries on the chest, antennae on right ear.
- Woman : fins, underwater propellers, palms.

I'm trying to make the image viewer understand that the enhancements have been made by the same company, but are a bit different and have a different usage.
Just to show that they are victims of the same (world?) company.


The differences you mentioned are quite obvious but they are no more dramatic than the differences between me and my girlfriend.

I think anyone who sees this picture would think they are the same species just one is a man and the other a woman, and the biggest reason for this is the wings on the woman. They are so large and prominent that they way overshadow the fins on her feet.

I believe the UPC symbols and the X shaped nut appartus things they both have all over would be enough to suggest they come from the same company, but in my honest opinion the picture doesn't work if it doesn't dramatically display at first visual glance that these two people belong to different race/species/function whatever.

matsuru
03-27-2004, 12:13 PM
the initial concept is good.

u can improve the overall painting by:

1. have the guy lip kiss the girl
2. draw the other hand visible. if not, they look either flat or with only 1 hand
3. add in a dramatic background
4. maybe u need to crop the drawing abit tighter to focus the 'love' theme.

good luck~!

Newke
03-27-2004, 12:44 PM
Thank you very much for your comments !

Quizboy, You're right : I think I have to remove the "big fins/wings" on her arms, maybe put a big one on her back, and put little fins on her arms. Thank you for your precious comments :thumbsup:

Matsuru : All of your suggestions are envisaged, except the fourth one...the image size must be 2675/3636 or 3636/2675. That's strange because that limits the composition, but i've asked about that rule in the Question Thread, And Leigh tell me to fit the necessary size.
I'm working on a dramatic background, actually it's a bit flat...I approve

Riddick : Head scaled ! Thanks !

Thanks again everyone !:bounce:

contempogaleria
03-31-2004, 07:53 PM
very good concept, i like the idea im looking forward to see more.
sorry about the inglish.
KGuevara

SideAche
03-31-2004, 08:03 PM
If the girl is in water, you may want to push the darks in the water and have the figure be lighter in value than the water if she is light skinned and nude. If not, I would push the colors in the skin in both figures. Rather than using only values of one color, play with warm and cool shadows and highlights. Keep it up. The idea is interesting.

Newke
04-04-2004, 10:12 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/2240/2240_1081116759_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/2240/2240_1081116759_large.jpg)

Not statisfied with the previous one.
I'm trying new color ambient.
Here's the WIP result.
Many things to change, especially for the machine parts.

Dobryi_Jedai
04-19-2004, 08:36 AM
ummm... last version very nice!!! :applause:

Neozoom
04-19-2004, 06:04 PM
Putin c super tu vien de marseille ma poule ^^
Jsuis de toulon VIVE NOUS!!
J'aime bien ton image la dern version est pas mal mais le contrast bizarre fait quon voie plus ytrop ce qui se passe mais ca peut etre surreel apres tout ^^
GOOD luck for futur ^^

Newke
04-20-2004, 06:42 PM
Yeah ! Le sud rulez ! :buttrock:

Good luck à toi ossi ! :beer:

neble
04-25-2004, 01:37 AM
sorry, kinda gives me a feeling that the metal was an after thought. Maybe if you embedded the metal more.

Newke
04-30-2004, 05:04 PM
Thank you very much for your comments, i'm gonna tweak this soon :thumbsup:

Newke
05-01-2004, 03:55 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/2240/2240_1083426935_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/2240/2240_1083426935_large.jpg)

I changed the design a little bit before the next attempt at coloring...

sketchfiend
05-18-2004, 12:15 PM
Love the concept, looks like a dream i once had. Looks like the story it tells is kind of sad, dont know. but i do like it, at this stage the line work looks great but im not sure about the coloured version looks very washed out and you seem to loose some of the nice details. Its a wip of course so i cant wait to see what you come up with:thumbsup:

Newke
05-19-2004, 10:13 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/2240/2240_1085004784_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/2240/2240_1085004784_large.jpg)

Another colorin' attempt.
I think i'm on the right way now ;)

Craymels
05-20-2004, 06:40 AM
Its getting cooler and cooler Got an idea maybe u wanna make the back groud city glow i think would turn out nice because the atmosphere is dark so a certain glow brings out everything. Dun make the cloud to glowy make the city surrounding glow. ^ ^

Newke
05-20-2004, 08:22 AM
Thanks,

you've got a good idea, i'm gonna make some glows on the city, and make the far sky brighter. :thumbsup:

Newke
05-21-2004, 09:09 AM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/2240/2240_1085130576_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/2240/2240_1085130576_large.jpg)

the story continues.... :)

thoughtcriminal
05-22-2004, 04:49 PM
Liked your concept the best!

I had the same idea-of a meeting between a maremade and an "angel" which are both mecha-enhanced...

Finaly my work took me to a different place.

Like the composition-it looks like a poster for an anime movie - I don't know why, maybe because of the "flat" composition...

can't wait to see it finished.

Craymels
05-22-2004, 05:48 PM
Oki its getting nicer i think watcha gotta do isto make the surrounding of the city glow even more then the clouds will have a little reflection of the yellowish glow it willloo nice eh .Sparkles may be added u could i try it ^ ^

Newke
05-24-2004, 09:27 PM
Thank u very much, craymels, thoughtcriminal and sketchfiend !
Craymels, your suggestions are precious :thumbsup:
Thanks again ;)

I will post another update soon.

Newke
05-24-2004, 10:23 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/2240/2240_1085437424_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/2240/2240_1085437424_large.jpg)

Another update

Newke
05-27-2004, 09:38 AM
http://perso.club-internet.fr/nikos4/Ext_artworks/Color_Wip_6.26.05.2004.jpg

Update : up the contrast and add some little things...

thoughtcriminal
05-27-2004, 11:01 AM
As I said before, I'm keeping an eye on your job cause it's very close to me early concept (which has been changed a bit since then).

Your paiting goes along very well, I really love the paintbrush style you use for it.

I don't really like the colors you picked.

The city in the background is an undefined yellow\green color, which doesn't do miracles to my stomache, I think the city should be desaturated a bit, and mabe tinted blue or white instead of green.

The characters are wonderfully drawn!
The guy's shoulder is a bit misplaced and should look differently (I'm not an anatomic expert, but I did a few medical animations for shoulder surgery which gave me some knowledge, plus I just looked at my shoulder in the same position through a mirror, I suggest you do the same and see for yourself)

But I think that the major thing that you should concentrate on is correct lighting... Right now I couldn't find any legitimate light source that could justify the lighting of your characters, except for:

1. the glowing tenticles which do a great job in lighting the girl, and should also effect the guy on top of the water (you could do an amaizing effect of light refracting through the water on his skin).

2. the electric net on the guys hands, which should be a very dominant light source on both the guy and the girl (ones again, you can do the same trick of refracting the light onto the girls skin)

3. the city behind them. which, in my opinion should be a lot darker, and hardly visible except for some rough outlines (to halp focus the viewers on the characters.

Well, I got a lot of work ahead of me so I'd better get to it. Hope you find some usefull suggestions in my (pretty long) post...

Good luck!

Riddick
05-27-2004, 11:08 AM
This is really better and better.
You improve your drawing as one goes along with the color.
Bravo.

Newke
05-27-2004, 11:28 AM
Thoughtcrimminal -> A ton of thanks for your suggestions and critics, that's what i need to improve my work ! I have read your post with a great interest !

that's for u :you :beer: :buttrock: :thumbsup: :applause: :bowdown:

Newke
05-27-2004, 11:29 AM
Riddick -> A semi-ton of thanks for your comments ;) :p
'cause i'm jealous that you have finish your machineflesh work :drool:

Newke
05-27-2004, 02:33 PM
I've updated the previous painting.
I 've juste changed the city in the background. I think i need to work again on it.

paladin6303
05-27-2004, 02:54 PM
very nice idea, great feel to it.
couple crits:

their arms seem a little short.

the water surface needs some reflections.

keep going! great potential here, kind of reminds me of something out of heavy metal.:thumbsup:

Newke
05-27-2004, 10:05 PM
Thank you for your c&c paladin6303 (wow there 's so many paladins int the world!)
I'll try to tweak a little bit the arms : they are not too short, but they might be in perspective and not straight up, we must see them in short (Hope you think what i mean, my english is not totally correct i think...) and that is not very evident here.
And about reflection, i cannot see where i can put reflection, because the surface water is just an thick line between the air and the water on this painting. The composition is "flat", if you se what mean. By the way, i'm gonna put somme caustics for sure.

Ok now it's time for another little update :bounce:

Newke
05-27-2004, 10:17 PM
I've worked on the background and make it deeper. I also add some lightings and glows on the wings. Need to harmonize the lights on the characters now.
ho, i must work on the underwater city too.


http://perso.club-internet.fr/nikos4/Ext_artworks/Color_Wip_7.27.05.2004.jpg

Newke
06-02-2004, 10:16 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/2240/2240_1086214589_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/2240/2240_1086214589_large.jpg)

Next step in coloring...

sketchfiend
06-03-2004, 01:28 AM
The glowing effects on the wings and tentacles look awesome, its added a really nice dynamic to the image the two characters are really working well together.

The city in the background still doesnt really have the right look, id almost be tempted to loose it altogether and do something else.

One example might be that the woman has jumped up out of the water so that the winged man can kiss her. The pose she is in could very well be suited to that kind look. Like a dolphin that jumps out of the water type of thing. And the city could then be replaced with the water splashing out and waves crashing around them as she jumps out to meet him.

As ive said the characters are looking really great, but the background still needs tweaking. Ive also noticed that with it in the background it sort of puts off the effect that she is floating just off of the surface of the water, its a little distracting, if you know what i mean. sorry in advance, i mean i could be wrong, but....:shrug:

Keep it up though:thumbsup: :D :beer:

Newke
06-03-2004, 01:14 PM
Thanks for your comments sketchfiend : i'm on to tweak some things on my painting but i think i'm not going to change the background drastically.

I must work on the water and the woman before thinking about the city. I'll see after that.

Thanks again for your comments :thumbsup: :beer:

Newke
06-03-2004, 09:25 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/2240/2240_1086297912_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/2240/2240_1086297912_large.jpg)

My little update of the day.
This one is dedicated to my friend Riddick "Big boobs lover" ;)

Avatarr
06-03-2004, 09:43 PM
Great work. I'm very impressed with your work and the artistic ideea is very good also. Congrats and good luck.

Newke
06-04-2004, 02:57 PM
Thanks for your comment Avatar :bounce:
Good luck to you. You've made a great work woth your painting, too !

Newke
06-04-2004, 06:00 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/2240/2240_1086372048_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/2240/2240_1086372048_large.jpg)

Add some water, bubbles, reflections...

Newke
06-04-2004, 06:03 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/2240/2240_1086372230_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/2240/2240_1086372230_large.jpg)

I add this fliped version of my painting, because i need your opinion, you who are reading this post.
I need YOU ! Which version do you prefer? the original one or the flipped one ?

Thanks in advance for you help :)

0-2
06-04-2004, 06:26 PM
The flipped version, theres a nicer line for the eye to follow, down the wings to the smooch, yes definitely the flipped version for me.
Oh and might I add that it looks great, I like the water allot.:thumbsup:

londero
06-04-2004, 08:45 PM
Dude :applause:

Congratulations for your magnific job. The idea is sensational!

I prefer the original version, because the eye movement in the read of image is positive, finishing the read to right and above.
I think with the inversion this movement can be lost. Well, is only a opinion, the image original is more cool to me.

well, back to work.

keep this fantastic job! :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

force.

my entry (http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=141195)

Riddick
06-04-2004, 10:40 PM
I don't know.:shrug:

sketchfiend
06-05-2004, 02:39 AM
Youve jsut hit the nail on the head with these last two updates,:bowdown: the water line effect youve created has really just hit your image off. Its just looking better and better, Its the little details the bring it all to life, the bubbles and the surface riples in the water have just done it for me. AWESOME job.

And as to which version i would prefer, i would say the flipped version as what O-2 said, for some reason which i cannot explain the eye seems to follow the image nicely. The flow of the image doesnt seem to be as forced as in the original one...if that makes any sense. hehehe

Im extremely impressed with your latest updates bud, keep it up.:thumbsup: :D :beer:

Neozoom
06-05-2004, 09:18 AM
For my part I prefer the original pic not the reversed ;)
because of the fact you didi it in this sens so reversed it looks unatural drawn...

anyway great job !
let see more clearly the face of the girl ;)

Newke
06-05-2004, 02:57 PM
1000 Thanks for you guys, for your opinion.
The results is : 2 points for the original one and 2 points for the flipped one....
I think i must take a decision by myself :hmm:
Ok i'll see later but i think i'll keep the original one. I used to work on it so the flipped version seems strange to me...don"t know why...Arf.

Thanks again guys !:thumbsup:

Newke
06-05-2004, 04:34 PM
Here's a little close-up :

http://perso.club-internet.fr/nikos4/Ext_artworks/close_up1.jpg

londero
06-05-2004, 08:54 PM
Newke!!!

superb! great details!!! :bounce: :bounce:

hei dude, thanks for your post in my tread.

I like you job, specially the lights and your reflexes. Very, very cool.

ah! the imageof transparent ocean is AmAzInG!!! How did you make this?

keep this wonderful job.

Force, and continues!!!

:thumbsup:

my entry (http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=141195)

londero
06-05-2004, 09:09 PM
hei, I forgot...

your avatar is very cool!!! Funny!!! hehehehe :applause:

Force!my entry (http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=141195)

Newke
06-05-2004, 09:39 PM
lol

Thanks to you londero !
This avatar took me some hours of hard work to achieve ;)

Don't thank me to post on your thread, this is deserved : your work is very insteresting and original, especially the mix technique with analog and digital. I've not seen many works like yours in the competition. Very fresh and inspirating, as i said. :bowdown:

For the water effect i used a special tool of Painter 8 : the distortion tool with the "thin distorto brush".
I proceed like this : i paint some loosy blue/green colors for the surface and i use this famous tool to "pull" the ripples in the wanted direction. The "grain" parameter adjust the power of the effect.
After that i drop the opacity and i add some foam with the FX "glow" tool (with some jitter). I use the thin distorto with the foam too, to help it following the ripples.
I've also added some reflection of the city background...i'll post a close-up later.

I don't know if the "thin distorto" effect exist in photoshop, but if it exist, i'll be happy if someone tell me how to achieve it.

oh...and the details in the precedent image are not finalized. I think i'm gonna sharp the flesh and add some underskin machinery to achieve a better mix between the metal part and the body.

Newke
06-06-2004, 09:41 AM
Here's another close-up :

http://perso.club-internet.fr/nikos4/Ext_artworks/close_up2.jpg

Wojtala
06-06-2004, 09:54 AM
I like Your idea - the kiss concept is more then very interesting..... and the painting is looking very impressive.

I suppose I will confuse You a little saying that I like the flipped version better :D

good luck! :D

Newke
06-06-2004, 05:09 PM
Thank you Ananke, you give me an idea for the title of my painting : I will now call it "The Kiss" :p

And yes, you are confusing me because you prefer the flipped version :wip:
Ok, i'll wait until the dead line to choose which version i will use for the final image, so other peoples are free to give their opinion..:bounce:

Thanks again Ananke :beer:

Russo
06-06-2004, 06:38 PM
wow. this is an impressive progress! I´ll keep one eye on this thread! keep going! ;)


cheers

Newke
06-07-2004, 09:39 AM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/2240/2240_1086601183_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/2240/2240_1086601183_large.jpg)

Another little update

Riddick
06-07-2004, 10:15 AM
The latest effects on the oil water are crazy.:p

Newke
06-07-2004, 11:00 AM
Russo -> Thank you very much ! I must admit that my two first attempt at coloring looks like...mmm...crap.
But after seeing all the great jobs on this challenge, i learned a lot and my painting, fortunality, has take a better way (i think).
This challenge helps me to progress and that's the goal !! (Special thanks to the CGtalk team ;) )
Thanks again Russo. :beer:

Riddick -> My oily water is less crazy than you :drool: :beer:

Newke
06-07-2004, 08:46 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/2240/2240_1086641167_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/2240/2240_1086641167_large.jpg)

Added some caustics and made some minor tweaks.
Comments and Critics are welcome :)

MrFreeman
06-07-2004, 09:02 PM
:) I can't believe I've not come across your thread before now....

really great image and the details are superb. It's a real shame that because of limitations of image size for posting that you lose some of the definition on the wide as I bet this will look great as a high res final image.

Great work!!:applause: :thumbsup:

Squibbit
06-07-2004, 09:07 PM
dude , this has taken a leap from the early pics ! yea
they was just sketches , but anyways

I especially like the glowy parts , the closeup was pretty
cool too

Newke
06-08-2004, 08:17 AM
Wow guys ! Thank you very much for your great comments !
I'm happy that you like my image ! Your works are so amazing, that' an honor for me :bowdown:

About the details, i'm thinking i made too much of them, because they will not probably be visible on the final image...i don't really know... So maybe i'm gonna limit the level of details, i'd like to have some opinions about that, i have some doubts.

And i don't understand why the image i submit appears always in a bad quality (blurry) on my thread, it seems that it is recompressed after the submission....maybe i post too large images. :surprised

btw, thank you guys, it's great to have feedback from all of you :)

MrFreeman
06-08-2004, 08:30 AM
:) the image isn't blured, it's just that you don't get the level of quality on postings as you do when you look at it high res on your own computer in Painter or Photoshop....just seems a shame that we won't see all these great works at that high resolution...but maybe I've just been sat in a dark room for too long and don't know what I'm on about...

Don't worry about it, your work looks great anyway and we're all in the same boat so to speak..:wavey:

Newke
06-08-2004, 02:10 PM
:) Thank you for your reply MrFreeman. I looked with a lens at the other works and the result is blurred too. You're right, we are in the same boat.:shrug:
I decided to post directly a big closup :p, i work on the man'skin details

http://perso.club-internet.fr/nikos4/Ext_artworks/close_up3.jpg

Newke
06-17-2004, 09:53 AM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/2240/2240_1087465993_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/2240/2240_1087465993_large.jpg)

Here's the final image. I stop here, no more inspiration, no more ideas. That's over for me.
I was happy to participate in this challenge. I learned a lot from you, guys !! :)
That was a tremendous experience !
Good luck everybody !!

Newke
06-17-2004, 05:37 PM
I've found this french song on the web. It illustrate perfectly the idea of my painting.
Here's the french version, sung by the french singer Juliette Greco :


"Un petit poisson, un petit oiseau"

Paroles: J.M. Rivière. Musique: Gérard Bourgeois 1966
© 1966 Disque Philips

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Un petit poisson, un petit oiseau
S'aimaient d'amour tendre
Mais comment s'y prendre
Quand on est dans l'eau
Un petit poisson, un petit oiseau
S'aimaient d'amour tendre
Mais comment s'y prendre
Quand on est là-haut

Quand on est là-haut
Perdu aux creux des nuages
On regarde en bas pour voir
Son amour qui nage
Et l'on voudrait bien changer
Ses ailes en nageoires
Les arbres en plongeoir
Le ciel en baignoire

Un petit poisson, un petit oiseau
S'aimaient d'amour tendre
Mais comment s'y prendre
Quand on est là-haut
Un petit poisson, un petit oiseau
S'aimaient d'amour tendre
Mais comment s'y prendre
Quand on est dans l'eau

Quand on est dans l'eau
On veut que vienne l'orage
Qui apporterait du ciel
Bien plus qu'un message
Qui pourrait d'un coup
Changer au cours du voyage
Des plumes en écailles
Des ailes en chandail
Des algues en paille.

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I'll put a translated version in the next post

Newke
06-17-2004, 05:39 PM
I've found a song on the web that illustrate perfectly the subject of my painting.
It is sung by the french singer Juliette Greco.
Here's the french lyrics :


Juliette Gréco
Un petit poisson, un petit oiseau

Paroles: J.M. Rivière. Musique: Gérard Bourgeois 1966
© 1966 Disque Philips

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{Refrain:}
Un petit poisson, un petit oiseau
S'aimaient d'amour tendre
Mais comment s'y prendre
Quand on est dans l'eau
Un petit poisson, un petit oiseau
S'aimaient d'amour tendre
Mais comment s'y prendre
Quand on est là-haut

Quand on est là-haut
Perdu aux creux des nuages
On regarde en bas pour voir
Son amour qui nage
Et l'on voudrait bien changer
Ses ailes en nageoires
Les arbres en plongeoir
Le ciel en baignoire

Un petit poisson, un petit oiseau
S'aimaient d'amour tendre
Mais comment s'y prendre
Quand on est là-haut
Un petit poisson, un petit oiseau
S'aimaient d'amour tendre
Mais comment s'y prendre
Quand on est dans l'eau

Quand on est dans l'eau
On veut que vienne l'orage
Qui apporterait du ciel
Bien plus qu'un message
Qui pourrait d'un coup
Changer au cours du voyage
Des plumes en écailles
Des ailes en chandail
Des algues en paille.

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Newke
06-17-2004, 05:40 PM
I've found a song on the web that illustrate perfectly the subject of my painting.
It is sung by the french singer Juliette Greco.
Here's the french lyrics :


Juliette Gréco
Un petit poisson, un petit oiseau

Paroles: J.M. Rivière. Musique: Gérard Bourgeois 1966
© 1966 Disque Philips

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

{Refrain:}
Un petit poisson, un petit oiseau
S'aimaient d'amour tendre
Mais comment s'y prendre
Quand on est dans l'eau
Un petit poisson, un petit oiseau
S'aimaient d'amour tendre
Mais comment s'y prendre
Quand on est là-haut

Quand on est là-haut
Perdu aux creux des nuages
On regarde en bas pour voir
Son amour qui nage
Et l'on voudrait bien changer
Ses ailes en nageoires
Les arbres en plongeoir
Le ciel en baignoire

Un petit poisson, un petit oiseau
S'aimaient d'amour tendre
Mais comment s'y prendre
Quand on est là-haut
Un petit poisson, un petit oiseau
S'aimaient d'amour tendre
Mais comment s'y prendre
Quand on est dans l'eau

Quand on est dans l'eau
On veut que vienne l'orage
Qui apporterait du ciel
Bien plus qu'un message
Qui pourrait d'un coup
Changer au cours du voyage
Des plumes en écailles
Des ailes en chandail
Des algues en paille.

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Newke
06-17-2004, 05:43 PM
I've found a song on the web that illustrate perfectly the subject of my painting.
It is sung by the french singer Juliette Greco.
Here's the french lyrics :


Juliette Gréco
Un petit poisson, un petit oiseau

Paroles: J.M. Rivière. Musique: Gérard Bourgeois 1966
© 1966 Disque Philips

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

{Refrain:}
Un petit poisson, un petit oiseau
S'aimaient d'amour tendre
Mais comment s'y prendre
Quand on est dans l'eau
Un petit poisson, un petit oiseau
S'aimaient d'amour tendre
Mais comment s'y prendre
Quand on est là-haut

Quand on est là-haut
Perdu aux creux des nuages
On regarde en bas pour voir
Son amour qui nage
Et l'on voudrait bien changer
Ses ailes en nageoires
Les arbres en plongeoir
Le ciel en baignoire

Un petit poisson, un petit oiseau
S'aimaient d'amour tendre
Mais comment s'y prendre
Quand on est là-haut
Un petit poisson, un petit oiseau
S'aimaient d'amour tendre
Mais comment s'y prendre
Quand on est dans l'eau

Quand on est dans l'eau
On veut que vienne l'orage
Qui apporterait du ciel
Bien plus qu'un message
Qui pourrait d'un coup
Changer au cours du voyage
Des plumes en écailles
Des ailes en chandail
Des algues en paille.

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Newke
06-17-2004, 05:45 PM
I've found a song on the web that illustrate perfectly the subject of my painting.
It is sung by the french singer Juliette Greco.
Here's the french lyrics :


Juliette Gréco
Un petit poisson, un petit oiseau

Paroles: J.M. Rivière. Musique: Gérard Bourgeois 1966
© 1966 Disque Philips

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

{Refrain:}
Un petit poisson, un petit oiseau
S'aimaient d'amour tendre
Mais comment s'y prendre
Quand on est dans l'eau
Un petit poisson, un petit oiseau
S'aimaient d'amour tendre
Mais comment s'y prendre
Quand on est là-haut

Quand on est là-haut
Perdu aux creux des nuages
On regarde en bas pour voir
Son amour qui nage
Et l'on voudrait bien changer
Ses ailes en nageoires
Les arbres en plongeoir
Le ciel en baignoire

Un petit poisson, un petit oiseau
S'aimaient d'amour tendre
Mais comment s'y prendre
Quand on est là-haut
Un petit poisson, un petit oiseau
S'aimaient d'amour tendre
Mais comment s'y prendre
Quand on est dans l'eau

Quand on est dans l'eau
On veut que vienne l'orage
Qui apporterait du ciel
Bien plus qu'un message
Qui pourrait d'un coup
Changer au cours du voyage
Des plumes en écailles
Des ailes en chandail
Des algues en paille.

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Newke
06-17-2004, 06:08 PM
Holy S..t !! I thought that my post did'nt work !!! And now, there's sixth the same message...
:shrug:

Newke
06-18-2004, 07:44 PM
Here's the translated (by google...) version of the previous song.
Sorry again for the quintuple post.

Juliette Gréco
A small fish, a small bird

Words: J.M. River . Music: Gerard Middle-class man 1966
© 1966 Philips Disc

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A small fish, a small bird
Loved tender love
But how to be caught there
When one is in water
A small fish, a small bird
Liked tender love
But how to be caught there
When one is up there

When one is up there
Lost with the hollows of the clouds
One looks in bottom to see
Its love which swims
And one would like to change
Its wings in fins
Trees in diving board
Sky out of bath-tub

A small fish, a small bird
Loved tender love
But how to be caught there
When one is up there
A small fish, a small bird
Liked tender love
But how to be caught there
When one is in water

When one is in water
It is wanted that comes the storm
Who would bring sky
Much more than one message
Who could of a blow
To change during the voyage
Feathers in scales
Wings in pullover
Algae in straw.

Riddick
06-18-2004, 09:25 PM
Good Work Newke!
I know that it was certainly your must biggest picture ever made!
And congratulation for all your efforts!
Good luck man!!:beer:

rol56
06-20-2004, 05:02 PM
:thumbsup: wow tres beau travail!!

Newke
06-20-2004, 09:36 PM
rol56 -> Thank you very much for your nice comment :bounce:

Riddick -> Thank you, your help and your c&cs helped me a lot! :bowdown:

Neozoom
06-21-2004, 01:45 PM
Excellent man ;)
hope you'll have book ^^

fredconv
06-24-2004, 06:53 PM
Hi, salut

en francais desolé pour les autres :P

je trouve ce concept vraiment excellent :)
non seulement tu as resussi a reunion l organique et le metal ^^ (bon ok c etait le theme lol) mais aussi l air et l eau deux elements essentiels a la vie et la compostion est top :thumbsup:

excelente image en tout cas ;)

Newke
06-25-2004, 08:56 AM
:bounce: Ho, merci Nov@ pour tes compliments !!

berniebernie
06-26-2004, 10:12 AM
quite impressive :thumbsup:

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