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Psotek
03-17-2004, 06:52 PM
Bartosz Nowakowski has entered the Machineflesh 2D Challenge.

Psotek
03-19-2004, 09:44 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/1875/1875_1079736241_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/1875/1875_1079736241_large.jpg)

Hey everyone,

This is definately a tough challenge. Its hard to come up with something that hasnt been done before, or something too cliche.

Anyways, heres what I have been thinking about. Still thinking of ideas to incorporate, but here is the initial concept.

element5
03-19-2004, 11:31 PM
interesting so far.... will be watching for updates :)

Psotek
03-19-2004, 11:52 PM
Hey thanks element,

Im just worried that this idea might now flow with the guidelines of the challange. What do you think?

element5
03-20-2004, 12:04 AM
hiya Bartosz,

well i think it depends on the story behind it, It looks to me that there is a religious theme maybe a ritual. could it be a group that has devoted there lives to the dearly departed and for them to do there work they have modified themselves to be emortal or just to prolong there lives. They may have use medievil methods but looking at the background i see modern buildings so it is in the not to far future.

I hope that helps




:beer:

Anga
03-20-2004, 12:30 AM
Hello,
I like the idea. IT is looking good and I cannot wait to see the new images you will be coming up with for this. No worries Everything will come along in this and ideas will keep flowing, it will match with the criteria if it does not yet ( I think it does very icely though :)
I just have a suggestion. I know this is a sketch but for the backgroudn I think that you should have some more advanced skyscrapers..personally I think of robots as a future thing. I dont know if that is what they are asking from this contest. But when I see robots I think future with different buioldings. Just a thought.
Great idea!
:applause:

Keep working it is going to be interesting to see this progress

:wavey:
:thumbsup:

Psotek
03-20-2004, 12:57 AM
Well I was thinking its more like a play on the Deposition of Christ.

Psotek
03-20-2004, 02:00 AM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/1875/1875_1079751603_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/1875/1875_1079751603_large.jpg)

Ive worked on the sketch a bit more. Havent had much time recently to get any serious work done on it, but here is what I have now.

-Bartosz

Psotek
03-20-2004, 05:16 AM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/1875/1875_1079763381_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/1875/1875_1079763381_large.jpg)

Some more refining and ideas in this one.

Psotek
03-20-2004, 07:27 AM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/1875/1875_1079771259_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/1875/1875_1079771259_large.jpg)

I added some colour to get a better feel for the composition.

-Bartosz

element5
03-20-2004, 09:53 AM
looking good dude...:)

leigh
03-20-2004, 03:12 PM
Bartosz,

I actually wanted to reply here because I feel that right now your image doesn't actually quite fit with the challenge guidelines. Your image appears to show a number of robots removing a person from a cross. The challenge is about machinery merging with flesh - this means no pure robots. I struggle to find how it is that you plan to implement the concept of a "mechanically enhanced character" into your scene.

Please clarify. I would suggest that you re-read the challenge rules and guidelines to ensure that you proceed on the right track :)

jeromoo
03-20-2004, 03:57 PM
I would have agreed with Leigh's comment a while ago, but then I saw the 'pinkish' colour that suggests some flesh on the heads of the 'robots'. However, it is not that obvious enough, and it look just like another of those 'Terminators' that the organisers are tired of looking at already.

So, please do be careful with the concept.

Psotek
03-20-2004, 06:43 PM
My idea was to have humans with mechanically enginered limbs taking Christ down from the cross. The story behind it is that if Christ would have come in lets say, 3000AD, the people taking him down from the cross wouldnt be the same as in AD33.

Just my thought.

Psotek
03-20-2004, 07:17 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/1875/1875_1079813820_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/1875/1875_1079813820_large.jpg)

Ok so I took your concerns into consideration and re-worked my ideas. I did a rough sketch to get it down, what you think?

-Bartosz

Psotek
03-20-2004, 11:28 PM
Damnit, no... Im deciding to re-work my whole idea, but keep it epic like the deposition image. I want to really intergrate the mechanism into the body, and I think I got an idea. Sketch will come soon.


-Bartosz

Psotek
03-21-2004, 03:17 AM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/1875/1875_1079842670_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/1875/1875_1079842670_large.jpg)

Here is a rough sketch of the idea I have. I will post the worked over version soon.

-Bartosz

Psotek
03-21-2004, 03:19 AM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/1875/1875_1079842785_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/1875/1875_1079842785_large.jpg)

Here is that rough sketch after I worked on it a bit more. Got all the details I wanted to get in.

-Bartosz

Psotek
03-21-2004, 03:59 AM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/1875/1875_1079845187_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/1875/1875_1079845187_large.jpg)

Here is the same concept, but with I changed the bottom half, and altered what is coming out from his pant legs. I think now it looks more like a torture scene, which is what I wanted.

-Bartosz

CLONEOPS
03-21-2004, 04:18 AM
found ya:thumbsup:
The cross guy looks like it would be a better idea,
the one with the main body actually on the cross .
Then you could have some real brassy gold internals
glowing outward?
Make the cross mech and part of his arms and feet joined up?
i think second pic is little vague on the mech theme for now, but you are still developing stuff up sooo........
catchya later :thumbsup:

Psotek
03-21-2004, 06:13 AM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/1875/1875_1079853193_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/1875/1875_1079853193_large.jpg)

Some more refined ideas on the illustration. On the left wall there is going to be a mechancial contraption that is attached to the tubes. Stay tuned.

-Bartosz

Psotek
03-21-2004, 06:21 AM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/1875/1875_1079853715_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/1875/1875_1079853715_large.jpg)

Some more refined ideas on the illustration. On the left wall there is going to be a mechancial contraption that is attached to the tubes. Stay tuned.

-Bartosz

Psotek
03-21-2004, 07:20 AM
Why it double posted, i dont know.... sorry though!

cabertevon
03-21-2004, 07:57 AM
Awesome detailed sketch!!!

You work damn fast.

Psotek
03-22-2004, 05:09 AM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/1875/1875_1079935752_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/1875/1875_1079935752_large.jpg)

Added a few mor elements to this scene. More to come soon.

-Bartosz

Psotek
03-22-2004, 04:49 PM
I know alot of people have been telling me this doesnt match the idea of the challenge, and that my image and design do not have a "function" or "purpose", but I just wanted to say that my work is always very surrealistic and symbolic. I firmly stand behind my philosophy that art should stand by istelf, without any explanation from the artist what-so-ever. It is the artists job to create the work, and the viewers job to figure it out.

-Bartosz

Psotek
03-22-2004, 05:31 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/1875/1875_1079980306_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/1875/1875_1079980306_large.jpg)

Added even more elements. Still need to work on the right side of the image.

-Bartosz

hydrophobic
03-22-2004, 06:40 PM
There is something different here. It is thought provoking with all the machines and location. I like it. It seems you have a story here with the technology stretching out of the flesh. The character seems to be reaching for nature or becoming one with it, but technology is steadily pulling him back. It's like a tug of war between mankind and God. Plus, the sickle usually represents death. Maybe you could use more iconography like the crucifix on the wall when you started. So far, it looks interesting. Maybe you could define the flesh a little more., but it's definitely different, and I think that counts for a whole lot.

Psotek
03-22-2004, 10:06 PM
Hey Hydrophobic,

Thanks for your comments. You pretty much got it dead on. Its supposed to be a kind of torture, with the idea being much like you described it. Im glad you tink I should use iconology like the crucifix, because I took it out considering the whole religious theme wasn't working out for me earlier. I will try to see if I can incorporate it back into the piece, but right now im focusing heavily on the mechanical elements.

Thanks again for your comments,

-Bartosz

adrianis
03-23-2004, 11:52 PM
That's a lot of work!

I wonder how it will end with colors

Til now, remembers me Gustavo Doré

good luck!:thumbsup:

Psotek
03-24-2004, 04:34 AM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/1875/1875_1080106489_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/1875/1875_1080106489_large.jpg)

Here is another update. It should be looking more recognizable as to what the function of the contraption is. Any ideas?

-Bartosz

Tommy Lee
03-24-2004, 05:11 AM
U are sick man...LOVE IT:love:

Nothing to crit... just keep going,.. very unique!:thumbsup:

Cheerz

Tommy Lee

CLONEOPS
03-24-2004, 06:45 AM
good sublims.
90/ out of a 100 will never see it if its in black and white
gonna color it?

Pumpuli
03-24-2004, 01:11 PM
Nice... I like it in black and white. It reminds me of very old book illustrations. Maybe you shouldn´t color it?

Mabe those vertical "pipes" on your machine could hold (what on earth are those in english?!?) prayer mills. You know those loose pilars in Tibetan temples, which have prayers engraved in them, and when you roll them, the prayers are kind of read or flown to the gods. Then it could be an automated praying machine, which could fit the kind of a religious theme you have.

Maybe it's an absolution machine.

Psotek
03-24-2004, 09:32 PM
Yes the image will definately be in colour. I will be getting to the colouring stage soon, but there is still quite a few more things I would like to add to the image.

What im tring to do is a kind of scene where everyone is dependant on one another. The machine feeds from the tree, the human feeds from the machine, and the tree feeds from the human. Or, it can be the other way, where the human feeds from the tree, the machine feeds from the human, and then the tree feeds from the machine. Its almost like a circle of dependance.


-Bartosz

viag
03-24-2004, 09:51 PM
oh i really like this ! incredible style , i want to see more !

sonicstrawbery
03-24-2004, 09:56 PM
such great idea. It's very original and deep.

I can't wait to see more :buttrock:

Psotek
03-25-2004, 03:56 AM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/1875/1875_1080190600_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/1875/1875_1080190600_large.jpg)

I did some updates on the mechanism, and also started to play around with colour, just to get a sense of how things will look. Any comments are welcome.

-Bartosz

Tommy Lee
03-25-2004, 04:01 AM
No crits at all... love it:thumbsup:

Good colorchoice, gives it the feel of an old print...:beer:

adrianis
03-25-2004, 03:46 PM
I like it so much!:bounce:

IMHO...The color brings to life the scene :arteest:

:thumbsup:

Psotek
03-25-2004, 08:16 PM
Im glad you guys like the colour. Im still debating whether or not the yellowish colour of the clouds is suitable. Althought any other colour would start making the piece look a little messy. Maybe I should subdue the yellow hue a bit? Im also going to smooth out the clouds, make them more "fluffy".

-Bartosz

Psotek
03-26-2004, 06:44 AM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/1875/1875_1080287053_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/1875/1875_1080287053_large.jpg)

Took away the colour for now, as it was just a test anyways. Ive re-arranged alot of elements and I finally think Im sticking to this layout. What else did I do... oh yah, I smoothed out the whole piece, to make it easier on the eyes and to also get it ready for the base colour. I Smoothed out some aspects, and added a bit of depth-of-field.

-Bartosz

Psotek
03-26-2004, 06:46 AM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/1875/1875_1080287192_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/1875/1875_1080287192_large.jpg)

Just a close up. Notice the blurred human figure. I will be adding details soon.

-Bartosz

Psotek
03-27-2004, 05:47 AM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/1875/1875_1080370021_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/1875/1875_1080370021_large.jpg)

Beginning to colour the piece.

Psotek
03-27-2004, 06:17 AM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/1875/1875_1080371846_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/1875/1875_1080371846_large.jpg)

The machine layer isnt in, as you may notice. Il put it back in during the next update. I just didnt want to work while it was on.

-Bartosz

Psotek
03-27-2004, 11:43 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/1875/1875_1080434580_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/1875/1875_1080434580_large.jpg)

Got in all the colours I want now. Will be adding details and then the machine layer.

-Bartosz

Psotek
03-27-2004, 11:59 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/1875/1875_1080435574_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/1875/1875_1080435574_large.jpg)

Greater contrast and more saturation. Which one works better?

-Bartosz

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