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element5
03-17-2004, 12:40 PM
mark alford has entered the Machineflesh 2D Challenge.

element5
03-19-2004, 12:02 AM
Ok fellow artists,

I have thought long and hard, I went through a lot of ideas. Life forms with military hardware fused to there bodies, Life forms being put through torture an existance of horror. Also life forms who have been turned into life force batteries and even a person turned into a car.

I came to the idea of doing an elf-like being who wants to fly, Like a bird or a faerie. Who has travelled to the wizard of the woods to undergo the cosmetic transformation of lightening her bone structure and to have the fabricated wings fused into her skeleton. A somewhat painfull procedure, but with a few postion wipped up by the wizard to make it more bearable.
The frame of the wings are made of a light weight elven steel which is hollow within and a highland Mystic oak. The skin of the wings are made from the saliva of a ground dwelling spider which is mixed with the sap of a worm tree. Now she can fly like a bird...

I hope i am on the right track, my interpretation of this challenge is of a Machine into flesh.


http://apache.airnet.com.au/~element5/wings1.jpg

element5
03-19-2004, 12:10 AM
This is the next step to get the shape of the wings right, I was going for 3 on each side but have decided to go for 2. There is a knuckle joint in each wing.

http://apache.airnet.com.au/~element5/wings3.jpg

element5
03-19-2004, 12:13 AM
I have found this reference pic of a dragonfly for the details.

http://apache.airnet.com.au/~element5/wings4.jpg

element5
03-19-2004, 12:17 AM
Here i have found a good pic for reference, I am going for a transparent film for the wing skin.

http://apache.airnet.com.au/~element5/wings5.jpg

muyyatin
03-19-2004, 12:35 AM
Very cool idea... personally I like the first drawing where the wing connects with two parts instead of two separate parts... if you know what I mean. Looking good

element5
03-19-2004, 01:52 AM
Thanx muyyatin,

I do like the first one too that would be more like a butterfly, but when i started looking at practical looking designs the 2 seperate ones won. The first design is too bulky and when the wings retract down when not in flight sticks out too far. With the 2 seperate ones the wings can go down flush along side the figure. With 2 inderpendant wings makes better control and stability like a dragonfly......I know i think too much and it is only fantasy LOL.

Thanx again for ur comment

element5
03-19-2004, 03:19 AM
Ok here is my concept sketch. I want her to have pale skin and blonde hair and green eyes. The look of the metal in the wings will be like jewellery and i want it to have engraving. There will be inlayed wood and gem stones imbedded. I would like the texture of the wings to be like a stain glass look. The image is of an elf-like creature and has recently had wings attached there will be stitching and bruising and maybe a touch of purple blood.

Well thats the outline....

http://apache.airnet.com.au/~element5/wings-concept.jpg

element5
03-20-2004, 10:40 AM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/1765/1765_1079779253_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/1765/1765_1079779253_large.jpg)

I came to the idea of doing an elf-like being who wants to fly, Like a bird or a faerie. Who has travelled to the wizard of the woods to undergo the cosmetic transformation of lightening her bone structure and to have the fabricated wings fused into her skeleton. A somewhat painfull procedure, but with a few postion wipped up by the wizard to make it more bearable.
The frame of the wings are made of a light weight elven steel which is hollow within and a highland Mystic oak. The skin of the wings are made from the saliva of a ground dwelling spider which is mixed with the sap of a worm tree. Now she can fly like a bird...

element5
03-24-2004, 02:57 AM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/1765/1765_1080097078_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/1765/1765_1080097078_large.jpg)

This is the ine work mainly maping out and refined lines, The wings being the main focus. I am using a Wacom drawing tablet and I tell u that makes drawing so much easier and faster. Now on to the colour.....
Comments welcome :-)

Tommy Lee
03-24-2004, 05:29 AM
Nice progress so far... One crit: Her eyes look a lil' off.

Welcome to the challenge and good Luck:beer:

Tommy Lee

element5
03-24-2004, 05:53 AM
Hiya,

Thanx Tommy Lee... :)

Can u give me more about the eyes so I can fix it before I get to far into the project.

Cheers

Shaf33k
03-24-2004, 06:47 AM
not to sound like a dirty old man but it it would be nice to see more of her and how the wings incorporate into the chest. And you're right the Dragonfly is one of the best flyers around. A couple of questions are you going for a more 3d rendered look or a more flat shaded look? and iare you going for a more realistic proportions or a more animated look?
Anyway, good start keep it coming.
Ciao!

eupee
03-24-2004, 10:46 AM
looking good southerner :thumbsup: (not intentionally offencive since we are from the same southern state).

i love the section of the wings that connect to the body, they appear sturdy and soforth. i like the wing texture too. And i agree with Shafeek Amiruddin, it'd be cool to see more of her, maybe shes got more enhancments! and im SERIOUSLY not talking bout her fun bags...

she might have liitle stabilizing wings or somthing...

its Good though... im keen to see further development.

element5
03-24-2004, 12:20 PM
Hiya guys....

Shafeek Amiruddin
The wings are attached to the shoulder blades and spine. I am sorry but the design didn't include her breasts...LOL But I will give her a boob lift so it is in the frame. ;)
I want to go for a realistic but fantasy look, i want to do her skin pale and her body wafe-like. I am really keen on manga-style drawing but trying to do my own style.

Eupee
Hey there again fellow southerner, The view of her is totally intentional I wanted to focus in on a part of her and leave some to your imagination.

Thanx for ur comments and i think we all love BOOBS lol :drool:

Tommy Lee
03-25-2004, 06:14 AM
I think her right eye is a lil' to high. But its not really a major thing.

Cheerz:beer:

element5
03-25-2004, 11:28 AM
Thanx Tommy,

I can see that I am starting the colour now and i will adjust it as I go, I also noticed that the forground arm is a little thick.

:beer:

daxcat
03-25-2004, 11:34 AM
I agree, this is looking really nice and I love the way you're referring to existing "natural" sources. the detail is fabulous so I'd like to see a more realistic interpretation of the girl... and yes i think it would look great with more body aswell.

good luck!

element5
03-26-2004, 02:12 AM
Here I go starting to do th colour now.

I thought i would start with the eyes and work out.

http://apache.airnet.com.au/~element5/face-1.jpg

http://apache.airnet.com.au/~element5/face-2.jpg

Shaf33k
03-26-2004, 02:41 AM
element might I suggest giving her chin more definintion. The alignment of her nose and lips indicate one plane but the chin curves or disappers from that plane I guess maybe it just seems a little round.
Keep it up. like the use of reflective highlights form the wings.

element5
03-27-2004, 12:10 AM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/1765/1765_1080346200_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/1765/1765_1080346200_large.jpg)

Face....I have adjusted the eyes, nose and mouth and I am going for 2 light sources. Fireplace and window (daylight)

element5
03-27-2004, 12:19 AM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/1765/1765_1080346786_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/1765/1765_1080346786_large.jpg)

Body..... Just putting in block colours to figure out lighting. I thinned out the foreground arm. I am also adding more detail where the wings go in through the skin.

cris castro
03-27-2004, 05:30 PM
i think her left eye is two millimeters away but that's not a major problem

element5
03-31-2004, 01:32 PM
more to come soon...

element5
03-31-2004, 01:42 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/1765/1765_1080740569_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/1765/1765_1080740569_large.jpg)

Hiya again,

Here i have done more work on the skin and started on the wings. I also moved her shoulder up and back so she has more of a shrug happening.

element5
03-31-2004, 01:45 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/1765/1765_1080740741_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/1765/1765_1080740741_large.jpg)

Here i have got stuck into doing the detail for the wings. I am mixing metal and wood together. some gold trim.

Drumwhore
03-31-2004, 05:07 PM
looking good :) I like the details on the wings!
One thing bothers me: her jaw seems to be too rounded, I'd cut it a bit from the chin till the intersection of the hairstrand next to her ear..
Good job though! :beer:

eupee
04-01-2004, 04:30 AM
yah.. thats great detai on the wings.. specially where all the joins are near her shouder blades... great stuff!

element5
04-01-2004, 08:20 AM
thanx drumwhore and eupee.....:)

I can see what u mean i forgot to put the jaw bit in.

i will fix that cheers

bonestudio
04-01-2004, 08:31 AM
very good idea of using insectoids wings, and very well rendered as machine elements.

Good luck for the coloring ! You can be inspired by a Steven stahlberg work http://www.androidblues.com/

element5
04-01-2004, 10:44 AM
hello bonestudio,

I have become aware of Stevens work since i got a copy of expose 1. Love his work...

Thanx for ur comments :)

element5
04-06-2004, 01:04 AM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/1765/1765_1081209842_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/1765/1765_1081209842_large.jpg)

Just starting the background, I am goig for a wallpaneled room with a window to the right and a fireplace to the left. There will be a firgure(wizard) looking through the doorway behind her. The whole background will be blurred out so the girl and her wings will be the main focus.

element5
04-06-2004, 01:09 AM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/1765/1765_1081210167_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/1765/1765_1081210167_large.jpg)

background step 2

element5
04-06-2004, 01:55 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/1765/1765_1081256149_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/1765/1765_1081256149_large.jpg)

getting close to what i wanted....

element5
04-13-2004, 04:39 AM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/1765/1765_1081827595_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/1765/1765_1081827595_large.jpg)

this is the background done for now, until images come together. C&C welcome.

eupee
04-13-2004, 09:38 AM
the background has a 3d quality to it.. i like it. and its not overly detailed to distract from the main character.

element5
04-27-2004, 01:53 AM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/1765/1765_1083027187_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/1765/1765_1083027187_large.jpg)

just doing the backwings before adding to the scene, will muck around more when all the parts of the scene come together.

element5
04-27-2004, 02:04 AM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/1765/1765_1083027873_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/1765/1765_1083027873_large.jpg)

having got the back wings in the background now i can work on the front wings .....woohoo!

element5
05-04-2004, 02:38 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/1765/1765_1083677899_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/1765/1765_1083677899_large.jpg)

I am upto putting the image together, bringing the background back wings and the figure together. I am pleased with my progress but feel i still have alot to do.

element5
05-04-2004, 02:42 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/1765/1765_1083678152_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/1765/1765_1083678152_large.jpg)

I have now added hair .....Yeah! Now for the foreground wings.

element5
05-19-2004, 02:37 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/1765/1765_1084973840_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/1765/1765_1084973840_large.jpg)

started the colouring of the foreground wings.

EmpY
05-21-2004, 05:55 AM
Hey, that is really sweet!!:thumbsup:

eupee
05-22-2004, 03:39 AM
this is coming along very nicely. shes starting to become part of the environment, and i still love the wing joins, they are awsome.

does her tattoe symbolise anything?

element5
05-22-2004, 06:23 AM
Thanx for ur comments guys, I was starting to wonder if anyone was looking ... :)

I am happy with the way she is coming along and i hope i can finish it before the deadline.

The Tattoo...... I am glad u asked.
I am a big 5th Element fan, hence my nickname Element5. I designed the Tattoo to compliment the piece, There are the 4 elements and in the center represents "Love". The leaves stretching up for "Growth" and the dagger shaped roots for "Strength"

:beer:

anildawre
05-22-2004, 06:46 AM
u have a good idea there. in the futhure your idea would be worth trying. would possibly solve the transport problems. wish u could add some background:bounce: :bounce:

thoughtcriminal
05-22-2004, 04:31 PM
I was just wandering about the 3D contest when I saw your post...

I'm participating in the 3D contest, and my idea also focuses on a girl with wings...

I'm deep in the modeling process, so you can drop by my thread and tell me what you think about my piece... I like your style.

Good luck!

:thumbsup:

Virtuoso
05-23-2004, 08:58 AM
Element5...........................Cheers to 5th element for sure...................Too cool.....................:beer:


And two thumbs up to your work here.............looking very nice.Like the design and execution thus far.Keep it up Mark...................:thumbsup: :thumbsup:

element5
05-29-2004, 12:34 AM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/1765/1765_1085787279_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/1765/1765_1085787279_large.jpg)

I have done the wings to look like stained glass and added a texture and a white glow. Now onto the wing supports....

MrFreeman
05-29-2004, 08:03 AM
Great development work.

I really like the wings and textures used - great detail.

Lots of potential here - I look forward to seeing how the girl looks when completed.

The work in this competition gets better and better!!:thumbsup:

SirGandolf
05-29-2004, 08:41 AM
Man a very detailed workflow of your concept and it's looks cool (really like the wings)
:thumbsup:

element5
05-30-2004, 08:35 AM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/1765/1765_1085902514_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/1765/1765_1085902514_large.jpg)

Ok i havn't got to the wing supports, I was not happy with the wings. I have played around with some lighting. I have also done somemore work on the lighting on the skin. Light from the fireplace to the left and light from the bay windows to the right. Its getting there.... What do u think???

element5
05-30-2004, 08:49 AM
Thanx MrFreeman and SirGandolf for ur kind comments.
I have tried to be consistant with my progress and I have spent a bit of time on the wings because they are the main focal point. I think i have been successful in getting the glassy looking wings and i feel the blue tint makes it.

:beer:

brunowerneck
05-30-2004, 08:51 AM
very nice coloring and mood...

Bruno (http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=136875&perpage=20&pagenumber=2)

londero
05-30-2004, 02:21 PM
out of question,

is a AMAZING job!!!:applause: :applause: :applause:

I loved the last colors... the green aspect to the shadows are very beautiful!!! really nice.

Maybe, in the right eye, the light can be fortify... try a bit of light in the iris... but it is only a suggest...

well dude, congratulations! your art is very very cool!!!:thumbsup:

Force.

Londero.

Falcorr
05-30-2004, 06:17 PM
Wings are looking super!:drool:

It also took me few of your evolution steps to notice that there is a weird man standing in the door opening.

But, but, i really think you should fix her face to look more normal. Do you agree? If u deal sweet and real looking face this piece will be great :thumbsup: I hope to see the rest of the pic at the wings quality.

Man you must do it! Play some ROCKY tunes and hit the pic! 3 weeks to go you can do it!:bowdown:

SirGandolf
05-30-2004, 08:33 PM
Cool wings element5 no crit just a :
the stain glass image has a good metal and crystaline look to it and her expression says "Hum, their added":) The un-powered image
The image with the greenish lights also has a good metal and crystaline her expresssion (though the same) says "Hum" as they powered up.:)
If going with a just powered up imagemaybe the greenish lights just on her and wings and reg lights on the backgroud giving the effect that the nano-materials in her and them (the wings) are asorbing the light (and other engery sources) for engery. no crit just a story line:)

Russo
05-30-2004, 09:16 PM
yeah I agree with Falcor_ about the head, I think the skin-flesh tones is working better, and it would be even better with the blue wings :beer:

cheers

Snotblow
06-02-2004, 12:36 AM
Very nice work....I can tell you've been working hard on this piece.:bounce:

element5
06-02-2004, 01:47 AM
Hiya all,

brunowerneck, Russo and Snotblow. Thanx :)

londero : I agree with more lighting in the eye, looks alittle flat....Thanx.

Falcor_ : I was o the floor with laughter about your comment about the wierd man...... He is the wizard checking on his patient LOL. I am not sure what u ment about her face. Did u mean more real? I have done her face to look unusual- elf like and i love big eyes :-) I also tried to get an Angelina Jolie look...

SirGandolf : I like thinking thanx, I am very happy with how the wings turned out i was a bit worried. As for nano technology these wings are magic powered being set in a Middle earth fantasy world.
I came to the idea of doing an elf-like being who wants to fly, Like a bird or a faerie. Who has travelled to the wizard of the woods to undergo the cosmetic transformation of lightening her bone structure and to have the fabricated wings fused into her skeleton. A somewhat painfull procedure, but with a few postions wipped up by the wizard to make it more bearable.
The frame of the wings are made of a light weight elven steel which is hollow within and a highland Mystic oak. The skin of the wings are made from the saliva of a ground dwelling spider which is mixed with the sap of a worm tree. Now she can fly like a bird...


:beer:

element5
06-02-2004, 01:55 AM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/1765/1765_1086137742_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/1765/1765_1086137742_large.jpg)

i realized that i hadn't submitted these properly. My reference pic's for the wings.

element5
06-02-2004, 02:04 AM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/1765/1765_1086138288_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/1765/1765_1086138288_large.jpg)

i realized that i hadn't submitted these properly. My reference pic's for the wings.

sketchfiend
06-02-2004, 02:59 AM
Great work bud, love what youve done to youu character, youve captured some really nice details in your composition, looks like the old dude in the background is having a bit of a perve at the fairy.;)

I like the fact that the machine element of the image needs no explanation, very clear cut and simple. Good references defiantely make a huge difference, and it shows in your image. Well done.:thumbsup:

Btw, nice to see another fellow Aussie and adelaidian at that. Keep the updates coming. :thumbsup: :beer:

element5
06-02-2004, 03:45 AM
cool another Adelaidian dweller,

Great to meet ya, Thanx for ur comments dude.
I surpose the old wizard would be a perve...lol he is probably about 400 years old....hehe

Thanx again. :beer:

element5
06-03-2004, 02:32 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/1765/1765_1086269520_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/1765/1765_1086269520_large.jpg)

playing with textures and lighting...

eupee
06-04-2004, 04:01 PM
i love those wings! they look better and better. the lighting is progressing also


Adelaide-

Its like a God@#m town meetin' in here!

element5
06-05-2004, 12:49 AM
Thanx Eupee,

I am glad the wings worked, it was very experimental. I knew what i wanted and played around until i got it. :beer:

element5
06-09-2004, 04:35 AM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/1765/1765_1086752103_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/1765/1765_1086752103_large.jpg)

Well this is it, This is the final colouring, I have stared at her for hours fixing this and that. I am pleased with the result.

element5
06-09-2004, 04:48 AM
Hiya guys and gals,

we have the milestones to do but can anyone tell me what the difference is between Final colour and the final image. If i have finished the colour and have nothing else to do on it wouldnt that be the final image...???
Does that mean i post the same image twice??

Is there a simple answer or am i just blonde LOL

I have enjoyed this challenge and have enjoyed watching other peoples work aswell.... goodluck to all :beer:

EmpY
06-09-2004, 05:08 AM
Lovely image element5!!! I like it sooo much and
I think she is incredibly beautiful! And your work on
the wings is just fantastic.
One of my favorites in 2D section for sure!
:applause:

element5
06-09-2004, 07:21 AM
Thanx empy,

your encouragement means alot.
I am glad u like it.

thanx dude :)

OrcOYoyo
06-09-2004, 11:51 AM
thanks for your comment about my dog's lif picture.
I also like yours and i have already been impressed by the shine of the wings. they look realy great.
i think you should think about adding a bit more time into the hair. right now it's a bit stiff and to voluminous. not looking bad but i think you could make em look better :)

good luck on the contest to you :)

element5
06-09-2004, 03:55 PM
Hi OrcOYoyo,

Thankyou my friend for taking the time to view my work, I will take your advice about the hair and see what i come up with. You know what its like when you work on a piece for so long. Nice to get anothers perspective. Thanx again.



:thumbsup:

ioio
06-09-2004, 04:31 PM
thanks for your appreciation. Fairy's wings are really beautiful, i like also the image of the chamber, if i could suggest something maybe you should make the face and hair more subtle, if you know what i mean, cheers!:wavey:

element5
06-10-2004, 11:35 AM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/1765/1765_1086863721_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/1765/1765_1086863721_large.jpg)

Ok this is a revised image, I have taken some volume from the hair and I have sofened the skin tones on the right side of her face. I am not sure but i think I am done.

element5
06-12-2004, 03:38 PM
Well i just finished the long task of uploading my image.

I have had fun and learnt a few things along the way, I am looking forward to the next challenge...:beer:

Thanx to the fellow artists for there imput.

Goodluck :wavey:

phoenix
06-12-2004, 03:57 PM
nice work

element5
07-17-2004, 06:31 AM
Thanx Phoenix,
Have been busy and came back to have a look. Some really nice pieces produced cant wait for the next challenge :)

Slav
07-17-2004, 05:17 PM
hi element5


its been some time since i looked at your thread and now is a good a time as any and i must say the wings turned out AWSOME

the face could of used a bit more care when you where finishing up the image but none the less still looks good.

great work

come by and let me know what you think of my finished entry if you have not seen it yet :P

thanks

Slav.

element5
07-18-2004, 01:48 AM
Thanx Slav,

Oh if we had more time i could have done alot more on it....hehe. But we had a deadline and i am happy with the finished product. :)

Take care Mark

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