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Ivars
03-16-2004, 07:18 AM
Ok so Ive decided for a well known character.
Harrison Ford as Rick Deckard in Blade Runner....

http://popcom.nu/3d/deckard.jpg

Good luck to all contestants!

dcp
03-16-2004, 11:29 AM
Woooonderful choice, this is gonna be very cool, this move is great!

Ivars
03-24-2004, 02:07 PM
Im planning to try some normal-mapping (Never tried it before)
So heres what Ive got so far....
Hopefully there is at least a slight resemblance :)

http://www.popcom.nu/3d/Deckard_Wip_04.jpg

AdamAtomic
03-24-2004, 03:04 PM
i would bring his browridge down a little, and square off the chin a bit more. Maybe bring the dimple-area forward a tad as well, that'd pretty much do it i think! Definitely going to keep an eye on this one....

SecretAgent
03-24-2004, 04:21 PM
Excellent character choice, I love that film!

You've done a great job of capturing his look so far, it looks like Harrison even w/out a texture - nice job.

Steyn
03-24-2004, 07:30 PM
wow, and it's all under 4500 tris?!

Miguelito
03-24-2004, 08:57 PM
Originally posted by Steyn
wow, and it's all under 4500 tris?!

He tries to use normal maps. So this WIP model wont have much to do with his final lowres-mesh.

Steyn
03-24-2004, 09:30 PM
I am sorry. I wish to apologize to everybody for my complete stupidity, my sense of humor and sarcasm gets screwed up when I'm tired. I am sorry.

But I Have to agree, that really do look like Harrison Ford, nice.

Ivars
03-25-2004, 06:27 AM
Thanks alot!
Good to know Im on the right track :)

Adam Atomic: Ill keep that in mind.

Steyn: Apology accepted ;)

Ivars
03-25-2004, 08:40 AM
Not that much of an update really...

but anyways, a little tweak here and there:

http://www.popcom.nu/3d/Deckard_Wip_05.jpg

edit: I know the ear might look like its too far back... thats probably because it is....

Miguelito
03-25-2004, 09:51 AM
Nice work! I can nearly smell Harrison ;). How will u do the normal mapping? With nvidia`s or ATI`s tools or with zBrush?

Ivars
03-25-2004, 10:12 AM
thanks :)
I dont know yet. Im currently looking at some different free tools. Orb for example...

Ivars
03-25-2004, 02:09 PM
ok, heres a very rough test with the normal map
This head is 808 tris (including the eyes)

Im still getting some errors, but Im working on it : )
Cant get everything right the first time.....

http://www.popcom.nu/3d/Deckard_Wip_06.jpg

And heres a wire....

http://www.popcom.nu/3d/Deckard_Wip_07.jpg

Lekku
03-25-2004, 03:42 PM
Looks good, so far. You might wanna chisel his features just a little more for the normal map, especially that crease between the eye and cheek. Also, Ford has a scar on his chin. Especially for Blade Runner, imperfections make it look more real. Like the guy's been to hell and back.

Ivars
03-25-2004, 03:59 PM
yes, theres still alot of tweaking to do, and i know about the scar, its an important feature that I must include. I just wanted to make sure I could even create a normal-map before I continued...

Anyway, heres a little something. Still just testing, everything is very temp : )

http://www.popcom.nu/3d/Deckard_Wip_08.jpg

Ivars
03-26-2004, 01:10 PM
More updates sortof.

I using this project as an excuse to try some new things. Ive been playing with some diplacement-maps for the high-res head, and will try to bake that in to the normal-map later....

this is in no way the finished maps, just a test.

http://www.popcom.nu/3d/Deckard_Wip_09.jpg

tobe90
03-27-2004, 04:54 PM
here we go again. ivars taking on a mission:impossible. and only a week in the competition, its looking awesome. (sigh)

what tools are you using?
so what challenge is left. the five-o-clock beard as alpha? liquid blood? a real working brain?

good luck with the rest. starting to look like him, too.

/ t

Ivars
03-28-2004, 12:13 PM
X D

Thanks alot, tobe!!

I found this free tool called ORB, and it turned out to be just great!

http://www.soclab.bth.se/practices/orb.html

Check it out!

"real working brain"..... now thats a good idea, Ill look in to it...

red3d
03-28-2004, 12:54 PM
looks really good so fare, good work as always :)

Ivars
03-28-2004, 03:52 PM
Thanks red3d :)

I hope you dont mind if I post some more minor updates....
slow progress now, but soon Ill start working on his body : )

http://www.popcom.nu/3d/Deckard_Wip_10.jpg

Miguelito
03-28-2004, 04:24 PM
Hm... In my opinion he looks a little bit too old. But really great model so far!!

DIrtyDebutant
03-29-2004, 12:48 AM
thats prolly because hes bald and all the wrinkles on thin white skin, i think this work is great so far, you really captured the essence of his face, especially the mouth. You can hide the top of his head and you know this is harrison ford, the inverse wouldnt be as true tho but try something with the corner of the eyes, you might have notice the wrinkles, hes had those since starwars. its already kinda there but not enough and the ones there are too deep. if you intend on using normal maps, this might be something cool to fix this. not much, only a little comment but overall great work, cant wait to see how it ends up!

goodlag
03-29-2004, 07:35 AM
wow great detail head..

i have a small question.

how many modeling time on the head?


high poly model...hard to me.. :(


thanks for the ORB link

Ivars
03-29-2004, 07:59 AM
Thank you all for your usefull comments!

DIrtyDebutant : Ill have a second go at his eyes :)

goodlag: Hard to say exactly how much time Ive spent on this, but I think its close to 12 hours or so (effective time). Im not the speediest high-poly modeller :) Plus Im trying new stuff here.

AdamAtomic
03-29-2004, 06:32 PM
looking excellent ivars - the texture and shading tests are VERY promising, and the model looks much more like him now as well. Can't wait to see it finished!

Ivars
03-31-2004, 11:17 AM
Thank you : )

Still not quite there yet, but I hope Im getting a little closer with each update.....

http://www.popcom.nu/3d/Deckard_Wip_11.jpg

dcp
04-01-2004, 12:50 PM
That looks like the guy I know. Really nice job, my dad's girlfriend walked in while I was looking at your thread and she said, "Wow." She immediatly recognized him :), even without the hair and details. I think now you gotta move on to the other parts.

Btw, are you a gonna model his gun? I thought it was pretty neat design in the movie if I remember correctly.

Ivars
04-01-2004, 01:02 PM
thanks : )
Ive actually started on his body today : )
Im having a bit trouble with how to do his hair though.... dont know yet, but Ill figure it out.

Yes, Im defenitly gonna model the gun. And yes, its very neat :)

http://www.popcom.nu/3d/blaster_02.jpg

dcp
04-01-2004, 01:20 PM
May I ask what you are modeling in?

Ivars
04-01-2004, 01:25 PM
Sure :)
Im using polys in Max 6, and ORB for the normal-map.

Heres a wire of the controlmesh:
(never mind the hair, its not finished)

http://www.popcom.nu/3d/Deckard_Wip_13.jpg

dcp
04-01-2004, 01:33 PM
Very nice, I like the colar, and I'll nevermind the hair, lol. So how does ORB work, I didn't really see much of a description on their site, or maybe I just don't understand bump mapping that well.

Ivars
04-01-2004, 01:39 PM
The basic principle is that you model highres and lowres, uv-map the lowres and bake the normalvalues of the highpoly object into the lexturespace of the lowpoly..... (that didnt make any sense at all, did it?)

If you download it, theres some documentation, and you can find tutorials in their forum http://vocs25.ipd.bth.se/orb/
And also theres a great thread here about normal-mapping:
normal-mapping for games (http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=129627)

Hope that helps :)

dcp
04-01-2004, 02:15 PM
Yes it did, is it only a max plugin, or is it for other modelers as well?

Btw, I sent you a PM.

Ivars
04-06-2004, 07:42 AM
Its a stand alone app, wich uses .obj, or .ase
so it should work with most 3d-apps.

Ive PM'ed you back :)

Im beginning to doubt that Ill make it in time for the deadline... But Ill try :)

Heres a little update

http://www.popcom.nu/3d/Deckard_Wip_14.jpg

as you can see, its far from finished!

Ivars
04-06-2004, 02:21 PM
and yet another boring update...

http://www.popcom.nu/3d/Deckard_Wip_15.jpg

onelung
04-06-2004, 02:57 PM
i'm a big fan of you game art, always a nice job. i myself do alot of photoreal texture work on characters, and when i use normal maps there usually painted over of the origianl texture, so far its the best results ive gotten (time vs. bang for your buck) but i'm excited to see the results you get, the high poly model looks nice as it is, looking forward to seeing it, maybe a little side by side comparison when its all done? good luck on the character.

danniesanchez
04-08-2004, 10:22 AM
is it possible to get a very clopse up of his face in wireframe?

i'm working on my first poly character and trying to get a better idea of what features my edge loops should follow on my character's. :)

Looking really good there BTW.

Danko
04-08-2004, 10:59 AM
Great, great, great job!
Excellent modeling and resemblance, can't wait to see the low mesh with the normal mapping applied. Keep on!

Ivars
04-08-2004, 11:20 AM
Thank you guys!

onelung: Yes this is a very time consuming process... specially when you model as slow as I do ;)
Ill make a side by side comparsion when Im done. Promise :)

danniesanchez: This is not a perfect topology, but here you go:
a wireframe closeup (http://www.popcom.nu/3d/Deckard_Wip_16.jpg) Hope its usefull for you, and good luck!

danniesanchez
04-08-2004, 04:20 PM
Wow, Whatta guy! Very useful, thanks ALOT :)

Ivars
04-21-2004, 03:17 PM
I will continue my work on this character in this thread:

http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=139271

Im gonna finish this one, hopefully :)

Neil
04-21-2004, 05:55 PM
do they plan on deleting these?
is that why?

if so, i needa move mine too... but anyway. So far his legs look short. Are they correct based off of the reference scales?

Ivars
04-21-2004, 06:43 PM
No I dont think they will be deleted, Im guessing theyll be moved to "Unofficial Game Art Challenge Archive".

Im starting a new thread because I think I can get better feedback if its not lost in the old challenge thread, plus I no longer consider it a challenge entry and I might up the texture sizes abit :)

The legs are fairly correct to my reference images. But I might take a second look anyway. Thank you for your input :thumbsup:

LordDubu
04-21-2004, 07:44 PM
Ivars is right, which is why I'm doing the same thing. I'll leave my archive images up for a while, but eventually pull them down as well. But I doubt there will be much traffic on these threads once the voting is over and the next contest is announced.

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