"HARDWIRED" [CG ANIMATED MOVIE PROJECT]

[BOY1DA]

http://www.boy1da.com/CGTALK/GOAL_CHART.jpg
:sad: http://www.boy1da.com/CGTALK/GreyLine.gif:bounce: http://www.boy1da.com/CGTALK/FootageHeadder.jpg

The video will be updated as footage is added.

The video footage contains all the “completed” shots edited together with
sound and final composite. The reason I say “completed” in quotes is because
in my eyes they are about 95% done and all may be subjected to change at any time…
But for now they are done.


CLICK ON IMAGE FOR VIDEO: DIVX 18.3 MB
Or right click image and "save target as"

http://www.boy1da.com/CGTALK/H20_TITLE_SHOT.jpg (http://www.boy1da.com/CGTALK/H20_MASTER.avi)




http://www.boy1da.com/CGTALK/BTS_Headder.jpg

A short behind the scenes 1.23 MIN. video.
Just something I put together to show some of the process of creation of this project.
I will try to add some more as the project grows.


CLICK IMAGE FOR VIDEO: .ZIP DIVX 21.5 MB
Or right click image and "save target as"

http://www.boy1da.com/CGTALK/BTS_THUMB.jpg (http://www.boy1da.com/CGTALK/MAKING_OF_H20.zip)




http://www.boy1da.com/CGTALK/TUTORIALS_Headder.jpg


CLICK ON TEXT BELOW FOR LINK

TUTORIAL SET #1 : VIDEOS ON THE BASICS OF "SUB-D or MESH SMOOTH" MODELING (http://www.boy1da.com/NERMS_DEMO/TUTORIALS_02.html)

TUTORIAL SET #2 : VIDEOS ON THE BASICS OF USING CHARACTER STUDIO BIPED (http://www.hardwired.boy1da.com/tutorials/BIPED_TUTORIALS.html)

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[osadkid]

Hey ,i remember visiting the H2) site a really long while back ,why are you just posting now ,i think you were the one with that robot ,and you had that test online ,it was really good! ,i suppose i can help you out ,why dont you give this story to Ham-E so it can be the feature of his studio later on ,if it gets off the ground?

[Flog]

I may not be able to help physically, but I know where you can find tons of help

www.awn.com

Post the job there, you'll get many posts!!!

[BOY1DA]

Thanx guys....

Any help is good help, I need and appreciate all the help I can get.

[tdotmusiq]

:love: I really like your work BOY1DA. The kid models are very cute and lovable. I hope you get your project off the ground. I think you will do well in achieving your goals. You are a hard worker who knows what he wants and goes out and gets it and I like that about you, amongst other things ;). I'm proud of you, keep up the good work, and never quit.

And always listen to your girlfriend even when she's wrong, to you, she's always right, LOL. :bounce:

[Zongo]

hi BOY1DA,

do you still need help with your project? i could help you out with modeling and eventually with animating and texturing. just tell me if there's anything to do and i'll give it a try. if you don't like it: no worries!! i wont be offended :beer:

btw: nice work!

[BOY1DA]

Welcome Zongo,
Thanx for your post.
Yes, I still do need help with the project and you are more then welcome to join.
I will send you a "PM" to give you more information.

[lazzhar]

Hi,
I really like your models BOY1DA !!
And I'd love to join this team.
I work with Maya and I like doing Modeling and rendering stuff.

Just PM me ;)

[osadkid]

This is great!!
The team now includes 3 or 4 modelers ,2or 3 animators ,a renderer ,and if tdotmsiq is in ,then a sound guy. The team looks like its coming together ,and i think most of us are familiar with maya ,Omar ,i think we might need to be working with Maya!:)

[Kid-Mesh]

...good luck

[BOY1DA]

Hey all, Thanx for you interest in the project and your participation in this forum.

The team is growing everyday. So lets get this show on the road. In order for us to get into the flow I will start off with our first animation test. This will help us to develop a work flow with each other. It will let us see who is good at what as well as show technical issues and so on...

From what I see so far, you will be able to use any program of your choice if you are Modeling, however you must be able to export you models to the program that will be the render program. All models will be rigged and textured in the render program (3DS MAX or MAYA) . I haven't decided on what program it will be yet. The deciding factor will be based on the skills of the artists ability to use one or the other. It will not be based on the quantity of artist that can use one or the other. For example: if we have more artists that can use maya but no one is that good at rigging or mapping or animation in maya because they are all modelers, and we have one or two real good 3Ds MAX people that can do the above real good then we will go with max, or vice versa.

I am a MAX user, but so far we seem to have more MAYA users. I am not very skilled in MAYA but I am willing to use MAYA as the main program. I will still create my models in 3Ds MAX and export to MAYA so you MAYA users may have to give me some tips.

So far we seem to have mostly modelers and animators. We need a few 2D artists to join. We need concept artists and storyboard artists. So if any 2D artists out there wants to jump in on that please do !!!

Okay, now on to our test project.

Since we don't have any concept artist at this point. We can start with my model of the main female character "TERA" (http://www.cgtalk.com/showpost.php?p=1454925&postcount=92) . It has no rig or textures..... I will send it to anybody who wants to try their hand at rigging it and anyone willing to try to texture it (Maya or MAX)

For all others who want to try there hand at modeling (Any software) we will try to put "TERA" (http://www.cgtalk.com/showpost.php?p=1454925&postcount=92) in a futuristic computer lab. We will need to make props such as a main computer console desk (http://www.3d-afex.com//REF_IMAGES/COMP_DESK_PIX.jpg) , computer racks, and any other strange computer gizmos. Once again we have no concept artists, so if anyone wants to try to draw a few raw sketches and post them to get ideas do so. If you don't want to draw your rough idea then you can just make rough box models to show what you are going for. Post the rough renders in this forum so we can get a feel of the composition. We can all make models to fill the spaces where it is needed. For others who want to add props to the composition, they may do so.

For the animators. Once we get a version of "TERA" (http://www.cgtalk.com/showpost.php?p=1454925&postcount=92) with good rigging we can then try some animation tests.
I have voice recordings and facial morph targets for "TERA" (http://www.cgtalk.com/showpost.php?p=1454925&postcount=92) so we can try to do lip sync animations as well.

We will try to put it all together, the final scene should be a few seconds. Once again keep in mind this will be a test so if it is not perfect the first time, no big deal, we will work at making it better as we move along.

I am also in the process of creating a new web site for this project. It will help us to communicate, send files and showcase our individual work on the project with our own user profiles, and so on.

I will Keep you posted.
THANX, Omar. AKA BOY1DA. :thumbsup:

[Flog]

YOu need storyboard artists and 2d concept artists.....

Well go to www.joinedartists.com or www.digitalwebbing.com and show them what you have done so far, namely your models and I guarantee you'll find an abundance of helpers.

You can also try www.eatpoo.com

But I think digitalwebbing and joined artists would be best for you.

[Flog]

I emailed on the joinedartist forum, so maybe you'll get some helpers.

Hope this helps you out a bit.

Just remember me when you get famous heheheh or when I need help on a project.

I do hope this helps.

[BOY1DA]

Thanx flog GOOD LOOKING OUT ! :thumbsup:

I'll save you a seat in my limo with all the hot babes :D

[Flog]

forgot 1 more great spot that you need to post an ad at

www.awn.com

[BOY1DA]

Something like this would be kool, but bigger and more monitors

http://www.3d-afex.com//REF_IMAGES/COMP_DESK_PIX.jpg

[Kid-Mesh]

Grrr....this sucks...

Im an excellent character modeler and mainly prefer to animate, but...Im a Lightwave user :hmm: and the majority here is mostly maya or max.

I would love to help with animation but it seems that wont be the case.

Although, I will still hang around and if possible help with some enviornments and such but I will continue to look for a animation project to help with.

...KM

[lazzhar]

Hi, thanks Omar for you kind words in your PM.
I'm waiting from you any final concepts to start modeling. I know it's soon to talk about lighting and rendering, but if you wanna showcase some models I'd love to try.
I'm learning some animation too, so maybe I'll be able to contribute there too.

For animation, I think it's not hard to use another program you're not used to work with.


ps: thanks Flog, it seems that this project is interesting and the guys involved are skilled ... and most important, they are cool :thumbsup:

[Flog]

I hope all works out for you guys. I'll be in the wings cheering for you guys when this becomes a success. Have fun and keep with it. Don't let this be another failed project.

I'm currently working on my own project. So lets all get busy.

Lazhar, I'm glad you joined this project. I wish you the best, you are definately a master digital architect. I love your work.

Just remember keep it simple and have fun. I hope you have a script already. If you don't maybe I can help with that too!!

[Flog]

Hey kid mesh i believe that Lightwave supports FBX as does Maya and MAX, they all support that format, has anyone thought of putting this in their pipeline.

They all, also do BVH for animation and such. So you may go that route. FBX can be used between each other, and if you have motionbuilder, every animator should, you are in luck!!!

[Kid-Mesh]

Hey Flog thanks for bringing that up although I was aware of it. The only reason why I didnt mention it was because Im the 3rd wheel metaphorically speaking.

But for now I will help out with regular modeling

KM

[Kid-Mesh]

Well I dont know if anyone else decided to give the Computer lab a try but if you do that would be great so we can take the best of each model and complete it that way or I dont mind completing it all :p


Anyway here are a few WIP shots....

Just started the chair.

( Render Shot)
http://www.madmotion.net/cgtalk/chair.jpg

(Wire Frame)
http://www.madmotion.net/cgtalk/chairwire.jpg


Comments, Critiques are welcomed

[illustrativ]

hello everyone, i would like to join the team also as i am looking for more experience in modelling and this seems like a fun project. What about so futuristic looking vechiles aswell? im not good at concept drawings so sorry i dont think ill be able to do anything on the 2d side. Chair Looking nice Kid Mesh.

[Kid-Mesh]

illustrativ Thanks, its just a WIP

Here is a quick 360 rotation of the chair with the base added. Im not sure If I like atm but I will wait for Boy1da to see what he thinks.

Click here for animation file (http://www.madmotion.net/cgtalk/chair.avi)

Divx Required :cool:

KM

[osadkid]

Wow ,this is really looking good.
Im gonna have my hand at some rough sketches for some other stuff ,im not a good 2d artist ,i can barely draw ,but you guys might get the idea! i Also if needed have an actual friend who is an incredible guy at drawing ,and he usualy halps me with projects ,so he will most likely halp ,Omar ,may i suggest using yahoo groups ,they dont give alot of alloted space ,but they allow for incredible communication!Kid Mesh ,the chair seems to be coming along ,your using lightwave,right? Its looking nice :beer: One suggestion though ,you prbably already had this planned ,but maybe you could fluff the cushions a little ,they look a bit stiff

Later ,keep it up everyone!
Daniel Osadtsuk;)

[Kid-Mesh]

osadkid - Yeah, I thought about fluffing them up, I will include that in my next wip post. Currently Im fleshing out the rack and made some temp cpu monitors to get a feel for the size but thats about it.

Tommorow is my last day at work till tues day so hopefully I should get alot done this weekend.

KM

[BOY1DA]

Kid Mesh: I will be working on some drawings for you today, so hang in there and I will try to post later today. Good start so far :thumbsup:

[Kid-Mesh]

BOY1DA - Hey Thanks man, Im working on another version of the chair that I think you will really like. When I get home from work I will post it and see what you think.

KM

[Kid-Mesh]

Quick WIP update

Cllick here for 3D rotation (http://www.celshadeartists.com/ezupload/files/chair1/chair.avi)

Divx Required


Cheers,

KM

[BOY1DA]

These images are to give you an idea of the overall colour and feel of the environment.

The first video is the opening title sequence. The second is a shot of the first scene of the camera traveling through the inner workings of the secret underground factory.

FOR BEST RESULTS, RIGHT CLICK IMAGES AND SAVE TARGET AS. DIVX FORMAT

http://www.3d-afex.com/concept/intro_pic.jpg (http://www.3d-afex.com/concept/intro.avi)

http://www.3d-afex.com/concept/audio4_pic.jpg (http://www.3d-afex.com/concept/audio_04.avi)

[Kid-Mesh]

WHOA --- that is....awesome.

Very cool...

For that second clip, did you make those textures by hand or are they shaders or a mix?

[jayreef]

awesome stuff, really nice, what composition app you using?:applause:

[Flog]

wow I hope you find others to help you in this project, this is great stuff, looks like an opening to a dvd or something.

WOW!!!

[BOY1DA]

"Kid mesh", The images here are based on your first model. Some suggestions I have are that the corners should be sharper to give it a more industrial feel. Try to break the chair into parts and focus on the details of each individual pieces and then assemble them. Add other fine details such as, bolts, rivets, electric cables, and glowing lights etc. Try to think heavy factory, old rusty equipment. I will look for reference images from movies like "Matrix" and "Final Fantasy".

If you need help with anything just ask.

http://www.3d-afex.com/concept/chair_f_b_-views.jpg

http://www.3d-afex.com/concept/headrest_diagram.jpg


:D :thumbsup:

[BOY1DA]

Originally posted by jayreef
awesome stuff, really nice, what composition app you using?:applause:

I'm using Adobe After Affects for my compositing.

[Kid-Mesh]

BOY1DA Very cool reference picks...I will start the changes this evening.

KM

[Flog]

Wow Boy1Da I sure could use your help on my project!! Hehehe!! Just for the opening part.

[Kid-Mesh]

BOY1DA Check your PM

[tdotmusiq]

BOY1DA, This is starting to look good. I really like your animations. This is going to look good when its finished.

Kid Mesh, your work looks real good too, keep up the good work and soon you and BOY1DA will become rich one day. Just dont forget that I said that. *lol*

[Zongo]

hi guys!!
excellent work boy1da!! i like your animations! but i still have the feeling that its a bit too much comic style. maybe that was intended and i still dont get the mood of the film right. but nontheless it is very cool, dont get me wrong with that :thumbsup: !!!
but anyway, i think i could use some concept art or reference pictures to get startet... i can try a character or some equipment or whatever needs to be done...

zongo

[Kid-Mesh]

BOY1DA Expect some updates on the chair today since I usually dont work on Fridays. Im hoping to have the majority of it finished by late this evening.


tdotmusiq Thanks for the comment, I do it just for the pure love of pushing poly's :)

Zongo Glad to hear your coming aboard, just out of curiosity what software are you going to be using? :p



Cheers,

KM

[Zongo]

hi,

@kid mesh: im using cinema 4d, but im willing to learn maya as well if time allowes (have always planned to do so, but this seems to be a good reason to get started)

but for modelling it should be fine if i use cinema. it can export to 3ds...


zongo

[lazzhar]

BOY1DA you're the best , I like the first scene a lot :)

[Kid-Mesh]

Chair Update

To try and come close to the concept art I started over, and this is still in the early stages. I have plans to add some more wires, bolts, LED's etc once the seat and the bottom portion of the chair is finished.

As noted in the image, I was thinking about animation while creating it and based on the concept art, the back portion didnt lend to too many options for animating...so I took some liberty in desiging it a little different in the back.

Although, "BOY1DA" if you prefer the original concept I can change it.

I also include a 360 animation of the chair as well...once I add the seat and the stand it should really start looking like a chair :)
http://www.celshadeartists.com/ezupload/files/fridaychair2/friday_chair.jpg



Animtation ( 360 )

Cick here ---->Latest WIP (http://www.celshadeartists.com/ezupload/files/fridaychair/chair_2.avi) Divx Req


cheers,

- KM

[Zongo]

nice chair,
but i think it looks a little eighties style. it is very big and angular (i know boy1da wanted that, but i think it is a little too much)
if you could make a mixture of your two versions? but we should let boy1da decide :D

zongo

[BOY1DA]

I agree with what you are saying "Zongo"
I was thinking more like the corners or feel of the
shape of like a 2004 Jetta/Bora. That car it pretty square
at the same time very round at the corners.

I will PM you some examples soon "Kid Mesh"
or you can look at "Sandpiper" machineflesh model style. (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/5/2850/2850_1084152507_large.jpg) My style is similar to his.
Look at his corners, very smooth. 3D light looks better on round
corners.

I assume you used subdivision modeling on
your first model, and on this one you did not. You should keep using
subdivision/smoothing, this will help keep the same look that I use on
my models.

I am also working on some other stuff for the other modelers to work on.
I will post that later today.

[Kid-Mesh]

Not a problem, Once Im finished modeling the whole thing then I can go back and subdivide certain pieces to acquire that look...its not a problem.

Here are a few more pics....still aways to go with the details...currently working on some springs as well.


http://www.celshadeartists.com/ha/chairrearquarter.jpg

http://www.celshadeartists.com/ha/chair_console.jpg

http://www.celshadeartists.com/ha/chair_back.jpg


Cheers,

-KM

[Zongo]

hi,

i think you should add some small lcd or something instead of the joystick. it could be a touchscreen so you can do all the stuff you can do with a joystick and it wouldnt look so eighties (it reminds me of my c64 joystick :) )
but it could be just me...

zongo


still waiting for concept art :p

[BOY1DA]

These are the rough layouts of the computer room.

Lazzhar, if possible can you reproduce the rough layout below, if not i'll send you a copy of the file. The idea that I have is, once the models of the props are complete I will send them to you so that you can arrange them into the proposed room. Since your very skilled at lighting and rendering I figured that you would be the best person to do that. I've seen some of you're work and they are very nice and it would be kool if you could model the proper interior stuctures like the, doors, support beams, floor panels and window ledges and so on.

To all others who are interested in modeling, feel free to post some of your ideas of things you would like to see in the room. It will help to speed up the process.

Ideas of things that are neccassary in the room are, computer monitors, wall lights, rack mounted computers etc...

KID MESH, you should make the back of the chair more laid back, right now it looks like its straight up at 90 degrees, it should be closer to like a 80 degree angle. The width of the chair peices should be thinner and the part where the person sits should be wider.

RIGHT CLICK AND SAVE TARGET AS... VIDEO:ROOM ROTATION (http://www.3d-afex.com/concept/scene.avi)

http://www.3d-afex.com/concept/DESK_01.jpg
http://www.3d-afex.com/concept/DOOR_02.jpg
http://www.3d-afex.com/concept/ROOM_MAP.jpg

[osadkid]

Hey ,if we are getting the light and monitor support to move in a circular motion ,and we want ,som i guess old clunky thing ,we could have 2 motors ,one on each side of the chair ,and a light turns on when it begins to work ,and its loud and clunky(of course during dialog it gets quieter) and the motion of the support should go by gears ,like a whole big clunky ,cluttery gear system!


What do ya think ,i hope you get what im saying ,also ,Omar ,i got my friend who is a concept designer(he is amazing) to help out.

Later all ,
Daniel Osadtsuk

[BOY1DA]

This is for all you modelers. These are some reference pix from the movie Fianl Fantasy: The Spirits Within. Hopefully these pix will give and idea of what is in my head visually. This is the type of look I would like the room to have. The look I am going for in not as photo-realistic as Final Fantasy.I am going for a more of a comic book look but not a cartoony look. The images of the kids that I first posted will be re-modeled in the near future to look less cartoony.

http://www.3d-afex.com/concept/F_F_01.jpg
http://www.3d-afex.com/concept/F_F_02.jpg
http://www.3d-afex.com/concept/F_F_03.jpg
http://www.3d-afex.com/concept/F_F_04.jpg
http://www.3d-afex.com/concept/F_F_05.jpg

[BOY1DA]

http://www.3d-afex.com/concept/F_F_06.jpg
http://www.3d-afex.com/concept/F_F_07.jpg
http://www.3d-afex.com/concept/F_F_08.jpg

[lazzhar]

Ok, no< I'll try to start make my hands dirty in this project :)

[lazzhar]

hi
I'm not sure if you're after something like this?
http://lazzhar.jeeran.com/room_mod_01_prev_02.gif
http://lazzhar.jeeran.com/room_mod_01_prev_01.jpg

[tdotmusiq]

Lazzhar the room looks real good. BOY1DA will hopefully like it. :p

[BOY1DA]

Hey lazzhar, looking good so far.

A few things to keep in mind.
You do not have to do the room all in one piece.
The walls do not need to be subdivided. because there will be many things on the wall.

Your next focus should be working on heavy sliding doors, door jams and window panes with glass,
and a few heavy support columns along the wall. wires and hanging light fixtures.

:thumbsup:

http://www.3d-afex.com/concept/room_mod_01.jpg

[lazzhar]

This is just a smoothed version, I wanted tp confirm if you want that rounded corners or not. Now I know what you want. Dont worry about the subdivided walls, it's just because the smooth.

I'm not good at all in design and stuff like that so if you have any reference or drawn concept it woul be fine, otherwise I'll try make one from my poor imagination.

[BOY1DA]

Don't worry too much about the design of the fine details,
Just put place holders in , like boxes or simple primitives
for now, we can model better ones and replace them later.
right now just focus on the placement of major objects in the room. And scale of the room and objects.

[BOY1DA]

Sorry that I am not able to provide better reference or concept images at this time.
like I said before, I'm not a concept artist.
It's much faster for me to model an idea then for me to draw it.
But I encourage you all to try your hand at drawing your ideas
and working with me to develop them until we are on the same page.

Kid Mesh , I hope that I am able to help you out with understanding
a bit more about my modeling style, the design of your chair was very good.
I modeled this chair so you can take a look at the types or curves and corner
angles that I use, square and at the same time round, if that makes any sense.:shrug:

In the future, I will try to work a bit more with you and break it down
into smaller parts that we can send back and forward to collaborate on.
Maybe we can try to work in real time on MSN ?

It is very important that we all have a consistent look for the models

well just an update for now,
I will try to post some reference images soon.


http://www.3d-afex.com/H20WIP/CHAIR_WIP_06.jpg

[BOY1DA]

Okay, here are some reference images that I found on the web.They are images of random machines and factories.

They are to give you all an idea of the type of props and feel on the robotic lab the the character is working in.

The first image I posted is of power turbines. The turbines have a the type of shapes and detail that I'm going for.
You can copy and mix and match parts to come up with your own machine....

http://www.3d-afex.com//REF_IMAGES/turbines.jpg



Other links to more images.

http://www.3d-afex.com//REF_IMAGES/Factory2.jpg

http://www.3d-afex.com//REF_IMAGES/13337.jpg

http://www.3d-afex.com//REF_IMAGES/4819.jpg

http://www.3d-afex.com//REF_IMAGES/compremitrice.jpg

http://www.3d-afex.com//REF_IMAGES/factorydeko.jpg

http://www.3d-afex.com//REF_IMAGES/gazou.jpg

http://www.3d-afex.com//REF_IMAGES/gazou02.jpg

http://www.3d-afex.com//REF_IMAGES/gazou03.jpg

http://www.3d-afex.com//REF_IMAGES/gazou04.jpg

http://www.3d-afex.com//REF_IMAGES/lmill.jpg

[BOY1DA]

http://www.3d-afex.com//REF_IMAGES/1057.jpg

http://www.3d-afex.com//REF_IMAGES/44497.jpg

http://www.3d-afex.com//REF_IMAGES/blastfurnace.gif

http://www.3d-afex.com//REF_IMAGES/chute1.jpg

http://www.3d-afex.com//REF_IMAGES/Steelpanel.jpg

http://www.3d-afex.com//REF_IMAGES/steel01.jpg

http://www.3d-afex.com//REF_IMAGES/Steel-Mil.jpg

http://www.3d-afex.com//REF_IMAGES/vacuum.jpg

[Kid-Mesh]

WOW that chair is awesome....I truly understand now :p

[BOY1DA]

http://www.3d-afex.com/H20WIP/CHAIR_WIP_09.jpg

[Flog]

so how are we going with story and such. I know most takes place in Antartica, are we doing a snow scene just yet?

Let me know. Thanks

Is anyone working on a base? Like a snow base or something?

[tdotmusiq]

This is what I did. I thought maybe you can use it like a sever thing or a computer rack, u know, just to fill the room. There are only 2 here, but theres more on the way.


http://www.3d-afex.com/H20WIP/RACK_MOD_01.jpg

[lazzhar]

tdotmusiq this is looking very good, I guess it's what BOY1DA is looking for.

[BOY1DA]

Tdotmusiq: That's pretty good, for a GIRL ;) :p
Keep it coming, I'll try to make some parts to help you out.

:thumbsup:

[BOY1DA]

WAZ UP!!!

Okay this is a "WIP" of the monitor array that will be put with the chair.

http://www.3d-afex.com/H20WIP/MONITOR_01.jpg

[tdotmusiq]

Ok, this is what I did today. Not much but i'm still learning the program.
We should try putting our stuff into the room to see what it will look like.
Wow BOY1DA your monitors are looking real good


http://www.3d-afex.com/H20WIP/capsules_01.jpg

[BOY1DA]

http://www.3d-afex.com/H20WIP/DOOR_CLOSE_01.jpg http://www.3d-afex.com/H20WIP/DOOR_OPEN_01.jpg

[BOY1DA]

http://www.3d-afex.com/H20WIP/DOOR_02.jpg

[lazzhar]

Looks great Omar. I wished I had your imagination !

Is this the doors of the room?

[BOY1DA]

yep, this is the door for the room.




http://www.3d-afex.com/H20WIP/Room_01.jpg

[Flog]

So far I've been thinking about the plot and want folks on the forum to see the ideas.

The time is the future.
The location at this time is Antartica, a scientific outpost. There is also a colony. Since it is the future, and time has past men have built colonies in Antartica. they utilize volcanic heat from the ground and natural gases found in Antartica. During the summertime temperatures are still low but children go out and play in the snow.

On one such trip our young heroes are traveling in their landspeeder. As they are traveling along there is an earthquake and they fall into a cavern, only to find a mysterious figure locked in a block of ice. The children are not alone. The earthquake also unlocked a monster from its icey cage. Its a 5 tentacled monster, octopus looking thing. It collapses though from weakness. The children eventually get the block of ice and the alien back to the lab.

We find out later that the astronaut and the 5 tentacled monster crash landed here together. For years the government lab keeps the man and alien in a catatonic state. They run tests and experiments as they have found the mans dna altered. One scientist, uncle to the young girl discovers this altered dna could prove to cure all sorts of diseases. The man and the alien both share a similiar DNA.

The scientist discovers that the alien and astronaut hold deep secrets a secret that could cure his son of Mutanitist, a disease that spread for many years created by a viral attack.

The girl grows up around the her uncle's lab. She visits her discovery everyday over the years he was there, developing a love interest in him. Imagining who this slumbering handsome man is like.

The high officials finally after several years get word of the discovery. The mysterious president wants the project canned and the man and alien eliminated. He sends in soldiers....

Okay I'm peicing it together but would like some input into the characters and the names of the characters. If it is going to be a pilot it should be well rounded. Everyone has a story, each character has a life, I want to know what makes these characters tick, what you envision them doing, and also if you want the group involved in development to get some insigth from them.

Do we want comedy, children's story, action, etc? Having the children grow up is kind of difficult. Maybe less of a time lapse, between the government coming in and such. They are still children when the government comes in.

[Kid-Mesh]

Room looks great so far :thumbsup:

[osadkid]

Great news!!

For everyone working on this team. I have just recently completed the projects portion of my new website. And i wanted to have this project as part of it ,not only as a test to see how it works but also as a helper and orginizer of the project. This section of the site includes your own personalized page on the site ,with links to things you are involved in ,a forum ,live chat sessions and a professional project managment system including
to-do's ,messages ,emails ,PM calender and a whole bunch of neat features.

So if you like the idea ,then we need everyone on the project to join ,so email me at daniel@daniel-o.tk and i will give you a list of info you must give me so i can give you an account.

[Flog]

sounds cool

Lazhar I've seen your sight, I can't wait to see you put out some stuff. Your work is great!!!

[BOY1DA]

Hey all,

I just wanted to post a raw video clip basically an animatic
of the outline of the start of the movie.
I made this clip just to give people an Idea of who
the characters are and where the story takes place...

Keep in mind it was done a while back so many things will
be updated in the final movie.


I am now working on a newer version of the female character.
I will post that in time.

But I still need lots of help with the rest of the room she will be in.
And all the props and so on. Thanks to all that helped so far.

I am also still on the look out for 2D concept artist and storyboard artists.

You might wanna right click this one it's kinda big......
HERE IS THE LINK TO THE VIDEO FILE. IT IS 33megs DIVX. (http://www.3d-afex.com/VIDEO/ANIMATIC.avi)

[Flog]

Wow!! You really are serious about this project. Very good work!! What are you using to Animate in?

I do love where you are going, just a few points to make in getting the flow down.

The whole kid scene is great, do not change except add what you need and such as far as animation, but I love the way it goes and then right into the credits as it fades out.

You said you want them looking in a microscope and such which is great way to begin. Gives it a sci-fi seal.

The alarm of course goes off, we go into a scene of her changing. do the pan down the vent, and then it goes to Patrick getting ready while the alarm is going off.

Somewhere cut scenes are needed to introduce Ker more and that he is awakening. Maybe some cut scenes to the lab where you see his hand move and such, eyes open, something to show he woke up. Just a little more flow. Like all of the sudden he is fighting, how do we know he even woke up.

This is a great story waiting to happen. I'm glad to see it going good. Let me know if more help is needed.

[BOY1DA]

Like I always tell you, you have a real good understanding of what I'm going for. and the idea you have about the waking up thing is just what I was missing.

I knew I needed something for that but , I kind of brushed it off, but you are right. I was even thinking I should make him have a kind of dream of the back story, but very faded, like voices and sounds in his head..........

I hope you got my e-mail of the character breakdown ?

[Flog]

send it here if you can shawn_arms@dell.com so I can get it here where I am currently at. I want to look at it again.

[BOY1DA]

Here is an update of the new version of the main female character "TERA"
So far no textures, and still thinking about how I'm going to go about the hair.

http://www.3d-afex.com/H20WIP/HEAD_10.jpg
http://www.3d-afex.com/H20WIP/Fullbody_06.jpg

[BOY1DA]

I've been working on this idea for a pretty long time now.
I was showing someone some of my old work the other day.
I came across all the different versions of "TERA" that I have made over the years,
So I thought it would be funny to show how she has came along.....


http://www.3d-afex.com/H20WIP/TERA_age.jpg

[tdotmusiq]

WOW BOY1DA, I really like the new face of Tera you have. Its funny how many versions of Tera you made. The first one is pure jokes, :D. Her breast are so big and it kinda looks like she has balls, :shrug:. I like the more recent one you made of her. I also like the one yoi made in 2002, looks pretty similar to the one you have now. I really like the vest that she is wearing in the new model you made tho. :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

[Flog]

She really does look great!!! I wish to see more dangit. MORE!!! But I have to warn you, you have to stop reworking so much and then work on animation and making the movie. To much revision and you'll never get it done, take it from me the master of 1000 stories. 1000 started, 1000 unfinished.

Now I'm focused on two movies.

YAY me!!

[BOY1DA]

I did this quick airbrush job in Photoshop to see how she would look with hair.


http://www.3d-afex.com/H20WIP/TERA_FAKEHAIR.jpg

[Flog]

this is seriously good work. I love the render and the hot pants. Great work. Keep her this way and lets get this movie on the road!!!

You can do it!!!

[tdotmusiq]

looks like she will look good with hair. can't wait to see the end results.

[sculpter21]

Hey man I would like to help here is my latest model
http://cgchannel.com/gallery/viewimage.jsp?imgID=4446

[BOY1DA]

Hey man I would like to help here is my latest model
http://cgchannel.com/gallery/viewimage.jsp?imgID=4446

Like I always say , I need all the help I can get.
You are more then welcome to join in.

I will send you a PM to get you up to speed,
And we can take it from there.........THANX :)

[BOY1DA]

Here are some images of my texture mapping progress.

I've also did some work with "Shag hair" I've never really used it on any final models before.
So I wanted to give it a try and see if I can pull it off.

Still need a bit more adjustments here and there, but I will work on them as needed
when I set up the final cam shots.

The next step is for me to rig her and then start to animate the scene.

And I'm still looking for help with props and so on.........

http://www.3d-afex.com/H20WIP/HAIR_MAP_07.jpg

http://www.3d-afex.com/H20WIP/BODY_MAP_03.jpg

http://www.3d-afex.com/H20WIP/Fullbody_08.jpg

[Dene of Terror]

Guys..this is coming along extremly well!!!!!

keep up the excellent work!!! :thumbsup: (misc.php?do=getsmilies&wysiwyg=1&forumid=0#) :thumbsup:

[SPENEN]

I'll be glad to help =), how can I contact you? Do you have mail/msn/icq/irc etc?

//SPENEN

[Goon]

Damn, that skin looks great!

I'd like to help. I'll be uploading some newer work on mon.
You can reach me at goonworks@gmailREMOVECAUSEOFSPAM.com

I'm mostly a modeler, though I can rig and animate (in Maya) as well.

[BOY1DA]

Thanx Goon, I'm looking forward to seeing your latest work.

I'll contact you "ASAP".


Damn, that skin looks great!

I'd like to help. I'll be uploading some newer work on mon.
You can reach me at goonworks@gmailREMOVECAUSEOFSPAM.com

I'm mostly a modeler, though I can rig and animate (in Maya) as well.

[B-rad]

Very nice start, the back still looks a little too flat but the front hair is coming along very nicely. Definitly a talent on the skin though very very nice, model looks very good.

[BOY1DA]

Thanx B-rad.... I'm about to give up on the hair thing. I gotta get on with telling the story.
I may mess with the hair as it is needed for the cam shots and final lighting......



This is a post of Tera's gun.
I still need help, Got more big guns to go.......


http://www.3d-afex.com/H20WIP/GUN_08.jpg

[MikeNash]

Looking realy good
Hair looks great, maybe little more specular on the hair, depends what yours lighting is like tho.
Looks like it needs more detail, build up the layers bit more

[BOY1DA]

Inspiring words coming from the "SHAG-HAIR" MASTER !! :bowdown:

[Goon]

BOY1DA, gotta say. I'm a bit confused. I went through the thread, looking for the story synopsis as to what is supposed to happen in this control room animation test. Is there a plot yet, or has that yet to be worked out?

I can do storyboards, but I'll need to find someone with a scanner to upload them.

Great looking gun, btw.

Also, can I have a go at rigging TERA? I'll have to do it in Maya.

[BOY1DA]

BOY1DA, gotta say. I'm a bit confused. I went through the thread, looking for the story synopsis as to what is supposed to happen in this control room animation test. Is there a plot yet, or has that yet to be worked out?

I can do storyboards, but I'll need to find someone with a scanner to upload them.

Great looking gun, btw.

Also, can I have a go at rigging TERA? I'll have to do it in Maya.


Yes, there is a plot, I don't really like to post too much
of my story ideas because I don't want to give away what is going to happen.
However I am also willing to tell anybody who asks...
Just to give everyone a better idea of what I'm working towards
for this first part of the project.
Well the whole pilot takes place in one main indoor location.
I want to give it a real closed in claustrophobic feel.
kind of like the feel of aliens 1 and 2.
Except it's not on a space ship, it takes place in an old abandon
robot factory. The story starts out as seen trough the eyes of
Tera Alice Kaine. The viewers are meant to take the trip and identify with her.
Tera is like an urban version of "RIPLEY" in alien.
When the movie starts we see Tera and two of the other main characters
as children. The part that I am trying to animate right now is
when Tera is grown up, in the middle of some trouble with the authorities.
She is conducting an illegal experiment.(trying to bring "KERR" back to life)


So that's where I am.
That was the the best place to start this project.
Because the scene is a pretty simple one, not much hard animation.
It's just Tera sitting in a chair talking to a scientist on the intercom system.
This scene is perfect to help to develop the main feel and look of the movie.
It's just a good exercise of all the disciplines of 3D animation/modeling/Rendering.
And will help me to develop the work flow.
It is just pretty much a vanity shot and to help
set up what is to come and who are the players.
Action wise nothing really happens in this shot.
But what Tera says is everything, it is very important to let the viewer
know what is going on.
I am trying very hard not to stray off and do things that are not related to this scene.
I am always very tempted to just jump to the action stuff. But it won't really flow
if this scene is not done right the whole movie won't make sense.
After this is done we can move on to the action stuff. HOOORAAYYY !!!

I would really luv it, if you helped me with the storyboards.
I have done a few but very poorly, you may jump ahead in the story
in the case of the storyboards, because the storyboard artist has
to be a few steps ahead of the CG artists.

I would really like it for someone to animate and rig Tera for me.
But because of what I have so far, I will only use 3Dstudio max
for animation and rigging then rendering.
I use a lot of plug-ins and procedural maps that will not convert into any other software.
If you want to try your hand at it in max then let me know.

THANX,OMAR.

[tdotmusiq]

Tera Alice Kaine is a really nice name, really, how did you come up with that? :D The name Tera I mean. Anyways will check back later.

[elfling bard]

Awesome work there. Seem really Pro the way it's done! If you need any help with the music side...tell me!:thumbsup:

[BOY1DA]

Thanx, I'll be sure to give you a hollar if I need to collaborate on some traxx ....
I'm into making music myself, here is a link to my traxx (http://www.3d-afex.com/MUSIC/MUSIC.html).


Awesome work there. Seem really Pro the way it's done! If you need any help with the music side...tell me!:thumbsup:


http://eonsounds.dmusic.com (http://eonsounds.dmusic.com/)

[element5]

just checking in and the work you have done to date is outstanding.....:thumbsup:

[BOY1DA]

Glad to have you drop by, and have your support.

I've been working my a$$ off , but I will post some new stuff sooner or later.
I'm pretty shy when it comes to my works in progress, but will always show friends.
Most of the stuff I'm doing now is "tech" stuff and tweeks. Also working on two
new main characters, one that is being created by "REPTOR" an other member of CGTALK.

[meherzad]

Hey guys

i see some cool work happening here and would love to be a part of this.

My e-mail id is meherzad1@yahoo.com . Kindly let me know what i could do and how can i join in. I use max and am basically a modeller....

Regards

Meherzad M

[rept0r]

Hi =]
I ve been working on the evil enemy for the sweet girl >D, Mr Hunchback
Here is the progress so far still just need some of his mechanics plugs and stuff but the body is pretty much this =] a Huge evil enemy for you guys =D.
Later i ll post the ups soon as i got some =].
See ya folks Boy1da o/ been a pleasure to work in the project =D.
http://www.3d-afex.com/H20WIP/Hunch_ren_01.jpg

[tdotmusiq]

rept0r looking good. Can't wait to see him with all his mechanics plugs on him and everything. BOY1DA will be happy with ur progress, for sure. Can't wait to see more stuff from him too... :D

[BOY1DA]

This is a post of some of the tweeks I've been working on .
Tera's new hands are made by Mike Nash, because I hate to model hands :argh:
I had to make a bit of adjustments to the hand model, because Mike's model was a bit too real
to fit with the style of Tera, so I had to tone down a bit of the mesh details.
This is my attempt at trying to texture map them .


Original model image.


http://www.3d-afex.com/H20WIP/MN_hands.jpg







Here are the images of the adjusted hand model not much change to the mesh
I made her fingernails shorter, as well as made her hands a bit chubbier
and made some of the tendons/bones in the hand less visible...
I also had to create the arm and make them fit together with the hand and textures.

http://www.3d-afex.com/H20WIP/HAND_02.jpg

http://www.3d-afex.com/H20WIP/NAILS_01.jpg

http://www.3d-afex.com/H20WIP/arm_02.jpg

[santosLord]

Just browsing through and your project looks great.. Keep up the good work. This is a very long process, starting back from 1996.. The end results will look fantastic.

[BOY1DA]

Yeah when I first started I had a lot to learn, a lot to just make it this far.
And I feel like I'm just getting ready to start.

Anybody else feel free to stop in and say hello!

[sculpter21]

Omar,
Awesome man.
Alex

[MikeNash]

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[GuillaumeV]

Very nice stuff. I actually think that long hair would look a bit better on Terra or maybe mid long (a bit longer then in the pic) but that's just my opinion.


BTW, is it normal that I'm not seeing you on msn anymore BOY1DA???

[BOY1DA]

I agree with you,Mike is working on it so the hair is still very much a
work in progress. so it takes a bit of work to get from my brain to his.

As well keep in mind that Tera is a "tom boy", and works with a lot of machines
so long hair would be dangerous. Also she will be in a lot of battles
She has short hair so her enemies can't have an advantage by pulling her hair in a fight.


Yea, it is very normal for me to not use MSN.
I have tons of work to do and it can be very distracting.
I also find that a lot of people tend to add me to their MSN
for no reason and never say who they are or even say anything,
That annoys me. so I tend to stick to other forms of communication.
like E-mails PM and this thread.

Well you know how to contact me, PEACE!

[MikeNash]

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[BOY1DA]

I've been working on some morph targets for "Tera".
Didn't come out as good as I would have liked, I need to work on them a bit more.
But I also have to move on to the rest of her body. so I may have work
on it as I go for the final shots.

Here is a Divx video file of the first test. Please ignore the hair map.
Her wig is still at the hair dresser :D

Click on the image.
http://www.3d-afex.com/VIDEO/TeraMorph_thum.jpg (http://www.3d-afex.com/VIDEO/Tera_Morph_01.avi)

[sculpter21]

Dude I like the facial animation alot

Al(X)

[tdotmusiq]

Really good facial animation. I like it. I would say her head moves a little too much, but that could've been what u were trying to do :shrug: . Love the tongue movements too. Anywayz as I said it looks really good. Keep up the good work BOY1DA :thumbsup:. :D

[BOY1DA]

Yea the head animation is just a test to see how the skin moves on the bones
and to see if the head movements will effect the morph targets when she turns her head.
some times if it is not done right the face will stretch when the character moves the head.
But that was not a problem in this case. As well it will be a good animation to test hair
dynamics if I decide to do hair dynamics....... I think I'm going to try to rig her arms next.
I'm really bad at rigging so that should be interesting !?!?!?!

[GuillaumeV]

Hi there, very nice facial test although I think her lip looks a bit to big, but that might be just me :) . Also, about the arm skin pic you posted, the inside of the hand looks a bit to white/pale compared to her natural color but then again that might still be just me.

Other than that, great work ;), keep it up it rocks.


BTW, why was Kravit's post deleted??

[BOY1DA]

Tera's mixed of many races so the lips thing probably will stay the same.
As well I like to have big eyes and mouths on my characters,
it helps to exaggerate the expressions, trying to bring more life to the faces.
The hand thing is also because of the same reason. But I most likely make her palms
darker because when I use really bright lights they really look really white.

And I think "Kravit" took down his post because the images were
taking up too much space on his server. I may post the images when
I have the time, I try to host the images of the project when I can.

So what's new with you any kool new stuff you working on ?
Peace!

[element5]

Nice animation Mr Boy1da :thumbsup:

[GuillaumeV]

I understand now :)

Quote: "So what's new with you any kool new stuff you working on ?"

Well, not much actually, started school in spetember and I've got lots of work so little time to work on that scene, sorry for that.
I'll be on holyday on Friday afternoon so hopefully I'll be able to do some stuff.

Again sorry for that :(

Keep it up!!

[BOY1DA]

Crazygui, no problem.....

E5 Thanx, hope to see you do some kool stuff for that new contest on CGtalk.

Just a small post to show the first test for the rigging of Tera's hand .
All I got to say is that rigging is a pain in the A$$.
If any of you guys know any good tips how to rig hands let me know.
I'm having problems with the skin in between the thumb and the pointer finger.
I still have to work on the rest of her arm :cry:


CLICK IMAGE FOR VIDEO
http://www.3d-afex.com/VIDEO/Hand_thumb.jpg (http://www.3d-afex.com/VIDEO/Hand_01.avi)

[element5]

That Hand animation is cool too....:thumbsup:

Are you going into the contest aswell?

Take care
Mark

[BOY1DA]

No contest for me....I can never think of something to make.

Plus, I got to give myself a crash course in character rigging.
I have learned a few new tricks since I put up my last post.
So I am going to spend the time to try to apply what I've learned to Tera.
As well to improve on my character skills over all.
It seems this project is slowly becoming the Tera Kain project.
But it is very important that she gets all the proper attention, because the story
revolves around her, for the rest of characters I will use what I've learned with her.
also for the rest of characters they have such small parts they don't have to be as functional.

I will try to post updates on the things I've learned as I go. If I have enough server
space to post them that is, because I'm out of space and most of the stuff
I'm working on now will have video files as the out put.
I've also made some video tutorials about the basics of Mesh smooth/sub-D modeling.
But didn't have space for them all, I have a few online but don't know if I will post them
or take them down , but I'll have to see....

I also have a few concepts that I'm dreaming up as I work on Tera.
But won't need them any time soon, but when I get to that stage
I will have to run them by you E5 to see what you think.

I also have a robot character that is almost done , but he is just sitting on my hard drive
waiting to be textured. so I'll be working on him next.
Thanks for dropping by, as well to everyone else that stops in to take a peek .

[element5]

I also have a few concepts that I'm dreaming up as I work on Tera.
But won't need them any time soon, but when I get to that stage
I will have to run them by you E5 to see what you think.
I will be looking forward to assisting you my friend :thumbsup:

Cheers

Mark

[BOY1DA]

Tera is now fully rigged and ready for action.
maybe I will post some of her animation tests that I have done so far.
But for now, I will start to get back into building the scene she will be in, and completing
some other characters she will be interacting with.

http://www.3d-afex.com/H20WIP/Tera-POSE_01.jpg

[GuillaumeV]

Woooaaaa!!! That rocks!!! She looks killer! I'd love to see some tests you made. If the scene your are talking about is the one I was supposed to help you with I'll try to find the time to model some stuff for it but unfortunatly, I don't have lots of spare time at the moment.

I hope to be able to get some more so I can help you.

Again great job and post some more, I wanna see :p:)!

[BOY1DA]

Hey Crazygui: Thanks for your post,
by the way you were right about her lip being a bit big.
So I made some new morph targets with it a bit smaller.
But I haven't shown the new lip in any of my video tests.


Well I've done tons of video tests.
But I promised myself that I would not post them until I get
some good animations of the model,but I don't think that will be anytime soon,
because I got to get back to modeling, but I'm in the process of looking for
an animator for Tera so I'll see how that goes.

Anyway, I'll just post one of the many rig tests I did so you can get an idea
of what I've done so far with Tera.

Keep in mind that the test is not how she will move in the movie.
This test is just to see if the rig works so don't pay any attention to
the funny movements and things she is doing.

In the video clip, I was testing her upper body.
I've made a setup so that Tera can breath, if you look close
you can see her lungs and chest contract and expand.

What you can't see in the test is the new facial setups I did.
I gave he much more expressions in the face, she can move
her eye brows up and down, and make faces like happy and sad
confused, and mad and so on.

She also has some hair animation features that I did not show,
her bangs move up and down in front of her eyes.
I will try to show that in the final movie.
It is very important to give Tera as much personality as possible
because you all will see the story from her eyes.

VIDEO CLIP DIVX FORMAT (http://www.3d-afex.com/VIDEO/Tera-UpperBody_test.avi)

http://www.3d-afex.com/VIDEO/tera_upperbody-THUMB.jpg (http://www.3d-afex.com/VIDEO/Tera-UpperBody_test.avi)

[BOY1DA]

This is an update of Tera's Chair.I finally got to texture it.
I still have to do the back ....

Most of the sets in the movie will have a dull feel to it.
I'm thinking of reducing the saturation of the leather....
so that the characters will pop out, I really want the movie
to focus on the characters and mood...



http://www.3d-afex.com/H20WIP/CHAIR_WIP_10.jpg

[GuillaumeV]

Thats really awesome, you're doing really really good stuff! I'm very impressed!
IMO the lungs and chest expand a tad to much.

Other than that, keep it up, I really enjoy every new update!!

[element5]

Once again I come to see you work my friend, Your girl has come together nicely and that chair love the detail. When I get a chance I will have to download the clip.

Great work:thumbsup:

[element5]

Thats really awesome, you're doing really really good stuff! I'm very impressed!
IMO the lungs and chest expand a tad to much.

Other than that, keep it up, I really enjoy every new update!!

I agree, the chest plate is a solid and should move not expand...but hey if girl chest did that when i was talking to her i wouldnt be looking at her face...hehe.

swtill great stuff dude :thumbsup:

[BOY1DA]

LOL.
One size fits all, pick your breast size :p
Well the lung animation is just an exaggeration for the rig test.
Just to prove that the lungs work. In the actual movie
you will hardly see it, during an action scene you will not notice
if it is expanding our moving up and down. The reason I made that feature
is to help sell the action scenes, to show that she is tired
or scared..or even sad or proud...
it will be adjusted based on the action she is doing.
It only looks strange because she is standing perfectly still.

Good to have you guys drop in to pay a visit.
Its pretty quite in here most of the time. And you are always
welcome to drop in and say hello and give your 2 cents worth.
it helps to keep up the motivation of the project.

Well back to prop modeling for me, I should have some updates
by next week, I'm pretty fast when it comes to modeling props.
I got to make the "GIMBLE" for the chair and mount the monitors on it.


LATER DUDES .....:cool:

[BOY1DA]

Well I started to model the gimble for the chair. I had to model the monitors over again,
because I formatted my system, and forgot to back up the file.
I wanted to put 4 monitors on the thing, but it looked like too much,
what you guys think ?

I will start to put some panels and some lose wires on the frame of the gimble.
I have to also complete the light and cooling fan on the top.
Once this contraption is done , I will start to block out the camera shots
for the final animation , to see what areas will need more detail...

Just incase you missed the older post for the gimble, here is a link
to the post, of what I'm trying to create, it also has a video file to show it's relation
to the room it will be in. (http://www.cgtalk.com/showpost.php?p=1349158&postcount=50)



http://www.3d-afex.com/H20WIP/CHAIR_GIMBLE_01.jpg

[jsdesigns]

What I've seen so far is excellent!
I'm learning Cinema4D at the moment and I'm willing to help out modelling more mundane objects (boxes, gadgets etc) to help me learn how to use it. I'm a graphic artist by trade as well so I'm well versed in other design concepts.

So, sign me up and I'll help out where ever I can.

[Kobalt13]

OK guys. This is Kobalt just posting to say that I've joined CGTalk boy1da and I guess Im on the team. Im gonna be writing mostly I think. My e-mail and ICQ are in my profile so if your on the team and you need help or whatever, just drop me a line.

[Kobalt13]

Alright everyone, heres your chance t contribute a little something to our humble movie. Basically, Tera (the main char.) is in her base when the power is turned off by mercernaries (mercs from now on). Your task is to write a short "gag" about her encounter with one or more of these mercs, what happens, and how she beats them. Leave it open. Ask for suggestions. Whatever. I'll be posting some of my stuff and asking your opinion. Also, if you dont want to do a fight scene you can tell us how you think se turns the power back on. Heres a "gag" of mine, tell me what ya think:
> > >Tera is walking and comes
> > >in contact with a merc. After some shooting (not hits) they somehow
> > >agree or it comes to them fighting hand to hand. The merc is clearly
> > >stronger and faster and basically beats Tera down for a few mins. She
> > >is laying on the floor and gasping for air when the merc picks her up.
> > >He is about to choke her and she starts laughing. The merc looks
> > >puzzeled and asks her why she is laughing. She says something like
> > >"Dont you see, your in a robotics lab... MY robotics lab). You hear a
> > >few beeps and see a portion of the wall (*there probably in a hall)
> > >fold out and a 7 or 8 foot tall robot walk or roll out (depending on
> > >if its on wheels or legs). We get close to the merc face as he turns
> > >around. He immediately drops Tera and the robot then grabs him and
> > >holds him up ready to strangle him. Tera yells stop or wait or
> > >something and then ponders. She could either then kill him or do
> > >something gruesome like brake some of his bones and leave him for the
> > >others to find.

[tdotmusiq]

This is a prop for the movie. The texture map was done by jsdesigns. I personally like the blue one.
http://www.3d-afex.com/H20WIP/CAN.jpghttp://www.3d-afex.com/H20WIP/CAN_02.jpg

[Kobalt13]

I like it. Very realistic. I too like the blue but both can be used in the movie. Thanks and keep up the great work (I dont know if your on the team or not). Also, remember, any "gag" or battle ideas that pop into your head, dont be afraid to post 'em.

[jsdesigns]

I like it. Very realistic. I too like the blue but both can be used in the movie. Thanks and keep up the great work (I dont know if your on the team or not). Also, remember, any "gag" or battle ideas that pop into your head, dont be afraid to post 'em.

Yes, I'm on the team.:D Actually, I only made the red version, but now that I see it in blue, I like it too.:thumbsup: Just working on a concept for a drink machine (artwork is now blue!), which I'll also try to model. If anyone else wants to try or to modify the design they are welcome to.

http://www.flydesign.com.au/film/can%20dispenser.jpg

[jsdesigns]

Hey Boy1da, I was re-looking at the images of Tera, and I thought that her eye colour would look better a vivid deep green colour. Just a small detail I know, but at the moment there is a lot of brown colouring in the face, hair and eyes. Changing the colour would break it up a little, and create more of a focal point on her eyes.

[Kobalt13]

:thumbsup: I really like that drink machine. Very futuristic. Keep up the awesome work. Also, what you said about Tera will be takin into consideration. I didn't notice it, but looking at her, she is pretty montonous with the brown. Just remember everyone (if there are people who read this thread) we need those merc fight ideas. :deal:

[BOY1DA]

Hey Boy1da, I was re-looking at the images of Tera, and I thought that her eye colour would look better a vivid deep green colour. Just a small detail I know, but at the moment there is a lot of brown colouring in the face, hair and eyes. Changing the colour would break it up a little, and create more of a focal point on her eyes.

Eye color no problem, I had her with blue eyes once !?!?!?
But green sounds good. I'll do it if I remember when it comes time to render her
for the final shots.

the vending machine looks good to me, i think you should make it wider.
and the things on the side thinner. depending on the scale of the thing
you should put a person beside it to show how big it is ???

here is an edit I did of it in Photoshop, so you know what I'm talking about.
go ahead and model it... if you have poser use a female model for your scale
reference. or if you don't I can send you one.

http://www.3d-afex.com/CONCEPT/Dispenser.jpg

[Kobalt13]

Hey J, I was wondering, have you ever drawn storyboards? I was thinking we need one and you obviously have very good drawing skills. Just think about it, I dont know if you have the right style though. Your concept sketches are very nice though, keep em coming. :applause: I dont know which drink machine I like more, but boy1da is right, you need something to show its scale.

[jsdesigns]

Hey J, I was wondering, have you ever drawn storyboards?

Nope. I haven't. I created the concept and can texture with Illustrator (which I'm pretty quick with) which is great for more technical stuff but drawing storyboards would require me to use pencil and paper (unless someone wants to give me a Wacom Intuos 3 :deal: ).

[Kobalt13]

Alright, was just wondering. We need a storyboard artist and I dont think Ive gotten a single reply on what Im posted in the screen writing story boards whatever section. :banghead:

[jsdesigns]

Now now Kobalt.:sad: I didn't say I couldn't do it. I was merely saying in my own round-a-bout way that I haven't done any sketches for ages, and I'm probably a bit rusty. I can have a go if you are really that desperate, but I have warned you that it might not be up to my prefered standard.:)

[Kobalt13]

Well, thinking about it, I am kinda desperate. And don't worry about standars; whatever you have will be the best storyboard Ive gotten so far (possibly on account of I havent had anyone do any yet:)). If its a problem with your own standards, thats between you and... uhhhh... yourself, I guess :shrug: . How 'bout you do that one scene or "gag" I posted on the previous page. Just see if you can do a real quick storyboard on that (DOESNT have to be perferct, it'll be better than anything I could do).

[jsdesigns]

Okay, I'll add it to my 'to do' list.

[jsdesigns]

Okay, I've completed most of the modelling for the drink machine. I've modeled it as to my original design then I'll make the modifications that Boy1da suggested. I've included a figure for scale reference.

http://www.flydesign.com.au/film/Drink_Machine_1.jpg
http://www.flydesign.com.au/film/Drink_Machine_2.jpg

[Kobalt13]

Ilike the drink machine. Looks good for scale but see if you can make the one boy1da suggested too. Dont forget to work on those storyboards, there more important right now. :deal:

[BOY1DA]

jsdesigns: you already know what I think of the model.


Because jsdesigns has joined on as a "prop modeler"
his first priority will always be models, as important as
story boards are, jsdesigns should focus or refining his model
and seeing it to completion, I hate to see uncompleted work.


Kobalt13, I came to the conclusion that it is better
to wait until we can get a dedicated storyboard artist
who only has the responsibility to do story boards.
That way we can get a faster turn around on image ideas.
The reason for this is that where you are as
far as writing, is way ahead of us in the story.
I put you ahead of us on purpose, so that you will have time
to focus and develop your writing skills, so by
the time we lock down the script we should be up to where you
are as far as models go. you still have a lot of time
to get help with your story ideas so don't rush it.
So spend time with your story ideas to make them great.

As for me I got to get my a$$ back to work on getting Tera's a$$ in that chair.

[Kobalt13]

True, J is a prop designer. I guess it would be better to have a full time storyboarder. Come to think of it I know a guy in real life who can draw really well. He might be able to help with this (hes kinda a nerd too). Well Ill be posting anymore ideas I get, but its been kinda hectic recently.

[BOY1DA]

The concepts are done by "Element 5", I combined his 2 concepts into one
and made the screen smaller.


http://www.3d-afex.com/CONCEPT/watch-concept.jpg


FINAL CONCEPT.
Remind me to ask "E5" who is in that pic ...... :shrug:

http://www.3d-afex.com/CONCEPT/watch-concept1.jpg


This is the watch model by me :D no textures yet......
I also made it a bit shorter, to fit her wrist better.

http://www.3d-afex.com/H20WIP/watch-03.jpg


http://www.3d-afex.com/H20WIP/watch-02.jpg

[jsdesigns]

Awsome modelling, where can I get one? Does it come in silver? Just kidding :D . I better knuckle down and learn how to use MAX properly. :thumbsup:

[element5]

Remind me to ask "E5" who is in that pic ...... :shrug:

Thats me at the beach enjoying the great Australian summer weather with a towel on my head.....lol

The watch looks great in 3D form, looking forward to seeing textures on it....keep up the good work my friend :thumbsup: and glad I could help.

[BOY1DA]

Thats me at the beach enjoying the great Australian summer weather with a towel on my head.....lol


Man, you guys from the future sure dress strange :rolleyes:
I guess it is a post apocalyptic future where they have depleted the "O-ZONE" :D

[element5]

Man, you guys from the future sure dress strange :rolleyes:
I guess it is a post apocalyptic future where they have depleted the "O-ZONE" :D

Hehe....the future isn't that bad. :D

[Kobalt13]

Wow, I really like that watch, very futuristic:thumbsup:. I'm sure you're wondering why I haven't posted in so long. I've had a lot of work to do, and exams just finished this week:beer:. Any time I was free, I was working on getting my computer back online:rolleyes:. I finally got one of my computers up and and on the internet. Now that I'm less busy, I will be able to do more of whatever it is you need me to do.

[BOY1DA]

I'm still hard at work here. I have started the animation process, I'm working on
the first 2 shots of Tera in the chair in the computer lab.

As well "Tdotmusiq" is helping me out with the props and getting the set in place.
She is also helping me out with other small things like UV unwrapping for the watch and other props.
Maybe I'll talk her into posting some of her work.

Well most of the time when this thread is quite and you don't see me around ,
that just means I'm working away cooking something up.

"Kobalt13" keep coming up with story ideas, you don't have to post them if you don't
want but keep dreaming them up. I've came up with a few new "GAGS" myself.

"jsdesigns" how is your crash course in max going ???

Thanx guys/gals, its back to work for me.

[jsdesigns]

Crash course is probably right. Max isn't too stable for me. Every now and then it just doesn't want to start, or won't load mental ray dll's. And don't even ask me about how slow the screen redraws are as opposed to cinema4D:sad: . Apart from that, I'm trying to get used to where everything is. When I create something decent I'll let you know.

[BOY1DA]

This is the first part of the setting that Tera will be in
at the start of the movie. This is one of the walls of the lab.

I will make it in about 4 major parts, then add an upper level.
The room will be a cylindrical shape With the chair in the center.
So I will bend the walls to form the final shape after I make all the sides.

I put Tera in for scale,showing off her genuine "Mark Alford designer watch".

http://65.39.131.22/H20WIP/Tera_wall.jpg

[BOY1DA]

I started to animate and set up the camera shots.I will do this as I go along.
In this shot Tera is typing on her computer keyboard and talking to
the head scientist,who you will only see on the computer monitor.

I will build the shots in layers. As I go I will make the needed props
and sets to fill the shot and composite them layer by layer
until the shot is done to satisfaction.

This is one of the animation test, for Tera's layer.
I still have a few things to be fixed, and will fix it
as more layers are added and so on...


CLICK IMAGE FOR VIDEO (http://www.3d-afex.com/VIDEO/Chair_04.avi)

http://www.3d-afex.com/VIDEO/chair_talk_thumb.jpg (http://www.3d-afex.com/VIDEO/Chair_04.avi)

[tdotmusiq]

Hey, the wall looks really good. I like the textures alot. Tera looks really good against the wall also. I can't download the avi u posted cuz I dont have Divx, but I bet it looks good, can't wait to see everything together... Well lata.

[element5]

Just checking in and the set looks cool.... the animation is great I love the movement cant wait to see more. :thumbsup:

[DogmaD]

Thats looking really nice BOY1DA!

I like what you did with the wall. Do you use a lot of reference material to create your textures? The animation looks good too, some tweaking in some areas, but overall i was really impressed.

[BOY1DA]

"tdotmusiq" hang in there with me, I know it's getting pretty hard, but it will be worth it in the end :love: :thumbsup:

Good to see ya "E5" I've seen your latest work "Oversized" (http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?t=211675) looks great !

Thanks "DogmaD" I have much respect for your work as well.
Feel free to drop by anytime, your crits and opinions are always welcome.

I don't use much reference over all for my texture maps.
I try to go by the rule that dirt and scratches
tend to be more at corner or grooves and then once that
is in place I add a bit of random dirt. I painted most of the texture
by hand in Photoshop, but I used one 512x512 photo of old metal
to get the base color and noise and cloned it to make it larger.
you can't really see that image unless you go real close to the surface.

About the animation part,you are right and that
is far from the final animation for that shot.
It would be much help if you can point out more specifically
what parts of the animation could be improved
so I can try to fix it when I get back to it.

I just stopped working on it because I wanted to work on the
scene then get back to tweaking her with the backdrop in place.

Animation is my weakest ability
I know very little about animation fundamentals.
I try to leave that to the real animators.
But I have not much choice for now, until I can find
a good animator to take care of that.
most animators do not want to animate her because she is
a pretty complicated model and a bit heavy and poorly rigged
I suck at rigging too .

But I try to do my best with what I do know,
because the show must go on.:D

PEACE !

[element5]

Thanks for the for your vote of confidence :) my friend...

Looking forward to your updates.

E5

[DogmaD]

Ahh, ok :)

Well, i will give you the things i noticed that were a bit off in the animation. Some small things are pretty simple to tweak. But the biggest problem i noticed was that there was almost no movement in the sides of the face and around the cheek area. The mouth movement is good, but i would expect a bit more expression in the areas a bit further away from the mouth. This can also help getting a bit more out of the emotions. For example her totally enjoying that the other guy would be unable to do the thing she would love to see him try.

But it looks really good, i like the voice. It fits her well.

[BOY1DA]

Well 2 wall sections down 2 to go. This one took a while to texture, I don't think
I ever done so much texturing in my life. All them equipment and small parts are a bit of work.
I picked up a few tricks to texture a bit faster.

The screen in the middle is a computer screen and a window to the room that will be on the other side.
Tera will be able to put anything on her computer monitor up on the big screen if she needs to.
I will animate all the info graphics on the screens and try to put a glow on them.
I also have to make a trash can for this section.


I've updated the picture and edited this post, I modeled the trash can and put it in the scene.
you can scroll down to see a closer render of the trash can too.



Next part will be the door section.Should be faster I hope.


http://65.39.131.22/H20WIP/WINDOW_11.jpg


Closer renders of the equipment in this section.
Some of the equipment in the wall racks were modeled by "tdotmusiq"
here is a link to her post if you missed it before..... (http://www.cgtalk.com/showpost.php?p=1372105&postcount=66)


http://65.39.131.22/H20WIP/Rack_STUFF.jpg


The idea behind this trash can thing is that in this place there is no food,
Only what is inside the vending machines, and as Tera is working she throws
the empty cans trying to get them in the trash and only gets one in.


http://65.39.131.22/H20WIP/TRASH_CAN.jpg

[tdotmusiq]

WOw :applause: :thumbsup:, LOVE the textures. The equipment that I made looks especially good, lol :D :) . Like the colour scheme. Still got the finish the wires pasted to the wall, they dont really go anywhere. See you changed the floor a little bit. Your pop machine looks really good. What ever happened to "JSDESIGNS" model? Like the Data Console, looks really good.

[element5]

Just a quicky while passing through....wow tdotmusiq and you did a great job on the sets. :applause:

[jsdesigns]

Wow looking good! Sorry I haven't been around in a while, I've had some family and work issues I had to take care of :banghead: . I haven't even had a chance to work on any modelling. I think the soda machine looks great anyway, and I think it suits the style of the project better than my design anyway. The texturing is brilliant too.
I should finally be getting broadband :applause: in a week or so (fingers crossed) so I will hopefully get my ass back into gear and do some more modelling.

[thebest]

hey keep up the good work

you`r a very good team:thumbsup:

[sculpter21]

Omar your my favorite 3d artist
Alex

[BOY1DA]

Hey, "jsdesigns" ....
I figured "NATRICOLA" went out of business:shrug: , so I had to go with "FIZZY FRUIT" instead.
I liked the concept you came up with.It was way kooler then mine I just needed it to be much bigger.
The only reason I needed a vending machine was to take up space in the room the bigger the better.
No big deal, do what you have to do. I will be working on this project for a long time to come.

Hi Alex, good to see ya... what you been up to ?

"E5" , I have a few Ideas that I want to run by you to toss around in your brain.
I know you are a busy man, so I'll send you a PM and see what we can work
out to fit your timeline. it's noting real important but would be very kool to
see more of your work up in here.


"tdotmusiq"
I've updated my last post, I extended the cables on the wall just for you Miss Wallace :p ;)

"DogmaD" you made some really good points, and will try to do them when I get back
to animating Tera. So what have you been up to, how is that model of that soldier girl
coming as well as your other projects.

LATER ALL.

[element5]

"E5" , I have a few Ideas that I want to run by you to toss around in your brain.
I know you are a busy man, so I'll send you a PM and see what we can work
out to fit your timeline. it's noting real important but would be very kool to
see more of your work up in here.


Hiya Omar,
Sure run them by me, I am sure I can fit some concepts in for you :thumbsup:

Cheers E5

[tdotmusiq]

:eek: Keep us updated BOY1DA, everything is looking good. I Like how you put 2 computer things instead of just the one. The wall is looking real dirty, I mean that in a good way :) . I see that u extended the wires, much better. The trash can and garbage is looking good also, see that you used my pop can, Tera is one dirty girl, damn.
Now its complete :thumbsup: . :eek:

[element5]

Hiya all,

Here are a few Robot lifter concepts for the animation. Hope you like :)

http://www.3d-afex.com/E5/CACT21D2.jpg
http://www.3d-afex.com/E5/CA49EV89.jpg
http://www.3d-afex.com/E5/forktruck3a[2].jpg
[/url][url="http://www.3d-afex.com/E5/CACT21D2.jpg"] (http://www.3d-afex.com/E5/CA49EV89.jpg)

[BOY1DA]

One more lifter robot, I may put wheels instead of legs.
and create a track for it to run on side to side.



http://www.3d-afex.com/E5/forktruck4.jpg

[simps]

Hi this is my first time seeing this thread. Do you need any more modelers?

[BOY1DA]

Hey "simps", thanks for showing interest in the project.
I will send you a PM as soon as I get the chance.

[jsdesigns]

I had a rethink and redesign of the Drink Machine if your interested. (Not finished yet, I want to add more detail etc) Couple of pics below. Let me know what you think.

http://www.js-design.com/drink%20machine.jpg
http://www.js-design.com/drink%20machine2.jpg

[BOY1DA]

Hey "jsdesigns",
Kool concept, did you use MAX for this one?
Personally I think your first concept (http://www.cgtalk.com/showpost.php?p=1916615&postcount=155) was right on point no need to re-design.
It just needed to be a bit bigger like in the concept that I posted of your work (http://www.cgtalk.com/showpost.php?p=1913715&postcount=148).
This one looks a bit like a cross between a bank machine and a hot water heater for a house.

However I no longer need the soda machine, because I am now working on the last wall section for the room.
You are about one step behind, I am now working on lifter concepts with E5.
And may soon start working on concepts for a freight elevator soon for the second floor.
I will post updates in about a week.

Let me know if you still are interested in working on something and if you have the time.
And I will try to send something your way.

PEACE!

[wdcstudios]

If you need any cars or vehciles modeled let me know

[BOY1DA]

Well not that much vehicles in the move, only fork lifts and robots.
Unless you want to model stuff like that. It all takes place indoors underground.

Thanks.

[wdcstudios]

thats cool I can handle that, I didn't get a chance to read throught the entire thread what program are you animating in and are the 2 sketches above something yet to be made?

[tdotmusiq]

Yea, I agree with BOY1DA, I liked the first model you did JSdesigns, with the alterations BOY1DA did to it, that would've looked hot. The one BOY1DA did, I think, kinda suits the environment a little better. The one you just did kinda looks like a Canadian bank machine, dont know what they look like in other countries, lol. Kinda confused on how it would work.

Can't wait to see those machines modeled, but who's gonna do it:shrug:. E5 :arteest:, you did a great job with the concepts, good looking out for BOY1DA.

[element5]

E5 :arteest:, you did a great job with the concepts, good looking out for BOY1DA.

Thanx, there is plenty more to come :thumbsup:

Here is the latest... Rail-Runner Bot

http://www.3d-afex.com/E5/track_bot-1.jpg

Mark E5

[BOY1DA]

I have to say E5 I luv the names you come up with,as much as I love the concepts.:D

By the way you should come up with a few Logo ideas for yourself.
Like an "E5" logo that I can put on models, kind of like a company logo for the machines.
That we can put on the final models when we texture them.

[element5]

I have to say E5 I luv the names you come up with,as much as I love the concepts.:D

By the way you should come up with a few Logo ideas for yourself.
Like an "E5" logo that I can put on models, kind of like a company logo for the machines.
That we can put on the final models when we texture them.

That sounds cool, I will put that on my to-do list :)

[BOY1DA]

I'm sick of working on walls....
This is the last wall part for the lower level of the room.
I combined the steps and the door sections, at first I was thinking that
I would need 4 parts, but came to find I only had space for 3 parts.

Next I will put them all together.
The barrel in the scene has slots for the claws of the "Rail Runner Robot".

http://65.39.131.22/H20WIP/Doorwall-08.jpg

Here are some images of the door hand scanner.
I didn't know what graphic to use on the screen.
I may leave it blank, and animate them all as a character puts their hand to it.

http://65.39.131.22/H20WIP/HANDSCAN.jpg

[element5]

Oh Yeah! I do like that... I love the attention to detail Looking forward to more updates :thumbsup:

[tdotmusiq]

BOY1DA I think you should animate the hand prints, that would look better but take longer to render. I also think that you should put yellow and black safety lines on the floor, what you have now doesn't really stand out, when it should. Other than that things are looking good.

[BOY1DA]

I took a short break last week from 3D modeling so I can build up some energy
for the rest of this long marathon of a project.

So to get started back into the flow of things, I joined all the wall parts for the lower level
of the room. From this point I will start to texture my way back into the middle of the
room to the chair Tera is sitting in. As you can see the platform in the middle is still
un-textured. Then I will start on the second floor of the room.

Once the room is all modeled I will have to take some time to try to light it.
I have never really lit anything this large before so that will be a challenge for me.
Right now the room only has one “omni\spherical” light in the middle so I can see
everything. I will try to give it a much more dark and moody feel with the lights.

I made a quick video file of a rotation in the room, sort of from behind Tear’s chair
point of view. Tera’s chair will be able to spin a full 360 just like the cam.
That will give me the option of choosing any view for the backdrop at any time I need.
I’ve also animated the doors and the hand scanners, to give an idea how they
will open and close. I may also update this video file as the room progresses.

Sorry for the speed, but I didn’t really want to add more frames to
slow it down because I’m trying to keep the file size down.

Click the image for video 4.76 MB DIVX

http://www.3d-afex.com/VIDEO/Room_THUMB.jpg (http://www.3d-afex.com/VIDEO/Room_01.avi)

[element5]

:applause: cool animation...it gives us a good feel of the set....love the doors...ah heck I love it all...:thumbsup:

[BOY1DA]

While I was procrastinating to work on my 3D stuff today
I tried to pretend that I was a concept artist. Don’t worry I won’t
quit my day job, hey wait a minute I don’t have a day job.:cry:
Well maybe now I can be KOOL like "E5".... most likely maybe not :sad:

Okay this is a concept that I was working on with “E5” it is my take on a concept he did for me.
I’m trying to go for an ape gorilla type feel, trying to show that it has mostly
upper body strength. I also wanted it to have a slouch bad kind of body posture,
because it is so tall and always has to stoop over to communicate to humans.
The first idea was to give it legs, but I then said to myself…
“wheels would help out at the part in the story when the robot has to sneak up on someone”.
So a robot this size would be much more quieter on rubber wheels.
I drew the arm separate so I can show the body proportions better.

“E5” maybe you can do a redraw of it in the future. But for now
don’t even worry about it. I probably won’t be able to start working on this one
for weeks to come.

PEACE!


http://65.39.131.22/concept/HeavyWorkerRobot.jpg

[sculpter21]

I would like to take a shot at building that

Alex

[element5]

Hiya Omar,

I saw your concept and you said you would like me to redraw it...I got excited about the idea and well .. surprise ..here it is...hehe hope ya like it :D

http://apache.airnet.com.au/~element5/HeavyWorkerRobot2a.jpg

[BOY1DA]

I forgotten how fast you can turn concepts out, that’s your arena.

Here are my ideas on the concept.
I think the lower part is a bit too bottom heavy.
I want to stress the feeling of a small foot print, the wheel in the back
gives it too stable of a look, kind of like it can stand up without power.
I want it to be clear that if the power goes off on this thing it will fall over very easily
As you know E5 this is a very important part of the story when it falls over.
So that’s why I made such a small back wheel, and may also make it retractable.
Or just take it off completely. The best thing that comes to mind is an upside down
pyramid with 2 wheels very top heavy. The idea is more of a character style then
a practical machine style. even though the lower parts you drew looks great mechanically
and visually . It is more a issue of scale.

Over all I think I will stick a bit closer to my concept. Only because
I can see this one very clear in my mind of how it will work and even how to model
all the parts, however I will still need your help in fleshing out the details.

Most of the time if I draw something , and I don’t do that often , most likely
I have a real good idea of where I’m going with it.
I really luv the way you laid it out and clarified the idea. That’s what I will
really need you to help me with. I was trying to think of so many ways to show
how the arm fits, and when I seen your concept, I was thinking why didn’t I think of that!

[BOY1DA]

Okay here is the plan for production of this model.
I want a real high level of detail, as with all my models in this project.
I will break the concept into parts, head, chest, arm, abdomen, suspension.
I will work with “E5” to create explicit details of each part.

I will then assign parts to separate modelers, that way each person
can focus on making their part to the best quality they can and won’t
have to worry about having enough time or energy to work on the other parts.

I’m looking for advanced mechanical 3DS MAX modelers,
who can create complex forms using mesh smooth.

If that plan don’t work I will just have to do it myself :rolleyes: :p
“E5” I’ll send you a e-mail as soon as I can to get you started on this.
Alex, I’m still waiting on the other models you were supposed to do ….:D

[BOY1DA]

I’m also looking for someone who may be able to setup some still frames
In Adobe after effects, and know how to animate basic movement of frames and blurs and sound clips
and so on…

Here are 2 shots done by “E5” for the 2D story animatics.
He has done a few more and the plan is to tell the story quickly in 2d then go over it in 3D.

http://www.3d-afex.com/E5/hide.jpg

http://www.3d-afex.com/E5/hallway_topdown.jpg

[Kid-Mesh]

Elelment5 - Man your concept skills are just amazing, love the redesign you did.

BOY1DA - You project is shaping up quite nicely man, keep it up....Looking good :thumbsup:

[tdotmusiq]

Everything is comin' together a bit better for you now BOY1DA, thats good. Concepts and Animatics are well needed and its good that your starting to get there, with the help from E5 of course. I like the idea of the robots design. E5 will brew something up really good :D.

[sculpter21]

Sorry dude Got an internship at a video game company so it absorbed a lot of my time. What exactly did you want me to do? Could you throw me a concept to model it off of.

Thanks
Alex

[element5]

Hiya Omar,

Cool, so do you want me to leave the robot for now? :) come back to it later.
Great to see some of the storyboards up... :applause:

@Kid Mesh, tdotmusiq .. Thanx :)

[simps]

Here's my first contribution to the project. Hope you guys like. The bottom one is the finalized version.................

http://www.3d-afex.com/H20WIP/MercGun_01.jpg

[sculpter21]

Dude that rocks


Alex

[simps]

Thanks Sculpter!

[BOY1DA]

I’ve completed all the texturing and modeling for the first level of the room.
So I had a chance to play with the lighting. So here is what I came up with.
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This one is my favorite one, I like it because it looks very dramatic and intense.
I may use this for the part of the story when the power gets cut off, and the emergency power kicks in.
All the low Power blue lights stay on and the only other light source will be the flash light on Tera’s gun.


http://65.39.131.22/H20WIP/Blue_Glows_01.jpg

This one should be when the lights and power level are normal. Any brighter and the mood that I’m going for gets lost.


http://65.39.131.22/H20WIP/Comp_02.jpg

This is a test render of the chair and gimble,
I have a white and blue light at the top and blue lights coming form the monitors.

http://65.39.131.22/H20WIP/CHAIR_LIGHT_04.jpg



This one is just to show the complete textures on the gimble. With no shadows from the lights.
http://65.39.131.22/H20WIP/CHAIR_WIP_12.jpg

Well now it’s time for me to work on the second level,
it will have a freight elevator and will also have the “Rail Runner” robot on the roof.

[softdistortion]

I like the lighting too...you really have done an excellent job on that set..garbage..floor stains add nice grit elements...and the glowing light sources..wow! :thumbsup:

[rickmann]

hey boys and girls this stuff is starting to look very cool!! BTW have you animated anything yet? If not I would like to help if possible? My animations skills are not the strongest but thats why I am wanting to help so I can build on them!! Let me know!!


Thanks
Rick

[BOY1DA]

Hey “SD” good to have you drop by. You have been doing some kool stuff over at your project too.

Hi Rick. I’ll send you a PM to fill you in “ASAP” thanks for your interest in the project.

[DogmaD]

Very nice stuff BOY1DA. One suggestion I have is to change the colour of the lights when they are in "normal" mode. Maybe instead of the blue tone, use a yellow / orange / red tone. Just to have a strong contrast with the "emergency" mode.

It is starting to look amazing. :) I really like the emergency one, hehe. The other could use a little bit of work. Maybe add a little contrast without losing the dark mood. Play around with different light colors for example, so they are not all blue. Small things like that.

So, when do you think we will be seeing a shot in action with both the girl and the environment? ;)

[BOY1DA]

Thanks for your comments, and your input is valued, it helps me to make them hard artistic decisions.
Many times when I was working on this I was wishing I had some input on what things may look good or better then others.
That happens to me all the time and I stop working and stare at the screen for hours thinking hmmmmm ”brown or blue”?

You are absolutely right about the lighting of the second one “NORMAL MODE”
And even though it is hard to tell the light I used to fill the room and make it brighter
is a brown light. My original idea was to make it have a brown sepia tone look.
With small blue glows, but the blue lights just worked good off the bat. And
the brown just looked very depressing. I also put a brown ambient to all the shading.
So maybe that is why the contrast is low on that shot as well. Maybe when
I use the brown lights I should use black ambient shading. I have more
lighting variations rendered but I didn’t want post them all because I didn’t
Want to bore anyone with tons of images of the same thing. So I just posted
the more extreme versions of the lighting. As well at this point I can still do
a lot of cheat color adjustments when it comes time for compositing.
Right now it’s just good to have the lights in the final positions.
Even though I still may move them a bit to cheat based on the final close up shots of the characters.

Well as far as the shot with Tera in it, I’m sooo very close. But so many small things
have to be right so I can enjoy putting it all together.
As you seen Tera already has the basic animation done. I even started to edit
The shots of her in After affects, with stand in models and a black backdrop.

But as far as this set piece goes. I need to make the upper level because when the camera
Goes low , to eye level or lower you can see that the set stops and has no ceiling or roof.
So that has to be done so I hope I can whip up a simple idea for the look of that part.
As well there will be 2 more secondary characters in this scene.
The first character will be a human sized robot it will be cloned so maybe 2 of them.
That robot is modeled already. And has been sitting on my hard drive for months now.
The other character will be Tera’s boyfriend but I may remodel him over make him a bit younger.
Oh and just the head and shoulders of one more character will be the scientist who Tera is taking to on the monitor.
If it comes down to it I may be able to cut Tera’s boyfriend out of this scene.

After all that, looks like another good 2 months before we start seeing any final animated and rendered shots.

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Well I hate to post without posting any pix, so here are some pix of some of that stuff I was talking about above.

This is a picture of the robot called G.R.I.M it is short for “General Robotic Industrial Machinery”
They are made to assist humans is normal mundane tasks.
The model is done, this is just an old render,with no lower legs, and it still needs to be textured.


In the first image it has no arms or legs just to show the body better.
It will have 4 arms in the end , I just have to copy the ones I have on the right side.
http://65.39.131.22/H20WIP/GrimSmallArm.jpg

http://65.39.131.22/H20WIP/GrimBODY.jpg

This is an old picture of “Patrick” Tera’s boyfriend. I most likely remodel him.
This model is about 3 years old.

http://65.39.131.22/PAT_02.jpg

[Rory]

wow man the woman is looking great! - have you thought about a webby for this project? it seems to be coming along very nicely indeed :D

Rory

[BOY1DA]

Thanks Rory, good to have you drop in to check out the project.

Well to tell you the truth , I do have a web site for the project.
However it’s over 5 years since I’ve updated it.:argh: So I’m too embarrassed to show it.:blush:
But at this point I won’t make a new one until I complete a few final scenes.

[BOY1DA]

I started working on the second level. This part is the main office over looking the lab where the
head scientist who Tera is talking to will be. But we won’t see him, I may try to get him to walk
by the window so we can see his silhouette.

I put in parts of the first level and Tera’s stand-in for scale and placement.
I have to finsh working on the hanging light fixture then I think modeling this part is done.

http://65.39.131.22/H20WIP/ObservDeck_04.jpg

[AJE]

Hey, just thought I'd swing by and give you and your team some kudos on some great looking work.

Love the blue lit room renders above... I'm gonna have to take a cruise through this whole thread.

Great stuff guys.

Cheers,
AJE

[tdotmusiq]

I really like the blue lights. Kinda reminds me of a video game environment but high poly. Can't wait to see everything completed, the upper level and all. The robot looks pretty cool also. I like the way the fingers look alot.
Well, keep up the good work and i'll keep lookin' in to see more updated pix.

[Kid-Mesh]

Impressive man, it definitely has your style all over it :)

Cant wait to see it come together :thumbsup:

[BOY1DA]

Back once again from the depths of the bowels of CGTALK.
It’s very lonely and dark back there at page 1156525226 of the collaborations threads.

But it was very interesting to take a look at some of the very first threads
that started it out in the collaboration section of CGTALK.

Anyway, I’ve updated the front page of this thread with some new sections.
Just to help people to see where and how far this project has to go.

I put in a “COMPLETED FOOTAGE” section to show what is done so far.
And a progress chart to go with the footage.

I also put a “BEHIND THE SCENES” section.

And I put in a “TUTORIAL” section. I had them laying around , I used them
to help teach friends in this project a few tips of how I do stuff here.
So if you are a “newb” and want to see some tips in 3DS MAX check them out.

All the sections have video files to check out, I hope my server can take it ?!?!!

[Here is a quick link to the post where all the stuff is located] (http://www.cgtalk.com/showpost.php?p=1320735&postcount=2)

Well let me know what you think about the new stuff.
I'm still working on the name for the movie but I will have to see how that goes.

PEACE !

[Kid-Mesh]

:bowdown:

Excellent, you have put in some serious work on this man and I love it thus far. The 1 minute animation pissed me off something fierce because I just wanted to kick back and watch it all :eek:

But hey, keep up the good work and hopefully there will be something nice under the CGTALK tree this christmas Hardwired style.


Cheers,

EDIT: LMAO....WTF? Dawg you are off the chain with that "Behind the scenes vid" hahahaha that cracked me up. Very cool man very cool....

[element5]

Omar your a legend....love the "behind the scenes" :applause: great stuff gotta love the dancing at the end:D .

and that minute of teasing just wasn't enough....I am hanging out for more...hehe

Well presented and looks very professional.

Its an honor to be working with you on your project :thumbsup:

Cheers
Mark E5

[jfelrod1960]

Man I can't believe I haven't been following this thread!!! Amazing work to say the least. Boy1da you will be seeing more posts from me! :thumbsup:

:)

[softdistortion]

Back once again from the depths of the bowels of CGTALK.
It’s very lonely and dark back there at page 1156525226 of the collaborations threads.

But it was very interesting to take a look at some of the very first threads
that started it out in the collaboration section of CGTALK.

Anyway, I’ve updated the front page of this thread with some new sections.
Just to help people to see where and how far this project has to go.

I put in a “COMPLETED FOOTAGE” section to show what is done so far.
And a progress chart to go with the footage.

I also put a “BEHIND THE SCENES” section.

And I put in a “TUTORIAL” section. I had them laying around , I used them
to help teach friends in this project a few tips of how I do stuff here.
So if you are a “newb” and want to see some tips in 3DS MAX check them out.

All the sections have video files to check out, I hope my server can take it ?!?!!

[Here is a quick link to the post where all the stuff is located] (http://www.cgtalk.com/showpost.php?p=1320735&postcount=2)

Well let me know what you think about the new stuff.
I'm still working on the name for the movie but I will have to see how that goes.

PEACE !

welcome back from the Darkside...and...Hey...quit stealing our ideas :p :)

[BOY1DA]

Hey “Kid Mesh”,
Thanks for the PM it helps to keep up the inspiration and motivation.
But rain or shine I’m in this for the long haul, I have no choice really it just who I am.
Your not the only one that wants to kick back and watch it, so do I !!!
Yea I had to let loose on the behind the scenes stuff, I shot soo much boring crap
so I just decided to cut it all out and keep it short. We all pretty much know how
3d animation works so I just wanted to have fun with it.:cool:

Mark, how’s it going dude…
The honor is all mine, coming from the collab concept art legend himself.
Well if you love the dancing stay tuned for the singing in part 2 :scream: LOL !
I will be making an appearance in all the latest dance clubs …
Kool to see your latest work in the e-mails, keep it coming and we will be
collaborating again very soon. I just had to make it to this “benchmark/milestone”
so I can move on.

“jfelrod1960”
Thanks and glad to have you drop in to say hello, I’m more then happy to have you following
the project. By all means feel free anytime. Maybe one day you can program some “AI ACTORS”.
Or maybe I’ll explore an interactive movie project if this one works out.
Good luck with your spacecraft simulation, luv to see how that turns out.:thumbsup:

“Softdistortion”
Yea, it’s good to see sunlight again.
Are you accusing me of being “phycick” ,Well my “ESP” abilities aren’t what they use to be.
So from now on, just e-mail me your best ideas and I’ll be sure to put them to good use.
But you can keep that Ewok cage battle idea for yourself .:surprised :p

Well back to work for me.:arteest: PEACE !

[jfelrod1960]

“jfelrod1960”
Maybe one day you can program some “AI ACTORS”.
Or maybe I’ll explore an interactive movie project if this one works out.


Sounds like a deal just let me know! :thumbsup:

[donShole]

Nice work Boy1da. I look forward to seeing this project develop.:thumbsup:

[softdistortion]

“Softdistortion
...So from now on, just e-mail me your best ideas and I’ll be sure to put them to good use.
But you can keep that Ewok cage battle idea for yourself .:surprised :p

Come on...everyone knows your story line is a total ripoff of the cagebattle idea ;) ..

[BOY1DA]

donShole: Good to have you drop by, stick around there will be more to come. :)


Softdistortion: ssssssshhhhh, don't give away the secret plot, about the love story between Tera and Jar jar binks, after he gets crowned as the world chap fighter. But I must warn you about how their kids turn out, not a pretty sight :surprised :argh:

[BOY1DA]

I started working on the layout and camera blocking for the next shot.
Here is a hardware render of the shot and how the cam and models will be placed.
The final shot will have Tera in the chair working on the computer and as the door
opens a robot should walk trough and start working on the console in front of Tera.
The camera should pan to reveal the head scientist known as “TECK” on the big screen
talking to Tera.

CLICK HERE FOR LINK (http://www.boy1da.com/CGTALK/Shot4_Layout_test_01.avi)


If anybody is interested in jumping in on this shot let me know.
Here is what I will need to complete this shot.

Pre-made models:

If anybody has made models of a humanoid robot like the ones in I robot, or like
the ones in Bjork’s video “all is full of love”. The robot does not have to have a human face.
Send me a link or an image of it and maybe I can put it in the shot.
The model does not have to be fully completed, if I like it , I will see to it that it is completed
for the shot. Some examples of the look I’m going for…

BJORK IMAGE 01 (http://www.boy1da.com/CGTALK/bjork-01.jpg)

BJORK IMAGE 02 (http://www.boy1da.com/CGTALK/Bjork_02.jpg)

Also if anybody has the head of an professor type looking man, that can be used as “Professor Teck”
Send links or images of it also. And the same idea if it is not fully done no big deal.
I’m looking for a model that kind of looks like “Doc Brown” in “Back to the future movie”
Or like Dr.Cornel West.

DOC BROWN (http://www.boy1da.com/CGTALK/DocBrown.jpg)

Dr.CORNEL WEST (http://www.boy1da.com/CGTALK/Cornel_West_01.jpg)


Other models I will need:
I will need a model of a wall/hallway for when the door opens.
It can be made from scratch or if anyone has something they have already made
Let me know.

So if you want to be in the next shot let me know before it's too late into the production.

Thanks to anybody that shows interest.

PEACE!

[denntanos]

Hi my name is Dennis And I wonder If u could join..?
I have a lot of square time to spend on this project...:D
I can create most things in Cg...exepts human faces they are always bad...

[GuillaumeV]

That sure is one hell of a job your doing. It's very impressive, beautifull and all. The passion and devotion you put into this project is very motivating. I'm almost through with exams, and soon I'll have enough spare time to be able to help you if ever I can.

Good luck with it all, I really enjoy seeing updates from this thread I'm always greatly surprised by the quality work.

Hope to see more soon!!!

[BM-Trace]

Hey BOY1DA can i climb abord, my email is faosft@gmail.com, my msn messenger (if u use this) is fasoft@msn.com my harddrive had a wipe so i dont have no art to show currently.... ill try and cook something up in the next 2 hours to show to you :).


please could you reply

thanks

-F@S

[neiy0]

Wow, I love collaboration project like this, it really gets the imagination out there. Two heads are better than one. I really like the work that I see, and I would honored to help contribute to this film. I am currently without a computer that has enough power to model, but I love illustration and concept design.

BOY1DA :: I hope to be able to help you, drawing concepts, and storyboards.. The scene where you need the camera to swivel up in the final shot, I was thinking since you most of this film is based around robotics, you might like a robotic droid security camera.. Here are a couple of my idea's, I don't have scanner :argh: (my two fav's are the stared one's).. PM me if you like the idea's :) If you do like any of them, I will paint them in photoshop, everything here was realllly quick.

1) The one on wheels is zippy and starts and stops quickly. It zips around on one wheel, and can make 360 degree turns by swiveling the weight around. Even when it is resting it stays upright on the one tire, much like the Segway. The head rotates 360 degrees, and swivels up and down. At rest position the antenna's go down into the body, and head flattens down into the crevace within the body. The circle in the center is a light, and the top part of the "head" softly glows blue. The two disk sphere's on the outside are motion detectors so it does not run into anything.

2) The hovering circle is just a rough sketch and would be more detailed. Right now, though, it is just a simple sphere with the computer system inside the sphere. The hoop around the outside protects it if it runs into anything. Each security camera is on arms which act much like human arms, and swivel in every direction. This droid hovers around people's head's.

3) The hovering oval is actually more like a disc. It has motion detectors (two circles), because it hovers around people's knee's. The main camera does not swivel, but is connected to the main frame. The reaction of the camera is very fast, due to the shape of the droid, and the amount of motion detectors on the sides (6 in all). The arms are for picking up small things; packages, computer bits, guns, etc.. and opperate on hinges much like backward knee's might. The hand's consist of two fingers and a thumb. There are two arms.

I hope that help's a bit..

Cheers :beer:
-Neil

[BOY1DA]

I have to say that it’s pretty good to have so many new people showing interest in this project.
It is a bit unexpected but a pleasant surprise for me to see as well, because it tends to be pretty quite in here.

So I hope I can get to know everyone, and get a chance to work with you all at some point along the way in the project.

Dennis: good to meet you, and hope to see some kool stuff from you.

Crazygui: Thanks, I’m glad to see that you are still following the project.

Fasoft||Tagos: I sent you an e-mail so hope to hear from you soon.

Neiyo: Great ideas you have there and it’s good to see your enthusiasm.
I will PM you and we can talk more about ideas…..

And thanks to all the other people that contacted me by E-mail or PM

[BM-Trace]

HMMM i didnt get it.... did u sent it to the fasoft@gmail.com ...... becasue the fasoft@msn.com doesnt work when i try to check would email...

[neiy0]

Well, BOY1DA, I took a step back from the drawings and storyobarding, and made this. I quite like it, but I don't know if you've already got this stuff.. I'm sure that you do:twisted:

Tell me if you like it, it's really just a template. There are shadows I need to fix, and slight halo's and I can add, or subtract anything you want; words, colors, logo's etc..

Cheer's :beer:
-Neil

[BOY1DA]

KOOL! ............. What is it :shrug: LOL :scream: ........ I'm joking.

I'm guessing that's a desktop wall paper right ???

Well I guess when I get some more characters done we can have some more.

[b00bie]

oh guys ..your on the way to make something of quality and style.. have been watching this thread a lil and just can say HAVE FUN ALL you rocks and keep it up ^^

boy1da, i watched your making of video lol it made me laugh but that doesnt means its bad ^^

[neiy0]

Good Omar, I'm glad you like it! Sure, they can be used for wall papers for the final product, or for DVD insets, or scene selections for your DVD :scream: .. either way, I'd be glad to make more of them when more characters start coming out. Also I'd be glad to make more posters of anything you need.. I will work on Tera's right now, because I feel it's lacking some things..? Maybe a logo, and some more words in the boxes..?

Cheers man :beer: and I'm glad you like it!

-Neil

[BOY1DA]

Fasoft||Tagos:
I sent you a PM, and a e-mail to your Gmail.

b00bie:
Thanks for dropping by.
Glad you liked the making of, I hope to do more one day don't know when.
It's all a lot of hard work, but I know I'm having a lot of fun in the process.

neiy0:
No problem, well I’m pretty far away from making the DVD.
If you are still following by then, I'm sure we can work something out.
And when I get enough content , I will also start thinking about a new website.


Thanks everyone... back to work for me.

[BOY1DA]

Okay, this is a “WIP” of the robot that will be walking into the room and assisting Tera.
This robot was supposed to be the other robot “G.R.I.M” (http://www.3d-afex.com/H20WIP/GrimBODY.jpg) but I found that G.R.I.M is a bit too
bulky to be working on the computer, and would not look as kool in the shot.
So G.R.I.M will be in an other shot with “Patrick” working lifting heavy boxes and crap like that.

This is what I have so far, as you can see I don’t really follow my concepts exactly,
I see my concepts more as a note on things I may like to try out. But I tend to make it up as I go along.
I will add a bit more cables to the head, just to fill in all the holes, plus the other side and back
has not been done yet. All the cables will go down inside it’s chest.
That’s going to be an interesting challenge to hook up and rig all them cables, I hope
When it comes time to animate it’s not too much of a pain.

Oh and I also made some robotic eyes, but it looked to creepy , so I think I will
just leave them smooth and I may put a glow on them as well.

That’s it for me for now, this may take me a few weeks to complete.
And the crappy part is that this is not even one of the main characters.
It is more like a prop that will be in the background of a few shots maybe
1 or 2 close ups too.

http://www.boy1da.com/CGTALK/MEDIC_BOT_03.jpghttp://www.boy1da.com/CGTALK/Medic_bot.jpg

[element5]

Wow I like that Omar, hope I can help texture that one aswell.

Thanxs for the vids and the crits :) will have something for you soon.

Mark E5