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Maplewood54
03-11-2004, 11:57 PM
Need some opinions on this guys. The more I look at it, the more off it feels. It really feels like he has no personality, so try to keep the critique to focusing on the creativity or believabilty of the movement and not so much...well...nevermind I guess they go hand in hand. Ok, let's start over. What's wrong with this animation (or what do you love). How about this....just write whatever you want to write that involves this clip in some way. Thanks guys.:thumbsup:

Clip - Quicktime 10 Mgs (http://sfdm.ca.scad.edu/anim/student/frreese/oscar_test_01_web.mov)

AWAKE
03-12-2004, 03:08 PM
maplewood54,


you really are brave for even trying this one. Shakespeare's TOUGH.


Some things right off the bat.


1. the first shot of the character standing there, he is absolutely dead. give him some ambient standing motion.


2. I can see your rig. There are a few times when the arms and legs extend into the limit of the iksolver. This gives an odd snap to the joints, and to people who do this, lets them see your setup.


The timing is not bad at all.. some of the poses in the beginning are a little forced. but, by looking at this character it's tough to get good silhouettes as it is.

overall I'd say it's pretty good, but it still has some fleshing out to do. There are a few solid moments. especially the ending.


you also might want to bring the hand talking down and use it at specific points during the scene.


hope this helps...

Maplewood54
03-12-2004, 04:13 PM
Good eye awake. Thanks for those comments. I'll be sure to look into those specific areas.

kevinw
03-13-2004, 05:31 AM
He doesn't seem to have much weight. I think your poses are pretty good but your timing in some areas could be a bit quicker. Also, I'd like to see more secondary motion. That would come with adding more weight I think. Also, the face is really emotionless.
Good luck with this. You've got a good start. AWAKE is right. This would be hard to animate. It takes a pretty talented actor to pull this off in real life. Keep at it though!

Mooncalf
03-16-2004, 06:05 AM
Hey maplewood,

I'm just a beginner myself, so take whatever I say with as many grains of salt as you want. ;)

I agree with Kevin, that there doesn't seem to be much weight. I think if there were more anticipation and followthrough. For example, on the "ourageous fortune" line, perhaps a deep knee bend would help propel his body upwards, and then his arms.

When he walks away on "No more..." his body seems stiff. There should be some spinal bending when he walks. This sort of thing seems absent from the rest of the piece, too.

One tiny thing I noticed is as he's standing from his parry/thrust on "To die, to sleep..." the left leg moves very slowly. Try acting this yourself and see how you regain your balance and stand up.

You have some really nice acting choices. I like the parry/thrust, and the walk-away... I like the hand movement on "THE question" (an interesting reading of the line... is it your voice?)

Just as a suggestion, on the "consummation devoutly to be wished," he seems almost ready to drop to his knees. I half expected him to do that. I think it would add more dynamic movement to the scene. That could just be me, though.

Overall, I wonder if pulling back some of the big arm extensions would help. I can't say for sure. I think you're headed down a real good path. Certainly better than I could achieve right now. I look forward to seeing where this goes... :)


- M

Maplewood54
03-19-2004, 03:35 AM
kevinw and Mooncalf, thanks to the both of you for your honesty and eye. I can see what you mean by making the weight a little more apparant. He does seem a little floaty at times. Come to think of it, I never really went back and fine tuned the back movement so I'll be sure to do that soon. Also, on the "consumation devoutly to be wish'd", the original movement was for him to go to his knees and look up, but my rig wouldn't let me do it naturally. Great critique though guys. That was really helpful. Oh yeah, thanks for the compliments on the reading. It's my own, and I had never even seen Hamlet performed before I did it, so I'm not even entirely sure if Shakespeare would agree with it's inflections. I just knew I needed more emphasis than Mel Gibson showed. Thanks again all. :arteest:

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