CGTalk - Beast of Burden - Character

dosadi

07-05-2002, 04:21 AM

The first one is interesting... maybe if you lost the horn. I do agree the second one has more character (it grabbed me right away). The 2nd one is also quite a bit different from what most other people are posting, whereas the first seems to be typical of what everyone else is doing.

dmcgrath

07-05-2002, 04:34 AM

Definitely the second one. You will have a harder time making something he can pull. You could rig him so he pushes something instead, he looks like he can stand up on his hind legs.

Bezerker75

07-05-2002, 11:44 AM

thanks for the input guys...looks like I will be working on the second guy....hopefully I will have a refined sketch later today!

Iguiniz.X.

07-05-2002, 12:18 PM

This is a though decision, but I got some feedback.
My eye fel first on the second one, he is more friendly but also gives me a really strong guy but lazy interpretation. Like carrying/dragging really havey loads and doing it step by step, really slow. I think his hands haning on the ground implies that(his lazyness), As if he is to lazy to take them off the ground.

The second one is the oposite, a really energetic fast strong runner but for loads less heavy. He kind a work with pulling wagons to transport people/alians from place to place.
He also reminds me of those little always happy and energetic dogs that just have to much enery and jump all the time arround to loose some.

But if you had to choose I would say take the 2nd one, I've seen enough of those really 4 footed strong bulies already but that musn't be the reason you wouldn't choose to make the 1st one.

:thumbsup: Well good luck in the challenge.

P.S I actually love to see them both moddeled:cool: ;)

Roman

07-05-2002, 12:27 PM

Yep, go with the second one.

stipen

07-05-2002, 12:28 PM

DEF number 2 !!!

Mr. Nice Guy

07-05-2002, 02:09 PM

I say the 2nd one.

Bezerker75

07-05-2002, 02:14 PM

Well I'd say that's a resoundinging..go with the second one...so I am..and I could't wait to start after seeing how many of you have so much done already...I had to do some rough block out...so to keep you updated here is the rough!

Bezerker75

07-05-2002, 02:15 PM

here's a smoothed render....

OrestesMantra

07-05-2002, 02:44 PM

Looking good!

Btw, if you still want to use the first guy....you could have them both pulling the same load. Since they have different personalities one would be overpowering the other or something and you get a real interesting scene.

Just a thought:lightbulb

Bezerker75

07-05-2002, 11:58 PM

well guys here is the latest update of Bob!:D

moujot

07-06-2002, 12:12 AM

:eek:
great modelling !!

moujot

Roman

07-06-2002, 01:59 AM

kewl, real nice. Although it looks like a baby BoB.:D

Bezerker75

07-06-2002, 03:32 AM

you are right..I didn't even see it...but it does look like a baby Bob...lol...I will definately have to work on that!!:thumbsup:
I think the detals I plan to add will make him look older and worn down...thanks for the fresh eyes!:thumbsup:

Flarp

07-06-2002, 03:50 AM

The model looks great!! Is that Mirai your using?

Bezerker75

07-06-2002, 04:00 AM

I used max 4.2...and of course meshtools:thumbsup: :thumbsup:

Iguiniz.X.

07-06-2002, 07:11 PM

Your BOB is looking really good.
I really like the progress of frst the simple blok version and the the smooth and then the eyesnd more details.
I really would like to see a wireframe of the detailed one but then without the smooth tool on it.

Wel I hope to see some progress soon.

Bezerker75

07-06-2002, 08:43 PM

here is the wire as you requested...hopefully I can get some more time to add some more details this weekend..if not..I will post more next week!:thumbsup:

redfuzz

07-06-2002, 08:50 PM

That's coming along great, it has a lot of potential for expression. I'd love to see a wire frame...
g

EDIT--
you read my mind, we must have been posting at the same time...
g

pearson

07-06-2002, 10:12 PM

Hey! That's looking good! Very clean mesh, too! :applause:

More! More!:bounce:

AroundTheFur

07-07-2002, 01:02 AM

nice mike, its lookin real nice, i havent been modeling much this weekend, had aloooot of partying to do but im gonna try to get the first basic one out on sunday. btw i left u a message about wc3, tellin u how to beat that level, did u get it? :buttrock:

OrestesMantra

07-07-2002, 01:07 AM

He is very cute:beer:

Bezerker75

07-07-2002, 03:22 AM

Hey, for anyone interested I made a max preview rotate of BoB...it's about 1.2 megs just to let you know..

click here:
http://mywebpages.comcast.net/bezerker75/BOB.mpg

if it doesn't play just right click it and "save target as"

stipen

07-07-2002, 10:29 AM

This is looking really great man !!

Equinoxx

07-07-2002, 12:18 PM

very nice indeed man . . . and i HAVE to thank you for that vid . . . i had some probs with my BoBs hind legs . . . excellent :thumbsup:

stereo

07-07-2002, 01:19 PM

that s a very good BOB i think..
i d like a proportion guide like a human figure or else if you don t mind.
your modeling seems precise, nice wire !

waiting for your updates ! :)))

:wip:

dmonk

07-07-2002, 05:09 PM

Your bob is looking really great. I think it wouldn't look so much like a baby if you add more features around the eyes and mouth. not too much though. imho i don't mind that it looks like a baby bob.

anyway this one is one of my favorites so far.

good luck:D

dosadi

07-07-2002, 06:26 PM

Lookin' good! I really like his expression, and his proportions are wonderful! Have you decided what he'll be carrying yet?

07-07-2002, 09:24 PM

I love his whole shape/posture... makes me wanna give him a hug. :D

Bezerker75

07-08-2002, 02:39 AM

hey guys thanks for the comments and crits...I will be posting more stuff probably tomorrow night...I haven't decided what he will be carrying yet or how big he is...I have a few ideas that I may sketch out...I have just be fine tunning the mesh to get it to a point for rigging...( wich is always the hardest part for me) anyway I was also thinking that I would have one adult Bob and a baby bob in training next to its father....what do you think of that Idea?

Bezerker75

07-09-2002, 04:47 AM

here's a small update! Still workin out what he should carry or pull..and that will determine his size...anyway C&C always welcome in the meantime!

ZrO-1

07-09-2002, 05:34 AM

goregous texturing. That looks really sweet. I love the harness too. This is a really great piece.

pearson

07-09-2002, 05:48 AM

Great texture! Nice colors! :applause: You're too fast!!:annoyed: :D

About the harness...I like it, but it shouldn't be all one piece like that, IMHO. I think it should be made of pieces stiched or riveted together and joined with buckles or clasps.

Keep it up!:bounce:

Spazmo

07-09-2002, 08:50 AM

Bezerker, your character "rocks the pooper". If you don't know what that means...I'm sure you can figure it out. You should be really proud of your BoB. It's coming along better than all the others I've seen so far. Bravo bravissimo.

toce

07-09-2002, 09:31 AM

wow, I love it!!!!! Simple but efficient, and the texturing looks good too!!!

great work!!

Mr. Nice Guy

07-09-2002, 09:40 AM

wow your harness is looking good. How have you made it that it fit so good.

I will following the rest of your progress

fellah

07-09-2002, 10:15 AM

this one is so cute! really good concept and modeling, I wanna hug that beast ;)
but the skinTexture looks a bit weird in my eyes. maybe if you break it up with more layers, add some smaller bumps and randomnes. that might do the trick. or make the current bumbMap bump out more..
good work, keep it up! :)

Bezerker75

07-09-2002, 02:52 PM

Thanks for all the great feedback:thumbsup:
ZrO-1: thanks man...your piece is looking awesome as well!

pearson: I agree 100% about the stiching and buckles thing...I just ran out of time last night to finish putting them in...I will probably add those tonight and maybe a few items he will be carrying!

Spazmo: "The pooper" hmmm...thanks!!! I am glad you like him...stay tuned for more updates tonight!

Mr. Nice Guy: I will post a low poly cage tonight...but basically I duplicated the bob mesh and deleted some of the faces...then I used a modifier in max called push to raise it slightly off the skin of the bob...then I used solidify...which is another modifier which gives thickness to the polys( kinda like and extrude but better for this type of extrusion) then I tweeked the hell out of it using meshtools and added a meshsmooth...and walla instant harness! hope that helps!

fellah: I agree...I think the skin textures is just temp right now...just wanted to through some bump on him to work out the UV's ...I still have a lot to do texture wise...although I will mainly focus on the modeling....and when that is done I will add better textures and rig him up!!

If anyone has any ideas on what he should carry or pull..I would love to here them....My thoughts were that he is owned by a vagabond drifter that collects lots of junk...I was thinking of mabe having him pull a small shingle dome hut on a wooden wagon. I don't know yet...I guess we'll just have to wait and see what unfolds

:D :D :D

Icecube

07-09-2002, 03:02 PM

everybody here in the studio love the design simple and clean,
keep going man!
Nice Job!

07-09-2002, 11:53 PM

I was also thinking that I would have one adult Bob and a baby bob in training next to its father....what do you think of that Idea?

You...have...to...do...that. :eek:

It would be the sweetest thing ever to see a little version of this fella in a 'training harness' looking up at his dad...

Oh god - you simply HAVE TO!

I won't rest until it's done, you hear! :D

This is hands down my favourite character at the moment... for design and realisation, it's all coming together fantastically. Please please continue doing what you're doing!

Bezerker75

07-10-2002, 04:31 AM

here is the wire I promised!:thumbsup:

AJ_23: I will do it just for you man... I think your last character would look great riding one of these things!! which reminds me who wante to name this guy...I am taking suggestions and will pick one at the end of the week!

Man feels like I have sooooooo much left to do....good thing we have some time left...lol I have so many ideas for Bob now...and so little time...but I will finish!
:thumbsup:

Bezerker75

07-10-2002, 04:34 AM

and heres a small update! but an update none the less! I figure an hour or 2 each night and I should be able to get him done the way I plan!:D

espaki

07-10-2002, 04:45 AM

Neat! I like the idea of it being some sort of personal riding beast for royalty - with the throne and all. amazingly clean mesh. out of curiosity, how many polygons is it right now?

-Nate

Bezerker75

07-10-2002, 04:56 AM

unsmoothed 11988....and I have moved them all at one point or another....lol...with the meshsmooth it's a whole other ball game!!

AroundTheFur

07-10-2002, 01:04 PM

you punk, that looks friggin great, i still have a long way to go and it aint goin faster with the work i gotta do for u haha. :buttrock:

Bezerker75

07-11-2002, 01:50 AM

ok guys...I decided to work on bob's owner for a bit...and here is a preliminary wire...more to come soon!
Story line:
His name is Lem Guile and he is a Goblin entreprenuer...a Merchant of sorts...he aquired "Bob" and his son "BOb Jr"(that's what well call them for now) in a barter.....more on that later too...I want to get some more work in tonight!:thumbsup:

Bezerker75

07-11-2002, 02:16 AM

ok just finished the ears and I think I will call it quits tonight!

Bezerker75

07-11-2002, 02:57 AM

Ok so I lied....:p
But I had to post a rendered view...it just wouldn't be a complete night with out it!!

Bezerker75

07-11-2002, 11:53 AM

wow 3 new posts and no C&C....Hmmmm....do you guys not like Lem guile?oh and what about Bob's name...he'll'' be so sad if he doesn't get a name!!!:scream:

07-11-2002, 12:02 PM

do you guys not like Lem guile?

Of course not... I despise any creature that would make that cute BoB look so sad and dejected :sad:

j/k - he's looking cool - especially his gigantic hat :D

As for naming the BoB - I reckon you should call him Lumbah and the little 'un Tumb

Pancreas

07-11-2002, 12:13 PM

Absolute loving creature! He looks so depressed, as saying "oh, another journey, not again". And the rider is amazing! I like very much his sock-hat, he has no ridiculous sense, he feels the fashion runnin´in his veins! :cool:
I think the beast should be called Gooshy and the raider Lord Fistror the Charismatic.

Danko

07-11-2002, 12:57 PM

Love the leather harness! It fits perfectly on place and seems functional. Excellent! Btw, how did you modeled it? did you split the character mesh with a bolean and then extrude that faces? Very very good result anyway! Congrats! Great work on the "chair" too. :applause:

AroundTheFur

07-11-2002, 12:58 PM

they both suck.....

interesting guy you got there guy! :beer:

Bezerker75

07-13-2002, 07:51 PM

ok..well it's been a few days since my last update...and it took me 5 days to find my thread on page 500...lol..I shoulda just use the Wip compilation...anyway here is another update! Still much to do...

Bezerker75

07-13-2002, 07:53 PM

and here is a close up on the throgs...they are a popular delicasy among the people of town..

hypercube

07-13-2002, 08:02 PM

haha, that's great..he gets more awesome with each update..the seperations on the harness and lashings, etc. are looking good, do more of that.. :thumbsup:

Like the throgs too..not that it would be the most sanitary place to hang them, but his owner doesn't seem to have much regard for others :)

ZrO-1

07-13-2002, 08:10 PM

I really like the lashing holding down the chair and the throgs. One crit I have right now (and I've been noticing this on other peoples pieces too) is that the harness looks like it's just a raised part of the skin, rather than a separate piece that is placed on the beast. I would suggest to keep a few places really tight like they are now, but to make the bulk of the harness a bit looser, and have a few other places actually off the skin loose.

:shrug: Just my 2 cents

Fedron

07-13-2002, 08:30 PM

Very nice job berzeker. The throne idea is very original. An dthe detail of the 2 hanguing bodys is really cool too. I agree with ZrO-1 about the harness and the sticky too skin inpression. Otherwise very good job. I was thinking in the royalty stuff and maybe you could inspire yourself in how asian elephant are dressed for parade and processions.

Cheers looking forward for more :thumbsup:

paconavarro

07-13-2002, 08:55 PM

Love the concept, the hanging dead things give a very nice touch of utility to the bob. :) :applause:

Virtuoso

07-14-2002, 12:02 AM

:eek: :bounce: ....................Now I am excited.........that is one of the elite beasts of the challenge thus far in a very good group of beasts.

Clean and fun, plus the details are very high end, I am very big on details, and depth within creations, and you are giving it the extra mile Bezerker75..............very nice, keep it up.

ZrO-1..............Brought up a very good point about the harness looks like it's just a raised part of the skin..............you should put a separate piece that is placed on the beast here and there that protrudes out as ZrO-1 suggests.

Anyways great job, keep it up, you are one of my fav's right now in a really good field. :thumbsup: :)

rickycox

07-14-2002, 04:10 AM

10 out of 10 for modelling but you need to break those textures up. The bump is too high and too even dsitributed.

Mr. Nice Guy

07-14-2002, 02:16 PM

Thank for explaining how you did you your harness

Your goblin looks good. I really like his hat. And those throgs reminds me at Star Wars.

Keep on going

Bezerker75

07-14-2002, 03:08 PM

Hey guys thanks for the coments and crits...I will post some updates later tonight...I think you're all right about the harness! I started pulling some areas up off the beast! good suggestion! about the texture...well the bump on the beast is just temp..actuall all the textures are temp for the time being....I am trying to focus more on getting the model built to the way I want it! I will probably retexture after that is complete! Until my next post!:beer:

pit

07-14-2002, 03:18 PM

i totally missed your thread - how could I ???!!! This is xlent work indeed! And the only point to crit is really, as mentioned before by ZrO-1, to separate the harnish a little from the body. Well - WOW!

ChrRambow

07-14-2002, 03:22 PM

I just want to say that i like your style.
Your BoB is looking very nice.
Can't wait to see more of them. :)

07-14-2002, 03:27 PM

Awww... I like the snug "skin tight" harness... :sad:

But - it's you're Bob!

:D

Bezerker75

07-15-2002, 03:38 AM

after much diliberation and pulling some areas of the harnes off the beasts skin I decided I didn't like the way it looked so...fitted harness it is...I will probably just keep adding more stitching and things of that nature..also I decided the piece of harness on his head is actually going to be a decorative cloth (textures to come)...anyway just wanted to throw this update up... he now has more stiching on the harness and a net bag filled with "woggle melons".....much more to do...but I may need to get a new video card soon...cause the one I got now sucks and the scene is getting mighty hard to work with...I have to keep everything low poly and bounding boxes to rotate in the viewports...anyway...here ya go!

Bezerker75

07-15-2002, 03:39 AM

Here is a wire for those of you interested!:thumbsup:

MDB101

07-15-2002, 03:46 AM

Nice work man! (stands and apllause) klap klap kalp!

nice going man now my sugestion is work on the feet and hands :) put a little more detail on that part :)

erilaz

07-15-2002, 10:20 AM

The folds in the leather around the limbs is great. Really believable! Get that bump map going soon! I want to see! :D

Gamoron

07-15-2002, 09:41 PM

Exquisite model. Simply one of the best I've seen. Great work!

ilasolomon

07-15-2002, 10:06 PM

i like your stuff, great work :)...
my crit:
maybe you should do some twicking to leather on the creature,
it's too fit on the body...maybe.
5 stars

Bezerker75

07-16-2002, 12:40 AM

thanks for the crits and comments...just curious is you guys could be a little more specific where the leather would be coming off the body more...maybe draw on the image so I have a better understand what you mean...I tried to pull it off the body in a few spots but it really didn't look right...but maybe I was just pulling off the wrong areas...please help! I also plan to add more stiching...I think that will help define it more as a fitted harness...anyway keep coming with the crits....give it all to me! mostly dislikes...so I can fix them...lol

mojomunkee

07-16-2002, 08:28 PM

i think it looks really cool and everything is neato!
you sure do rock! don't change anything, wel.. maybe add some monkeys. :bounce:

ilasolomon

07-16-2002, 10:32 PM

yeap, i mean this:

07-16-2002, 10:35 PM

Don't touch that harness I tell you!!

This is quite simply excellent.

(edit: Just saw Ila's pic - my 'don't touch' comment was meant at making it thicker :D )

Bezerker75

07-17-2002, 02:04 AM

oh..ok..sweet..thanks...that's what I was looking for...I think I can deffinately make a few adjustments on that..no problem..hopefully I will get some time tomorrow to add a new update...just been kinda crazy round here! thanks again!

Her Mojo where in PA you from?

Rex

07-17-2002, 02:18 AM

OH~your work are greater and greater !I like that!everything is fit now especial the curl sticks I like most and fit well on the beast!

Check out my Beast of Burden (http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=12984&pagenumber=2)

mojomunkee

07-17-2002, 10:35 PM

beserker....

mmm..asking where i am from...that's a bit forward!

maybe over a drink, i will tell you sexy..

b-b-b-oin-g-g-g-g!

Bezerker75

07-18-2002, 02:12 AM

drinks...hmmm you buyin??? oh and the name is Bezerker not beserker...lol...anyway thanks for the monkey idea...I just might...you never know... I am crazy like that!! lol

Bezerker75

07-19-2002, 03:18 AM

Ok guys...had a little bit of time to do something so here are some updates...this guy is called a Lunatog, and his a$$ glows at night or in darkness...not quite finished with him but here is the start

Bezerker75

07-19-2002, 03:19 AM

here is a shot with him in the scene...

Bezerker75

07-19-2002, 03:20 AM

ok one more...just a close up of the cage and the lunatog...both of which still need a little work...but here you go!

Fetus23

07-19-2002, 03:35 AM

haha. Thats awsome!! Really like the little cage...this whole peice looks wonderful man. I'm a sucker for curly cues :)
planing on rigging him?

fetus

dosadi

07-19-2002, 06:10 AM

Haven't checked yours in a while.. LOOKING GREAT! :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: The only thing I have to crit is that the two "little dried goblins" are exactly alike. perhaps slighty different poses/colors/scale for them. That way they won't look like instances. otherwise once again :beer:

pit

07-19-2002, 09:18 AM

u rock:buttrock: :thumbsup: :applause:

Bezerker75

07-19-2002, 01:20 PM

Fetus23:
I do plan on rigging him eventually, but for now I have some more modeling I wiould like to do for him...I will keep you posted when I am ready for rigging;)

dosadi:
Thanks for the crit...that is a good idea...will do that for the next post...thanks...:thumbsup:

pit:
:thumbsup:

Virtuoso

07-19-2002, 11:19 PM

Excellent...................one of the best in a great field thus far. I love the whole thing Bezerker75, just a nice deep fun and clean creation with nice added touchs.............keep going, I want more, it's very fun to see more creations pop up.:applause: :)

Bezerker75

07-20-2002, 06:44 AM

ok...a little each night and I might finish this...here's another update!:thumbsup:

Fedron

07-20-2002, 07:10 AM

:thumbsup: Very nice Berzeker!!!! The new bump map is really cool. The diference between the harness and the skin is very noticeable now. If you can, you should make the harness leather peaces more thick and it would be perfect..
Very nice details, the web full of water melons, the hanging dead frog dudes, the a$$ glowing dude in his cage, etc......
Very clean design Berzerker. I of the most neat in the comp.
Keep going

:applause:

fellah

07-20-2002, 08:57 AM

I like it so far, and alot of nice details! but (and I hope I ain't a pain in your butt when I'm saying this again :) ) but I still don't like the bump map on his skin.. I dug up some images from the "dinosaur" movie to show you:
http://la.siggraph.org/Newsletters/images/jun00-dino.jpg
http://www.kinoweb.de/film2000/Dinosaur/pix/dino06.jpg
http://www.kinoweb.de/film2000/Dinosaur/pix/dino20.jpg
http://cobrand.salon.com/ent/movies/review/2000/05/19/dinosaur/cover.jpg
notice how the bumpMap look in the areas where there's much movement and vice versa.
anyway, it might be to much work to make a bumpMap like that, you'd probably need to UV and paint it by hand(if that's not what you've already done??) but it's just a tip. if not now, maybe you get use of it in the future,

take care
// fellah

rok

07-20-2002, 12:09 PM

damn - right on :thumbsup:

ZrO-1

07-20-2002, 03:20 PM

wow, bezerker, that last pic is looking amazing. I like the idea of using the glowing-butt creature in a cage as a lantern idea. You should make the final scene a little dark so you can have that lighting the way for the BoB. :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

sherban

07-20-2002, 06:26 PM

:eek: wow, i really like this one.
:thumbsup:

specially that firefly-assed guy in the cage.
you should definately make a night scene out of this.

Bezerker75

07-20-2002, 10:44 PM

hey guys thanks for all the possitive feedback:thumbsup:
You guys rock!
Fedron: I will try and add a little more thickness to the leather...if it doesn't alter too much in the way of moving every detail out...hmmm...I will have to play with that one! thanks for the advice!
fellah: Those images really help alot...I didn't have much to use for reference when I was painting the bump...thanks for diggin those up...I had a few small pics of elephants...
do you think the folds and bumps in those pics from dinosaur are created with a bump or some kind of displacement map? also I wonder if some of the folded areas in the neck are actually modeled? anyway thanks again and I will try and work on the texture some more!:thumbsup:
ZrO-1 and sherban: I was debating on making the scene a bit darker (night like) and I still may...I will just have to find a way to do it without compromising the details....

Once again...thanks guys:thumbsup:

rok

07-21-2002, 12:34 AM

I thinnk you should put some nostrils on him - poor fellah...:)

Furthermore some more paintwork on the leatherstraps is needed imo. A gloomier environment would probably look sweet too - but you already mentioned that.

Once again very nice work and hope to see some updates soon.

Bezerker75

07-21-2002, 01:34 AM

I have some updates coming soon...
Rok: You know i was thinking about nostrils then i forgot...hmmmm...good looking out! but as far as the paint work on the leather straps..well...the challenge is really more about the modeling...and that's my main focus right now...I don't have any diffuse textures on this whole model with the exception of the bump maps...everything is done with flat shaders and bumps..and little adjustments in the specularities... maybe after i finish the whole model I will go back in and really texture this beast..I think he deserves to be finished!!

what do you guys think about a blow hole like a whale has? no maybe just regular nostrils! i don't know yet!:bounce:

rok

07-21-2002, 01:58 AM

or a short trunk-like thingy :hmm:

Bezerker75

07-21-2002, 04:07 AM

ok well here is tonights update...been tweeking the textures..haven't finished just got to the front leg...still have the back leg and tail to go...I want to thank you FELLAH:thumbsup: :thumbsup: for those images...perfect reference...and also for challenging me to push myself...I still have some work left to do on the bump...but you insired me to take it further than I probably would have...thanks...
That's why I love this forum...and that is what it is all about anyway...:beer:
so anyway...this is about 3.5 hours of back and forth between max and photoshop...all hand painted with my trust wacom tablet...still got about another 3.5 hours to go I would say...blah...blah..blah...listen to me ramble...lol..anyway until tomorrow..later guys and gals!

Fetus23

07-21-2002, 05:48 AM

that bump is looking really cool....much much better then before...
fetus

ZrO-1

07-21-2002, 07:28 AM

yeah, that new bump is friggin fantastic! awesome stuff. :thumbsup:

fellah

07-21-2002, 10:36 AM

glad you liked the help :) exactly what I wanted to see! BIG improvements! I like the way you've mixed the "round" bumps with the rest. the part over the eyes is superb :thumbsup:
and it looks much better with nostrils! good work Berserker, good!

KnightWhitie

07-22-2002, 01:38 PM

Wow! You have done quite a bit of work since the last time I checked. The latest bump is definitely a plus. Very nice work!:thumbsup:

Gollum

07-22-2002, 02:26 PM

Awesome BoB! The love of detail with the harness and the strong looking beast fit each other exceptionally well. One mroe to add to my list of favourites... :)

Fede

07-22-2002, 02:34 PM

Now This is the reason i wanted to get into CG, this is some of the best stuff ever. The simplicity with which you do all of this is amazing.

LOVE YOUR WORK MAN!!!!

MORE, MORE

Fedron

07-22-2002, 06:08 PM

:applause: the new bump map is a great great improvement Bezerker!!!! This is geting better and better!!!

Ok so, an advice, try to give a second pass to the bump map, BUT this time with the harness. Wearing the harness produce some folds in some areas. And you can optimize your effort, i mean the work you did in the bump for the top of the head is awesome, but useless because of the harness covering this part.

Keep going!! This is becoming really exiting!!
:thumbsup:

Daxx

07-22-2002, 06:49 PM

Yours is a very Amazing model, but i think that is it too human shape....:rolleyes:

Rhid1en

07-22-2002, 06:55 PM

Excellent job! He’s looking really great! I do agree with Fedron however and think you need to add a little more depth to the leather. I don’t think this would necessarily require a ton of work, to at least fake and add a little more interest to the material. Often leather goods like this, they use various thickness in the leather weight, depending on how much pressure is going to be applied to the piece. So, if just certain areas were thickened up, it could be enough, to add a bit a variation and believability to the harness. Also, the harness looks like it would be attached quite firmly and your bob, doesn’t exactly look thrilled about it, maybe add a little detail in areas where it would be tight and pulling on his skin. And definitely take advantage of your lighting idea, even if you don’t darken the scene much!
Well, I’ve got a quick project to whip out in a couple of days, then though, I think you’ve inspired me, although I’d be starting late, you haven’t been working on it all that long and yours looks great, so if I can find the time, I think I need to jump in too! Good luck to you, keep it up!

Rhid1en

07-22-2002, 07:26 PM

Hehe... just watched clerks the other day, Bezerker; your name inspired from their death metal song in the movie?

Bezerker75

07-22-2002, 08:11 PM

hey guys thanks for the great feedback this is what I was looking for...I will try and post some updates tonight if I have time...

Rhid1en: My name is actually partly insipered by clerks..but mainly cause my last name is Zurcher pronounced (Zerker) and I was a little nutty and did a few crazy things in college and my buddies used to call me Bezerker...I think they were part insipered by clerks though! so anyway that's the origin!

Daxx:??????? Too Human Shape????:curious:

Artifex

07-23-2002, 05:16 AM

You've got a great style. He's a totaly belivable caracter.

Bezerker75

07-25-2002, 05:19 AM

k-well I finally finished a landscape for this guy...anyway...here are two composites...I tried to render them in one scene but it was taking forever to render so I just rendered them separately and overlay the beast in....also did a little touch up...this is just for fun....final submission will probably be just gray scale no colors...or are we allowed to use colors? hmmm...well here are two variations anyway...and a wire of the background! :thumbsup:

Bezerker75

07-25-2002, 05:20 AM

here is the other!

Bezerker75

07-25-2002, 05:23 AM

and lastly the background...

ZrO-1

07-25-2002, 05:24 AM

Awesome stuff Bezerker! I think both of those images are really awesome, but I think the red one "pops" more. This piece is really fantastic looking. :applause:

Sleepless

07-25-2002, 06:34 AM

I vote for the red one also, I like how the cool skin tone plays against the red landscape. I really like this, great work.:applause:

Fedron

07-25-2002, 06:47 AM

Very goooooooood!!! :thumbsup:
Pro, super pro!!!!

Fede

07-25-2002, 07:25 AM

Definitely the RED one, even if you can't use colours it's a great portfolio piece.

You have my vote for this one!!!!!!

AroundTheFur

07-25-2002, 01:13 PM

I think the red one could be a lot better if you added some more subtle green to the beast, ie toe nails and little hangin guys have a more greenish tint(even tho its not being judged on texture i think it would help the image greatly). I do like the mood of the blue one more, so play around and see what comes out. cool stuff. :beer:

ZrO-1

07-25-2002, 04:20 PM

Color is allowed in the compatiotion. You just can't use textures. So you can change the color-value of your material, you just can't (or rather won't be judged) map a texture file or proc-texture to the color node.

road

07-25-2002, 04:54 PM

Wow!!!!!!:eek:
this is awesome....
I agree with the red one is da best....
good job on this piece....

SEL

07-26-2002, 03:15 AM

this thead has came along nicelly, you have lots of great ideas with this beast of burden, I especially like the colors you picked and the glowing troll light thing on the front, brilliant idea! Youve done a wonderful job thus far, looking forward to see whose going to be controlling this beast.. keep up the good work.

:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

shaun

Bezerker75

07-27-2002, 05:34 AM

another update! tomorrow I will be posting a final piece due to the fact that I am leaving for Florida on sunday! going to Disney...oh yeah...so anyway here it is!

ZrO-1

07-27-2002, 07:44 AM

That looks absolutley goregous Bezerker. you did a major kick-a$$ job on this piece. I hope mine looks half that good when I'm done. :applause: :applause: :applause:

pit

07-27-2002, 01:50 PM

hey - have a nice trip to Florida!! And thank you for this piece it´s awsome and very inspiring!!

carbonaro

07-27-2002, 06:20 PM

your beast rocks... you got my vote...:buttrock:

AroundTheFur

07-27-2002, 07:05 PM

dAAAAMN mike, that looks really good now. sheet im gonna have to vote for u. :xtreme:

espaki

07-27-2002, 07:16 PM

Beautiful!! Thios is one of my favorite BoB's, excellent all around, no crits. I look forward to seeing your final image-

-Nate

Maxko

07-27-2002, 10:44 PM

Nice pic.
Beast is maybe too simple, but BOB is cool ;)

otacon

07-27-2002, 10:48 PM

Definitely one of the best beasts in this contest.:thumbsup: Have a good vacation.....and dont get too hot down there.:drool: :argh:

ilasolomon

07-27-2002, 11:33 PM

finalist :thumbsup:

Crash

07-28-2002, 12:37 AM

Sweet :) . If you would be able you could make some small sand dunes, that would look much better. As for the beast I have no crits. The only one would be the lamp, there's something amiss about it, I dunno what but take a look at it, maybe you'll catch it to :beer: . Great work, how can I possibly compete with such great CG artists :p .

Bezerker75

07-28-2002, 03:54 AM

wow...thanks for all the great responses....here is the last image for the rest of the week...if I get time I willl be back on August 3rd...and I will try and post a final image...but this is where I am at so far! anway...have fun with your Bobs...oh and I forgot to mention this image goes out to AJ_23 here is Lumbah abd Tumb...as you requested...thanks for the names by the way and they thank you too...lol anyway like I was saying happy ,modeling and have a great week!

AroundTheFur

07-28-2002, 04:31 AM

sick dude, sick. Just make the baby not in the same pose, maybe make the gesture less like the older one, since it is pretty young, it wouldnt be as hunched over seeing as it hasnt been caryin stuff all its life. but lookin really good. :thumbsup:

road

07-28-2002, 06:00 PM

Can't remember if i commented on this or not LOL...
anyway this is amazing...

I love the bumps you used on this ....
The addition of the baby is a great idea...
and looks good not wrinkled...

great job ... hope to see more in the future...

07-28-2002, 06:03 PM

Hoooray!!

Buttock erruptingly excellent stuff!

It was my favourite from your first post - and it still is..

Only thing I'd like to see now are a few renders around the travelling trio, especially lil' Tumb - he's spankingly cute! :D

Iguiniz.X.

07-29-2002, 12:08 AM

yo I haven't seen your threath since the start and I must say that it really is fabulous what you have acheaved.:bounce: :buttrock:
Increadible what you can aceive with only bump mapping eh?
Nice holliays and I look forward to your lst pic.
By for now
:wavey:

Bezerker75

08-04-2002, 03:13 AM

hey guys...man I go away for a week and come back to find all these kick A$$ Bobs...man I just can't compete... you guys have been very busy! I am attaching a few different views in with no color....and the final color unless I get really ambitious before tomorrow...but I think I may have to sleep...Disney wiped me out....had a great time but damn I am tired....anyway here they are....:bounce:

Bezerker75

08-04-2002, 03:14 AM

next...

Bezerker75

08-04-2002, 03:16 AM

3rd....

Bezerker75

08-04-2002, 03:17 AM

final color I think....

skeletor

08-04-2002, 04:08 AM

I liked your beast since the beginning but now I very amazed! VEEEERy nice! Good work!:thumbsup:

ZrO-1

08-04-2002, 04:29 AM

You did a truly amazing piece for this challenge Bezerker. I really love this composition. That color version is with out a doubt one of my all-time favorites. Great work. :applause: :thumbsup: :applause:

levius

08-04-2002, 07:43 PM

Its strange but I like the monochromatic ones most :), anyway
you are in my top 3 BOBs in this challenge :thumbsup:

fellah

08-04-2002, 08:02 PM

good berserker! I must say that I prefer the uncolored renders before the redLit one. it shows of your great model much better :)

pit

08-04-2002, 08:19 PM

Excellent final images - and the composition is very touching! (Could be from a Disney story - has the same emotional impact.) Great!

Mandrake

08-04-2002, 08:37 PM

congrats on a finished work. :beer: You could do some
cartoon renders later. You could be suprised..;)

Lorenzo

08-04-2002, 10:15 PM

so many details, and funny, this is great.
I also prefer the pre-last rendering, because your light is to strenght.
fantastic work !!!:beer: :thumbsup:

mebamonster

08-04-2002, 10:43 PM

Great work! I really want to see you animate this piece. It has such a strong style to it! I love it!

huh?

08-05-2002, 12:26 AM

that's fantastic style...
you master, me jealous....

Artifex

08-05-2002, 12:57 AM

Yeah, I'm with the others, this one really has a great style. There's a soft ambiance in the sinde maybe even a bit sad.

Great work, nicely detailed parts.

Bezerker75

08-05-2002, 04:16 AM

last update...I know it's alittle late hopefully they won't disregard it...but here it is anyway just in case...

MikeRhone

08-05-2002, 04:27 AM

Impressive. I know this contest isnt supposed to comment on textures at all, but I really like your color sceme in some of your earlier posts. I cant offer any specific critique though. J'aime ca!

Mike R

My Beast of Burdon (http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=15302)

pearson

08-05-2002, 07:07 AM

This is great! I'm surprised you've only got 4 stars, cuz this is beautiful! The baby BoB is a great touch, really gives the piece a lot of emotion. Great job with all the little stuff the BoB is carrying, too!

ilasolomon

08-05-2002, 09:51 PM

wow!
1. u r full of ideas
2. u r full of skils
3. u have my 5 stars
4. plz change your avatar!

satanatron

08-06-2002, 03:17 AM

Awesome....is that the Grinch at the reins?

carbonaro

08-07-2002, 03:13 AM

:buttrock:
Man... i hate you for being so damn good.
Good job. Your beast looks so awesome.
:buttrock:
-C-

huh?

08-07-2002, 12:48 PM

yeah! me much impressed...
I realy love it

Have question about your bumpmap... cause i would like to do the same sort of thing... is that planar mapped? how many maps? could you show me?
(post a uv set up or something?)

would be a big help...:shrug:

here's a thread about my surfacingtrouble (http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=16606)