Finding Nemo Wins Best Animated Movie!

[peachstapler]

Riveting!

[daraand]

well deserved

[gruvsyco]

I hope this doesn't come as a surprise to anyone.

[keltuzar]

Yea!

[TRi-14]

Congrats PIXAR on the win and the nominations.

-chris

[agreenster]

No suprise here...

[Ac0rN]

Blah , its no suprise for me either but Id rather see tripplets win...

[hdri]

Of course nobody could get surprised. But do you really think it was a so brilliant script? In my humble oppinion, the story is linear, unsurprising, not comic enough, neither dramatic, not very clever storyline. It also seems like Pixar is becoming a bit disneyish: soft characters, more and more political correct, ... I don't know. I've always loved Pixar, and I do! but Nemo is not the best thing they could have done. I would like to know what do you think about that.

Sorry for my english.

[Supervlieg]

Another well deserved one.

[Valkyrien]

damn frickin straight it wins!!:buttrock:

[Icarus]

w00t,

congrats to pixar and all who have worked on the project.

:)

[roborn]

yeah! Nemo rulllezz!!! it deserved to win!!! :thumbsup:

[danylyon]

Does anyone have more information on the short film that won?

[feefunk]

Funny how nobody even mentionned Adam Elliot's "Harvey Krumpet"... :shrug:

article (http://www.beat.com.au/artsfeature3.shtml)


and an interesting interview (Sleepy Brain) here (http://www.sleepybrain.net/adam.html)

[Garma]

one of those movies that made me laugh hard :love: the birds just rock!

well deserved

[SpaXe]

Wow good^_^

[pogonip]

Nemo was by far there funniest move....even monsters inc is dull to me ...but nemo was great only animated film I seen twice in the theatre :thumbsup:

[Geronimous]

I have to agree on some points here: Nemo was not the best Pixar made or could have made... Don't get me wrong, I love Pixar! the Toy Story's and Monsters Inc. were far better. Nemo had funny one-liners sure... and the animation was fine...

I hope the next 2 Pixar/Disney pictures will be better in storyline!

[Quizboy]

i think cgtalk maybe doesn't plug best animated short because harvie krumpet, the winner is a claymation. But that would be strange because doesn't claymation most likely use compositing?

[rushi]

yaps well deserved:wip:

[RobertoOrtiz]

Originally posted by feefunk
[B]Funny how nobody even mentionned Adam Elliot's "Harvey Krumpet"... :shrug:



Check out this thread.
http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=126377
-R

[Shad0W6600]

"Pixar is becoming a bit disneyish: soft characters, more and more political correct"

How do you make politically correct fish? Also making the characters as they are is only so everyone can enjoy their films. They show you don't need all the gore to make a good movie. Unsuprising win, but well deserved.

[Abhinav3d]

Finding Nemo was awesome and deserved to win but Triplets was pretty good too...

BTW..Can't wait for the incredibles........

[AlbertArt]

IS it me or did he (Stanton) completely evade what his other inspiration for the film was?? The french authors book. He did mention the book somewhere on the Nemo DVD. Its a shame from interview to interview, he doesn't feel as though he owes a tiny bit to that childrens book. But who cares, he won an oscar.

[GeekAnimator]

I'm happy for Pixar, but after having seen Triplets on saturday, I'm not quite sure the best film won...

[AlbertArt]

There is only room for another Disney(pixar). Was anyone even holding their breath before hearing it was Nemo?

[Pikmin]

I think Finding Nemo does not deverse this Oscar. The cg is excellent, but the story is pure crap and not original. The triplets of Belleville deserve the Oscar. A unique movie , with excellent animation , top notch charactere design, incredible atmosphere and a very original story.

This is just a popular vote.

[AlbertArt]

The uniquness of Triplets wasn't enough to win this Oscar. I'm guessing people prefer their stories in the Disney formula, family friendly and OH SO APPEALING.

I think i'm gonna watch Nemo now and spot where he talks about the french book.

Remember everyone, if you want to win an Oscar, don't do anything original, or WITHOUT dialouge, also don't provide your audience with something too CULTURAL. AMericans can't handle that. :rolleyes:

[agreenster]

Originally posted by AlbertArt
The french authors book. He did mention the book somewhere on the Nemo DVD. Its a shame from interview to interview, he doesn't feel as though he owes a tiny bit to that childrens book. But who cares, he won an oscar.

I believe thats a misnomer. Nowhere on the DVD does it mention the book (I've watched it at least 4 times), and the entire story was Stanton's. The French book is coincedence, unless someone can prove otherwise. Besides, they were writing Nemo years before the French book was published.

I think Monster's Inc. was their best film to date story-wise (how more creative can you get than that movie?) but Nemo was VERY funny. I mean, the one liners were funny, and I almost pee'd my pants the first time I saw "whale speak," not to mention the crabs, pelicans (sun's barely up and he's already had more than he can handle), and the "mine" seagulls. Very touching, funny movie.

The technology behind it blew me away too. The imagery was second to NONE, and the animation itself was no small feat. As an animator, making fish swim in a believeable manner, while making them expressive at the same time was nothing short of phenominal.

Props where its due people.

[agreenster]

From the article...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/3435969.stm

Disney denies plagiarism.

In a statement, the company said the case was "meritless."

It said: "It should be beyond doubt that the characters and story of Disney's and Pixar's were developed independently in the US by Pixar writer, director and animator Andrew Stanton, who had never seen or heard of Pierrot Le Poisson Clown, or any of its illustrations or story until this lawsuit was filed in late 2003.

"Finding Nemo is an animated work of art that is beloved by audiences around the world for its endearing characters and compelling story, all of which we hope audiences will enjoy for years to come."

Okay, now I doubt that Disney/Pixar would be stupid enough to make this statement, if Andrew Stanton had made mention of the book on the DVD. (which he didnt)

So give it up already. Pixar has absolutely NO NEED to plagiarise. They have the most talented and creative studio in the world.

[swardson]

Very well deserved. Congrats PIXAR on a great job and winning the OSCAR

[laalaa]

Originally posted by AlbertArt
The uniquness of Triplets wasn't enough to win this Oscar. I'm guessing people prefer their stories in the Disney formula, family friendly and OH SO APPEALING.

I think i'm gonna watch Nemo now and spot where he talks about the french book.

Remember everyone, if you want to win an Oscar, don't do anything original, or WITHOUT dialouge, also don't provide your audience with something too CULTURAL. AMericans can't handle that. :rolleyes:

Uhm, you are terribly wrong? Do you remember Shrek? Was that ordinary Disney story? It more like MOCKED fairytales. How about Spirited Away last year? Yeah, that was american and really Disneyish, NOT!

Nemo was in my opinion simply just better anyway. Originality DOESN'T make a good movie. You know, art house films and original films can be bad too, did you know that? If it's something you've never seen before doesn't mean it's "great". Which wasn't wholly true with Triplets though. It was a great film but Nemo was just better.

[Totitch]

Mmmm... :hmm:

Finding Nemo is a good product sure.

But "les Triplettes de Belleville" was much more original! More artistic! More revolutionary!
And it is a very very very smaller production than the last Pixar one!
it's strange to put such different movies in Competition. David vs Goliath. I eared that only 3 millions of American saw "Les Triplettes de belleville". French production are not able to do marketing and commercials as Disney can do. With the money Disney use for advertisings, in france we do the movie. ;)
that's why i hope more modest movies (but not less original) will win in the future in front of SUPER-HYPER productions... which are sometimes boring.

i'm happy nemo won but my heart is for "Triplettes"! :bounce: :bounce:
http://www.lestriplettesdebelleville.com/

i hope a lot of people will watch "Les Triplettes". Even if it is not a Pixar product.

[agreenster]

If you would have watched the ending of the Oscars, in fine print they state that the only votes counted are by those who saw the movies. So it wasnt that MORE people like Nemo, its that those who saw both, preferred Nemo.

And not calling Nemo revolutionary is rediculous. Pixar is constantly breaking boundaries of what film can look like. Technically, Tripplets looks like a Don Bluth film.

The David and Goliath anaology is actually unfair. Smaller studio films shouldnt get "credit" for being a small studio. The oscars are about the end product, not what it took to get there, unless in a sub category. Best animated feature is just that: which movie is better? period. Its not about marketing.

[rock]

I was very surprised - I thought Lord Of The Rings might have a chance, since it's also animated (Golum, horse and scenery) :)

[AlbertArt]

Sarcasim, Laalaa, Sarcasim.

"It was a great film but Nemo was just better." - Laalaa

Now thats a statement on personal preference. Whos to say what is better? What do you refer to as being better?



I believe thats a misnomer. Nowhere on the DVD does it mention the book (I've watched it at least 4 times), and the entire story was Stanton's.

Okay, now I doubt that Disney/Pixar would be stupid enough to make this statement, if Andrew Stanton had made mention of the book on the DVD. (which he didnt)


Finding Nemo DVD disc 1
AUDIO VISUAL COMMENTARY

He states in 1997 he began writing Notes.

The French book was completed in 1995

After the question of "Why Clown Fish" was posed, this statement is made:

"Actually, I knew nothing about Clown Fish. I knew nothing about fish ingeneral, but I knew the ocean would be cool and I really wanted to see that world and I wanted to do a father son story and so I had to start looking at books. I had to pick a fish, and I opened up this one book at one point and there was these 2 little orange fish with white stripes..." - Stanton

Ok whatever he didn't mention a book... Burnt, Fried and Toasted, i suggest you watch the DVD all over again and get your facts correct.

[agreenster]

Originally posted by AlbertArt

He states in 1997 he began writing Notes.

The French book was completed in 1995

After the question of "Why Clown Fish" was posed, this statement is made:

"Actually, I knew nothing about Clown Fish. I knew nothing about fish ingeneral, but I knew the ocean would be cool and I really wanted to see that world and I wanted to do a father son story and so I had to start looking at books. I had to pick a fish, and I opened up this one book at one point and there was these 2 little orange fish with white stripes..." - Stanton

Ok whatever he didn't mention a book... Burnt, Fried and Toasted, i suggest you watch the DVD all over again and get your facts correct.

Okay, first off, do your homework. The book wasnt completed in 1995, his idea to use a clownfish, and an outline for the story was thought in 1995. He then tried to sell the clownfish idea to studios and book publishers but wasnt successful until 2002 when the book was published. So, there's no way Andrew Stanton could have ever seen that book. Unless Andrew was personal friends with the author... Just Google and you'll find the truth.

Second, Stanton stated he started looking in books. Underwater books. Books about the ocean. Chances are, Stanton didnt invent clownfishes, Mother Nature did. So clownfishes are all over books about tropical reefs. So of course he researched his idea, but what we are all saying is that Stanton never mentioned this FRENCH GUYS book, because he didnt mention it, and had never seen it before because it WASNT IN PRINT until 2002.

DO YOUR HOMEWORK.

http://www.news24.com/News24/Entertainment/Abroad/0,,2-1225-1243_1474732,00.html

http://msnbc.msn.com/id/3840185/

http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/entertainment/books/7604237.htm

Sorry to say, but it is just coincidence.

Who' toasted?

[beaker]

Originally posted by Totitch
But "les Triplettes de Belleville" was much more original! More artistic! More revolutionary!
And it is a very very very smaller production than the last Pixar one!
it's strange to put such different movies in Competition. David vs Goliath. I eared that only 3 millions of American saw "Les Triplettes de belleville". French production are not able to do marketing and commercials as Disney can do. With the money Disney use for advertisings, in france we do the movie. ;)
that's why i hope more modest movies (but not less original) will win in the future in front of SUPER-HYPER productions... which are sometimes boring.
Then how in the world did Spirited Away win last year against many other 100 million dollar disney movies? Your logic is flawed. Disney distributed Spirited Away in the USA, but they did a really shitty job with it. It only made 5 million in the US. They should have never won if what you said is true.

[Shinova]

Nemo was great, sure, but it's "double climax" ending sucked big time.


I thought Monsters Inc and Toy Story 2 were much, much better.

[Totitch]

Shinova

I agree with you! Finding nemo is just one more Pixar. I didn't find in it the "force" i found in the first Pixars.
In my opinion, pixar must explore other directions and not fall in the same way Disney used...The commercial and security one.
(again, i hope young farts will not become crazy and start a loooong debate. it's just my opinion. i know it's not the main one.)

For me, "les Triplette de Belleville" got this "Force" i'm waiting for.
Maybe it's because it's the first real big movie from Sylvain Chomet and maybe if it was the 3rd or more in the same style, i would tell the same critics as i tell about "Fiding nemo".

agreenster: Try to be objective sometimes.
Tripplets looks like a Don Bluth film ????
Ahahaha... Did you see "Les Triplettes"?
oh sorry. yes...it's a 2D movie...like Don Bluth right!
:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

[alxcote]

bleh, i didn't like nemo soo much. just another flashy CG with lots of effects...sure it looks real neat but nothing compared to the triplets.

of course the american big budget winning lots of cash on the box office was going to win...

shame

[worx3d]

hello...

haven't watched Tripplettes.. but if the movie is as cahotic as the trailer, well, I don't feel atracted. Perhaps I'll watch for curiosity's sake, but I have to tell you that Nemo looked more interesting when I saw the trailer. I'm not american nor french, so you could say I'm not biased towards a specific production. I just enjoy what comes my way.

[agreenster]

Originally posted by Totitch
Shinova
agreenster: Try to be objective sometimes.
Tripplets looks like a Don Bluth film ????
Ahahaha... Did you see "Les Triplettes"?
oh sorry. yes...it's a 2D movie...like Don Bluth right!
:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

I believe we were talking about the technique, whether or not Tripplets was 'revolutionary.' I dont think it is, technically. And yes, it looked a lot like Don Bluth films, in appearance. (midtonal, almost monochromatic, sketchy, loose animation) I dont think theres any denying that.

Subject matter wise, of course not. It was unique. It was a beautiful film. But it just wasnt as good as Nemo. Thats all.

[AlbertArt]

LOL, he hooked up the links!:applause: Thanks for the linkage, now I see that there are more similarities to both the book and the film.

I can't help but wonder why people want to get all fired up about this, did I push a button? Nemo won the award and another artist can't get his S%^t off the ground and selling. Single parent Clown fishes are all over books? Tell me when you find the other half orphaned Clown Fish Book.

Stanton was looking for a book that had themes that he wanted, so he may have took them. But from what book? He clearly mentions "A Book", but I wonder if he wants to reveal the title and author of it, and don't tell me he forgot.

Curious though, how could the french guy pitch something to studios and publishers without a production package, in 1995? Usually they contain concepts that would get something made.

Also why would Pixar bother making Finding Nemo a childrens book on the DVD and in the stores, Leap 1 Reading Book: Finding Nemo?

The similarities are sufficiently troubling for us to ask for an explanation from Disney.”

my toast got burt up:cry:

[pearson]

Actually, I forget where I heard/read it, but Stanton first got the idea from a walk in the park with his kid. He had been working lots and not seeing his son much and really wanted the afternoon to be fun and special for them, but instead all he found himself saying was stuff like "Don't do that! Don't step in that! Be careful!" And not letting them really enjoy their time together.

I think it extremely unlikely that when he was looking for what kind of fish he wanted the characters to be, that he would turn to a story book instead of a big coffee table picture book! lol That's how all designers get ideas for how to draw animals. :rolleyes:

[pearson]

Hey, guys, Eisner here.

Just wait till people get over the whole 3D thing...then Pixar will suck just like us...er...I mean...uh. Disney is going to rock as soon as we do an all 3D movie! That's why trippletes didn't win: not 3D, plain and simple. People don't care about story or character anymore. They just look at whether it's 3D and then go watch it! Just like they did with our Dinosaur! Beautiful 3D that was! Too bad it sucked at the box office....uh...er...I mean...well. It wasn't 100% 3D I mean! It had film plates in some shots! That's why people didn't like it! That must be it! Because Pixar's whole success has been just a lucky technology fluke!

- Mike

PS please don't vote me off the island!

[pearson]

Originally posted by AlbertArt
Also why would Pixar bother making Finding Nemo a childrens book on the DVD and in the stores, Leap 1 Reading Book: Finding Nemo?

Just a reminder that Disney owns all the rights related to any products outside of the movie itself. Pixar doesn't say they want to make a book, Disney does.

Also, if you read a great story and wanted to plagerize it wouldn't you at least change the main character to a different kind of fish?

I also think it extremely unlikely that there has never been a story about a single parent fish until these two suddenly come out. It's only that they are both clown fish that causes the ruckus.

Like Antz and A Bugs Life. Two studios working on all CG movies to be released within months of each other...and they both pick ants as the subject?! But, as far as I heard there was no lawsuit about that one...:shrug:

[agreenster]

Originally posted by AlbertArt
He clearly mentions "A Book", but I wonder if he wants to reveal the title and author of it, and don't tell me he forgot.

Curious though, how could the french guy pitch something to studios and publishers without a production package, in 1995? Usually they contain concepts that would get something made.


Dude. Are you dense? He said he wanted to do a movie about the ocean. Check. (no plagiarism so far, right?) So, he said he couldnt decide on a character. Check. (no plagiarism so far, right?) So he looked in books about the ocean, complete with illustrations of fish and photos and the like. Check. (no plagiarism so far, right?) Then he sees a picture of a clownfish. "Huh! Thats a cute fish. Maybe I'll use that for my story Im writing." (no plagiarism so far, right?)

And yes, this French guy pitched his ideas to studios in france, with drawings and a general outline, etc. in 1995. So where did Andrew Stanton steal his ideas from? Does HE live in france? Did he get an early release of the book? It wasnt released until 2002!!! Cmon dude. This is nonsense!

[AlbertArt]

Hey, I'm just pushing your buttons and I see its working:applause: You got all the answers so just keep giving them:bowdown: So tell me was there one clown fish or 2? Do I have to retype that same quote that came directly from him on the DVD? 2 fish with stripes.:hmm:

All i'm wondering is what books did he look at? What other clown fish books are there?
NO he doesn't live in France, No he doesn't have a release of the book.

But apparently someone is getting too emotional here. May as well shut this thread down.:p check your attitude at the door please.

[agreenster]

You know, I guess you're right. You are pushing my buttons because I think Pixar is a phenominal studio, with phenominal talent. I dont think they plagiarized anything, because they dont need to. Andrew Stanton is a stand up guy, with more talent than most of us will ever dream of having.

And with that, congrats Pixar, you deserved it, no matter what this silly guy says.

But we already knew that, didnt we?

[hypercube]

It's extremely likely you could open a *non-fiction* book about oceanic life and find a *photograph* of two clownfish.

Heck, this pic right here is either the first or second entry in a google search about clownfish..how's this?

http://tools.coralreef.org/content/images/photo.acs?photo_id=1858&object_id=547&size=md

I agree this whole argument is overheated, but you seem to be persisting in the more ridiculous side of it without listening to reason, IMO.


And back to the ACTUAL topic, I think Nemo was a great movie myself, I enjoyed it immensely, and didn't find it stale at all. Also while Triplets is absolutely fantastic, fresh, and innovative in its style, but I think maybe you have to have a similar screw loose to truly appreciate it the same way 'we' do, which is why it didn't pan out for the entire academy, along with the fact it's still in heinously limited release and they may not have all even gotten screeners for it. So it goes.

[Toonabel]

i thought, you had to see the films to be able to vote on them right? so distribution doesnt really play a role in what the academy votes now does it?

originality doesnt always equal greatness. when i was in school i knew a guy who ripped the toyota emblem off his car and replaced it with a BMW one, that was pretty original and kinda ballsy, still, it was really really lame.

he didnt get too many pats on the abck for that move, probably rightly so.

anyways, Congrats to Pixar. i'm personally bummed out about Roy not getting his chance to chastise Eisner, that would have been hilarious. but im sure the better film won in that catagory just as the better film one is this one.

[cukuoo]

Originally posted by gruvsyco
I hope this doesn't come as a surprise to anyone.
Of coures not!!!!:beer:

[agreenster]

Originally posted by Toonabel
i thought, you had to see the films to be able to vote on them right? so distribution doesnt really play a role in what the academy votes now does it?

Correct.

[kiwi123]

He guys,

Personally I liked Finding Nemo the most of Pixars movies so far. Maybe because it's such a beautiful visual spectacle, maybe because I liked the jokes better. Anyway, I think it deserved it's oscar.
The Triplettes was a real surprise for me, very nice, very well made, very ehhhh french (different...?). That would have deserved an oscar just as well as far as I am concerned.

But hey, isn't the Oscar an American thing ? It's not so strange they don't "get" the triplettes because it's simply made in a different style, very european.

Wiek

[SheepFactory]

Originally posted by Totitch
Mmmm... :hmm:

Finding Nemo is a good product sure.




give me a break!! calling nemo a "product" is an insult to all the great artists who worked on it. As much as I love triplets (hell I saw it 6 times in theatres) Nemo deserved that award , its pretty much flawless from beginning to the very end (minus the stupid "oh my is nemo dead again" scene at the end"


This is just another case of everyone rooting for the underdog.

[Mr_Lunchbox]

Personally, despite how good "Finding Nemo" was, I think I have to admit that "Monsters, Inc." was a better film. Unfortunately, I think that it was just massively misunderstood by the public, and thereby tremendously underrated. People tell me "Oh, I didn't like it. It wasn't funny at all." Well, that wasn't the point of the movie. It wasn't about the humor. It was about friends. It was about family. You know what I mean? People just sort of... oversighted and misconstrued the point of "Monsters, Inc." "Finding Nemo" is a wonderful film and it fully deserved to win, but I still think it's a little overzealous to say that it was the best movie Pixar's ever made.

Why I ranted about this, I don't know. But whatever.

[agreenster]

Monsters Inc. was fabulous. I pop it in at least once a week when I'm working to get inspiration. One of the best endings to a film EVER. I get goosebumps every time. Im such a sucker.

[Caravaggio]

*drive by posting*
As much as I liked nemo, I would've gone with Belleville.

[Ac0rN]

Okey ppl, this is how it is!

Nemo sucked , tripplets should have won.

Nemo=product

Pixar=losers

End of story!

Topic Closed !

[ken0]

Okey ppl, this is how it is!

Nemo sucked , tripplets should have won.

Nemo=product

Pixar=losers

End of story!

Topic Closed !


Muhahaha...How can you say that?!!!!

Nemo was far better than tripplets! Though Tripplets was not a bad story!

Monsters inc is the best animation movie i've ever seen!

c:shrug:

[Neil]

There wasn't really any competition to begin with. Only 3 films were nominated? I thought i remember seeing more stuff than that.

[Boone]

Well, I must say that finding Nemo certainly did something for me - I bought it on DVD yesterday!:bounce:

Whether PIXAR have a large studio or not - they have produced a wonderful film. I don't feel that its a "product" - just made to appeal to people of all ages...and they pulled it off!

After Toy-story2 & Monsters Inc, I thought they were a little "run-of-the-mill", but this film shows why PIXAR is the creative force they are today.

My favorite little piece of animation is where Coral says "We're gonna be Parents!!!" - fantastic expression!

My only gripe is that PIXAR only has Modelling, Animating, Texturing and Rendering departments...no rigging department!!!:rolleyes:

[Geckopunk83]

Originally posted by agreenster
And not calling Nemo revolutionary is rediculous. Pixar is constantly breaking boundaries of what film can look like. Technically, Tripplets looks like a Don Bluth film.

Okay what exactly is THAT supposed to mean anyways? That to you it "looks like a Don Bluth film" whats wrong with Don Bluth anyways? He only did...
-American Tail
-Land Before Time
-Secret of NIHM
If it was ment as some form of insult to the quality of the movie, IMO you failed.

anyways, also IMHO, comparing 3D and 2D movies is like comparing apples and oranges.
they are COMPLETELY DIFFERENT.
The styles, how they are made, etc etc, all different.
You say Pixar is groundbreaking, but not Triplettes. Why? Because Pixar movies are 3D (ooo new 3D,exciting) and Triplettes is 'boring old 2D'?
Gimme a break here...(did you even watch Triplettes?)
Finding Nemo deserved a *3D*Animation award
Triplettes deserved a *2D* Animation award.

[AlbertArt]

-Pixar won! Good for them.

- tripletts almost got it! Good for them, especially with no dialouge, using the animation to convey everything. No talking lesbian fish here. *kidding*

-Comparing personal preference is a an impossible debate.

-Saying something is "FAR better" then the other especially with 2d and 3d is a joke.

-This is a CG forum, so obviously the majority of people here are impressed by everything 3d, especially when they've never attemped doing 2d animation.

-try using a pencil instead of a mouse and have some respect for the hard ass work that goes into making a film on PAPER.

- SO whos waiting for that Brother Bear 2?:D

[Ac0rN]

Finding Nemo deserved a *3D*Animation award
Triplettes deserved a *2D* Animation award.

Actually I aggre with THAT, its more fair, 2d and 3d animation are totally different but academy seem not understand that or maybe they dont want to have to many oscar topics

[agreenster]

Originally posted by Geckopunk83
Okay what exactly is THAT supposed to mean anyways?


Dude, go back and read the thread. I already covered this twice. it wasnt meant as an insult. The guy said Nemo wasnt revolutionary (and I assumed he meant technically, and if that isnt what he meant, fine) and I was just saying that tripplets was not as groundbreaking because it looked (as in appearance, style, visual mood) to a Don Bluth film. I could have just as easily said traditional techniques and meant the same thing. Truth is, I thought I was being complimentary. At least I didnt say it looked like a homestarrunner cartoon! (sorry homestar...)

It wasnt an insult. I grew up watching Bluth films. I was just saying that it used traditional techniques.

Chill out!

And it isnt that Nemo was "Ooooh 3D exciting." Its that visually, they are doing things NEVER been done before. The level of visualization is beyond what has been done. They are pioneers. Which story was better? Dunno. But that's not what we were talking about. Just technique.

And I was a 2D animator long before a 3D one, and I love 2D.

Why must people jump to conclusions and be so aggressive?

[agreenster]

Originally posted by AlbertArt
-This is a CG forum, so obviously the majority of people here are impressed by everything 3d, especially when they've never attemped doing 2d animation.

-try using a pencil instead of a mouse and have some respect for the hard ass work that goes into making a film on PAPER.


I would wager that at least 90% of the professional animators here on these boards began as 2d animators. Be careful what you say. It IS a professional forum.

[AlbertArt]

Ok then, I tread carefully with that comment. I think I've been watching too many Modeling reels on this forum which blurred by vision.

[agreenster]

Originally posted by AlbertArt
Ok then, I tread carefully with that comment. I think I've been watching too many Modeling reels on this forum which blurred by vision.

That'll do it every time! :D

[Wanggo]

Congrats Pixar and to all the nominees!!!

Nemo was a great film...haven't seen Triplets, Brother Bear but planning to soon.

I'm happy for Triplets getting all these praise and attention. It shows that 2d animation ain't dead/dying/boring/not innovative/not moneymaker/not funny/not cool anymore/yada yada yada...like a lot of people are proclaiming nowadays.

Question, why wasn't Sinbad nominated? Is there a limit to the number of nominees to 3? Same question for Matrix Rev. for special effects catergory

[AlbertArt]

Please don't get me started on 100 agent smiths. Oh wait that was reloaded.:blush:

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