CGTalk - Indigen - the Movie

kanex

07-02-2002, 08:35 PM

Originally posted by Edge
Whooooo.....
Some great model you got there....:thumbsup:
It looks really professional, lightning is excellent !
Good job!

I do however agree with Hypercube that the little guy looks a lot like Scrat from Ice Age.
Nevertheless, :D

Keep it up - cheers.

:scream:

Yop, Chris Wedge is our Master, and we copied his Scrat it's true, i assume it.

SEL

07-02-2002, 08:36 PM

I thought the movie was fantastic, the only thing I would suggest as far as landing a big job, would be to bring down the violence to the road runnner and wiley coyote standards. Love the effects, and thought it was a great all around film, work on story line a little more for I got confused as to why the boy wanted to kill the squirrel so bad, (for looking at his food?) Story is big in the industry. Other then that, I would rate this film as one on my top favorites as far as short films. It had everything except the nude naked big breasted female on the side. Great job guys.

Dimitrius

07-02-2002, 08:43 PM

Very funny. Violence seemed a little over the top - but that didn't mean I didn't laugh.

Completely entertaining, well done.

dmonk

07-02-2002, 09:29 PM

Great stuff!:thumbsup:

Great soundtrack:thumbsup:

alot of violence but no more than itchy and scratchy from the simpsons.:shrug:

I really enjoyed it though.

You should think about getting this on teardrops on tech tv.

Joril

07-02-2002, 09:42 PM

Lol, great fun!

Sounds out of Starcraft and Carmegeddon eh? :D
Fantastic work!
*watches it again*
Oh, the voilence is pretty wild, like the sliced head. But that's ok with me
:applause:

kanex

07-02-2002, 09:46 PM

wow, congrats to recognize the Carma sounds !

What's teardrops on tech TV ?

Mikademius

07-02-2002, 09:49 PM

And I really, really mean that

Taoizm

07-02-2002, 09:51 PM

Beautiful.... the expressions, the action, the dismemberments. Brings a tear to my eye:D

Wadus

07-02-2002, 10:02 PM

This was very good!!!

I laughed all the way through it.

I really liked the end when he slapped him in the head--I laughed before they did :)

I also like the Chili Peppers for music...

Reo

07-02-2002, 10:12 PM

he he squish

good stuff

Kaz

07-02-2002, 10:45 PM

Now that was great work
Must have taken forever to make. All the enviroments, characters, animations, render time, editing, rerender. Top notch stuff. Like Pixar but ultra cool violence. How many people were involved in the whole thing? I couldn't read the blurry credits, plus I couldn't stop watching the side video on the credits. Poll dancing that's great.
what kind of systems you do this on? What school? maya right?

Henrik Hörlin

07-02-2002, 11:01 PM

awesome!

Loved it!

Do it again! I mean... more!! do some more!!!!

The movements needs a little work but... who cares? Great!

Fatal error! BWaaaahaaaaa!

ilasolomon

07-02-2002, 11:10 PM

WTH!....SUPERAMAZINGCOOL....5star, noway!

AroundTheFur

07-02-2002, 11:44 PM

Lovely! Simply beautiful, i hope to make animations this good some day. :xtreme: :buttrock:

Calle

07-03-2002, 12:30 AM

WOW! I think this is the best short I've ever seen. :)

How long did it take to make?

kanex

07-03-2002, 12:44 AM

We started production late of january...

We are 4 on this one.

goosh

07-03-2002, 12:47 AM

Nice stuff!!

You guys must have worked a lot and hard at it.

I did find a few things disturbing:

1) The violence. I don't understand why people in general go for so much violence in an animation. If you are doing it for fun and as a personal project, then it's cool. But if you are looking for a job, I would stay away from that much violence. You might have awesome animation but the person responsible for hiring might think the violence is too much and will overlook your animation all together. You should always be carefull not to offend people, groups of people or whatever. You never know who might look at your animation. (ie. too much violence, sex, religion, racial issues, etc... why go there? you can still do awesome stuff and please everybody)

2) Scrat lookalike. As soon as I saw the squirel I thought of scrat. You guys did a great job, but it's too difficult (I'm not saying imposible, but very very difficult) to top the original Scrat. So personally I inmediatelly compared yours with Scrat and I thought, yeah, wow, great job, but it's not Scrat. So, what I'm saying is... be original.

3) Story. I'm either very keen on having an awesome story, or just doing short tests. Personally for getting a job as an animator I think short tests are perfect. Having a story will help in other areas (like being able to do a lot of different things, etc) Anyway, if you are going to have a story, make it an awesome story. Some meaning to it. Somebody mentioned that they didn't know why the two chars were fighting so much. I also wondered the same thing.. I figured it was because of the chicken, but it wasn't clear enough.

Anyway.. you guys did an awesome job.. I just wanted to mentioned something in general and your short provided the perfect sceneario for it

goosh

kanex

07-03-2002, 01:09 AM

Originally posted by goosh
Nice stuff!!

I did find a few things disturbing:

1) The violence.

2) Scrat lookalike.

3) Story.

goosh

Well shortly, i would say, no i don't like politically corretc stuff that shouldn't arm anyone, our soucres are Otomo, Romero, Raimi, and we assume it and like it. Sorry for people who are not please, i'd say to them go watch a Disney

Scrat lookalike : yeah, we saw the first teaser a year ago and we all fell in love of it, and since Ice Age was planned to be realesed exactly 2 days before our own release, we found it funny to try to make it too, and a good exercise... it's obvious the original Scrat is a LOT better, but we learned much trying to make fur, and such animations...

The story ? What story?

ilasolomon

07-03-2002, 01:22 AM

i only can say : I WANT HIGHER REZ VERSION AS SOOOON AS POSSIBLE!"
no matter it might go 100mb & over! i have a 56k connection but
i will d/l it! :)
some shots reminde me SIMON BIZLEY, too...

kanex

07-03-2002, 01:36 AM

Well i'm not sure a Higher Rez version would be very Carfull...

What do you think ? Someone may steal our work...

element412

07-03-2002, 03:18 AM

:surprised :surprised :surprised
écoeurant!!!!! trop fort!

la meilleur short depuis ''the cathedral''......wow .

histoire vraiement drole...c'est vraiment tordant.

ca serait pratique d'avoir des infos sur plein de choses...
apps.... rendertimes...etc....

et moi aussin jai un doute sur la version hirez.

anyway...excellent...
5stars!

element

Chico

07-03-2002, 04:18 AM

Very nice work forst off.:thumbsup:

Im impressed at the lighting and texturing...I think the animation was pretty good too...(I watched it about 5 hours ago:) )

Though I really think the violence was too much. You say go watch a disney...well fine fair comment. But what I thnk you guys needed to do was plan your shots with thw violence to have alittle more inpact IMO. you should have been a little more subtle.

Too mee I loks like the Violence is simply there...well cause You can :scream: Which is fine...but if you look at some of the more classic horror clicks youll see the ones that stand out rely more on the camera treatments than the acual "blood and Guts".

Over all I must say again...It was Beautiful. Keep it up:beer:

Diffused

07-03-2002, 04:42 AM

How long did it take you to do this? This is unbelievable! school, project? christ, that a fricking portfolio right there.

Dis

07-03-2002, 05:02 AM

are you planning to release a divx version ? quicktime not working here.. :hmm:

YemYam

07-03-2002, 05:12 AM

I enjoyed it quite a bit, especially the violence. I thought it was a nice juxtaposition to the cartoony look of everything else. Regardless of who you might possibly offend you have to do what entertains you or you won't have the drive to finish the project (especially when dealing with the extremely fun task of learning all of the software and techniques).

Besides, you'll have plenty of time to create what everyone else wants (or what's socially "acceptable") as soon as you get a gig in the industry. So why not have fun with your studen work and be true to your artistic tastes? I have a hard time believing that someone wouldn't recognize these guys as talented just because they have an affection for gore.

Kanex, you said you started in Jan so you finished in 5-6 months? How many students again? I would be curious for a little more detailed info on the hours logged, people involved, and production process if you can delve out a bit more info.

Again, very nice work!

underdog

07-03-2002, 07:18 AM

Originally posted by Dis
are you planning to release a divx version ? quicktime not working here.. :hmm:

I agree, quicktime and my linux boxen don't get along too well. Any chance of that divx version?

kanex

07-03-2002, 09:42 AM

ok i'll think about the divx version, but i don't have a Sound Codec, what codec should i use for sound ???

Anyway here is a Windows Media version for who wants :
http://indigen.free.fr/data/indigen11.wmv

Oren Ben-Tov

07-03-2002, 09:53 AM

congratulation :beer:

was it rendered in the defult scanline in max?

erakesh

07-03-2002, 10:01 AM

Hey this stuff is really good. You ppl at Supinfocom do real good stuff. I have seen all the submissions to Siggraph last year. Are you going to sumit this one too. Great going! keep it up!!!!!! :-)

:thumbsup: :thumbsup:

Okke

07-03-2002, 10:10 AM

I've got 2 words for you......LOVE IT:love:

It reminds me a bit of "Roadrunner" only witch one is the wolf...

Thumbs up...:thumbsup:

Pegasus

07-03-2002, 10:12 AM

JUST COOL

The animal reminds me a bit of the cute one in "ICE AGE".

I LOVE IT :bounce:

Calle

07-03-2002, 10:13 AM

I guess the inspiration for the ion cannon comes from akira. :) Awesome.

MrWyatt

07-03-2002, 10:55 AM

WOW

don´t know if i formated right

fischinger

07-03-2002, 11:02 AM

Very very very very very very nice!!!!

Just watched the Quicktime and beside the look and the story it has got an exelent timing.

How many people worked on it and how long did it take. Sorry if I might have missed the answer to this question before.

cheers alex

Thoth

07-03-2002, 11:15 AM

I'm downloading it right now ...based on the pics it should be amazing.

What software(s) you used for it?

Pancreas

07-03-2002, 11:17 AM

Wosh! I´ve never laughed so much! I´d pay for seeing this man, i´m sick of disney. The rocket part is my favorite, the animation is amazing.
Argh, my jaw aches. :applause: :applause: :applause:

underdog

07-03-2002, 11:24 AM

Hey yeah windows medias fine too. That rocked my boxers! I laughed my ass off.

:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

rollmops

07-03-2002, 11:27 AM

:thumbsup:
DINGUE!
'sont des malades a Sup.
EXCELLENT!

Tim Deneau

07-03-2002, 12:38 PM

Haha, awesome work! Well done :thumbsup:

iC4

07-03-2002, 12:53 PM

omg.....this is amazing :bowdown:

zappenduster

07-03-2002, 01:54 PM

really nice work

the violence factor is ok its nearly on the itchy and scratchy level =)

but i think some cuts are too fast to recocnigize whats happening

and at last plz make a hi rez version for download 720x488 which was the original resolution i think =)

My Fault

07-03-2002, 04:13 PM

Bloody brilliant!! or should I say, Bloody and Brilliant :thumbsup:

Just a great job all around, Looney Tunes for the digital age. Really a shame about the "Scrat" like creature though, just too much like him for comfort.

You guys should just form your own mini studio and rip up a few new episodes. I know I can't wait for more, more, MORE!!!

Nico

leigh

07-03-2002, 04:19 PM

:applause: :applause:
I laughed my ass off :D
I particularly love the bit when they go through the elephant - HYSTERICAL!!!

Excellent work :thumbsup:

Wiro

07-03-2002, 04:39 PM

I liked the violence. It's so over the top that you just can't take it seriously. The part where he gets his head flipped open was great! And the glass shards when he flies through the window, LOL.
I didn't miss the lack of story either.

I thought of Scrat at first too...a different character would have been better. The lighting and modelling was ace. The facial animation was great too, but I think the body moves were a bit off some times. Often there was no anticipation in the moves and the timing wasn't always right.
Overall great though, it's already made it's rounds at work :D

By the way, could you make the movie downloadable instead of playing on-site? It always crashed IE after a minute or so. I had to go into the source code to get the direct link to the movie and download it...

Wiro

Tomasis

07-03-2002, 06:34 PM

the story is not very fascinating.. typically cartoon movie for kids..

but you have done good work with 3d and effects.

Kulu_Kulu

07-03-2002, 06:39 PM

"j'adore" :)

vous avez bcp de talent et (j'espère ) un putain d'avenir!
c super caca prout ce court !!!

continuez j'espère qu'on aura droit a des goodies sur le site :D

kulu

Stereotype

07-03-2002, 07:02 PM

This has been asked before but not answered.
What software, did you use for rendering?
Just looks absolutely awesome!

kanex

07-03-2002, 07:08 PM

Thanks a lot for all your congrats ! It's really nice to hear you love this movie, we had fun making it either...

The DivX version is uploading right now and the videos are avaiable as downloads...

We used Max to do this, and only max (no renderer)...

It took us 6 months, as we started late January.

We are 4 teammates...

My Fault

07-03-2002, 07:16 PM

I saw that Max was mentioned in the credits, but the interface looked like Maya. Is that what Max looks like now or is that a ui enhancement?

Pretty danged impressive for 4 blokes and 6 months. You guys back to the grindstone working on something else, or would you have to kill me if ya told me? ;)

Nico

misterboogie

07-03-2002, 07:16 PM

Spectacular!!

The mixture of Ice Age and Loony Toons is hilarious!!

Wiro

07-03-2002, 07:22 PM

I could have sworn I saw Maya in the credit videos!!???

Wiro

chlywly

07-03-2002, 07:23 PM

I loved it, what program did you use for it? Max?
how did you acheive that sort of glowy glossy look on everything?
I like that, reminded me a little of iceage. Good work.
use any shaders?

kanex

07-03-2002, 07:23 PM

Nope it's 100 % Discreet Max

HapZungLam

07-03-2002, 07:46 PM

it is a school project???? ahhh~~~~. i think is done by a studio.

The Magic Pen

07-03-2002, 09:08 PM

Deffinatly the best student demo reel I have ever seen !! The humor and other stuff was wacky but as far as production value goes with the CGI , top notch ..definatly see some big things for you guys !! :thumbsup:

Wiz

07-03-2002, 09:53 PM

this is great work
but not best student work ive seen
theres guy from my country have done 2 4 mins movie allrdy
and he only now in hes last year of school and he did it alone! very amazing

Wiz

07-03-2002, 09:54 PM

i got a question :
theres a part of the movie when he is in the car
part of hes body comes out of the frame ,HOW did you do that??
when theres close up on the face

ilasolomon

07-03-2002, 11:25 PM

am i right?...u said the renderer is max' default scanline?!?! :surprised
wow nice lighting. :eek:
:thumbsup:

& what did you mean by "stealing your work?" how could anybody
steal your work by watching the hires (640x...) movie?!
i want the hires RIGHT NOW!!! (i want to record it on betaCAM
& send it to annecy! :) hahaha

baby

07-03-2002, 11:35 PM

Wiz...it's very easy to do such a thing!!!!

just composite the character rendered separatly(with alpha) for example at 768*576 on your 16/9 picture at 768*432...and the character will get out...

i did that with a cartoon plane, last year I think...

Funny effect and hommage to Tex Avery of course !!!

by the way do you really think quality = lenght ?!?!?

fellah

07-03-2002, 11:37 PM

whohohoho :D
this must be the best made _and_ funniest short I've seen in a long long time! I recommend all you '56k ppl' to download it during the night if you haven't already, 5stars! :thumbsup:

carlos3D

07-03-2002, 11:43 PM

:thumbsup: :thumbsup: Great Job! TWO BIG THUMBS UP!

Wiz

07-04-2002, 12:26 AM

not 24 mins
2 shorts of 4 mins .and no its not the lengths .the animtion is excelent and he did it all alone

AnimaLMotheR

07-04-2002, 12:27 AM

Great stuff man. :D:D:thumbsup::thumbsup:

Needs more blood tho. ;)

baby

07-04-2002, 12:29 AM

HO ok !!! :D

BgDM

07-04-2002, 12:34 AM

I can't stop laughing my ass off!! Flying through the elephant made me almost wet my pants it was that funny.

Top notch stuff guys.

Can't wait to see what you guys do next!!

BgDM

ilasolomon

07-04-2002, 12:35 AM

baby, i like your previous AVATAR much more!

baby

07-04-2002, 12:39 AM

yup...1h40 in the morning...very tired and bored...and playing with avatars and transparency !!!!

;)))

I'll put my baby head back soon !!! (is that the one you are refering ?!?)

ilasolomon

07-04-2002, 01:01 AM

hehe yes that blue head with scanlines!
& now here the time is 4:30 a.m & not tired yet! :)
surfing the web....

pabbloz

07-04-2002, 01:44 AM

AMAZING! :thumbsup:

kfc

07-04-2002, 02:11 AM

i must say, this piece of work is very successful in terms of entertainment.
last night my college and students laught from the start till then end. and i haven't been laughing at an animation for quite a long time since ice-age.

:thumbsup:
5 Stars~!

FloydBishop

07-07-2002, 05:08 PM

Originally posted by kanex
Hello !

We (i and my teammates) have finished our SchoolProject : Indigen

You can watch the movie on its website :

http://indigen.free.fr

Great job guys!! I worked on "Ice Age" and would have loved to have seen Sid or Manny lose half their heads like the guy in your short!!

The end where the two characters start laughing is my favorite part!! I also like the fly through of the elephant and the MIR shooting the beams at them. The story is as good as it needs to be (for me). How much story went into the Road Runner/Coyote shorts?

You guys definitely have your $h!T together!!
:bounce:

When does the DVD come out?

Chico

07-07-2002, 09:51 PM

WEll i mentioned about the the violence content earlier,

But a few nights ago I was at a LAN and showed this movie to 6+ males 30-40 years and counting...and they loved it..They reconed it was one of the best this thed seen for years.

So at the end oif the day, Good Job:thumbsup:

(I went to my first lan for years the other day and to my surprise I was the youngest by 10 years..??? I felt so out of place, half expecting it to be little kids.:shrug: )