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Djernis
02-08-2004, 06:47 PM
Hi Boy's and Girls

I have a question here for "The Animators" both the newbee's and the pro's...

I'm curently researching what people think is hard to animate.
Therefore I would really like to hear your opinion on this matter. What do you find hard to animate ??

Exampels:
"I find it hard to animate the shoulder"
"I find it hard to animate a man climbing up a latter"
"Facial expressions like...."
and so on...

Looking forward to hear from you :)

Greetings | Martin Andersen (Borrowing Djernis' profile for today)

Rodi
02-09-2004, 01:15 PM
Hmm, I' am animating a character which looks fantastic when it is just standing still, but as a moving mass it looks horrible, so even if the animation is good the visual dynamics fail it's potential, so i think the hardest thing to animate is a bad badly thought out character who will never look good. :-)

Hexodeci
02-09-2004, 05:01 PM
anything subtle is hard to animate because its hard to find the right mvement to act it out.

Also any sort of climbing or quadped is hard.

Pinoy McGee
02-10-2004, 02:23 AM
anything subtle is hard to animate

Hexo.....are you a pro or somebody who just animates a lot?

;)

'Cuz you're absolutely right.

Hexodeci
02-10-2004, 03:09 AM
just a sophomore in art school trying to animate something subtle...the character goes from loss...to acceptance of his loss in 10 seconds. The acceptance part has been giving me a lot of trouble :o)

steveblake
02-10-2004, 10:38 AM
Originally posted by Djernis
I'm curently researching what people think is hard to animate.
Therefore I would really like to hear your opinion on this matter. What do you find hard to animatte?

As you say, shoulders can be a problem, but they're more of a rigging / skinning issue rather than specific performance related or 'character' animation which I think is what what your are referring to .

Fo rme facial subtleties are quite a challange especially when your aiming to achieve accurate lip sync that conveys some sort of emotion, in effect playing down a lot of the mouth shapes and animating 'suggestively'.

Interacting with objects and other characters can also be quite time consuming as you can spend a lot of time animating 'technically' rather than thinking of perfromance and emotional issues.

But probebly the hardest thing for me is really understanding and then translating certain movements that you have in your head into the computer. Sometimes you know what you want and just have to stuggle through!

Soon2bAnimator
02-10-2004, 09:21 PM
Animation is easy and fun learing it is the tuffest part

GlennSueznin
02-10-2004, 09:58 PM
:thumbsup: YO!!

If we're talkin about 3D animation...everything...I just wish that 3D was as fun and easy to animate as 2D. I love drawing 2D animations and would take that 10 million times over 3D.

ahem...anyhoot...the hardest thing to animate for me...would probably have to be...remembering to move the whole body and head while someone moves...cause that gets annoyin sometimes...

Other than that I find animating very fun and easy...as the "wanabe" has said...hehe


:deal: Mwahahahaha...Evil

WesComan
02-11-2004, 02:28 PM
Assuming I have a good rig I think the toughest thing I find is realistic walks. Runs and cartoony style walks are much easier, but if you need a realistic walk everything (the timing, the poses, weight and momentum) has to be *exactly* bang on.

fbcota
02-13-2004, 06:12 AM
I think subtle movements of the face are hardest especially getting the brows to move realistically without to much twinning. Creating a subtle smile is also a challenge but it is mostly due to rigging and the need to adjust multple settings to create an expression that normally isn't planned in developement.

Does anyone know of any good facial studies in book or video form? Or a book about the psychology of the face (eyes looking one way when people lie, etc,...).

Matt

AlbertArt
02-15-2004, 09:15 PM
The setting keys aspect of 3d is sort of boring and takes the life out of animation, its nothing like drawing. The hardest thing about animating in 3d is remembering which body parts you've set keys to and then cleaning up the graphs, did I say hardest? I meant boringest. (is that a word):p

TANGOMAN
02-17-2004, 02:18 PM
The center of mass I think is the hardest; to put the right holds when the character is acting,also right facial animation in harmony with eyes is quite difficult,elbows give some problems,two characters interacting,and dancing characters is fun but tricky:bounce:

GlennSueznin
02-17-2004, 06:22 PM
Two characters Dancing...thats a definate hard one..expecially trying to get them just right for each pose and fluent movement..

skurge13
02-17-2004, 07:52 PM
Toughest thing in 3D? For me it's keeping the seemingly foolish hope alive that I'll be able to get a job.

I'm surprised about there are people here talking about how 2D is easier...if you have skill in 2D and enjoy it more, why are you doing 3D? With the little 2D I did, I enjoyed the fact that there were no damn technical hurdles to overcome, but I found it requires a degree of patience that I do not possess.....which is saying a lot considering I believe one of my greatest qualities is my patience. 3D takes a LOT of it, but 2D takes even more!

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