Would anyone like to collaborate?

[danb]

Well i would be glad to help. I need to get my name on some credits somewhere. I can do just about anything i think. Let me know.

[ThorFury]

Hey danb,

Check your private messages.

Gregg

[danb]

Pm right back at ya.:bounce:

[Anadin]

That sounds like fun, will/can do a few things, let me know

[osadkid]

Heya ,i can animate quite well including lip synching ,still perfecting the techniques though. Umm drop me a line (or a pm). L8ers

[substrauss]

Any VFX shots involving compositing, miscellaneous video operations, and sound editing, count me in :).

[ThorFury]

Hey Anadin and substrauss,

Drop me a PM or an e-mail at gwrenn@att.net if you're still interested. I tried e-mailing you guys but my computer was acting funny so it might not have gone through.

Thanks,

Gregg

[ThorFury]

Bump bump bump

Anyone else? Modelers? Animators? Dairy-product fetishists?

[jayreef]

might be able do some modelling for you, at a point where i can through some time at it, not much though, so point me to a character, and will give it a shot:thumbsup:

you can see my current stuff here

http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?s=&postid=1142782#post1142782

[osadkid]

Hey gregg. Daniel here. Did you get the 2 models i sent you? sorry for the big size, umm i also finished the monitors stack which i am proud to say is very low poly and i also finished the table ,so all thats left is the storage cabinets and the sink ,then i can get started on the animation. may i ask how you guys do the talking/lip-synching done cuz i watched one of the episodes (actually #13 so i could get into #14) and the lips werent even attached to the characters ,so did you just composite them in post production?

[elfling bard]

I can always pitch in for the music! It's seem like funny little anims.
It will be different than other work that I do.
Tell me if your interested!

You can look at the other work that I have done down below!:wavey:

[ThorFury]

Hey everybody, check your e-mails if you haven't already.

Daniel: the mouths are 3D too, they're just a separate part from the body so they're hardly attached at all. The eyebrows also float free. I like the look of the eybrows when they can jump off the face, but the mouth is another story. When I first made these guys I was brand new to 3D and couldn't figure out how to give them a mouth that wouldn't distort the rest of their body when they talked - one of many drawbacks of characters without heads. Before making episode 12 I toyed around with giving them a proper mouth with a tongue and teeth and everything, but it was just too big a change to make in the middle of a series.

Gregg

[jayreef]

started that bridge for you:thumbsup:

http://img21.photobucket.com/albums/v63/orions8/start-of-bridge.jpg

[ThorFury]

Hey jay,

This is the escape pod, right? Good start. Could you push those two chairs closer together and make the whole thing pretty cramped? If you remember the end of Alien, Ripley can barely move in that little ship. Of course, our version needs to fit four characters, not two but we want to keep it tight (be sure to put in four chairs).

If you'd like to use some of the pieces from the other sets - like monitors or control stations or what - let me know and I'll post 'em on the website. Also, you were looking for some shots of the exterior of the pod. I'll capture some from the movie tomorrow and send 'em to you.

As for texturing, if you've got some ideas go ahead. If you haven't already, take a look at http://www.cheesewars.com/ep14/stills.htm to see what some of the other sets look like. I've got a bunch of animated decals to use for digital displays and stuff so you can leave those blank for now if you want.

Looking forward to the rest of it,

Gregg

[ThorFury]

Hey fellas,

Now that we've got a core group going, let's try and use this page for most of our communication, just to make sure everyone's in the loop.

We should start thinking about animation and what we're going to use. As far as I know, everyone here has C4D and Mocca, right? Osadkid, I think you do, but let us know for sure (by the way, did you get the reply I sent about the refrigerators?). I'm not a big fan of Mocca but the Bonderland plugin is coming along pretty nicely. The problem is it's in beta now and aside from the natural worries about using a beta, nobody knows when the actual product will be released. When it is, the beta will expire and everybody will have to purchase the full version, which just shouldn't be a requirement for volunteering on a free project like Cheese Wars. Any thoughts on how we should do this? Better yet, anyone else have messiah?

For those of you working on interior sets, I've got a bunch of animated decals that we can stick on computer monitors and display screens, so you don't have to worry about that. As for other texturing, I've posted some stills at http://www.cheesewars.com/ep14/stills.htm of the sets that I've already made. Those were in a different program however, and the textures didn't transfer with the meshes. So if someone likes texturing and wants to do things like standard walls/floors/rusty pipes/control panels, please do. Otherwise, we'll just match the old ones in C4D.

Thanks,
Gregg

[jayreef]

can i get the animated decals of you, wanna try they, and give them a test spin, will be back later with the progression of you cabin/ pod, any sign of the alien original:thumbsup:

[jayreef]

done some more for you:thumbsup:

http://img21.photobucket.com/albums/v63/orions8/daytwo.jpg

[ThorFury]

Hey jay,

That's looking great. Just one thing - at the end John, Jack and Mel are sitting in the pod when the alien turns up in the turned around fourth seat. So can you make it two rows of two seats instead of 1 row of four? It'll be a little easier to hide him that way.

I'll post the animated decals on the website, but each one is a targa sequence so it'll be a bunch of large folders that I'll try and zip up. Do you have a fast connection?

Gregg

[jayreef]

yeah sure can do, but dont see the layout you describe on the visuals i downloaded from the link, there appears to be 3 chairs on a row split by an isle in the centre, with a 4th somewhere else maybe.... hhhmm will think about it

[jayreef]

moved the desks closer, split the ones on the left, made the left of the room darker by the farthest desk, and given it a swivel chair, getting closer:shrug:
http://img21.photobucket.com/albums/v63/orions8/sivel-chair.jpg

[ThorFury]

Hey jay,

Are you building the bridge you saw in the stills? That's from the big ship and is featured in the beginning of the episode and it's already done. What we need is the escape pod/shuttle at the end of the script. I'm sorry, that's my fault - I should have made it clearer.

But I like what you've done so far, the two should look alike if they're parts of the same ship. Keep what you've got just make it more scrunched together so it looks like a cramped shuttle. You can have two control stations like you do now up front, just put one seat in front of each, then have one more seat behind each of the two seats in front. Here's a blueprint. The airlock hatch doesn't have to be anything fancy, just a cube sticking out of the wall. That's where Jack throws his gun out at the end.

Sorry again for the confusion, I should have made it a lot clearer.

Gregg
http://www.cheesewars.com/ep14/shuttle_blueprint.jpg

[jayreef]

:applause: thats really amused me, finished the escape pod then.

view 1 from the back door, door open
http://img21.photobucket.com/albums/v63/orions8/ESC-POD-BACK-DOOR.jpg


view 2 from the back door, oppositer direction
http://img21.photobucket.com/albums/v63/orions8/ESC-POD-BACK-DOOR-HATCH.jpg


will mail you with download for C4D file, any sign of views of outside:bounce:

[jayreef]

view 3 from the front

http://img21.photobucket.com/albums/v63/orions8/ESCAPE-POD-FROM-WINDOW.jpg

will mail you with download for C4D file, any sign of views of outside:bounce:

[substrauss]

Nebula 1.0:
http://img28.photobucket.com/albums/v84/substrauss/Cheese%20Wars/Nebula1.jpg

http://img28.photobucket.com/albums/v84/substrauss/Cheese%20Wars/Nebula2.jpg

Edit: Close-up:

http://img28.photobucket.com/albums/v84/substrauss/Cheese%20Wars/Nebula3.jpg

[ThorFury]

Very nice stuff guys.

jayreef, the escape pod looks great, just two things:

1) Can you put a joystick on one of the consoles and an auto-theft Club on the joystick? If you don't know what one looks like, go here: http://www.theclub.com. Make the joystick and Club separate objects.
2) The seats and the door in the shuttle need to be wider because the cheeses have really big butts. The door doesn't have to be big enough for them to actually fit through, but make it a little bigger so it looks like they might actually fit through it. The seats do need to be big enough for them, so check the Jack model file you downloaded before to get the right proportions.

I captured a couple of shots of the outside of the escape shuttle, but these were the only ones in Aliens and yours doesn't have to be an exact match of this one. You can just use your imagination for the rear end, but I'm pretty sure there are two large cone shaped engines sticking out of the back. If you do need more references, I'll try to find my copy of Alien.

substrauss, that's a hell of a nebula, it's a shame to consign it to the background. Is that Max or Maya?

Gregg

http://www.cheesewars.com/ep14/escape_pod1.jpg
http://www.cheesewars.com/ep14/escape_pod2.jpg

[substrauss]

Max. :)

Any crits? Myself I thought it looks too smooth right now and needs more debris. Anything you can think of?

Thanks,
_S

[ThorFury]

Originally posted by substrauss
Max. :)

Any crits? Myself I thought it looks too smooth right now and needs more debris. Anything you can think of?

Thanks,
_S

Some debris would be cool. How about making it a little more stringy, as in make the gaseous tentacles extend a little further out and make the bright spot in the center smaller.

And if you haven't already, check your e-mail for the Sulaco model and animatic.

[jayreef]

got the mods almost done, will finish tonight, then let you know.

the pictures of the alien escape pod will do fine.

one question though, do you want the model fully functional so that the interior is within the outer, with doors and corridor linking the areas:cool:

:thumbsup:

[ThorFury]

one question though, do you want the model fully functional so that the interior is within the outer, with doors and corridor linking the areas

Nope, you can keep them separate. If you could put a hatch on the exterior that they could run into when they first enter the escape pod, that's all we need.

[jayreef]

the file at the email is the now finished escape pod interior, tilted window angle to match the outer angle, done all the mods required:thumbsup:

http://img21.photobucket.com/albums/v63/orions8/final.jpg

on with outer now

[jayreef]

made a start:thumbsup:

http://img21.photobucket.com/albums/v63/orions8/day1.jpg

[softdistortion]

You been busy...Nice work jayreef!:thumbsup:

[ThorFury]

Hey jayreef,

Great job on the interior, I can't believe how fast you're throwing all this stuff together. If you finish the exterior of the shuttle, try putting together a shuttle bay set. It's only in one shot, so it doesn't have to be anything fancy. Just a big room with a big door for the shuttles to exit through (make it able to open and close), a smaller door for the cheeses to come thru, a control station or two and some computer monitors and pipes in the walls. Make it big enough for two shuttles and three cheeses at least.

Thanks,

Gregg

[jayreef]

comin at yer later tonight, more pics and the model

http://img21.photobucket.com/albums/v63/orions8/NOST2.jpg:thumbsup:

[jayreef]

http://img21.photobucket.com/albums/v63/orions8/Picture-4.jpg:thumbsup:

[jayreef]

ok, its on my download site for you, will try to do the bay for you, starting back on shirow too, should get both in though, i know you will understand if pace slows a bit:thumbsup:

http://img21.photobucket.com/albums/v63/orions8/esc-pod.jpg

[ThorFury]

Beautiful job, jayreef. Just have one change and one question. Try making the engine nacelles either black or a dark grey. And any chance you could add a simple set of landing gear? It doesn't have to move, it's just for when the shuttle is sitting in the bay.

Don't worry about slowing down, we're already moving faster than I expected. Thanks again.

Gregg

[jayreef]

yo baby, told you i was slowing down lol....

done the mods on the esc pods in the hanger, done the hanger too:thumbsup:

will put it up on download site shortley

first shot, ariel view of hager

second shot, from leaving tube of hanger dorr open

third shot, from behind escape pods looking down the hanger

http://img21.photobucket.com/albums/v63/orions8/hanger1.jpg

http://img21.photobucket.com/albums/v63/orions8/hanger2.jpg

[jayreef]

http://img21.photobucket.com/albums/v63/orions8/hanger3.jpg

hope you like it all, the doors work too:cool:


you might have to open the shader on the escape pod file on its own and turn the engine black, but i am sure you can do that, :thumbsup:

[substrauss]

Just to clarify, who all are comprising the "core" group?

[jayreef]

dont ask me, i am just passing through with some modelling time on my hands:wavey:

[ThorFury]

Originally posted by substrauss
Just to clarify, who all are comprising the "core" group?

Right now it's you and jayreef, anadin who is modeling the alien body and osadkid who is modeling the kitchen set, although I haven't heard from him in a while. danb also will be helping out but he's on sabbatical for a couple of weeks. If you guys know of anyone else who's looking for something to do, send em over.

jayreef, your hangar model is good stuff. I might add a few details to the walls later, but that's just to give it some continuity with the sets that are already made. You want something else to do now or are you going to work on your other project?

Gregg

[jayreef]

you add what ever you wish my friend, thats the whole point of the overseer isnt it:thumbsup:

well, if you have any thing else to do, let me know, will fit in, glad you like the stuff:wavey:

[substrauss]

So what's been happening? I haven't received an e-mail from Gregg or seen any new posts in this thread. What's up?

[ThorFury]

Originally posted by substrauss
So what's been happening? I haven't received an e-mail from Gregg or seen any new posts in this thread. What's up?

Sorry fellas, didn't mean to let it get too quiet. Just had a busy weekend with lots of school stuff.

Does anyone like rigging? I've been putting together Jack in Bonderland and adding some facial controls. BL is nice, but it still takes a while to set things up. But then maybe I'm just spoiled from working in AM and messiah.

jayreef, we don't have any big stuff to model anymore, but there will undoubtedly be little props and stuff to add as we start animating.

For those who want to animate, we should be able to get started as soon as the characters are all set up, although substrauss is already working on the opening shot of the Sulaco in space.

Gregg

[elfling bard]

Do you got the script so I can go throught it to find musical ideas.
Youcan send it to my e-mail! And if you got musical cues that you want or style that you got in mind tell me!

Thanks

[ThorFury]

Hey jayreef,

Want another project? It's not exciting, but if you're looking for something to do...

The set files imported from AM are way too polygon heavy and will probably end up slowing down the animation and rendering. They are mostly just basic shapes so it would be cool to replace most of them with C4D-generated shapes that will speed things up. If you want, I'll send you the OBJ files and you can redo them, maybe even tweak some stuff if you want.

Gregg

[jayreef]

Sorry Gregg, mad busy on the Shirow Project again, have to count me out for a while, will shout when free again, all the best, and let me know if you finish wanna see it:bounce:

[substrauss]

bump :)

Anything happen in the meanwhile?

[ThorFury]

Originally posted by substrauss
bump :)

Anything happen in the meanwhile?

Not so much right now. I've got a test tomorrow, but after that I'll start pumping out animatics. Anadin and Osadkid are still working on their models. Any progress guys? It looks like we've got three new animators and another modeler who are interested in joining up too.

There was a problem with Scottish Mel's lines - they've been corrupted and I can't find the backup CD. I'm trying to get in touch with the guy who does his voice, but no luck yet. If I don't hear from him soon, we'll have to find a different voice.

How's the opening shot coming?

Gregg

[osadkid]

Sorry ,ive been super busy with school .but i dont have a test for about 2 weeks now ,so i can finally finish that kitchen. hey gregg ,it seems you have counted me out on the animatiing ,im still in for that. Anyways ,kitchen is all done. Umm do you want me to animate in C4D??
I have not tried that yet ,but i wil instal it and see what i can do, ill take a couple of tuts to see how the interface runs. And im guessing that animating is pretty much that same in all high end products ,so i should be fine, anyways ,how do you like the doors for the fridge and oven ,i also added every thing you said into the fridge and oven models. ,i have a finished model of the kitchen going soon. Just gotta do the sink and the cubbords. I made a small animation. 12 seconds long ,you can get it at... PLZ not to many ppl downlaod ,the bandwidth is only 20 mb a day!!!You can get all this and more at http://osadkid.bravepages.com/ ,this includes many other things i ahve uploaded to the internet for my folio. But dont download to much ,because then the bandwidth for the day will be used. If you get an error ,message saying no more bandwidth ,then just visit the next day plz!

Peace Out ,
Daniel Osadtsuk

[jayreef]

Still busy modelling on two other threads, but need anything urgently, let me know:thumbsup:

[ThorFury]

Originally posted by osadkid
Sorry ,ive been super busy with school .but i dont have a test for about 2 weeks now ,so i can finally finish that kitchen. hey gregg ,it seems you have counted me out on the animatiing ,im still in for that. Anyways ,kitchen is all done. Umm do you want me to animate in C4D??

Hey Daniel,

I know how it is with tests, we just had a big one today too. They really get in the way of what's truly important, huh? Like animating. I didn't mean to count you out of animating, but wasn't sure if you wanted to do it. I was originally planning on animating in C4D, but after trying to set up characters and animate over the last couple weeks, it looks like we're going back to Animation Master. If you want to animate in C4D, though, it shouldn't be too hard to combine them. And just so you and jayreef know, the C4D models transfer to AM pretty well so you're work won't go to waste.

The kitchen video looked pretty good, but it was hard to see what was going on with the sink. Is it on its side? I like the way you made the oven and fridge open, that was a cool touch. Keep up the good work.

jayreef - Sounds like you're a glutton for punishment. There are still some props to model, but nothing urgent. Come on back when you're not so busy and I'm sure we'll have something for you to do.

Gregg

[osadkid]

I guess i need to get animation master ,shouldnt be too hard. Mabye i will get the trial or student version? Thnx about the doors. The sink hasnt been modeled yet ,i dont know what u were looking at. How do the monitors look?? I think the way i stcked them is pretty neat. Ill probably try to finish this weekend.

[ThorFury]

Originally posted by osadkid
I guess i need to get animation master ,shouldnt be too hard. Mabye i will get the trial or student version? Thnx about the doors. The sink hasnt been modeled yet ,i dont know what u were looking at. How do the monitors look?? I think the way i stcked them is pretty neat. Ill probably try to finish this weekend.

Hey Daniel,

You don't have to get AM just for Cheese Wars, the last thing anyone on this project should be doing is spending money to be involved. We can give you and anyone else who wants to help certain scenes specifically for C4D. The kitchen scene or maybe the coridoor scenes since it would be cool to have lots of steam and atomspheric lighting there and AM's not as good as C4D in doing those things.

What I thought was the sink was actually the monitors, it was just hard to tell because of the compression. Can you post a jpg still, so we can get a closer look at them?

Thanks,

Gregg

[jayreef]

hey gregg, check out eldos dropship, you might want this some time:thumbsup:

follow his link button on his thread

http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=126092&perpage=15&pagenumber=3

[eldonaldo]

hiho.. haven´t read the thread.. only this last post. Before I can give my dropship to you, in case of you needing ist for your animation, i first have to ask my partner. there´s a 25 Minute Short im workin on with him and he´s the head of animation. so i have to aks him first.
If its okay for him, there won´t be any further problems..

here´s the ship:

Clay Render (http://www.living-bytes.com/hosting/eldo/final_still.jpg)

another render (http://www.living-bytes.com/hosting/eldo/bergmassiv_02web.jpg)

ANIMATION (http://www.living-bytes.com/hosting/eldo/Final.mov) (10,7 Mb 2:07 Minutes)

Wip-Thread (http://www.cgworld.de/thread.php?threadid=5883&sid=&threadview=0&hilight=&hilightuser=0&page=1)

regards
eldo

[ThorFury]

Hey eldonaldo,

Thanks for the peek at your ship, it's a beauty and that animation is incredible. Looks like you've got a hell of a movie going there. Like I said, it's a great ship, but at this point we don't really need a dropship. If we end up needing one, I found a model of the actual Aliens dropship which we'd use beacuse this Cheese Wars episode is an Aliens parody.

Thanks again and if you ever feel like joining the Cheese Wars crew, you'd be more than welcome.

Gregg

[substrauss]

Popping in for a second. I'm busy with school as well as work, but I'll spend some more time on TP and PC research (I've made some progress :)) Glad to hear more people have signed on. Lastly, Gregg, is there any sort of ETA we're bound to?

[ThorFury]

Originally posted by substrauss
Lastly, Gregg, is there any sort of ETA we're bound to?

Hey substrauss,

Well, I'd like to finish it before I die. Other than that, we're not under too much time pressure.

Here's a real quick shot just made to test the characters out and to produce something myself, since so far you guys have been the ones doing all the work.

Gregg

http://www.cheesewars.com/ep14/test1.jpg

[osadkid]

from that shadow im guessing you have already finished the aline model...... I plan to finish completely the kitchen this weekend ,im really gonna try to finish this ,because i really want to get the kitchen of my back. Man i never noticed how good you were with lighting and such. good job

Daniel Osadtsuk

[ThorFury]

Hey Daniel,

Actually that's the original Alien model I made a while back in AM and never got around to finishing. That's why he's just a shadow. Thanks for all your work on the kitchen, I'm looking forward to seeing it. Just out of curiosity, are you doing it in Max?

Gregg

[jayreef]

looking good Gregg, getting excited:bounce:

[ThorFury]

Since we're getting close to animating and we don't want to spoil the episode for everyone, we're moving to a Yahoo group

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cheesewars


Anyone who'd like to work on the episode is welcome to join.

Thanks,

Gregg

[jayreef]

will miss you, but keep in touch gregg:thumbsup:

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