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Matthew Jones
02-06-2004, 03:49 PM
This is the first time I have ever tried to just make somthing for nothing more than a render. I usually only do low poly stuff so I just wanted get bashed a bit on this. Its not really done because there is no enviromrnent around it.


http://www.matthewcjones.com/concept/Flower&Pot.jpg

I appriciate any thoughts or ideas on improvement.

Matt

doms
02-07-2004, 07:10 PM
?? how can anyone really comment on this? What is the brief or your objective (what message are you trying to convey). Do you feel you have tried to achieve it with enough thought or originality for the Focused Critique section?

Sorry to sound negative but i don't really get it.

iuri
02-07-2004, 08:38 PM
Itīs beatful, but you can put to critique your lowpoly too, if you work best in low itīs dont care beacuse is the low poly can impressive work, "Wow How this guy can make some caracter with only few faces..." but you want to critique hard keep put your threads in here. (I too have hard critiques about my head but who care, I try make more better)!

Try make more good and reply showing to us you have impruve your skills!

Matthew Jones
02-07-2004, 10:55 PM
Well Mostly I was trying to do something outside of what I usually do. Usually I make low poly meshes either enviroment or mechanical, Sometimes character.
There was no message or purpose I just wanted to make somthing that didn't look like it was ready to kill you or run you over or do anything other than please your eye. I was trying to make it look real as I could imagine it looking. No concept art or sketch's, no planning or attempts to plan I just wanted to sit down and make it. Oh I wanted to use only MAX generated materials,but I did end up making a few textures.

I am not a traditionally trained artist but I was looking for some critisism (art school critique) and was hoping for the worst.

Matt

Pyke
02-08-2004, 07:33 AM
I think that the main crit is that, while it is a decent model of a flower in a pot, unfortunately thats all it is. A flower in a pot. For a prefab, its not that bad at all, but as a scene itself, it really needs some slap and tickel.

1-Camera angel. Your current angle may show the flower off well, but it does nothing for the image. Change it 2 eaither a more realistic angle, or 2 something extreamly dramatic. Like an ants POV, looking up at this towering flower.

2-Enviroment (or lack of it). Your image lacks the 'oomf' it needs.
You can get this by creating an environment 2 put your flower in. Perhaps have the pot brocken on the floor, the clay shattered all over, and the flower growing roots in2 cracks of the ground...
Perhaps its just a normal pot inside a living room....Perhaps its on a windowsill with a cyberpunk style london background. That would give the image a 'message' of organic life in an inorganic world.

3-Modeling. As i stated, the model is decent-but unfortunately, thats all it is. Add some funky looking thorns on2 the stem, put on little hairs, etc etc etc.
The pot is fine, but you may want 2 make it a little bit more exciting. Add in a wrought iron stand for it, or make it look like its hooked up 2 some sort of life monitoring system with wires and such.
Perhaps go 4 something realistic...find some images of pots, and copy them. If you look around the net, you are going 2 find osme fantastic looking pots (art deco pots are extreamly effective due 2 there simplicity or design).

4-Texturing-Nice...but boring. A real stem would never be that green. A real leaf would more than likely have little bits browning where insects have nipped away at them. The stem is 2 green...2 perfect. The petals aswell, unless your going for a surreal image, are just way 2 perfect. There is nothing 'dramatic' about them. Maybe the image focuses on the petals falling off, stripping away the flowers beauty, but leaving it with a kind of peacefull look 2 it.

Go and visit the EVOCATIVE board 4 examples of some truely excellent emotional work.

You have proven that you can model, now prove you can texture well, and put all of your elements 2gether in a scene.

Good luck! I will stay updated 2 this thread...

-Chris-

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