where to get high end compositing training?

[eevilmouse]

Art institute of (enter city name here)0 does have Visual effects Programs.. They just started it. though Any program should allow you to take the VE classes. I am graduateing from the colorado one, but they are in many major citys

[JasonA]

I checked out the AI in Portland, but honestly I was a bit disappointed with the lack of extensive classes regarding compositing and they didn't appear to be using highend software (ie no nuke,shake,flint,flame,inferno). How many classes covered compositing in your program and what software and OS were you working primarily with?

[beaker]

I wouldn't bother with classes other than to learn the basics. You going to learn the most by getting an internship at a post house or getting a job as a roto artists. You might as well because no one is going to hire you as a FFI operator if you just took a class on it. Your still going to have to do time in the backroom using Combustion doing roto/paint work. Might as well learn it on the job. It's alot cheaper too (FFI classes cost around 2-3k).

[JasonA]

I susepcted it would probably be something like that. Is combustion the usually the starting point? I guess it would make sense that it would have some similairities since CFFI are all discreet products.

[Mooncalf]

Hey Jason,

Have you checked out Oregon3D? (www.oregon3d.com) They have some Combustion classes, and sometimes some Flame classes, too, I believe. They don't offer a degree program, but they have a lot to offer as far as education. I took their Maya camp last summer and got a tremendous amount out of it.

(next door they were running the Film Camp, which included a lot of compositing work)


- M

[JasonA]

Hey thanks for the link Mooncalf, I'll check them out. I hope they aren't brutally expensive :) definitely worth a look though.

[Paul Moran]

i have recently undertaken a Maya course...but if there was a VFX / Compositing course...i would have been all over that ...seems comping is still a bit of a black art ;) ... 3d is such a *glory* fad ...hopefully there will be full blown comping courses out there ...but not for us..

Beaker was spot on...best bet is to sit in as many dark rooms in as many post houses 'roto monkeying' as much as possible and do it the hard way

and yes, combustion is logically a natural progression towards FFI

But dont forget the workhorses: Shake, Fusion & soon, NUKE :)

Cheers mate ...ill go back to my room now [dims lights :p]

[D3-2go]

i am going out to Oregon3D for their "MaxBustion" course (an integration of 3D Studio and Combustion) on Feb 23 - 27. i will report on the structure of their classes.

[JasonA]

cool, I look forward to hearing what you think about it
:wip:

[boomji]

hi jason,
if you already were a compositor then learning FFI would be justified.The one thing you are going to NEED if you ever plan to use these products is "SPEED".i'm not dissing creativity but speed takes priority.Why would you want to pay when you can learn all the secrets on the job.

buy a few books bye steve hull fish,ron brinkman,steve wright,doug kelley and youre set...most things are on webboards these days.

good luck.

b

[D3-2go]

jason,

i am new at the CG compositing aspects. Oregon 3D provided a great training for extensive technical knowledge. The course i attented, "Maxbustion", is a great way to know how to jump back and forth between combustion and 3D Studio Max. if you are new at the CG Compositing, their program is pretty good. However, you may think twice if you are paying out of your own money.

Like most people say, i agree that most people learn more high end on the job. Also, sometimes company will pay for your training or SIGGRAPH.

i hope this helps.

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