What Video Card? I Need help.

[Northchild]

I have a similar system, pretty much the same specs. The GF5900FX works fine for me with 3ds max. I'm a student, so clients aren't depending on me, and 3ds is fast and stable on my Intel 3.0 with 2GB and the Nvidia.

[Wardile]

I went for the 9800xt and i have no hassles if i run opengl.

The direct3d is fixed with the new drivers for the ati.

Besides the ati is faster in games aswell.


PS< i despise nvidia

[Genko3D]

games are waste of time -- get serious, get a quadro

[Wardile]

A quadro in my currency will cost me 18 grand.

I get 2 grand a month.

Where is the justice or the chance of getting a quadro fx.

NVIDIA< do us a favor stop branding yer shit so the prices can drop 80 percent.

[Zakkorn]

Quadro cards are not really big difference.
The 3000FX give 30-50% more speed than the a 5950 and it cost 4 times more.
So is it really worth it?

If you plan to use Max with OpenGL then buy a nVidia card because they are faster than Ati's in this mode (in Max).

If I was in your position I would go with the Asus 9980.
ASUS produses the best quality nVidia cards plus is the fastest (for the moment) GPU from nVidia (in case you use OpenGL in MAX). And is much cheaper than a quadro.:thumbsup:

[Wardile]

I beg to differ, my ati is faster than nvidia, believe it or not.

I mean with my 9800 i get 43 fps on this scene asnd with my tnt i get 10 fps. HEHE, just messin about, ati upgraded drivers and its starting to look promising.

ATI ATI ATI ATI ATI

[thomaspecht]

if you're really into gaming, then a geforce consumer card probably works best for you. ati radeons might be somewhat faster but nvidias open-gl drivers are clearly superior. an you don't want to run max in direct-3d. not stable enough for real work and you surely don't want to sacrifice stability over speed?

as far as i know, softquadro is not available for fx boards, only out there for geforce boards up to gf 4.

[Wardile]

What is soft qaudro ?

And before you choose, go to ati's site, and you will notice they updated their drivers just for max.

Im getting sick of this shait that you guys had trouble with ati and now u keep dissing em.

You havent used new ati's or even tried new drivers.

Oh no, i bought an ati in 1980 and it gave me shait,so ati sucks.

Lets try nvidia, ohh nvidia is so fast, so stable blah blah.

This is known as stereo typing. Anycase i like nvidia and ati.

But i prefer ati over nvidia for one reason alone, prices and performance.

The radeon 9800 xt kicks all nvidia cards.

Even in max and maya. And gues what, ati is much cheaper aswell. Their drivers fully support opengl, although a few months back their drivers werent up to standerd.

But things change and the drivers is all good. As for nvidia yes their drivers is alot better, but you dont realy notice it.

If you look at bench mark on tom's site and if u bench it yerslef you will notice an increasingly high gap between ati and nvidia.

If you wanna play games and run 3dsmax and maya with full scene anti-aliasing with antistopheric filtering, i suggest ATI.

Ill only buy nvidia when i got enough money for 3 quadro fx 3000 cards. Seeing they can be linked and frame locked for a full integrated and interactive 3dsmax experience.

My previous post was out of pure madness, ive calmed myself now.

Go to tomshardware.com and see for yerself.

Im a 3-d artist, and that doesnt mean movies, i make game elements aswell, so games cannot be viewed as a waist of time.

I love games, so i prefer ati.

POint

[Zakkorn]

I don't like flamimg so don't take this as the beginning of a flame war.;)

I have a friend that has an Athlon 2400+ with an ATi 9700 Pro.
My system has an Athlon 1800+ with nVidia 4600.

We benchmark several times our Max viewports in both OpenGL and Direct3D.
His system kicks my system's @ss in Direct3D, but in OpenGL the difference is 1-2%. (Dont' forget that my card is older generation than his and that he has a faster cpu).:rolleyes:

What I want to say is that in most applications ATi is a winner in front of nvidia. But in Max's OpenGL viewports for some reason (probably because of drivers) nVidia handles better the meshes.

And at the end nobody spoke of anti aliasing and anisotropic, both are waste of performance in Max for no reason.

Even me I am in a big dillema for my next card, because I am a gamer as well.

ATi is better in games, nVidia is better in Max's OpenGL, for now, believe or not.:thumbsup:

[umungus]

get a quadro4 980 XGL. it's so powerfull for 500$

[Wardile]

OKay okay okay, i admit, my ati is a bit dodgy in opengl when looking at complex meshes.

FINE you broke me, happy

[Genko3D]

Making games is not a waste of time. Playing games for more than 1 hour a day *is* a waste of time.

FireGLs have better performance/price ratio.

Btw generally Quadros are faster than FireGLs in OpenGL mode. When using MAXtreme they are *times* faster!

No flame - just facts.

[thomaspecht]

i don't give much about the whole ati vs nvidia. in general, ati cards have more problems than nvidia ones (driver-wise). that's true for many 3d apps, including maya and the like who rely only on open-gl.
max is a different case though, since you have the option of using it with direct 3d.

my point is: if you want to run a several thousand dollar-application, i assume that you want it to perform best for you. why then would you want to install a card with known driver problems? just to play games with a few more frames per second? oh my...

so, if you want to do both - 3d AND playing games why not choose something that's usable for both purposes?
who cares about a bit more speed or 20 bucks less in price if the thing you buy causes less problems?

and of course, firegl rocks but to my knowledge these cards are not suited at all for gaming while nvidia ones are.

btw. softquadro is a hack to let you use quadro-drivers with consumer boards like geforce 3 or 4.

[Zakkorn]

Originally posted by Genko3D
Making games is not a waste of time. Playing games for more than 1 hour a day *is* a waste of time.


Exactly:thumbsup:

PS. I know that in my previous post I said something about a dillema because I am a gamer as well. But who gives a "missing vertex" about that. :cool:

[Wardile]

Missing vetrexes is my worst fear, that and edges gone invisisble and i forget about em...

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