Rigging System

[VagabondDead]

Originally posted by Stray
the initial setup is really only good for gesturing the hands. As for clamping the hands global orientation I am having stability problemns (C4D's expressions aren't that great, i get a real bad wobble)

I am wondering if it would be in bad form to release a system that doesn't have a decent global orientation system for a hand?

Professionally, I can't answer your question, but I'll answer from the view of a possible customer. If you're planning on implementing a decent global orientation system, then I would say it's ok to release your system with the promise of a free upgrade when certain (be specific) features are implemented or fixed.

Otherwise, I would just recommend being very clear about what your system does offer. You don't have to point out all the flaws in your product (you'd be blacklisted from PR jobs for life ;) ), but if someone purchases your system and doesn't get the features they expected, they probably won't purchase anything from you again, and they will probably tell their friends or post on a board about it.

On the flipside, if you wait until you have a great product (or update customers' versions for free when you finish), people will be asking and waiting for what you have to offer next. But those are just basic marketing principles.

Cheers,
Josh

Take what I say with a grain of salt. I've never purchased a plug-in, system or 3d object, and don't plan on doing so any time soon. However, I watched your videos and found them interesting and thought I'd share my thoughts.

[Stray]

First off,

Thanks for the response. I thought for a minute that no one was interested in what is is that I am offering.

As far as the system is concerned it has all the basic controls for CA.

As far as fixes and customizations I will provide a forum and newer upgrade module free for registered users.

I am not as much out to make a buck. As I am out to build a community that will provide a forum for ideas and inputs so that all involved will benefit.

I will be writing newer tutorials and also encouraging discussions on the subject.

I am hoping to launch very soon. One of my beta testers who was originaly going to write my tutorials pulled out at a very key time so my initial launch has been stalled.

Thanks again for the interest. watch the portal pver the next few days for any further developments.

Ciao
-Stray

[Janho]

Hi Stray,

I'm merely answering in order to make sure that your work is being appreciated. At least the videos looked quite promising and are apt to arouse the curiousity of any C4D user who has been having a hard time using Maxon's built in animation features.

The Mocca module has been driving me nearly insane with its complexity and ist unpredictable behaviour which is probably due to my lack of experience.

Still there are a lot of people, I presume, who don't want to dive into Xpresso programming or fiddle around with uncountable numbers of goals in order to make a simple walk cycle - not talking about more complex movements.

Besides stability the ease of use will certainly be the main point when making a decision to purchase a product as such. Besides, an autosetup feature would certainly be a winner (for LW and Maya a few of those rigs and/ or scripts are available as you probably know.) Still, the rigs might do without it as well.

I'm not quite sure what the problem with the "global orientation" is all about and what consequences it might inflict.

However, given that the rigs are relatively stable and easy to apply I would buy them instantly and probably a lot of others would do the same.


Kind regards

Janho

[Stray]

Hey Janho,
Yeah the system is finished and all at the moment. We just have some minor issues with paypal that we need to iron out.

As for he global/local switching issue. The rig can be customized very easily to do either function.

I am going to brief people on CA . So that before they construct their rig they should assess what types of motions does it need to accomplish. The basic rig will give the user basic controls for standard movements.

I will also be addressing FK/IK switching/blending in another module that I hope to release soon to registered user so f Stray CAT.

Thanks for showing interest

Cheers
-Danny

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