Character: Blazing

[nexflo]

looks good (both of em)! top one looks a bit more realistic, but could be sharper at points. her hair / top head looks too cut off to me in both pieces...

keep it up!

[picksel]

I prefere the second , it's more clear and dynamic! good work on painter!

[ACFred]

Nice job on both. I really like your orignal piece (the bottom one). The lighting on the face is nicer, the lighting is more appropriate for a nighttime scene, as is the skin-tone.

I also like her jaw-line more. The top image, her jaw juts out a bit too much. The bottom image jawline is more realistic to me.

I also like her sleeves on the bottom image. It helps to give the image more movement and dynamism.

I like the sharper contrast on the cloth wrinkles that you made for the top image, although I think a muted version of that contrast would fit better with your image.

The enhancement of the breasts in the top image isn't necessary either, although I think a slightly darker outline would keep that area from looking as muddled as it does in the bottom pic.

The 3rd and 4th knuckles of her right hand seem a bit weird because the dark outline near the top makes it seem as if they're detached. If you remove that dark outline and blend those knuckles into the meat of the hand, I think it'd work better (bottom pic).

I think a mild glow or sharper highlighting would work well on the bottom pic. Not quite as bright as the one you made in the top pic, but just some sense of reflection and light, with colors in the same vein as those reflecting off the face of the bottom character.

Overall, I think your initial instincts were correct. At least, I get a better feeling from your original work.

Keep up the great efforts. I enjoy your work.

Alec

[jeroentje]

Very nice :)

I prefer the one on top. She looks a bit scared, an expression that adds something to the pose IMO.

[khaleghi]

good work.I like the colors.but the women are ugly in both.:hmm:

[Troy]

I prefer the second one down...

The top one looks as if her cheeks/mouth are really bloated, I don't really understand the expression, plus the head looks very plasticy and out of place in the top image.

[Garma]

it's awesome, not what I expected when I saw the plug. The plugging-picture shows the face, the only weak part of the image imho :)

[jtk77]

Wow you're colors on the first one truely pop off the screen!
I hate to say it, but I find it a shame its a digital painting.
The texture of paint in those bold tones on a canvus around 6 feet would be a great peice:)
But all in all I'd get that printed on canvus at a nice printer at around 600 DPI as soon as you can afford it. The color and dynamics alone are worth it. Can't say anything else here. Truly love it, if a highres is availble let me know, I'd print it up myself and hang it.
The top one is king. Her face matches the ethnicity of what I would expect. I don't understand why all the women created by the folks that generaly do digital art all look like the same kind of statue'esk modelish women.
Her body is obviously toned and curvy, so why would her face be angular and defined? Her face would have a round soft tone to it. She matches. She has an mid-estern or mid-asia(india area not asian/oreintal) look about her as well with her nose and eyes.
Its great , matches her weopon choice and her clothing style.

[OrcOYoyo]

Great picture :buttrock:
id prefere the 1st one with the head of the 2nd :)

[Ben Sones]

I like the bottom one best. The face looks better in that one--more expressive, and I like the shading on the top half of the face, and the exaggerated angularity of the hair gives the image a dynamic feel. In the top one, the chin seems too far forward, and the eyes have a strange expression (they seem to be looking up rather than forward, which breaks the motion of the pose). I also think it works better compositionally with the lighter, blue clothing. That keeps the focal point of the image on her face, which contrasts witht he rest of the image. In the top image, you use the same dark, warm tones on her arm bands and shoulder pad, and that makes the composition feel less focused. Also, there's an uncomfortable tangency in the way the bottom edge of the sword seems to rest on the shoulder pad.

So my vote goes to the bottom image, definitely. Great work!

[arvid]

The second one, on most accounts! Especially the face, and that you can see her eyebrows, I'm no big fan of the white band on her forehead ;) Even the background is better in pic # 2 IMO :)

[peanut]

Perso ... i like the second a whole lot more

[CAAB]

the first is rendered better.

the second has better colours, and while some may say the difference is minimal, in my opinion it makes a huge difference for the overall composition.

[LeeC]

I agree totally with ACFred, your image seems to be about movement and dynamism and for that your initial idea conveys this far better. By defining areas you begin to alter the image to the point where it becomes a pose rather than an action shot frozen in time.

The knuckles on the hand holding the sword look a little odd, gives the impression that the little finger and the one next to it are folding upwards, ACFred's suggestion would help here.

I also get the feeling that maybe the sword blade may benefit from a more pronounced *glint* for want of a better word. It seems to want a slightly higher contrast to give it a more metallic look, more like the top image in effect.

I also prefer the sleeves on the lower image for the same reasons as other people have noted, they add to the flow and movement better.

I think what this has shown is that adding what other people may consider is missing from your image can sometimes take away more than they add. Only you know the inspiration for the image and the vision behind it, we can only add our thoughts on our perceptions of what "you" were trying to achieve. More often than not, the motivation is tailoring the image to "our" tastes. Trust your instincts, they appear to be well founded... take on board our comments but don't presume that what we suggest is better.

Nice work, look forward to seeing more. :thumbsup:

[elnady]

Nice work:wavey:

[Windex]

just my stupid opinions

face original
hair needs MORE movement
sword 2nd attempt (top pic)
boob shape (original)
boob size (2nd attempt, top image)
left arm is unclear in both images, maybe it's croped thats y
BG original
black bg behind the arm might be what's keeping it from standing out
more contrast plz


i know nothing about art, plz don't hate me
nice image reminds me of the prince of persia game i'm currently playing where the "LOVE interest" is nothing but a pet in the game,pulling levers etc for u. heh...

[nineinchneil]

i like the second one better. the face contours are more angular, and that fits the dynamic composition you've created. great job.

[JuanAntonio]

Nice work! My two cents: I like the top one a lot more, mainly because of the face. Her expression is more... enigmatic in that one. Not so redable, if you see what I mean. Makes for a more interesting image, not so clear cut. In my humble opinion.

[pandras]

great work. love the original, much cleaner (are you sure, you haven't mixed up? hehe).

[cris castro]

yeah cool, i pretty love coulours
cheers

[Ewan Lee]

Second one WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY better!

You focus on the face and the blade and the rest supports it, on my monitor the colors seems more vibrant also. Make a poster! I'll buy!

:thumbsup:

[Dirit]

Bottom better

[johnj_1978]

I prefer the bottom image (the original). The face has alot more expression to it, especially since you can see her eyebrows. Plus she looks more feminine. and the overall image is clearer.

[Bliz]

My preference wouldbe face and hair from the original [bottom one] combined with the more detailed apparel and weaponary of the newer [second one]

Good stuff :beer:

[misjah]

definitely image no. 2

Some elements of Image no 1 looks better, but I'd go for the second one.. no doubt

[frogchild]

I'm pretty much echoing everyone else. I prefer the second but like the lighting on the head of the first. The head band isn't selling me. Maybe the I'd prefer the first if it didn't have the headband?

[Ultragames]

The face of the bottom, the rest of the top.

[jtk77]

I don't get why everyone likes the first face on that body more.
It doesn't seem to match, its way to angular and defined for a body like that I think.
Its probably more appealing visualy, as far as attractive women go, but it just doesn't match with a body like that to me.
Why do all the femals have to be these certin types in digital art? You never see any ethnic traits other than highly defined anglo-american'esk . Even in Anime it goes that way, is it becouse we just want fantasy women to be sexual fantasys as well? Following the definition of what a women looks like in popular culture? Wich we all know to be horribly scewed towards a singular type.
I just like the secoud so much more becouse it has a slight eastern acent in the nose , jaw amd cheeks, that seems to go with the choice of weapon , clothes
more so than the first, the first seems European mixed maybe a little hispanic and it just seems to not go ...
You won't hire victoria sec. model Geisel to work at the "Little India" amusment park would you? Naw, it all should match, thats why I have such a problem with some digital art that uses highly defined or at lest inspired from a specific culture clothing or weaponry with these Anglo-american model-type looking people. Its just werid , I never got it. And when someone acualy attempts to add what appears to be cultural , real perhaps, acents to an art piece they generaly get comments that its wrong, ugly or what-not.
I don't know , anyway, I said in it all in my orignal comments I'll be quiet and stop ranting... haha
I don't even know if that was his direction in how he changed the first face or not, but it seems that way, and if so bravo to him for being real and bold to do it.
Well, whatever the intent was, I like it man. Shouldn;t mess with it further in my humble opinion.
Good work, if someone picks it up to print and sell, let me know.
:P

[Matt]

The first attempt is easily ten times better than the second.

[Yorgo12345]

The second one looks illustrative and congruent, I like it better.

[linus3d]

The blade in the first one looks much better. That's the only thing that really sticks out for me in importance, so, I prefer the first one.

[kinglamoni22]

I have to go with the second image.

dont lissen to others. i think you had it right the first time.

[Ultragames]

Your first attempt is much better. Although i liek the extra detail on the arm of the second attempt.

[SkullboX]

As most of the people seem to think, I also like the first attempt better than the second. Especially the expression of her eyes and mouth stand out. And while the second version has some parts which are rendered better, it doesn't have a very consistent feeling to it, unlike the first version.

What I really like about this pic is the amount of action you managed to put into a still, it's excellent at that. The only thing that might probably would have worked better, would be a twist of the blade, it should be parallel to the hand, not the fingers. If you'd hold a sword, you wouldn't hold it the way she does either. :)

[Irratio]

For better understanding: the terms first and second face/picture/... in the following two posts by me mean: first attempt (lower image); second attempt (upper image). (Thx to rebo)

The second face looks more humanly to me. Perhaps in the context of a story, of an action it would be better. She looks fearful to me. She looks more occidental.

The first face fits better into the stream of the picture, it fits better to the energy of the lines, perhaps because the face lines look more definit and aggressive to me (I like the "inner light effect" visible on the face) which gives the picture a focus which doesn't need any further explantation or other pictures. She looks more oriental.
The first picture would be better for an opening picture or something like that.
I like the edging style of the hair in the lower picture. It looks familiar to the Disney's Aladdin style :)...


What I dislike on both picures, but particularly in the first one (the hand above is much better, the darker colors attached, too) is that the blade hand seems rather too big to be connected to her body instead of belonging to someone else. Perhaps the hand/ the fingers should be a bit /smaller/smoother/feminine, (more like the other hand). Yet it reminds me more of a big claw which doesn't fit to the women's face and elegance.

[Irratio]

CoreyArtE, honestly...
I just went a few meters back and looked at both pictures and now I like your first attempt of the face is much better than the second one. The clear lines and the colors are a must.

And for the left arm with that brown ribbon... I'd find the veil idea of the first one better but I see that it would be too much. How about a translucent veil... or a higher position ot the arm?

[rebo]

I think people are getting confused between 1st as in top one and 1st as in 1st attempt.

I like the bottom one overall (1st attempt).

[Chewey]

I find the upper image quite unnattractive due to the odd facial features, mouth nose & chin,. The lower one doesn't have as much of a problem.

[NLNL]

I like the upper one, but actually both are wonderful work

[Erikoinen]

I really don't get what was so good about this for it to make it's way to the front page.

It's a shame.. About a half year ago there was only reeeally good stuff on the front page, but nowadays these admins lets almost everything not-so-noob -stuff on the front page. :-(

Erikoinen - Personally, with a comment like that I'd love to see what you could do that's worthy. Send me a PM with a link to any of your work if you feel it's better or more deserving of a front page plug. You don't have to like all of the plugs but you do have to show some respect for the other artists who post on CGTalk. - Kirt: 2D Mod

[Krypton]

I like the bottom one a lot more than the top. The head on the top one just isn't working for me. I also like how the bottom one seems more stylized than the top one.

[Is-boset]

nice work i like the darker one, it's a good "stroke" style

[mo wuhen]

i like both
the oringinal one is clean
but the second one offer more detail and do much better in rendering, like the blade, the cloth, and the face, making it more ¡_¡_realistic¡_¡_don't know how tosay:p
i would prefer the second one, but both are good work:)

[Bliz]

This will solve it,

take both images into photoshop,
flip one horizontally,
attatch both images together so they form one image of two women charging each other,
re-title new image "When sisters fight each other"

Job's a good'un, everybody can go home.

:p

[Solace9]

The bottom one has a better face, but the top one has a better arm sleive and such. Nice though.

-Solace9:Micah

[phoenix]

very impressive

[CarlCampbell]

It really depends alot on the intention you want to give the character but I personally like the second because of her frown. IMHO there is more emotion in her face but her face is coloured better (more realistically) in the top one, although the flatness of the lower one works too.

Very nice work indeed!

Carl :beer:

[ASW]

I really like the facial expression in the 2nd illustratoin, I would take the arm from number one and use it in conjunction with number two. Overall great work.

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