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PixelVampire
12-29-2003, 02:49 AM
I have a laptop with WXP and a desktop with W2k.
I have a crossover cable and there are network cards in both machines.
What next?
I had downloaded a step by step pdf on how to proceed but due to recent harddrive failure I have lost this PDF. I have been googling for some step by step instructions but no luck so far...
do you have any links on how to proceed?

singularity2006
12-29-2003, 03:34 AM
plug the two computers together with the cross over and then manually assign the IP on both systems. Give them something such as 192.168.0.1 and then 192.168.0.2. Just make sure the first three sets of numbers are the same. Then set both systems to be on the same work group. And finally, create your network shares and you should be transferring files back and forth just fine.

Tony Richardson
12-29-2003, 08:29 AM
singularity2006

Will this type of lan work with max for rendering if I load max and other plugins onto the second computer as well? I render with vray and want to take advantange of DR for single images.

Would you recommend a second hardrive on the main computer for storing shared files? Main computer is WINXP SP1a and the second computer has WIN2000 SP4.

I'm extremely new to networking so forgive the basic question.

Tony

singularity2006
12-29-2003, 08:40 AM
sure it'll work. The only drawback is that in this case, u'll only have 2 systems to do rendering instead of doing a small farm through regular networking through a hub. I don't do any rendering so I don't know what kind of bandwidth is required but just for kicks, why not upgrade to Gigabit ethernet on both systems and run some CAT6 cable through. U'll have some mad large pipe line to do your rendering or file transfer.

As for having a separate hard drive, I would recommend that even if you weren't networking. Having a dedicated drive to do that means less wear on the original drive and usually means at least some good marginal performance gains in file access. SATA those drives if you can afford to or get a ATA133 drive.

Have fun! :beer:

imashination
12-29-2003, 10:03 AM
Well for starters one of them is a laptop...

PixelVampire
12-29-2003, 02:04 PM
OK. I have set up a workgroup called "DESIGN". The laptop is callled "PRECISION" the desktop "AMD". On both computers when I go to "My network place and then "view workgroup compters" I see two folders "AMD" and "Precision" under "DESIGNN" workgroup.
Now if I am on the laptop (precision) and if I click on the "amd" folder > i get the window "connect to AMD" and it asks fro username and password!!! I never set up any password for the network so i don't know what username and password I need to give. It does not take any password. What am i supposed to do. I have the same problem when I click on "precision" from the amd desktop!!!!
I am STuCK!!!!!

I pinged the computers and they both see each other.
How do i solve this problem???

singularity2006
12-29-2003, 06:52 PM
the username and password for each computer is simply the default administrator password. For Windows 2K, it would be Administrator, and then the password, whatever it is. For XP, it would be the first user profile created, and then the password. Kind of strange why XP left the username "Administrator" reserved, yet u can never really use it. Gotta modify the registry a bit for that.

PixelVampire
12-29-2003, 08:46 PM
I have been trying to use the password like you suggested but no luck from both PC.
From the Precision laptop I get the error-

"\\Amd is not accessible. You might not have permission to use this network resource. Contact the administrator of this server to find out if you have access permissions.
The network name cannot be found"
trator
From the AMD I get the Incorrect password!!!!

On both machines I have only one user account ie. the administrator account. On XP like you said it is not called administrator. It's the 1st user account and it says "computer administrator" under it.

I am typing the correct password. What am I doing wrong???
Is it possible I have to enable something else??

singularity2006
12-29-2003, 10:34 PM
I can't think of anything that u might be doing wrong. It should just be the username Administrator and the password for it. Are both systems using NTFS as the default file system? NTFS and FAT32 shares generally don't behave normally and are difficult if not impossible to get working. Check the passwords again, reset them if u have to. See what happens.

Btw, what are the IP numbers for the two systems @ the moment (they should be static/manually assigned to make networking the easiest)? And are you 100% sure ur using a cross over cable?

PixelVampire
12-29-2003, 11:01 PM
Yes both are NTFS. The IP numbers are - 192.168.1.40 and 192.168.1.50.
It's definetely a crossover cable. Asked the shopkeeper plus it says so on the packaging.

I think they do see each other. I mean it pings sucessfully....hmmmm

allseeingi
12-30-2003, 01:07 AM
This may sound silly but I haven't heard you mention that you've created a shared folder on either machine. I'm sure you've done this but in case you haven't, create a new folder in the root of your c: drive called "Public". Right-click on it and click on 'Sharing and Security' (I think this is just 'Sharing' in Win2K).

- In Windows XP tick 'Share this folder on the network' and 'Allow network users to change my files'

- In Windows 2000, see "here (http://www.oakland.edu/uts/helpdesk/docs/SharingFilesWin2000.pdf).

Then open Windows Explorer, click on 'Tools' at the top, click 'Map Network Drive'. Type for example \\AMD\public and if it prompts you for a username and password use the administrator details.

If tyou have already done that, given that your IP settings sound like they are working fine this must simply be down to authentication. Try creating brand new local accounts on both machines and put them in the administrator group. For simplicity's sake I would use the same username and password on both machines.

Also, I think this is just for domains and not workgroups, but try entering the username in the format WORKGROUP\username .


WARNING - If you are going to have modifiable shared folders on your machines while you're connected to the internet make sure you are behind a firewall!!!

- allseeingi

PixelVampire
12-30-2003, 02:21 AM
allseeingi - Thanks for the post. You are right I did not have a shared folder.
I have setup a shared folder now(with the hand icon) in WXP.
In W2k I can't because when I right click the folder and choose the properties. I have only general and security tab. There is no "SHARING" tab like there should be :-(
What does that mean? Where has my "sharing" tab gone? How do I bring it back?
P.S- The previous problem with authentication still exists. I changed everything new workgroup,password...did what you suggested but no luck.

EDIT- 50% SUCCESS. I can tranfer files from laptop to the desktop. I guess if I create the shared folder in W2k then I would be able to do it in the other direction as well

PixelVampire
12-30-2003, 02:39 AM
I can transfer both ways now :-)
I would still like to setup a shared folder in W2000.

allseeingi
12-30-2003, 01:05 PM
Cool. It sounds like the reason you can't see a sharing tab in Windows 2000 is because you dont have the Microsoft File and Printer Sharing service installed. Take a look at this (http://helpdesk.uvic.ca/hownote/2000/ht2000027.html) site for info on how to install it and go from there.

- allseeingi

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