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Pi3141
12-09-2003, 12:15 AM
Barely started this yesteday, I'll do a little more work on him tonight :)

http://pisong.20m.com/Froggywires.jpg


I don't normally post models this early on, but with all my recent posts showing early wires and stuff the feedback has been great, hope you don't mind

Plus when you juggle many models at a time its cool to update al of them as you go, hope I'm not hogging the forum
:beer:

T4D
12-09-2003, 12:20 AM
another cool model
very cute
should be all done in afew hours Hey :p

Pi3141
12-09-2003, 12:22 AM
should be all done in afew hours Hey

Gimme 30 minutes (including finishing those bird wings) :p

proton
12-09-2003, 12:25 AM
super clean mesh...gotta love it....you are running circles around the rest of us...

Steve Warner
12-09-2003, 12:36 AM
Sssssmmmokin! :beer:

angus1965
12-09-2003, 02:24 AM
Hahahahah - Killer! I can tell already this one is going to be my favorite!

policarpo
12-09-2003, 02:30 AM
it looks damn sweet dude! i love your work!

Pi3141
12-09-2003, 02:32 AM
lol, I'm going to do the same style as the chameleon, Christophe Desse dubbed it as "Realism Stylized"

:D


And I know I said I'd be done in half an hour, I hate to kill the hype but I got sidetracked :)

Only have the feet left to make, updates soon

AstroSanchezz
12-09-2003, 03:00 AM
your characters are evil i'm still trying to finish the one i'm on now
cuz i keep getting distracted looking at all of these :p
but keep them coming
good stuff :beer:

rickycox
12-09-2003, 05:51 AM
Looks good, keep us updated. Will the mouth open??

Pi3141
12-09-2003, 07:15 PM
Yup his mouth will open.

As you can see from these screens I haven't attached the feet to the back legs, I'll have that done by the next update which will be facial expressions.

The style I'm going for is the same style as my chameleon.


http://pisong.20m.com/Froggywires2.jpg


I would of liked to have this done ages ago but I got distracted :cool:

policarpo
12-09-2003, 07:19 PM
damn dude...your mesh is so freaking clean...did you use windex on that?

kurv
12-09-2003, 07:37 PM
CRAP you model quick!!

Awesome work dude, just be careful with this ones tongue :p

proton
12-09-2003, 07:50 PM
Killer!

angus1965
12-09-2003, 08:01 PM
Yea Ha!

I love it!

Pi3141
12-09-2003, 08:30 PM
Can anyone notice the completely screwed up anatomy? LOL.

I was making endomorphs and it came to me "Uh.... this frogs shoulders are on his face"

LOL... fixing it now :P

chrisWhite
12-09-2003, 08:35 PM
Wow that's a clean mesh :eek: So awesome, I'd have to agree that this is going to be my favorite of yours to date. Sweat! :buttrock:

How about recording the screen for you next character, I'm sure a lot of us would love to see that.
:bounce:

Pi3141
12-09-2003, 08:48 PM
Thanks man :)

How would I go about recording the modeling process? If theres a nice easy way to do it, sure thing.

I'm making an armadillo next ;)

chrisWhite
12-09-2003, 08:55 PM
Good question, someone like SplineGod could answer much better then I can. I know I've played with the free CamStudio and thought it worked well, but I really don't know if it's the best free program to use or not.

Cam Studio (http://www.ehelp.com/camstudio/product/screenrecording/)

Steve Warner
12-09-2003, 09:00 PM
Cam Studio works well. Most professionals use Camtasia Studio (http://www.techsmith.com) of which Cam Studio is a rip. It includes a production editor where you can edit your movies, add titles and graphics, and compress the final to Flash, animated GIF, or the TechSmith codec.

kurt30
12-09-2003, 11:03 PM
Bad Ass Frog! Ribbit!

oxyg3n
12-09-2003, 11:15 PM
your frog is look great

Pi3141
12-09-2003, 11:30 PM
Thanks guys. I found a little more time for an update.

Model is done, as are the morphs.

Next update will be surface and texture tests.

http://pisong.20m.com/TreeFrogWIP.jpg

AndrewE
12-09-2003, 11:32 PM
I LOVE IT!

You should have him give the thumbs up!

policarpo
12-09-2003, 11:39 PM
damn he rocks!

RIBBIT!

great job!

proton
12-09-2003, 11:41 PM
great update!

chrisWhite
12-09-2003, 11:42 PM
Awesome!!! I wish we still had that double butrock for occasions like this.

telamon
12-09-2003, 11:53 PM
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if thread from Pi reply Awesome :thumbsup: as always
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hey my script does not work... :D

Just one crit, I have been through google images. I have seen no frog race with so cute butts...

example

http://www.interkriti.org/pics/inter/frog.jpg

:thumbsup:

Pi3141
12-09-2003, 11:55 PM
If he was rigged, this would be a perfect time to upload an image of a green tree frog on a thighmaster machine... damn
:beer:

telamon
12-10-2003, 12:00 AM
I think you should make an extra bandsaw just behind the mouth to reduce the crease in this area. Have you tried that ?

projectcoil
12-10-2003, 12:00 AM
Until now, I've never thought of looking at the ass of a frog. Thanks for sharing guys.

...Now I can't stop looking at it. :eek:

Pi3141
12-10-2003, 12:03 AM
hmmm great idea telemon, I had a look at the butt end in modeler just then (just for you projectcoil) and saw what you mean, he has some mega crevase action going on I'll fix it for the next update.

Nice catch, thanks :beer:

projectcoil
12-10-2003, 12:07 AM
Originally posted by kurt30
Bad Ass Frog! Ribbit!

:buttrock:

Pi3141
12-10-2003, 12:18 AM
Better?

http://pisong.20m.com/Frogfixed.jpg

Sorry for the suggestive layout :p

lol I didnt' even think twice untill i had already uploaded it :bounce:

and i don't want to hear anything about a tongue endomorph!

:rolleyes:

policarpo
12-10-2003, 12:20 AM
damn dude...too friggin' cool!

telamon
12-10-2003, 12:22 AM
hum frog legs :drool:

rickycox
12-10-2003, 12:45 AM
why is it when you order frogs legs you only get three?? what happens to the other leg??

telamon
12-10-2003, 01:57 AM
Sorry... When I order frog legs I get let us say 50 pairs of legs. No arms at all :shrug:


I think the cook eats the arms :D

projectcoil
12-10-2003, 02:15 AM
Great looking legs.

rickycox
12-10-2003, 02:39 AM
Sorry... When I order frog legs I get let us say 50 pairs of legs. No arms at all

yep I guess that would be the case if you buy in bulk. I've only tried them a few times in a Vietnamese resturant.

telamon
12-10-2003, 02:41 AM
how, sorry, I don't know how the vietnamese cook their so delightfull stuffs :love: I was only meaning French restaurants. And 50 pairs of frog legs is a quick starter for me :D

AndrewE
12-10-2003, 03:36 AM
:love:

nice legs...

Pi3141
12-10-2003, 08:12 AM
lol..

Here's a render.

Yeah I know he stole the chameleons tree, and as you can see he feels just terrible about it :p

I was too tired to do any more tonight, I'll give him his own froggy environment tomorrow :bounce:

http://pisong.20m.com/froggy1.jpg
Brilliant Rigging in Process by T4D

EDIT: I also wanted to add. What do you think of that look? I mean without the photoreal textures? I can do both but I'm kinda thinking this look suits this frog better than a warty realistic one? Any thoughts?

SplineGod
12-10-2003, 10:32 AM
I really like the frog, nice clean modeling. The texturing should look great after seeing the chameleon. :) I also like that they have character. :)
The last frogs I did were THESE (http://www.3dtrainingonline.com/anims/bullfrogshots.avi)
PS. Still looking BTW! :)

Facial Deluxe
12-10-2003, 10:35 AM
I love that all your animals seems to be mocking :applause:

xtrm3d
12-10-2003, 11:11 AM
cooooll..
shit ..i missed this one..
harrrgg,...
really nice.. clean and funny :drool:

kurv
12-10-2003, 01:46 PM
Incredible!! Great work PiSong...

Pi3141
12-10-2003, 08:21 PM
Thanks guys :) I'm working on and off for an environment today. Might not have an update for a few days though, I'm winding down after a semi-modeling spree :)

Thanks again, will get some updates uploaded over the next day or two

:beer:

oxyg3n
12-10-2003, 08:27 PM
Did your frog eat the cameleon?

It is loooking nice. WHat are you doing to get the glowing effect around your character??

Pi3141
12-10-2003, 08:31 PM
lol no :P

You can get the glow around the characters a bunch of ways. I kinda cheat to get it but heck, it works for a still.


When I take the render into Photoshop, I select the background (that forest picture) and gaussian blur it. By default since the selection around the character and foreground isn't perfect, it also blurs the edges of the character and tree, giving it that cool soft 'glow'

yeah it's kind of a hack and a default effect, but I think it looks cool and is easy to do ;)

Pi3141
12-10-2003, 09:54 PM
Couldn't resist doing one more :)

I'll still make him a decent evironment tomorrow :beer:

http://pisong.20m.com/TreeFroggy1.jpg

policarpo
12-10-2003, 09:58 PM
too cool...just beautiful!!

but i feel that he is going to tell me to bugger off.
:beer:

roguenroll
12-10-2003, 09:58 PM
excellent, you inspire me.

In my nature is to over think about things and I end up overmodelling.

this is a great lesson in doing as much as necessary and
thats it.

:beer:

chrisWhite
12-10-2003, 09:58 PM
I, for one, are glad you couldn't resist, wonderful job, and my new desktop (kicking your chameleon off as he was there before).

kurv
12-10-2003, 09:59 PM
Originally posted by Pi3141
lol..

Here's a render.

Yeah I know he stole the chameleons tree, and as you can see he feels just terrible about it :p

I was too tired to do any more tonight, I'll give him his own froggy environment tomorrow :bounce:

http://pisong.20m.com/froggy1.jpg
Brilliant Rigging in Process by T4D

EDIT: I also wanted to add. What do you think of that look? I mean without the photoreal textures? I can do both but I'm kinda thinking this look suits this frog better than a warty realistic one? Any thoughts?

I guess I am in a weird mood today...I keep wanting to see him in that pose flipping people off :)

Sorry too much listening to Linkin Park today...

Steve Warner
12-10-2003, 10:00 PM
Originally posted by Pi3141
I'll still make him a decent evironment tomorrow :beer:

Are you HIGH!?! This looks awesome!. :eek: The plant leaves look outstanding! Way to go, PiSong!!!

chrisWhite
12-10-2003, 10:03 PM
Steve...ssssshhhhh...don't tell him that, we don't want him to think he can stay with this, I want to see what his idea of a decent environment is. :buttrock:

Pi3141
12-10-2003, 10:05 PM
Thanks guys!

Policarpo: Hehe how come my animals always come across edgy with attutide? lol kickass

roguenroll: Your right! It's amazing how far you can get with a simple, neat and clean mesh ;)

Wes, I was listening to "Numb" as I was making this ;) Wierd.


Steve, Thanks but tomorrow I want to make a detailed scene, rocks, plants, water, those little reed things that always make you think of frogs :)

Pi3141
12-10-2003, 10:06 PM
Forgot to add, N2King if you wanted a wallpaper just ask. I'll render out some to your desktop size. What size do you need?

chrisWhite
12-10-2003, 10:11 PM
Well, of course the bigger the better right, how about 16000x12000 :eek: Kidding, I run at 1600x1200, but that's high and I can live with lower res, heck I'm loving it as it is now.

Pi3141
12-10-2003, 10:12 PM
Already got a render on for that size, should have it uploaded shortly :)

kurv
12-10-2003, 10:21 PM
PiSong, your awesome!!!!

Did you get your ehemmm email from me :)

Pi3141
12-10-2003, 10:23 PM
Yep I got your email thanks Wes :) I'll read over it tomorrow since it's my day off 3D and get back to you. Thanks :)

Pi3141
12-10-2003, 10:52 PM
Look out below, she's a big one!


1600x1200

http://pisong.20m.com/Froggy1600x1200.jpg


It's not identical to the other render, but that's because there was some postwork done. Also surfaces aren't complete so if you want an updated wallpaper when I update the frog just lemme know.

As you know me by now, I'll also end up doing a bunch of goofy pose tests, so keep an eye out in a few days :)

Pi3141
12-10-2003, 10:56 PM
lol that's the first time i've seen him THAT big :) There's a few clipping issues in the pose that I didn't see, and the surface looks like cuck that close, I need to work on that.


*makes a few mental notes*

chrisWhite
12-10-2003, 11:00 PM
Sweet, thanks! :bounce:

Pi3141
12-10-2003, 11:55 PM
No problems. I still think it looks better smaller though :p

AndrewE
12-11-2003, 12:02 AM
YOU RULE!

chrisWhite
12-11-2003, 12:11 AM
I dono, it kind of has a stylized look to it now, not that I'd leave it that way, but I like it for now :thumbsup:

Gkaine
12-11-2003, 02:18 AM
hey nice work on the treefrog pi, i really like the character you put into this one, you really nailed it here

Pi3141
12-11-2003, 05:59 AM
Thanks Cane, glad you like him. I'll have some more renders up in a day or so with him in his fully detailed environment (pond, rocks, trees, leaves all the fun stuff)


Thanks again :beer:

SplineGod
12-11-2003, 06:09 AM
Hey Pisong,
That frog is looking better and better. I have a preset I did as kind of a starting point for frog skin awhile ago. Feel free to use it but if you become rich and famous dont forget the skin! :)
Its right HERE (http://www.3dtrainingonline.com/presets/frog_skin.pst)

Pi3141
12-11-2003, 06:16 AM
Thanks man!!

Just checked it out, very very cool, suits the style of my frog too!

A few tweaks to match the lighting setup and I think it will be perfect for the frog, thanks again that's very very generous of you

:beer:

And if I get rich and famous, I'll send you an invite to the "Pi Song Appreciation Gala" :p

:bounce:

SplineGod
12-11-2003, 06:22 AM
Originally posted by Pi3141
Thanks man!!

Just checked it out, very very cool, suits the style of my frog too!

A few tweaks to match the lighting setup and I think it will be perfect for the frog, thanks again that's very very generous of you

:beer:

And if I get rich and famous, I'll send you an invite to the "Pi Song Appreciation Gala" :p

:bounce:
Nice, Ill be looking forward to seeing your frog all decked out.
Hey, now that sounds like a GALA! :) Bring Your Own Frog?

Pi3141
12-11-2003, 06:46 AM
If I had a Gala, yes you'd have to bring your own frog In fact unless you have one, you can't get in :)

T4D's excused, he rigged it, that's an instant pass :)

Heck, he would be right up there with me lol.

People forget, that I might work quick, but Thomas keeps up with me.

Plus frogs are very boring in their default modeled position, as are chameleons, celebrities and anything else i've done, we can all thank T4D for helping bring them to life :)

Facial Deluxe
12-11-2003, 06:58 AM
There's something french in that frog :D

Pi3141
12-11-2003, 07:00 AM
A fork? :p

AstroSanchezz
12-11-2003, 07:02 AM
lookin great pi
can't wait to see some funny poses
with this guy :)

T4D
12-11-2003, 07:12 AM
Such kind word Pisong :)
but all these rigs i've done for you have helped me Big time getting my riggng down to a very fast and simple process
should be able to do a rig in 10 mins in lw8 :buttrock:

but that frog was a tricky one, one of the most flexable rigs i've had to do. But Great Fun :beer:
now let's see that animation :D

Facial Deluxe
12-11-2003, 07:25 AM
Originally posted by Pi3141
A fork? :p
Yeah, usualy we meet them with nice sharp fork heeeeheeeeheeee :rolleyes:

Pi3141
12-11-2003, 07:53 AM
lol ok now I'm confused, whats french about the frog?

And isn't frogs legs a french cuisine? hence the fork comment :p

Facial Deluxe
12-11-2003, 09:41 AM
Yep we Eeeeat'em :D
Taste good, a bit like fish :) But we don't eat this often, happened me perhaps 3 times in my life...

Sil3
12-11-2003, 09:43 AM
I hate Frog legs....blarghhh, but i love little snails :drool:

xtrm3d
12-11-2003, 09:51 AM
huuuuummm...
frogg legs.. fried with oignon and mushroom.. sluuurpyyy..
and after that 12 snail in garlic butter ... haarrrrrghhhh
i wannnnnnnttttt !!!

Sil3
12-11-2003, 10:29 AM
Dont forget tons of really cooled beers to help things go smoothly down the throat :beer:

rickycox
12-11-2003, 11:24 AM
Can I ask, what's the jungle scene in the background? Are you just using stock photography? Thanks btw for the pix, I've now got a new desktop.

telamon
12-11-2003, 12:43 PM
Originally posted by Sil3
Dont forget tons of really cooled beers to help things go smoothly down the throat :beer:

sacrilege

White wine is better...

Mmmm frog legs with parsley, garlic and lime :drool:

Pi3141
12-12-2003, 05:49 PM
I did get around to making that more detailed evirnoment, but i personally don't like it one bit. I think it was a case of "overkill" and the original simpler scenes worked better.

Here take a look



http://pisong.20m.com/TreeFrogEnviro.jpg


So, on that note I've posted a few renders of the froggy in the first scene in various poses over in the finished gallery.

http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=109318

I would have liked to do more stills like the chameleon, BUT.... I must move on, I have a new animal to make and some anims to finish. :beer:


Riki: Yeah just stock jungle scenes for the background pics. And thanks, glad you like the wallpaper. ;)

Remi
12-12-2003, 05:59 PM
Good work Pi...looking forward to seeing your new character:)

chrisWhite
12-12-2003, 06:02 PM
As am I, great work Pi, I still think this is my favorite of your characters so far. :thumbsup:

Hey Remi, love your new avatar!

rickycox
12-12-2003, 11:36 PM
I liked the first scene. It worked well.

ZeroSkaten
12-13-2003, 12:26 AM
That is one awesome frog. In the last render it looks like it's on something :beer:! Awesome cartoony effect! Could you tell me what technique you used to model it? :thumbsup:


Evan

Pi3141
12-13-2003, 03:34 AM
Thanks guys :) I too prefer the first renders :)


Zero, he was modeled entirely using the "Patch" method of modeling :)

st45
12-13-2003, 07:44 PM
Originally posted by Pi3141
Thanks man :)

How would I go about recording the modeling process? If theres a nice easy way to do it, sure thing.

I'm making an armadillo next ;)

Use programs like Cybercam or Camtasia. They can record x frames per second from your screen. I don't remember if they were freeware or for cost. I found them at tucows.com and download.com. I've used Cybercam quite a bit for my own training cds for Animation:Master

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