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Srek
09-26-2012, 04:04 PM
Latest Edition of Industry Leading 3D Software Application Offers Fully Functional Licenses to Help Animation and Design Students Fast-Track to Success.



MAXON today announced worldwide availability of a free, fully functional, Student Edition of CINEMA 4D R14 (http://www.maxon.net/en/products/general-information/general-information/student-versions.html). Today’s release marks an expanded global initiative to empower students with unrestricted access to the same tools professional 3D artists use to sharpen their skills, without budget constraints.

“MAXON remains committed to providing students and educators with easy-to-use 3D software tools and training that will help boost their creativity to the next level,” states Harald Egel, co-founder and CEO at MAXON. “Free access to our CINEMA 4D Student Edition promises to benefit students in various fields of study – graphic design, motion graphics, film, animation, architecture and product design. We are pleased to offer students this comprehensive introduction to the world of 3D and help them to fast-track their success and deliver professional results in the real world.”


The functionality in the free student edition of CINEMA 4D differs only slightly from the package used by professionals worldwide in their high-end productions. Students receive a special version of CINEMA 4D R14 Studio (http://www.maxon.net/en/products/cinema-4d-studio/who-should-use-it.html), including all features such as the physical render engine, Hair, MoGraph, Sketch and Toon, a powerful character animation toolset and libraries bursting with objects and materials.


MAXON also offers educational institutions very affordable pricing for CINEMA 4D Studio licenses. All files created with the student version are fully compatible with the commercial version.


The CINEMA 4D R14 Student Edition license is available to qualified students at institutions of higher learning. Students can register online and can quickly get started once their status has been verified. To make learning CINEMA 4D even easier and faster, we will also include numerous tutorials that cover various aspects of the application. MAXON’s own video training portal also offers hundreds of free English-language video tutorials at www.cineversity.com (http://www.cineversity.com).


Further details about how to qualify for the CINEMA 4D R14 Student Edition are available at the MAXON site (http://www.maxon.net/en/products/general-information/general-information/student-versions.html).

Kanga
09-26-2012, 10:27 PM
Well done Maxon!

azamux
09-26-2012, 10:32 PM
Woot! If Autodesk doesn't adopt a similar practice we'll be watching max and maya sales plummet over the next 5 - 10 years. Way to go MAXON!!! :beer:

pnoland
09-26-2012, 10:43 PM
Woot! If Autodesk doesn't adopt a similar practice we'll be watching max and maya sales plummet over the next 5 - 10 years. Way to go MAXON!!! :beer:

Um, students can already do this with Autodesk products...just saying. If I were a student I'd totally be on board with this but alas I'm a poor hobbyist. :P

eworc
09-26-2012, 11:19 PM
You don't even have to be a student to take advantage of the Autodesk student program of 3 year access to their portfolio of software.

What needs to happen is for Maxon and others to take the SESI route like their Houdini HD option. Heck, even Houdini Apprentice is high and above other software's learning editions. Their watermark is barely intrusive and it's fully operational on the import side. SESI gives access to hobbyists and students like a boss.

Kanga
09-27-2012, 12:08 AM
Woot! If Autodesk doesn't adopt a similar practice we'll be watching max and maya sales plummet over the next 5 - 10 years. Way to go MAXON!!! :beer:
Yeah I was going to write : google Autodesk Education. They have been doing an impressive job for a while.

And plummet?

Tiles
09-27-2012, 08:53 AM
You don't even have to be a student

Yes you have. They ask for a proof.

kwabbott
09-27-2012, 12:44 PM
It's great to see Maxon step up with this program, but in truth they are late to the game on this. One of the reasons we switched to 3DS Max a few years ago was because my students could get free licences to run one their personal computers. It makes a significant difference in the amount of time they spend on their projects. NOw C4D students can enjoy the same boost!

Donovan Keith
09-27-2012, 03:15 PM
As a teacher, this is fantastic news. Well done Maxon!

fablefox
09-27-2012, 03:58 PM
All files created with the student version are fully compatible with the commercial version. :beer:

Thank you! Thank you! Now is to make sure registration from Malaysia is easy (last time it didn't work, and ask me to contact a re-seller in Singapore which didn't reply to my email).

fablefox
09-27-2012, 04:00 PM
It's great to see Maxon step up with this program, but in truth they are late to the game on this. One of the reasons we switched to 3DS Max a few years ago was because my students could get free licences to run one their personal computers. It makes a significant difference in the amount of time they spend on their projects. NOw C4D students can enjoy the same boost!

The college where I'm studying now also moved from LW to MAX/Maya for the same reason.

fablefox
09-27-2012, 04:34 PM
oh well, it still direct me to the same distributor. I guess I'll just stick to my current software then...

DePaint
09-27-2012, 05:09 PM
I wished that there was a free "Hobbyist" or "Enthusiast Edition" of C4D for people who are not students, but also not engaged in commercial work.

A version to learn with and play around with.

Something like Houdini Apprentice...

Anyways, this is a great deal for Students.

eworc
09-27-2012, 05:56 PM
Yes you have. They ask for a proof.

Reality is....

"and upon request by Autodesk is able to provide proof of such enrollment."

Also choosing unemployed is another option and it doesn't require any proof.


There really isn't much difference between a person downloading trial software, using it for it's time period and reusing it over and over...versus this option which can last up to 3 years, other than the hassle of it all, which depends on your technical knowledge and time you are willing to spend on the process. It's less of a burden on the user and on autodesk in my opinion.

I however prefer SESI Apprentice and HD option to any of this nonsense by Autodesk, Maxon and others.

* As a side note, SESI's Orbolt is a way for developers and SESI themselves to gain sales of assests selling to Apprentice and Apprentice HD users, which wouldn't be viable using just trial/demo software.

MAN0
09-27-2012, 06:30 PM
this is a great news you lucky studensts :D

Dillster
09-28-2012, 11:30 AM
Yes you have. They ask for a proof.

That's correct. Our student ID works for this and they verify it quickly, so no long wait to get the software.

DePaint
09-28-2012, 03:47 PM
Its a good way to get a couple of thousand new people around the world interested & trained in C4D.

Good move by Maxon!

I just wish there was a free "Enthusiast" version for the rest of us who aren't students to play around with...

Bullit
09-28-2012, 04:47 PM
Meh.

A real change would be you get a free license for freelancers, paying when start to make paid work, , this could be achieved requiring web connection to verify.

I am sure many persons wouldn't have problem paying a % of work if they don't have to make the investment upfront and also to make available the work for the software house promotion.

Besides with Blender being better every year i don't think they can escape from something like this.

Also another issue is the complete useless 30 day demos for professional people. Everyone that works sometimes have 1 or 2 weeks full work or more and haven't time look to the demo in that period but the clock is ticking.

DePaint
09-28-2012, 05:04 PM
Besides with Blender being better every year i don't think they can escape from something like this.

C4D has a much better UI than Blender, unfortunately. So while Blender is improving every day, the workflow speed doesn't match C4D's. (Unless, maybe, you know the keyboard shortcuts for Blender very well, which I personally don't).

Also another issue is the complete useless 30 day demos for professional people. Everyone that works sometimes have 1 or 2 weeks full work or more and haven't time look to the demo in that period but the clock is ticking.

C4D's demo gives you 2 options. Use as much as you want, but save-disabled. Or fully functional, but 42 days trial only...

DuttyFoot
09-28-2012, 05:17 PM
Quote:Originally Posted by*BullitBesides with Blender being better every year i don't think they can escape from something like this.C4D has a much better UI than Blender, unfortunately. So while Blender is improving every day, the workflow speed doesn't match C4D's. (Unless, maybe, you know the keyboard shortcuts for Blender very well, which I personally don't).Quote:Originally Posted by*BullitAlso another issue is the complete useless 30 day demos for professional people. Everyone that works sometimes have 1 or 2 weeks full work or more and haven't time look to the demo in that period but the clock is ticking.C4D's demo gives you 2 options. Use as much as you want, but save-disabled. Or fully functional, but 42 days trial only...

I just realized that c4d did that, it isnt a bad option at all.

eworc
09-28-2012, 07:00 PM
That's correct. Our student ID works for this and they verify it quickly, so no long wait to get the software.

Then you would have to explain how a non-student, that doesn't have a student ID can have an account to download and use the software. So, unless something changed in the last 6 months, which could be the case, what I stated as being the reality, is a fact.



A real change would be you get a free license for freelancers, paying when start to make paid work, , this could be achieved requiring web connection to verify.


I don't agree with this, I think there should be some amount of investment made, like Houdini Apprentice HD or some restrictions on the software, like Houdini Apprentice. I think that's fair from the company's perspective. We all want free stuff but sometimes that comes with negative unintended consequences.

Ciuccio
09-28-2012, 08:14 PM
C4D has a much better UI than Blender, unfortunately. So while Blender is improving every day, the workflow speed doesn't match C4D's. (Unless, maybe, you know the keyboard shortcuts for Blender very well, which I personally don't).



C4D's demo gives you 2 options. Use as much as you want, but save-disabled. Or fully functional, but 42 days trial only...

This is not true, at all. Blender GUI is one of the better I ever tried (more flexible of modo one and very well organized).
Please, explain why blender GUI is worse for you. IMHO is all a matter of habits: you are used to other GUI blender sound to different for you. I can say, one of the most acclaimed GUI is modo GUI... I hate this.

Some people want see in blender a clone of their favourite commercial application. Blender is not a clone, is a software with its logic and resolve the some problems in a different way, and is the same for Maya, 3dsm, Softimage, Cinema etc.

with the rising of 2.5 release, the complaint about GUI is only made for habit from people who have never tried (seriously tried and studied) Blender.

As for speed, believe me or not, I don't know software more fast than blender (only Silo modelling more fast and only Softimage is fast, in general, like blender). Try it seriously like you trying some commercial software, blender is not a toy. The only things lack (for my need) is a bit more power (viewport is very weak, my hope is on viewport FX google summer of code).

I think blender will cage the balance of many software. I will not surprised if a day Brad Peebler said the move of Foundry acquisition upon Luxology was made for save Modo by blender gain ground little studios and freelancers fields.

Srek
09-29-2012, 01:20 PM
Guys, software comparison threads are frowned upon for a reason (see posting rules). Please just stay on the topic of the thread.
Thanks
Björn

CB_3D
09-29-2012, 01:36 PM
Yes you have. They ask for a proof.

There´s a "Homestudent" option. No proof needed because that one is intended precisely for that..learning it auto-didactically.

Select it and proceed to download and activate with a serial number right away. While I don´t really like their softwares , I always considered that a good strategy.

PS: That´s about the AD edu versions.

Rikof
09-29-2012, 07:50 PM
So why doesn't anybody asks the question you should ask after reading this: " the free student edition of CINEMA 4D differs only slightly from the package used by professionals worldwide".

What is that 'slight' difference?

fablefox
09-29-2012, 08:14 PM
So why doesn't anybody asks the question you should ask after reading this: " the free student edition of CINEMA 4D differs only slightly from the package used by professionals worldwide".

What is that 'slight' difference?

Maybe because there is a product page with the difference being ticked and untick between the two versions? The answer is there and therefore no need to ask? :deal:

I mean, that page was even linked in the original post. :shrug:

Kanga
09-29-2012, 08:31 PM
So why doesn't anybody asks the question you should ask after reading this: " the free student edition of CINEMA 4D differs only slightly from the package used by professionals worldwide".

What is that 'slight' difference?
In a tough economic climate it pays to create new clients. Give students a chance to learn the software so they can carry that knowledge on to their professional positions. The more clients Maxon has the more they can spend on development. More development means improved products for paying professionals. Paying professional don't need four years to determine if a product fits into their workflow.

It doesn't pay better to distribute hobbled software to potential clients.

bravmm
09-30-2012, 12:41 PM
will there be a difference between scenes created in the student version and the professional one?
or said differently, can you open up your old scenes when upgrading to the commercial version?

really important i guess..

rob

SaphireS
09-30-2012, 01:35 PM
Already got mine, they are really fast with approving requests, thanks Maxon. :beer:

DePaint
09-30-2012, 04:30 PM
So why doesn't anybody asks the question you should ask after reading this: " the free student edition of CINEMA 4D differs only slightly from the package used by professionals worldwide".

What is that 'slight' difference?

No network rendering, no plugins support, no helpline use, no discount when upgrading to full commercial version. It says it all here:

http://www.maxon.net/products/general-information/general-information/student-versions.html

bobtronic
09-30-2012, 05:10 PM
will there be a difference between scenes created in the student version and the professional one?
or said differently, can you open up your old scenes when upgrading to the commercial version?

really important i guess..

rob

Scenes created with the student version can be opened in commercial versions of CINEMA 4D.

crackle
10-02-2012, 09:39 PM
There´s a "Homestudent" option. No proof needed because that one is intended precisely for that..learning it auto-didactically.

Select it and proceed to download and activate with a serial number right away. While I don´t really like their softwares , I always considered that a good strategy.

PS: That´s about the AD edu versions.

where did you see that? i've looked quite a few times, dont see it. please advise...

ShockwaveMF
10-03-2012, 02:51 PM
"Technical Problems!
We are very sorry, but due to technical problems your request wasn't send. Please try again.

Try again."

Unfortunately...

When will it be fixed?! Any information?

greets

Marc

Srek
10-03-2012, 02:53 PM
Get in contact with Maxon technical support, i don't know of any general problem.
Cheers
Björn

ShockwaveMF
10-03-2012, 03:37 PM
Hey Srek,

I visited the homepage of MAXON to contact the support.

Unfortunately the only fitting section for contacting was : Support Questions.

But there you have to indicate your serial-number. It´s a mandatory-field. But what should I insert, when my question is about a problem getting a new version, while not having it yet?! :)

Edit: Nevermind: I found info@maxon.de. :)
greets

Marc

eworc
10-03-2012, 04:59 PM
where did you see that? i've looked quite a few times, dont see it. please advise...

http://students.autodesk.com/?nd=register

Fill in the info and choose student and go to step 2.

In step two, fill in all the info and at the bottom is asks for School Name.
Choose Homeschool (United States of America)

ezekiel66
10-09-2012, 05:47 PM
I don't get why they only make this available for students. There are many people wishing to get into the 3D business (and who are potential clients!), not just those with a student license.

Just saying, makes no sense to me to require such proof. Other companies have understood this, Maxon obviously hasn't. Even Maxwell has versions of Maxwell Render and Real Flow with slightly reduced functionality, not for free, but for a fraction of the price of the commercial version.

They should consider to make the free Cinema version accessible without student license. Just my 2 cents.

ThirdEye
10-09-2012, 06:37 PM
I don't get why they only make this available for students. There are many people wishing to get into the 3D business (and who are potential clients!), not just those with a student license.

Just saying, makes no sense to me to require such proof. Other companies have understood this, Maxon obviously hasn't. Even Maxwell has versions of Maxwell Render and Real Flow with slightly reduced functionality, not for free, but for a fraction of the price of the commercial version.

They should consider to make the free Cinema version accessible without student license. Just my 2 cents.

Have you ever heard of the trial version of C4D? The only thing it doesn't is saving files.

eworc
10-09-2012, 06:39 PM
Makes sense to me ezekiel66. They won't lose many if any sales on the commerical end that wouldn't be made up by those purchasing a non-comerical version. Quite frankly there are a lot of people that will purchase software in the sub $300 range that will never go above that unless they did it for a living. That's why SESI's Houdini Apprentice and Apprentice HD versions should be the norm. They grow more of a base that they wouldn't have otherwise, which ultimately increases and/or maintains commerical sales in my opinion.

As a hobbyist, I bought Cinema 4D 8 studio awhile back because it wasn't near as expensive as the top programs at the time but was exponentially better than anything in the middle or lower tier such as Lightwave, Truespace and Carrara. However, Cinema is priced out of this market share and I don't see them gaining much of this market back, unless they offer something similar to Houdini HD.

eworc
10-09-2012, 06:50 PM
Have you ever heard of the trial version of C4D? The only thing it doesn't is saving files.

Sure but it isn't as good.

Houdini Apprentice = free, no restriction on import, saving of non-commerical file format that can be opened by commerical/non-commerical versions and 720x576 resolution with non-intrusive watermark.

Houdini Apprentice HD = $99 a year, no restriction on import, saving of non-commerical file format that can be opened by commerical/non-commerical versions and 1920 x 1080 resolution with no watermark.

So, at a minimum, I think Maxon needs to add a non-commerical file format to their demo that can be utilized or people are not going to want to do anything with it that takes more than 30 minutes to create. I would rather see an HD type version.

Per-Anders
10-09-2012, 07:10 PM
Sure but it isn't as good.

Houdini Apprentice = free, no restriction on import, saving of non-commerical file format that can be opened by commerical/non-commerical versions and 720x576 resolution with non-intrusive watermark.

Houdini Apprentice HD = $99 a year, no restriction on import, saving of non-commerical file format that can be opened by commerical/non-commerical versions and 1920 x 1080 resolution with no watermark.

So, at a minimum, I think Maxon needs to add a non-commerical file format to their demo that can be utilized or people are not going to want to do anything with it that takes more than 30 minutes to create. I would rather see an HD type version.
While I agree that the Houdini approach is very nice the C4D Demo is not merely a save disabled demonstration, you can run the demo as a full unlimited version for 30 days with a serial from MAXON after which it will return to save disabled mode. So you can in fact save and render at any resolution during that time.

eworc
10-10-2012, 12:52 AM
You are correct. I think we can all agree that it would be better if they mirror the Houdini Apprentice and HD for non commerical uses and drop the demo and student options altogether. I have yet to read an opinion contrary to this.


" and 1920 x 1080 resolution with no watermark"

Let me clarify this though about the HD. There is no restriction on still image output, just animation is limited to 1920 X 1080. In other words, for somebody using Houdini for non-commercial reasons, this is just right in my opinion.

Oh and Per, think of the increase of customers to you and other developers. The Orbolt store being a good example of something similar that Maxon and others can implement...since developers can provide free and sell non-commerical and commercial plugins, etc.

Kanga
10-10-2012, 02:28 AM
If I was a smart company I would be betting on students. Autodesk has its student program for a very good reason. Get em while they are young. People really only change software when they have to. Give beginners loads of time to get hooked on your product. Also 3d apps are talking a lot better with each other these days so there may be no reason to change from Maxon in the future when those students enter the workplace.

The only thing you are going to miss is the special feeling someone has when they bought the full version,... no one else has. Smart user know if Maxon has revenue that their software will keep improving. Its just a clever move to have a student program. If you think in terms of old business models you will kill your product off. Its time to move it or loose it :)

DePaint
10-10-2012, 09:50 AM
Houdini Apprentice = free, no restriction on import, saving of non-commerical file format that can be opened by commerical/non-commerical versions and 720x576 resolution with non-intrusive watermark.

A free, non-commercial version of C4D that renders up to say 800 x 600 resolution, and maybe has network rendering and plugin support taken out would be terrific.

I haven't used C4D since version R9. I'd love to spend some time learning how to use R14.

futagoza
10-10-2012, 05:50 PM
They should consider to make the free Cinema version accessible without student license. Just my 2 cents.

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Stefan

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