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mlykke
12-14-2001, 09:42 PM
Hi

I use 3dsmax to model/light my scenes. The next step where I need to improve is drawing textures for my 3d models.

http://www.wilddemo.dk/launchbay28.jpg

This is the scene I am working on right now. As you can see the models really need some color/bumb/specular maps.

Since I'm not that good at drawing, I think using some free textures from the web and modifying them in Photoshop is the best way for me. There is alot of free texture links here:

http://www.3drender.com/ref/texture.htm

Now... does anybody know of some tips/tricks/tutorials on the net for a newbie like me? I know practice is 90% of it, but I'm really stuck. I need some help getting a good start.

Thank you for your time.

kumodot
12-15-2001, 11:08 AM
Hi... Good modeling/lightning . :)

I am planning to put some "how to do textures" on my new site... The site s in Portuguese, cause i am from Brazil...But, i am searching a way to put an english version too...
I am using photoshop 5.5 to create textures...But guess that Fractal Painter 6, is far better than photoshop to CREATE, any texture. Photoshop has few good tools to do it... Is much more painfull to create such things only with photoshop. The better way is to use some real pics, of dirt places, mask, paint, burn, and edit then to archive your "texture" look, and to fit your models.

To do textures, i always render an orthogonal view of the object, and put this render as a background layer on Photoshop, ou Fractal Painter...So, you can do the texture fit exactly where you want.
I have a tutorial, wrote in english, about how to create a dirt texture like this :
http://www.3donline.com.br/teste/papiro.jpg

If you want this...Send me an e-mail, ok ?
It's about 800Kb.

Kadde
12-15-2001, 11:31 AM
very cool atmosphere ! good lights !

u could experiment some texture combination with the material
editor. in the Max library / Metals/
there are good old rusty metal,starship textures.

try using the "blend mateiral" , combining two or more textures.

the method used by 3donline is a very good way to work.

i noted the structures are almost plane. it requires simple mapping gizmos like "box" or "face".
later, u can use photoshop to modify the textures found in the
Max library.

Equinoxx
12-15-2001, 11:45 AM
ooh i love that papiro 3dO, think you can send it to me ??

x_light@hotmail.com :D

mlykke
12-15-2001, 01:30 PM
Hi Marcelo

Yes please email it to mlykke@ofir.dk.

I would love to see some tutorials from you, because that image you posted is very good.

I have asked this question about drawing textures in a few web board. Most of the time people post links to some free textures on the net. But that is not what I need. I have tons of them. I need help in understanding how to modify the textures inside a paint program so I can use them on my own 3d objects. Its not the 3dsmax part I need help with, its the painting part.

kumodot
12-15-2001, 02:17 PM
I don't want to disturb this topic...


I would like to post the tutorial on a site, to help more people, who wants to learn more about photoshop techniques...
I will search the english version of the tutorial and send it to you...

Please, give some hours to find it... :)

JuRrAsStOiL
12-15-2001, 08:34 PM
hey that would be very interessting :)
Will you post the link here or just send it
with mail? (xpect@hotmail.com)

@mlykke
Which software did u use? Looks a bit like
3ds max + finalrender...

mlykke
12-16-2001, 01:57 AM
That picture is pure 3dsmax 4.2 scanline. 5-6 mins/frame on a 1333Mhz Tbird.... 428 omni lights. I was going to use the lightpanels as real light emitting objects. But the render time just went up where I could no long use it for an animation. Hope Brazil 1.0 will fix that :)

JuRrAsStOiL
12-16-2001, 10:19 AM
I think its a bit too slooooow :D
try finalrender (http://www.finalrender.com). It kicks ass and
it's fast like hell :)

mlykke
12-17-2001, 06:31 AM
I have tried Final Render... Don't like it. Yes Brazil is not that fast in its current build 0.2.26b. But Brazil is much more logical.

http://max3d.3dluvr.com/image.php?image=http://www.max3d.com/media/47/drewbie1.jpg

Brazil will be faster.

Hmmm... this is off topic.. So I betterpost an update to how the texturing is comming along:

http://www.wilddemo.dk/brazil/wallsectiontest.jpg

Still a test though.

toma
12-17-2001, 07:17 AM
Hi mlykke,

Maybe you should try video tutorials hosted on dvgarage (http://www.dvgarage.com) . There are a few tutorials talkign about textures (look at the parking lines on tarmac tutorial).

They're quite simple, explicit, and have a very good result.

note : you'll need to be a registered user on dvgarage.com, but try it ! it is good.

I hope this helps.

log
12-19-2001, 09:24 PM
could you please send it to me too? :D
quirk@passagen.se
cheers!

Fat&ugly
12-20-2001, 10:48 AM
The best way to learn(for me) is to watch and copy. Recreate textures that you see and like. That way you will figure some tricks or common traits in good textures.

Firebat_2000
12-31-2001, 05:23 AM
428 omni lights???are you nuts?!?
anyway, now that you have the basic textures, try making a blend/mix material .say you want the panels to be shiny metal, but you also want some very dirty/beaten up areas.the easiest way (controlable) is to assign another UVW mapping coordinates at another channel (2nd for example).and make a blend material with the 2 materials, using a bitmap for the blend amount.you later paint that bitmap in photoshop and youre ready!!
later you'll have to be able to do the same for complex models, not that planar...and that's the real fun.
go to www.neilblevins.com and take a look at his tutorials.in the very beginning there are some material tutorials that really are helpful.

Firebat_2000
12-31-2001, 05:32 AM
id also recommend you check out www.3dpalette.org tutorials, but they're merging with another site (gfx artist or something) so we'll have to wait to see what they both have.

mlykke
01-12-2002, 10:30 PM
Originally posted by Firebat_2000
428 omni lights???are you nuts?!?


Yes... :)

Just trying to simulate the lightpanels. Real objectlights would be nice, but they take a lot longer to render.

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