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zorbec
08-11-2012, 10:10 AM
Heya guys,

For some reason, i NEED to buy a new laptop before next friday and it HAS to be a mac. I want to buy the MBP 15" retina 2.6ghz with 16gb ram.

The problem is, i can't find it anywhere in my country since it's a "non-standard" config and i can't order it online since i'm not sure it will arrive before friday.

After tons of phone calls i've found some shops witch have these 2 options:

Either i buy the 2.3ghz with 16gb ram 256gb SSD drive OR the 2.6ghz with 8gb ram and 512gb SSD drive.

So here is my question: should i go for RAM or CPU ? (ofc it's for Zbrush use)

Thanks in advance guys

PS: anyone got new MBP and using it with Zbrush ?

earwax69
08-11-2012, 01:33 PM
The ram is soldered... if you go with the 8gb... it's final. I would go with the 2.3ghz if the price is somewhat lower. Then maybe you can sell it afterward and get what you really want.

But if I were you, I would not buy it in a rush except if it's not your own money!

Xistel
08-11-2012, 10:11 PM
I wouldn't go for the retina display one.

I'd go for normal screen (glossy), 2.6ghz,16gb ram (not soldered in this model) and if you really want ssd, go ahead.

Personally I've never used ssd, but I just find the prices cray-cray

cgbeige
08-11-2012, 10:31 PM
SSDs are definitely worth the cost and the rMBP comes with a very fast Samsung 6GB/s model so definitely get that. Get more RAM though since you can swap out the SSD kit later. There are upgrades around.

Dillster
08-20-2012, 07:46 PM
For me, retina display wouldn't be the deciding factor. I've got an iPad 2 and a new iPad and the difference in the display or details visible is hardy a WOW factor. Too many geeks got over-excited about it in the early days, they should be slapped around for getting everyone else worked up about it.
There are more important considerations in buying a laptop which will have a more direct affect on the user experience. I would be inclined to go for the 16gb RAM model as you will be stuck with it.

cgbeige
08-20-2012, 07:58 PM
you're definitely alone there. Any time i see a non-retina iPad (I owned one) after getting the iPad 3, it looks like ass.

CKPinson
08-20-2012, 10:19 PM
Retina is only practical if you are reviewing RAW photos or in the Medical field (which even then half the bozos at my work wouldn't know how to utilize it, but ironically they all own every apple product known to man {DOCTORS HMPH}).

BoostAbuse
08-21-2012, 12:55 AM
Retina is only practical if you are reviewing RAW photos or in the Medical field (which even then half the bozos at my work wouldn't know how to utilize it, but ironically they all own every apple product known to man {DOCTORS HMPH}).

Depends really... I personally don't use the Retina 1440x900 display just because I feel that's too restrictive of a resolution for my work but the full panel display means I can edit 16 megapixel photos right out of my camera without even needing to zoom. That's a big thing for me as a photographer because I can edit an entire image without having to zone around making sure my edits aren't doing bad things to other areas.

As for CG it definitely has purpose, just look at FCPX and how it scales the interface for 1080p sized material in a small little window without having to scale the rest of the UI.

This will likely become a standard going forward for displays I'd bet.

olson
08-21-2012, 01:36 PM
...since you can swap out the SSD kit later.

From what I've read there's nothing user upgradable/serviceable/repairable.

http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9230209/The_sealed_box_Mac_Cutting_edge_design_or_planned_obsolescence_

The SSD is a separate module but is proprietary. Also the battery is glued into the notebook. iFixit gave it the worst possible score.

http://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/MacBook-Pro-with-Retina-Display-Teardown/9462#.T9j3-CtYv-L

For the original poster, I'd take the one with the most memory. An external disk is always an option if you run out of storage.

tuna
08-21-2012, 06:46 PM
From what I've read there's nothing user upgradable/serviceable/repairable.

http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9230209/The_sealed_box_Mac_Cutting_edge_design_or_planned_obsolescence_

The SSD is a separate module but is proprietary. Also the battery is glued into the notebook. iFixit gave it the worst possible score.

http://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/MacBook-Pro-with-Retina-Display-Teardown/9462#.T9j3-CtYv-L

For the original poster, I'd take the one with the most memory. An external disk is always an option if you run out of storage.


http://eshop.macsales.com/shop/SSD/OWC/Aura_Pro_Retina_2012/

olson
08-21-2012, 07:07 PM
http://eshop.macsales.com/shop/SSD/OWC/Aura_Pro_Retina_2012/

That's cool that somebody makes them. In that case I'd definitely go for the model with more memory. Too bad the upgrade is $600 but that's better than not being able to upgrade at all.

cgbeige
08-24-2012, 10:07 PM
ya, I wouldn't jump on that replacement though. Apple's using a much faster Samsung SSD and OWC's Mercury Elite 6GB/s is more like a Vertex3. Unless it's newer than those - anyone know?

It might be faster than what Apple's using in the Air but probably not the Pro. Anyway, the popularity of these laptops will see a lot of custom options come soon, I think. It took a bit but cheaper DVD drive caddy HD replacements became popular for the previous generations. I swapped out the DVD drive for more storage in my 2011 17" MBP.

CKPinson
08-28-2012, 05:43 PM
the upcoming 13inch retina

mustique
08-30-2012, 02:28 PM
get the one you can afford. Just make sure it has 16 GB Ram.

tuna
09-02-2012, 01:14 AM
the upcoming 13inch retina


It's highly unlikely it will have a discreet video card (like the current 13" lineup), making it useless for anything 3d.

CKPinson
09-03-2012, 07:44 PM
EWWW- that would be such a mistake too! cuz it'd be awesome to tote around with my new camera [wink]

tswalk
09-03-2012, 08:05 PM
i'm just throwing this out cause, well.. i'm like that:


http://www.macbreaker.com/2012/04/best-lenovo-hackintosh-ideapad-b570.html

tuna
09-03-2012, 09:42 PM
i'm just throwing this out cause, well.. i'm like that:


http://www.macbreaker.com/2012/04/best-lenovo-hackintosh-ideapad-b570.html

A laptop with integrated graphics card.....

cgbeige
09-03-2012, 11:22 PM
and a Hackintosh is a brutal waste of time and energy because the stability is nowhere near that of a Mac. I've tried on my gaming rig and it was completely hopeless.

CKPinson
09-04-2012, 03:19 AM
Maybe Mac will get there shit together for this one build and add a nice graphics card?!?

tswalk
09-04-2012, 03:09 PM
A laptop with integrated graphics card.....


true, it was trash, but there's tons of others with options

cgbeige
09-04-2012, 09:26 PM
Maybe Mac will get there shit together for this one build and add a nice graphics card?!?

what do you mean? The MacBook Pros have good graphics cards. You don't need a mobile Quadro on OS X because Radeons and Geforces are officially supported for pro apps like Maya where they aren't in Windows or Linux. My 2011 MBP's Radeon 6770M works great with Maya 2013 and every other pro app I've used.

It's actually the best of both worlds. You get pro app support in OS X and if you want to play some games in Windows with Boot Camp, you have a gaming card.

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