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kurv
11-26-2003, 09:46 PM
Wordware Publishing would like to announce a new up coming title, LightWave 3D 8: 1001 Tips and Tricks!

This book has become more than a normal Wordware title to everyone here. It has truly become a labor of love and the focus has shifted from normal manuscript management to shaping the books "life" as the book has taken on a life of its own.

We started over a year ago with the idea to bring 15 of the best LightWave artists together on a book that would change the LightWave community. After signing 10 of the best, hands down artists in the industry, word of this book grew. Even though we have had NDA's in place people started emailing us wanting to be a part of this "special" book they heard a little bit about.

This book is going to change everything! As a publisher, we have done something that no other publisher would do, allow the authors to have complete control of the book. The entire book is a product of the wide range of talented authors. They created the books structure and have continued to mold it as NewTek updated us on LightWave 8.

To read more about this book please visit our LightWave 3D 8 1001 Tips and Tricks web site located at
www.wordware.com/tnt (http://www.wordware.com/tnt)

http://www.wordware.com/tnt/images/Tips-Cover-100.jpg

Thanks everyone!

proton
11-26-2003, 09:50 PM
I'm very excited about this book...I think we will all learn from all the talented artists that have contributed and see this as a must have for any LightWave user.

Looks like it will be just in time for us to user after we get some time to play with LW8....

xtrm3d
11-26-2003, 09:51 PM
sound really interesting ..
:applause:

Miyazaki
11-26-2003, 09:56 PM
Sweeet. The cover looks good. Is it full colored?

Steve Warner
11-26-2003, 11:04 PM
This is really a groundbreaking book. What makes it so unique is that it doesn't just pull from one person's knowledge or experience. It draws from thirty specialists, each who has written tips within their area of expertise. So you're not just getting tips about Rigging from someone who's done it once or twice. You're getting tips about rigging (and modeling, texturing, character animation, etc., etc., etc.) from people who specialize in those areas. People who, for the most part, do nothing but those things. And in that regard, this book is like your own personal team of LightWave experts who are there to help you with any project you're working on. Talk about a sweet deal!

A big thanks to Wes and to WordWare for making this fantastic resourse available! This and LightWave 8 are going to make for a very Merry Christmas. :)

chikega
11-26-2003, 11:35 PM
Hey, wait a minute ... you didn't call on me? hahah - looks like it's going to be a keeper:beer:

Larkin
11-26-2003, 11:45 PM
hee, pre-ordered already :)

wordwarepub, this is the third book of yours I have bought, have you ever though about setting up a little forum for readers to discuss their progress through the books?

...or is there one somewhere already :hmm:

any chance of a little teaser / taster from this one :p

eben
11-27-2003, 12:26 AM
looks great !!:drool:

is this book will be distributed in Europe?

regards,

Eben.

LittleFenris
11-27-2003, 04:38 AM
I just preordered the book. :buttrock:

-JT-
11-27-2003, 04:44 AM
This looks promising ! But as i said on the newtek forum i 'm not so found of the cover, it doesn't really appeal to me (not really pro for a book on pros), but as they say it's what's inside that counts.

kurv
11-27-2003, 04:49 AM
Thanks folks!!!

chikega, you did not email us :)

Larkin, thanks for your order.

eben, yes...about a month after it is released in the US.

VWTornado, thanks for your order as well.

New News Today

Just FYI, William "Proton" Vaughan has given us a $50.00 Tim Buck for every pre-order customer (William is also an author on the book BTW).

So if you pre-order, you now get:

25% off of any product at http://www.3dtrainingonline.com
$50.00 Tim Buck from NewTek
AND, a 40% off coupon from Wordware Publishing on any other books.

Thanks everyone :applause:

wgreenlee1
11-27-2003, 05:25 AM
Mrs. van der Byl's Biography



She is one of the very few people in existence that actually enjoys editing UV maps, as she find the mindless monotony of it a pleasant change from the chaos of creating stuff.


imagine that...leigh likes mindless monotonous stuff........lol:beer:

chrisWhite
11-27-2003, 05:36 AM
I think that had to be the quickest purchase decision I've ever made ;-) The book looks great, plus it will more then pay for it self with that Tim Buck (it’s not good for subscribing to Keyframe is it?). I do have to agree though that the cover doesn’t look like what I’d imagine, it seems it could be a lot more stunning and spectacular. More in the vain of Essential Lightwave, but then this is a small problem compared to all the great info I’m sure will be in the book. :thumbsup: Just my $0.02

:buttrock: :bounce: :buttrock:

kurv
11-27-2003, 06:36 AM
Sorry Larry, it was getting late and it's later now so I am going to hold off posting anything else until tomorrow or Friday :)

Thank you so much for your fantastic courses and for supporting us with your discounts!!!

SplineGod
11-27-2003, 06:45 AM
Thanks Wes!
The coolest thing about having my courses is seeing someone like yourself go from knowing nothing about the software to doing some excellent work in 3 weeks. Its very gratifying believe me. :)
Im VERY excited about this book. :bounce:

E_Moelzer
11-27-2003, 06:49 AM
Wow!
The list of authors reads like the "who is who" of the LW- community.
This will be very interesting. I will keep my eyes open.
Thanks to Wordware for making all this possible!
CU
Elmar

Nemoid
11-27-2003, 07:48 AM
With a list of great users like that, this book can't be other than a must- have!!!

Optimized for Lw [8] :drool:

P.S. I appreciated Leigh's biography when it says she started at an "obscenely young age " with computer. I started instead at an obscenely old age. circa 29!!! :eek:

Werner
11-27-2003, 10:14 AM
I'm very excited, and very sad at the same time about this book!

ARGH!...wish I could jump in on this.

I'll be keeping an eye out for the book, and well done to all the authors and Wes for doing soooo much for the LW community.

:buttrock:

Miyazaki
11-27-2003, 12:17 PM
@Wes
Will it be full colored?

Tommi
11-27-2003, 01:06 PM
Do the techniques from this book apply to LW 7 as well?

LittleFenris
11-27-2003, 02:18 PM
Originally posted by Tommi
Do the techniques from this book apply to LW 7 as well?

I've been using LW since 6.0 (ive even used 4.0 on an Amiga 4000) and basically LW hasn't changed much in all the more recent versions, with the exception of adding MORE AND MORE plugins and features to the program. I'm SURE this book will be perfectly appropriate for 7 as well, it will just have some extra features explained that will be [8] specific.

kurv
11-27-2003, 03:10 PM
Werner, if your schedule changes, call me :) we would be honored

Miyazaki, no to be able to keep the price down, it will be black and white, but the CD will be PACKED with cool stuff!! We are giving the authors free rein of their respective folders on the CD.

Tommi, I am glad you asked that. As we built this book I asked all the authors to write for version 7. Then as things in 8 were finalized we would update those tips for 8. Obviously there were things that did not translate to 8, so I asked them to LEAVE the tips for the older versions and amended those tips below for how to do the same thing in 8. Then we took the list of new items to version 8 and we are going to have a specific chapter on just 8's changes and how to use these new tools in the most effective way!

VWTornado, thanks!!

Also, I am working very hard on some bonus material that we will either produce in a three CD set or on DVD/DVD Rom. We are lining up sponsors so we can produce this material and give it away after the purchase. This is not final yet, but we are working very hard on it!!

LittleFenris
11-27-2003, 03:27 PM
Originally posted by wordwarepub
VWTornado, thanks!!

Wes,

Not a problem. I am wondering something...since I have this and your LW 7 Character animation books, will I gain anything from the Essentials book, or the LW 7.5 Lighting book? The Essentials book seems like it will be more helpful for me in the long run on my short film I am working on right now, but in the end, if I don't light this right, it will look like crap. :blush: (and i'm by no means a lighting guy). Any help is appreciated.

kurv
11-27-2003, 04:07 PM
VWTornado - the lighting book is a specialized book on just that, lighting. It teaches the theory, practice and implementation of lighting. Very specialized.

The Essentials book is a quick getting started guide to LightWave in general. From LW navigation to animation…

We also have a CGI Filmmaking book coming out based on the making of Tim Albee’s short film, Ghostwarrior

Ghost Warrior Site (http://www.wordware.com/ghostwarrior)

Be sure to use the discount we offer on our LW resource page. www.wordware.com/lightwave (http://www.wordware.com/lightwave)

Tommi
11-27-2003, 05:38 PM
Is there a way to preorder the book from Europe without credit card (I don't have one)? Maybe via "moneybookers" or are there any resellers in Europe?

little5points
11-27-2003, 07:08 PM
Is there a sample page?

I'm going to preorder but I'm wondering if it's set-up like tutorials or lists of quick tips or both.

just curious :)

SplineGod
11-27-2003, 10:18 PM
Im pretty excited to be contributing to this book. Its a great idea and I love the way Wordware has allowed the authors more free rein. Theres well over a century of combined experience going into this book. :)

kurv
11-28-2003, 07:18 AM
VWTornado – Shhhh, you can use the coupon you received for pre-ordering for more than one other book :) (it does not expire or limit you).

Tommi – you can order by check, we will ship the book when the check clears…and we wont cash the check or money order until the book is in.

little5points – not yet, but we will as soon as we can :) . Most of them are in a tip or trick style, but I have told all the authors that if there is an area that needs a longer based “tip” then write it. So some of them may be longer based on the authors specialty and if they feel the industry does not understand the technology.

SplineGod
11-28-2003, 09:39 PM
Originally posted by wordwarepub

little5points – not yet, but we will as soon as we can :) . Most of them are in a tip or trick style, but I have told all the authors that if there is an area that needs a longer based “tip” then write it. So some of them may be longer based on the authors specialty and if they feel the industry does not understand the technology.
I thought this was a good idea on the part of Wes to allow the authors a bit of latitude when writing their tips. :)

minus
11-29-2003, 12:24 AM
Let us know if you would be able to post a finalized... (or not so finalized) Index / Contents page so we can at least dream about what we will be learning tips about. =)

Off the top of your head can you think of any topics?

LittleFenris
11-29-2003, 04:52 PM
Originally posted by wordwarepub
VWTornado – Shhhh, you can use the coupon you received for pre-ordering for more than one other book :) (it does not expire or limit you).

How in-depth does the Essentials book get? That sample chapter (chp1) is too newbie even for me. I'm sure there is stuff in that chapter that I don't know, but for the most part scanning through it quickly its a very newbie chapter. How are the rest of the chapters?

If the Essentials book is more indepth maybe I'll just get both it and the Lighting book. :buttrock: I have the Digital Lighting book by New Riders but its not Lightwave specific...maybe a Lightwave specific one (like yours?) will give me more info that I need for LW specifically. I need anything that will help me with my short film, as I have never done anything this extensive before (ive done simple logo animations and stuff, but nothing really cool yet).

kretin
11-30-2003, 12:32 AM
Let us know if you would be able to post a finalized... (or not so finalized) Index / Contents page so we can at least dream about what we will be learning tips about. =)
There are tips on absolutely every aspect of LW. Whatever you're doing you should be able to look up that section and find tips that'll make life easier :)

I'm really looking forward to seeing the tips from the other guys on areas of LW that i don't often use, or types of 3D work that I don't often do.

vingolliang
11-30-2003, 03:55 AM
i want to see some sample

SplineGod
11-30-2003, 09:43 PM
Im with Kretin. Its going to be interesting not only to see what other authors who are specialists in various areas do but to see what other professionals who do the same time of work do differently. :)

Stranahan
11-30-2003, 11:18 PM
I think everyone will be very happy with the depth and breadth of information in the book.

mokba
12-01-2003, 12:56 AM
Wes, thanks for the pre-order notice and all the goodies that go with it. I just ordered and can't wait. This sounds like a title not to be missed. mokba

kurv
12-01-2003, 03:42 AM
Thanks everyone!

vingolliang - I will post some samples as soon as I can!

VWTornado - The Essentials book is designed to get you up to speed quickly on all aspects of LW. I will post a TOC for you ASAP.

minus - I will post what I "can"... I am not trying to keep it secret, but there are things that can not be posted yet. As soon as we can we will post things for you, trust me :)

kurv
12-01-2003, 10:56 PM
I thought I would post our author list, I think you will agree, the list we have makes this book the most comprehensive Tips and Tricks book ever written!

Timothy Albee
Gerald Abraham
Patrik Beck
Wes Beckwith
Deuce Bennett
Nicholas Boughen
Richard Brak
Jonny Gordon
Todd Grimes
Jennifer Hachigian
Erkki Halkka
Rich Helvey
Dale Hendrickson
David Jerrard
Geoffrey Kater
Arne Kaupang
Brad Krause
Carl Merritt
Mike Pauza
Rob Powers
Emanuele Salvucci
Larry Shultz
Lee Stranahan
Leigh van der Byl
William Vaughan
Steve Warner
Scott Wheeler
Policarpo
Robin Wood

We have some bio’s of these authors on our web site - www.wordware.com/tnt (http://www.wordware.com/tnt)

LOR
12-02-2003, 01:49 AM
Yep, yep. It's going to be a great book!

First we.....wait, that's a secret. Can't tell you. Anyway after that we......no wait, that's a secret too.

Well, I could tell you that all the tips I've seen so far are not only going to propel you into a new realm of "wavin', but they'll also teach you new ways of thinking about how to use LightWave.....but then I'd have to shoot you.

;D

Nick

kurv
12-02-2003, 02:57 PM
Just thought I would post some information about Nicholas Boughen that impressed the heck out of me...

Nick - I was tasked with what was thought to be the impossible job of matchmoving 500 talking dog-head shots for this feature. There was no existing technology other than the age-old technique of sticking the geometry on the background plate and keyframing it one frame at a time to match up.
Over the course of several months, I developed a technology and trained a team of eight artists to output a minimum of 20 shots per week averaging 80 frames per shot. If you have ever done any animal matchmoving, you’ll know that a team of eight producing 20 shots per week seems ridiculous. Nonetheless, we attained this goal, and in one banner week produced 36 matchmoves. It was a combination of some really good R&D time, the refusal to believe that it couldn’t be done better and faster, and a seriously dedicated team, not to mention unequivocal support and commitment from Rainmaker’s management staff, especially our Digital Supervisor Jason Dowdeswell (previously of ILM) and our Director of Digital Imaging Brian Moylan. Faced with the option of out-sourcing 500 matchmoves, I’d imagine our team saved Rainmaker considerable expense by keeping the work in-house. The company now sports a matchmoving team and technology capable of matchmoving anything anywhere, probably faster and better than anyone else in the world. That may be boasting, but I’d stack our team up against anyone.

We are honored to have Nick as one of the Tips and Tricks authors.

You can read more about Nick at www.wordware.com/tnt (http://www.wordware.com/tnt)

Mike Pauza
12-02-2003, 03:30 PM
Maybe this book should be called "The LightWave Pocket Encyclopedia"? Buying it is a no brainer. Where else can you get the very best secrets of 30 experts all in 1 place for the price of just 1 book? No where, that's where.

I'm very excited to be part of this project, and can't wait to get my grubby hands on the entire book.


-Mike Pauza (3DPhysicist)

LittleFenris
12-02-2003, 04:11 PM
Wes, when will this book be out? I already preordered and I'm itching to get it! :bounce:

LOR
12-02-2003, 04:17 PM
We are honored to have Nick as one of the Tips and Tricks authors.

You can read more about Nick at www.wordware.com/tnt (http://www.wordware.com/tnt)


Shoot! Wes is telling all my secrets. Now they're gonna want me to have RESPONSIBILITY!

All I wanna do is 'wave!

:thumbsup:

Nick

kurv
12-02-2003, 04:18 PM
Thank you VWTornado!!!

We are really working our butts off to get it out in Feb. But if it would make the book better to get it out in March we will hold off. Right now we are all working on getting things setup for 8 and making sure we do a good job of covering it.

As I have said the only instruction I gave the authors was to write for 7.5 and when we get 8 make sure those items work in 8. If they do not work in 8, I asked them to write a new tip or trick explaining how the previous tip or trick works in 8.

So this book will truly hit a broad audience being backwards compatible with 7.5 and the most compatible book available for 8 coming out!

NewTek has been VERY helpful with us on this book.

Steve Warner
12-02-2003, 05:41 PM
Originally posted by VWTornado
Wes, your book covers are pretty bad considering the talent inside the books. New Riders Publishing makes VERY nice.
Shaun (and everyone else who has commented on the cover), I'd like to address this. Each author is responsible for providing imagery for the cover of their book. In the case of Tips and Tricks book, there are 30 authors. As an author and editor on the book, Wes turned to me to tackle the cover.

I am an award-winning graphic designer with more than ten years of experience. In that time, I have designed book covers, product manuals, instructional guides and CD covers. I have illustrated entire books, and have worked as the lead artist on a number of national advertising campaigns. As a designer and an artist, I am a minimalist. I believe that every element in design should have a purpose and I believe that good design is more about concepts and ideas than pretty pictures. This cover is a conceptual piece of minimalist design, and not a singular work of 3D art. In that regard, I believe that it is strong and successful.

I approached Wes with this concept and told him that I wanted to do something drastically different. Something conceptual and something with a sense of humor. It was a risk, but Wes took a chance and went with it.

Here is the creative rationale that I gave to Wes:

Tips and tricks are a form of wisdom. That wisdom is coming from those who have "arrived." Those who are enlightened. And it is being imparted to those who are still on the path. To those who seek enlightenment.

The buddah figure represents all LightWave users. There are three distinct (but subtle) parts to him. They are the feet, the hands, and the head. If you look closely, you'll see that the feet are more detailed than other parts of the body. They're more worn. The feet represent those who have walked the path for some time. They are experienced users, but they are still seeking knowledge. The hands are slightly less detailed than the feet. They are still mature, but not as time-worn. The hands represent the intermediate users who are still learning. Those who have an element of experience, but have not yet grasped all that the software has to offer. Finally, if you look at the head, it shows the least amount of wear. It is the face of a young child, and it represents the new users. Those who have very little experience with the software at all. These three parts, the head, hands, and feet, represent LightWave users at all stages. And in this one body, they signify that all users can benefit from the wisdom that this book imparts.

If you look at the buddah character, you will see that he is holding the LightWave logo. The swirl of the LightWave logo, reminiscent of primitive drawings (which themselves represent spirituality and life (http://www.rotten.com/library/occult/sacred-geometry/)), is held at the center of the character. The inside tip of the LightWave swirl leads you directly the belly-button of the character. The belly button is the source of life and nourishment for us as we develop. And the significance here is that LightWave is a source of life for us. And it provides us with the nourishment we need as we grow as artists.

Moving to the bottom of the book, you see the list of authors. These are the "ascended masters." Those who have attained enlightment and are now reaching back to those still on the path to aid them in their growth. This "reaching back" is visually represented by the light of fire (a biblical symbol of wisdom and spirituality (Acts 2:3)) seen at the lower right corner of the book. This fire is bursting out from the authors, winding up in a reverse "S" pattern through the title of the book, and coming up to encompass the character. From there, it encircles the LightWave logo and the center of the character's being (seen in the faint circle). Finally, it comes in contact with the character's head. This progress signifies the path that the tips and tricks - the knowledge - take on their way to impacting the reader. It starts with the authors. They impart their wisdom. That wisdome comes to us through the book (represented here by the title). It impacts the reader at his center, feeding his desire for LightWave. Once ingested, the information in this book sparks his mind, and he is enlightened. Simply put, the wisdom of the masters is imparted to us, enlightening even the youngest LightWave user.

It's the subtle symbology that makes me so fond of this piece. There's a lot there. More than meets the eye at a casual glance. But like any good piece of art, the more you look, the more you can derive from it.

Here is our cover:

http://www.wordware.com/tnt/images/Tips-Cover-300.jpg

It has a subtle, quiet dignity. And it has a strong concept. It is not a framegrab from some Hollywood production. But not everyone on the Tips book works in Hollywood. I produce Air Combat Training Simulations for a large government contractor. Carl Merrit works for a college. So does Leigh. We all work with LightWave and we all have knowledge to impart. This cover is about passing that knowledge on.

I told Wes that this was a risky cover. And he trusted me with it. If you are unhappy with the cover, do not blame Wes. And do not blame Wordware. Blame me.

Best regards,

Steve

kurv
12-02-2003, 06:18 PM
VWTornado - You are exactly correct. Up until a few months ago though their was nothing I could do about the covers, I was the developmental editor here. But now that I am the publisher at Wordware I am really making the covers one of my top priorities.

The cover of the lighting book, I thought looked very good. Not as nice as the essentials book, but then again the cheetah on that cover is one of the best models I have EVER seen.

I do understand what you are saying and I am working VERY hard on the covers we do. You can expect three things from Wordware in the future.

1. The best CG books in the world!!
2. The best authors found anywhere!!!
3. The best covers of any publisher…period!

Thanks for your note about them. We (Wordware) do not take it as a slam or bashing. We took it as a concerned reader/customer wanting to see us improve and we listen to you!

Thank you for your honesty!!! :bowdown:

Please know that we are working on this...daily!! :beer:

Mike Pauza
12-02-2003, 06:34 PM
I personally like Steve's cover a lot. IMO it's unique, well done, and feels authoritative. Plus I really like blue.

Covers do affect sales, but most people have become savy enough to buy books by looking at what's inside it. Hehe. My brother and I both independantly bought the same LW book a while back (at bookstores 500 miles apart) because the cover and graphic design were impressive. We got our books home and quickly discovered we had just thrown away $50. Never again.


-Mike Pauza (3DPhysicist)

LOR
12-02-2003, 06:45 PM
Originally posted by VWTornado
Honestly the book cover is the entire reason I haven't bought the book already.

Proving unequivocally that you can, in fact, judge a book by its cover.

;)

Nick

kurv
12-02-2003, 07:08 PM
The lighting cover for example isn't the greatest model in the world, and the lighting isn't all that dramatic (especially for a lighting book). No offense to any of the artists, as the content inside the books I own(or have seen) are much better than the covers. Being an artist, I guess I sometimes place too much on the "look" of a cover or book in general than the actual content inside (which you can't really see on Amazon or Wordwares site, or any website for that matter). The only time you can see the book is better than its cover is when its at a Barnes and Noble so you can pick it up and look in it. Other than that, the cover is VERY important in grabbing attention and interest.

VWTornado, if you only knew the artists you are critiquing on that cover, I think you would be shocked (their were three involved). The experience their combined is…to say the least...amazing. I think that the Lighting book is the best cover we have done after the Essentials book which came out later. IMHO ... If you pick up that book, you might want to read who provided the cover model... (I was impressed)...

Steve Warner
12-02-2003, 07:14 PM
Shaun, don't let the cover of Nick's lighting book hold you back. It's really outstanding. Nick has a warm writing style that makes it easy to read. The information is thorough, logically broken down and supplemented with plenty of illustrations. Best of all, the material, while specific to LightWave, is not limited to LW. I did a photo shoot yesterday and used some of the principles from Nick's book to help light the set and color it with gels. Turned out great. I've got several books on lighting and this is by far the best of the bunch. If you live near a B&N or Borders, go in and check it out.

Cheers,

Steve

LOR
12-02-2003, 07:21 PM
Originally posted by Steve Warner
I've got several books on lighting and this is by far the best of the bunch. If you live near a B&N or Borders, go in and check it out.

Cheers,

Steve

Gosh, thanks Steve! I'm glad you find the book useful.

(I'll slip you your $5 later) :cool:

Nick

-JT-
12-02-2003, 07:37 PM
I didn't like the cover, i think the idea is very good (your explanation is interesting and honest Steve), i like the colors but i think the character isn't well done, his torso looks really "long" and boxy, his hands don't hold the logo "naturally".
Again it's the inside that counts but here, i'm sorry, it wouldn't be "front page material" as people say...
No one to blame, just opinions expressed.

proton
12-02-2003, 08:00 PM
I kinda liked the model on the Lighting cover ;)

I've heard many nice things about that model and I thought the lighting looked good on it :)

LOR
12-02-2003, 08:34 PM
Originally posted by proton
I kinda liked the model on the Lighting cover ;)

I've heard many nice things about that model and I thought the lighting looked good on it :)

I've had tons of great responses about the cover. But there's no question you can't please everybody. That was a terrific model on the cover. Who did that again?.......

;)

Nick

projectcoil
12-02-2003, 08:49 PM
Originally posted by Steve Warner
http://www.wordware.com/tnt/images/Tips-Cover-300.jpg

It looks like an alien child more than buddha if you ask me. :shrug:

LOR
12-02-2003, 08:55 PM
Originally posted by VWTornado
Then why did you change your avatar from the book cover graphic today? ;) :p

Why to celebrate my new Daughter Katherine Cecilia Boughen who is featured in my new avatar. Thanks for noticing! Cigars all around!

As for the book being plugged by my friends. I know Steve and Proton by reputation, but I've never met them. I spoke to Proton once, but he was too busy with a TV crew and had to hang up on me. :p

There's no conspiracy here to make you buy a bad book. If you think you need a little help with your lighting, I promise the book will help you. If you're already a lighting god, then it probably won't be much use to you so you shouldn't waste your money.....or you could always wait for the 2nd edition. :cool:

Seriously though, your remarks are noted. Constructive criticism is always welcome and appreciated. Cover art is very important, no question about it. We'll try to win you over next time around.

Nick

proton
12-02-2003, 09:00 PM
I really didn't have a crew here it's what I tell everyone that I don't want to talk to :)


Actually they had me on the local news which is weird cuz all my neighbors think I'm famous or wanted :P


The lighting book is amazing...I read it on one of my trips and was quite suprised that it wasn't just a LW book but a book about lighting.....If you do a search in the forums you will find some threads about the book and get to read what many others have said about the book....

kurv
12-02-2003, 09:20 PM
Actually they had me on the local news which is weird cuz all my neighbors think I'm famous or wanted :P

Their he goes again delusions of granger...

VWTornado - seriously, the authors/artists are not bashing you either. Art is subjective, and very personal. You have to look at it, not in a judging manor but try to see what the artist is attempting to tell you.

Yes we could have used someone’s art done for a project, or someone’s art that was not even associated with the book as most publishers do. But I choose to have a guy who I hold in the highest regard do the art work. What he has done has a personal touch and while it is still not final yet, we like it :) .

Okay enough on the cover, I just got some more information from one of the authors. I will post it here in a minute.

kurv
12-02-2003, 09:41 PM
Geoffrey Kater is one of the authors on the LightWave 3D 8: 1001 Tips and Tricks book. Below is his biography that shows you why we are so excited to have someone like Geoffrey working with us on this book.

Starting in1992 Geoffrey’s formal education is from the Art Center College of Design in Pasadena, CA. where he studied Transportation Design and worked on automotive designs for companies like Honda, American Steele and JPL. Such collaboration brought early success as a Two-time National Industrial Design Competitions winner and 2 year SEMA scholarship recipient with published works in Business Week, Car Styling and Popular Hot Rodding.

His love for automobiles and futuristic worlds landed him a job in 1995 working as a prop designer on the Emmy Award winning show “Where On Earth Is Carmen San Diego”. After a 3 month stint on “Carmen”, he was hired at Saban Entertainment as the lead prop designer on a futuristic sci-fi show “Bureau of Alien Detectors”. Geoffrey spent the next 2 years working on in-house production as well as development.

In 1997 he became the lead Space Ship designer on the “Silver Surfer” animated series where he spent a bulk of the production modeling and animating his space ships for the entire first season. To him there could be no greater form of creative control.

From 1995 to 1998 some of his other production design credits include “The New Avengers”, “Mummies Alive”, “Street Sharks” and “Casper a Spirited Beginning”.

In November 1998 Geoffrey left Saban Entertainment to start his own design/animation company, One Pen, Inc. During the first year he was heavily involved in designing and developing a new game show for The Fox Family Channel’s Reality Game Show division, he was also the Lead Animation Designer/Modeler for Steve Oedekerk’s “Thumb Wars” and developed 3D animated Main Title Sequences for Fox Kids.

November 1999 was the start of S4 Studios, LLC. in Van Nuys CA., a new venture. Geoffrey teamed up with old pal, 20 year animation veteran Dale Hendrickson whom was credited with Art Direction and CG Producer credits from the “Silver Surfer”. Over the last 4 years, Geoffrey has produced countless CGI shows, movie trailers and now commercials. He also directed 6 online animated webisodes for Sony Playstations “Twisted Metal: Black”.

As a 4 year old CG animation company now located in Hollywood CA., S4 Studios, LLC. continues to deliver high quality, diverse CGI animated projects for clients such as the Cartoon Network, Disney, and MGM. Recent works can be seen at www.s4studios.com.

More author highlights to come!!

read more at
www.wordware.com/tnt (http://www.wordware.com/tnt)

LittleFenris
12-02-2003, 10:25 PM
Sounds like the people you got for this book are REALLY experienced at what they do. Can't wait to get my pre-ordered copy!! :buttrock:

leigh
12-02-2003, 11:14 PM
Hey, on the subject of the lighting book - all I can say is it's AWESOME! Nick has a great writing style, and he really knows what he's talking about too ;)
I'd recommend that book to anyone who is seriously about learning about lighting, which is such an important (although often sadly overlooked) facet of 3D.

And as for this tips and tricks book... well all I can say is I was bullied into it and they are holding my family hostage until I spill all my secrets :cry:
Hehehe just kidding! Working on this book is a lot of fun, and I think it's really great that Wes rounded up all of us and asked us to do this. There are many years of experience from all corners of this industry going into this book, and I'm sure it'll be quite the masterful tome when it's complete :D

Of course I've been writing so much that I've started to dream in MS Word templates. Not that I have much time for sleep these days!

LOR
12-02-2003, 11:32 PM
Originally posted by Leigh
Of course I've been writing so much that I've started to dream in MS Word templates. Not that I have much time for sleep these days!

Amen!

PS, your five bucks is in the mail :beer:

Nick

LittleFenris
12-02-2003, 11:35 PM
Nick, congrats on the baby! (or baby in waiting hehe) Nice avatar. :D

kurv
12-03-2003, 03:14 AM
Rob Powers is one of the authors on the LightWave 3D 8: 1001 Tips and Tricks book. I have attached a little information about Rob that shows you why we are so excited to have someone of his caliber working with us on this book.

Robert Powers graduated from the University of Southern California Cinema/Television program and attended the American Film Institute. He created animation and effects for a wide range of TV series and feature films, including Disney’s “Honey I Shrunk the Kids”, HBO’s “The Sender”, “Voltron: The Third Dimension”, Destination Films' feature “BATS”, and MGM’s “Disturbing Behavior”. For the Emmy-award-winning television show, “Ally McBeal”, Robert developed many of the key effects for the first season and was a lead animator of the famous 3D baby.

Robert’s articles and tutorials have been published in leading industry magazines worldwide. As Supervising Animator, he worked on the animated television series “Max Steele” at NDEI for Sony Television and Warner Brothers. In the summer of 2000, Robert led a team of professionals in Shanghai, China and built a world-class animation facility from the ground up in conjunction with the World Famous Shanghai Film Studios.

In 2001 Robert served as Animation Supervisor on the prime time Steven King Mini-Series “Rose Red” at Kleiser-Walczak. Additionally, the Emmy nominated opening for the "NORM" show created by the talented team at Autonomy included Robert's 3D lighting work. Throughout 2002, Robert worked on multiple national commercial campaigns including the recent “Men in Black II” Burger King “Alien” spots and the Volkswagen “Avalanche” campaign. On MTV you can see Robert’s work in Britney Spears’ music video “Boyz” and Papa Roach’s “She Loves Me Not” for which Robert did on-set effects supervision. Most recently Robert completed an animated pilot Character Animation test for Walt Disney Television and has combined forces with the veteran animation and effects company CLU to form IGNITE/CLU, a high-end animation and effects boutique in Glendale, CA.
www.igniteclu.com (http://www.igniteclu.com)

More author highlights to come!

read more at www.wordware.com/tnt (http://www.wordware.com/tnt)

dark_lotus
12-03-2003, 08:02 PM
As a technical editor for the book, its such a privilege to work with such talented people. Some of these tips, I already follow like commandments. In fact most of the tips i've read so far are stuff that you'll hang on to for the rest of your animating timeline!

To the populous you HAVE to get this, I cannot stress enough how incredibly awesome this book is, You don't even need to have lightwave 8 to reap the full benefits.

Its so great too, that the authors decided to let a rookie like me in on all the action, you guys are awesome!!

The book is really going to give people that edge, that everyone strives for in their artwork.

Mechis
12-05-2003, 12:35 AM
I was wondering if hard-surface modelling or architectural modelling tips would be included.
Thanks!

SplineGod
12-05-2003, 12:40 AM
Originally posted by Mechis
I was wondering if hard-surface modelling or architectural modelling tips would be included.
Thanks!

Hi Mechis,
Speaking for myself I will have some tips on some of that.
With the amount of people working on this book and the diverse backgrounds I would be VERY suprised not to see quite a few tips on that. :) Im sure Wes or one of the other editors on the book could give you a better heads up on that. :)

Richard Brak
12-05-2003, 11:13 AM
Just thought I would let you know there is definitely at least one on the author list. So if you want some really nasty brain straining tips I suggest you get this book!

Richard ;)

SplineGod
12-05-2003, 09:45 PM
Richard is another reason why Im glad Im involved with this book. Ive used his site as a resource on more then one ocassion. :)

Richard Brak
12-06-2003, 07:05 AM
Originally posted by SplineGod
Richard is another reason why Im glad Im involved with this book. Ive used his site as a resource on more then one ocassion. :)

... and visa versa! :beer:

LittleFenris
12-06-2003, 05:36 PM
Richard, you got a link to your site? I'm interested in checking out after SplineGods comment. :beer:

chrisWhite
12-06-2003, 06:24 PM
I'm not Richard, but his profile says it's here:

http://www.richardbrak.net/

Richard Brak
12-06-2003, 10:52 PM
Originally posted by VWTornado
Richard, you got a link to your site? I'm interested in checking out after SplineGods comment. :beer:

I think Larry might also be referring to the Expressions Glossary (http://www.lightwaveoz.org/brainiac.php).

SplineGod
12-06-2003, 10:57 PM
Originally posted by Richard Brak
I think Larry might also be referring to the Expressions Glossary (http://www.lightwaveoz.org/brainiac.php).

Yes, he might be.. ;)

kurv
12-08-2003, 04:54 PM
Well I wanted to post more about some of our authors.

As you may or may not know Policarpo is one of our authors on the tips and tricks book.

What can I say about Policarpo that if you visit this forum, even occasionally you do not know about him.

I was most impressed with his artistic vision and ability to take something and make it outstanding. His work is so unique and stands out with a particular style.

Here is Policarpo’s bio:

A Visual Designer from Austin, Texas, Policarpo has been involved with digital image making for over 10 years. With a background in Interactive Media, UI design, Studio Art, Literature, and Illustration, he brings a unique vision to projects with a keen eye on altering the perception of expectations. A closet surrealist by nature, he welcomes invitations to discuss the weather and its effects on dreams and creativity when studied from afar through ancient telescopes once handled by Galileo. Feel free to drop him a line at visual.design@policarpo.us, or visit him online at www.policarpo.us (http://www.policarpo.us) .

We are extremely excited to have someone of this caliber working on this project and we hope it leads to more projects in the future!

Thank Policarpo!

Here is what Policarpo had to say about this book:

"I've always loved LightWave's ease of use, and with this book, you see how even complicated tasks are easy to achieve in LightWave._It's awesome to see so many talented LightWave artists in one volume, sharing their knowledge and passion for LightWave with others.

There is so much talent and knowledge on these pages that I just can't wait for people to have access to it."

Read more information about the LightWave 8: 1001 Tips and Tricks book here
www.wordware.com/tnt (http://www.wordware.com/tnt)

kurv
12-08-2003, 10:08 PM
Author Information:

Brad Krause is one of the authors on the LightWave 3D 8: 1001 Tips and Tricks book we are producing.

Brad Krause has worked in print production, graphic design and illustration in Milwaukee, WI since 1988._With a traditional print background, he switched from airbrush, keylines and draftsmanship to 3d in 1994, picking up LightWave 5.0 on the MacIntosh 3 years later.

Currently his 3d skills are mainly at the service of traditional print businesses. Projects include point-of-purchase pre-visualization, product illustration and illustration for packaging, and multimedia, and he is currently employed as manager and lead artist for a major POP company in Wisconsin.

On the side he models and animates for local freelance clients and a number of personal projects.

You can view his on-line portfolio at http://www.radiance-media.com

You can also read an interview with Brad Krause by William "Proton" Vaughan here http://www.cgfocus.com/ArticleDetails.cfm?ArticleID=232

Brad is an incredible artists and we are honored to have him work on this book.

You can read more about Brad and this book here - www.wordware.com/tnt (http://www.wordware.com/tnt)

SplineGod
12-08-2003, 11:43 PM
This is an AWESOME group of people to be working with on this book. Group HUGS! :bowdown:

kevman3d
12-09-2003, 09:33 AM
Less Hugs, more work please so we can see this cool book on the shelf asap! :)

Looking awesome dudes... Can't wait!

kurv
12-09-2003, 02:49 PM
Thanks Kevman3d, if things go well I MAY have a new surprise to post... Hopefully soon!!

LittleFenris
12-09-2003, 02:51 PM
Originally posted by wordwarepub
Thanks Kevman3d, if things go well I MAY have a new surprise to post... Hopefully soon!!

please please please!! I want this now!! :bounce:

chrisWhite
12-09-2003, 03:37 PM
Wes, you have to stop posting these bios, I can't stand not waiting and your just making it worse :drool:

No don't really stop, please keep posting, but not at the expense of the book's ship date. :applause:

Steve Warner
12-09-2003, 03:37 PM
Originally posted by wordwarepub
If things go well I MAY have a new surprise to post...
Oohh!! I can't wait!! :love:

SplineGod
12-10-2003, 10:29 AM
Originally posted by wordwarepub
Thanks Kevman3d, if things go well I MAY have a new surprise to post... Hopefully soon!!

Hmmm...tell us! :)

kurv
12-11-2003, 11:31 PM
Originally posted by wordwarepub
Thanks Kevman3d, if things go well I MAY have a new surprise to post... Hopefully soon!!

Well sorry to do this just before 5:30 pm but this to big not to post as soon as I knew.

I just got off the phone with a person who has the following projects under their belt...and they are writing for the LightWave 3D: 1001 Tips and Tricks book.

Lets see, feature films:

The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen
The Core
Spy Kids II
HULK
Panic Room
Impostor
The One
Megiddo: The Omega Code 2
Battlefield Earth
Dracula 2000
Crow III : Salvation

should I go on....

Fever
Armageddon
Barney's Great Adventure
Flubber
Wishmaster

it goes on...and on....


and who is this person you might ask...well I will let you look at the Wordware sites (http://www.wordware.com/tnt) author list and see if you notice a new name.

anyone.... :)

I will float home now...thank you...

This book is going to so totally...and completly rock!!!! :bowdown:

So, we will be taking pre orders here (http://www.wordware.com/tnt), thank you :)

leigh
12-12-2003, 01:04 AM
Errrr I'm not sure that I see any new name there... or maybe I'm blind tonight.

Steve Warner
12-12-2003, 01:14 AM
Oooh!! Ooh! I see it! :bounce:

Initials D.E.!!!

Man, Wes, you've pulled together quite the author list! This is going to be one smokin' book!

leigh
12-12-2003, 01:28 AM
Aaah I see it now.
Sorry it's been a long day :blush:

Pi3141
12-12-2003, 03:08 AM
Mr Ebner!!! Amazing Wes, this book is going to rock:buttrock:

kurv
12-12-2003, 04:26 PM
I have a few more tricks up my sleeve to reveal... when it's time..

Mommhahaha ha ha ha ha...!!

kurv
12-12-2003, 10:58 PM
Well I wanted to officially welcome PiSong and Christophe Desse to the incredible list of authors. Both of these amazing authors bring even more specialized experience to this book and broaden our appeal in various areas.

We are so excited to have them on board.

Thanks Christophe and PiSong!!!

Steve Warner
12-12-2003, 11:20 PM
Woo hoo! It keeps getting better and better! :bounce:

Pi3141
12-12-2003, 11:58 PM
Thanks :) Glad to be aboard.

Saddle up partner :beer:

chrisWhite
12-13-2003, 12:35 AM
:buttrock: :buttrock: :buttrock:

AndrewE
12-13-2003, 03:52 AM
OMG!

Seriously, OMG!

kurv
12-13-2003, 05:49 PM
New author list (complete).

Timothy Albee
Gerald Abraham
Patrik Beck
Wes Beckwith
Jack "Deuce" Bennett
Nicholas Boughen
Richard Brak
Christophe Desse
David Ebner
Jonny Gordon
Todd Grimes
Jennifer Hachigian
Erkki Halkka
Rich Helvey
Dale Hendrickson
David Jerrard
Geoffrey Kater
Arne Kaupang
Brad Krause
PiSong
Carl Merritt
Mike Pauza
Rob Powers
Emanuele Salvucci
Larry Shultz
Lee Stranahan
Leigh van der Byl
William "Proton" Vaughan
Steve Warner
Scott Wheeler
Policarpo
Robin Wood

kurv
12-17-2003, 04:50 AM
We are so very pleased to have Steve Warner working with us at Wordware. What can I say about Steve? Steve is the type of guy that would help anyone and not get frustrated, even after the dumbest of questions...I know I have asked them. Steve is a true friend and in the top 1% of the modeling artists I have seen. When we initially saw the work Steve was doing we were simply amazed. We called a few other people to be sure our amazement was justified…and it was.

Here is a bit more information on Steve Warner…

Born and raised in Yuma, Arizona, Steve Warner created his first computer animation in 1982 on a Timex Sinclair 1000. “I was in sixth grade,” he recalls. “My teacher, Mike Foree, was a visionary. He helped our class purchase a computer for $100. This was back in the days when a computer in the classroom was the exception and not the rule. The Timex computer had rudimentary graphics and a whopping 2k of memory. There were no disk drives. To save your work, you had to record audio signals onto a cassette tape. It was insane. Pac Man had come out a few years earlier, and like everyone else, I had the Fever. I wanted to create an animation based on that game, so I wrote a program that used creative routines to turn characters on and off while moving them across the screen. It was a simple animation, but it worked. From that point on, I was hooked on making computer graphics.”

In 1993 Steve graduated from The University of Arizona with a BFA in Fine Art and went on to found Trinity Media, Inc. TMI provided Graphic Design, Broadcast Video Post Production and 3D Animation to advertising agencies and corporate clients throughout the region. In the eight years that followed, TMI provided media production services to such clients as The Young Astronauts Council of NASA, AlphaGraphics Printshops of the Future, The Milwaukee Brewins, The United States Army, The United States Border Patrol and The United States Department of Justice.

The dawn of the new century brought with it new challenges for Steve. “I hit a point where I was spending more time running the business than creating artwork. As a creative person, that was painful. I had to make a decision. Either I was going to become a full-time businessperson so that the company could continue to grow, or I was going to seek out a more creative position with another company. It was a hard choice, but I chose to move on.”

In the Fall of 2001, Steve took a job with CAE, an international supplier of military training and simulation services. He has spent the past two years working for CAE’s Courseware Development Team at Davis-Monthan Air Force Base in Tucson, Arizona. “You know, it’s interesting. At TMI, I worked as a producer. My focus was always on the big picture. But at CAE, I work as a specialist. I’m still designing and still animating, but the work is much more detailed, and it’s given me the opportunity to really hone my skills as an artist.”

In addition to his work as an author and Series Editor on LightWave 3D 8: 1001 Tips and Tricks, Steve is working with Timothy Albee on the update to Essential LightWave and authoring the upcoming book LightWave 3D 8 Modeling, A Definitive Guide, which is due out in 2004.

Thanks Steve, you are truly one of a kind…

Pi3141
12-17-2003, 05:12 AM
Let's hear it for Steve

:applause: :applause: :applause:

I'm with Wes on this one, you rock my friend


:buttrock:

Steve Warner
12-17-2003, 02:55 PM
Oh my gosh... Thanks!! :love: I'm really honored and humbled by such kind words. All I can say is I have been helped of many, and feel blessed that I can help others in return.

LittleFenris
12-18-2003, 02:33 PM
Originally posted by Pi3141
Let's hear it for Steve

:applause:

I'm with Wes on this one, you rock my friend


:buttrock:

I agree completely. :buttrock: :beer:

Cman
12-18-2003, 03:41 PM
Good on ya, Steve! :beer:

chrisWhite
12-19-2003, 12:36 AM
You rock indeed :buttrock:

Can't wait to learn some of your secrets from the master of modeling! :bounce:

kurv
12-30-2003, 03:57 PM
Just got the tips and tricks in from William "Proton" Vaughan. I think the last tip in his manuscript says it all...

"If you’re in the bookstore reading this book, buy it. It will be one of the best investments you can make. There are years of experience in this book and it will become your favorite secret weapon."

William "Proton" Vaughan

Just thought I would pass this along...

Thanks William!!

LittleFenris
12-30-2003, 04:07 PM
Originally posted by wordwarepub
"If you’re in the bookstore reading this book, buy it. It will be one of the best investments you can make. There are years of experience in this book and it will become your favorite secret weapon."

Well, considering I preordered it the day you posted this, I'm just waiting for the book to come to my doorstep!!! :bounce:

kurv
12-30-2003, 04:11 PM
We are working very hard to get it out... considering the news of Lightwave last week...that affects our book as well... BUT... since William got his tips in the rest should follow right behind him... :)

I am hoping to have this book out VERY soon...our production team can get a book out faster than any other publisher... :thumbsup:

Petrik
12-31-2003, 06:23 AM
My wife will kill me for buying yet another book. What with having no job and therefore income I'm surprised she let me tick the last one up to the visa the other day. (Essential Lightwave, from a local store here). I may not be be able to pre order but I'll be getting it when it comes out, money or no money the bank can pay. So make sure you print an extra copy for me.

I'm surprised people are worried about the look of the cover. No offence to cover designers, but who cares what the cover looks like like? It's the information inside that counts.

kurv
12-31-2003, 06:43 AM
Originally posted by Petrik
My wife will kill me for buying yet another book. What with having no job and therefore income I'm surprised she let me tick the last one up to the visa the other day. (Essential Lightwave, from a local store here). I may not be be able to pre order but I'll be getting it when it comes out, money or no money the bank can pay. So make sure you print an extra copy for me.

I'm surprised people are worried about the look of the cover. No offence to cover designers, but who cares what the cover looks like like? It's the information inside that counts.

Hey, thank you... watch for some contests and you just might win one!!!

Email me at wbeckwith@wordware.com and request to be on the contest list. I will email you when we post contests.

Thanks again!!

cerreto
12-31-2003, 06:52 PM
I was Considering doing a strictly character design and modeling workbook with a few friends basicly taking about 5 character from concpet model sheets all the way through finshed 3 d model no rigging or animating just a fun book to work from touching on animal human creature anatomy etc


1 would everyone be interested in a book like this

2 would you be interested in publishing such a book just curious





all the work of mine on the web at current is from when i was learning lw and is crap!I've been working no time to update or post on the web but my studio is moving and im not so i should have free time

proton
12-31-2003, 07:57 PM
Originally posted by cerreto

1 would everyone be interested in a book like this




I'm interested :)

kurv
12-31-2003, 08:49 PM
Originally posted by cerreto
I was Considering doing a strictly character design and modeling workbook with a few friends basicly taking about 5 character from concpet model sheets all the way through finshed 3 d model no rigging or animating just a fun book to work from touching on animal human creature anatomy etc


1 would everyone be interested in a book like this

2 would you be interested in publishing such a book just curious





all the work of mine on the web at current is from when i was learning lw and is crap!I've been working no time to update or post on the web but my studio is moving and im not so i should have free time

Email me your idea or proposal at wbeckwith@wordware.com please, thanks!!

kevman3d
12-31-2003, 08:52 PM
Originally posted by Petrik
I'm surprised she let me tick the last one up to the visa the other day. (Essential Lightwave, from a local store here).

Was that Borders? Man, hope not (I saw a copy there for almost NZ$160) - I AM surprised given how expensive the WordWare books have been here in NZ - The 'LightWave Lighting' book is over NZ$180 here (for an A5 size book? Almost $200! Borders is a major rip-off in pricing). I would have thought the low exchange rate would have made that cheaper! :eek:

Seriously, I would probably suggest if you want to buy books right now, you're more then likely going to SAVE money by buying from amazon.com (its where I get most my stuff from - I just got the 'Firefly' series on DVD (Brilliant) and it only came to NZ$70 (with shipping!) for a 4 dvd set))

Scarey stuff, eh...

kurv
12-31-2003, 09:15 PM
Originally posted by kevman3d
Was that Borders? Man, hope not (I saw a copy there for almost NZ$160) - I AM surprised given how expensive the WordWare books have been here in NZ - The 'LightWave Lighting' book is over NZ$180 here (for an A5 size book? Almost $200! Borders is a major rip-off in pricing). I would have thought the low exchange rate would have made that cheaper! :eek:

Seriously, I would probably suggest if you want to buy books right now, you're more then likely going to SAVE money by buying from amazon.com (its where I get most my stuff from - I just got the 'Firefly' series on DVD (Brilliant) and it only came to NZ$70 (with shipping!) for a 4 dvd set))

Scarey stuff, eh...

Also check out the coupons on our site...check out my signature :)

kevman3d
12-31-2003, 09:26 PM
Very cool! :) Where can you use those coupons? Amazon, or on WordWares online purchasing section?

Oh, and Happy New Year - If you haven't seen it yet, its a nice day for the first day of the year here in NZ! :p

chrisWhite
12-31-2003, 09:56 PM
Grrrrr....way to many awesome looking things to be waiting for right now :D, after 8 though, this is the very next thing on my list!
:bounce:

Petrik
12-31-2003, 10:23 PM
Originally posted by proton
I'm interested :)

I think that says it all. Someone who is already a great character modeller is willing to get a book on the subject. It just proves that learning never ends. Well I'm with Proton on this one and would also be interested. Wes is going to be a busy lad for some time to come with the rate at which these books are being produced.

Kevman3D
No it was dymocks. NZ$99 if I worked it out correctly it could have saved around $20 (taking into account postage) ordering from amazon and waiting for it, or have the book straight away. Most of the time I buy these books through amazon and when I do I get way too many. ("Buy this and get this at reduced cost" should be banned)

chrisWhite
12-31-2003, 10:34 PM
cerreto, forgot to mention I would be very interested!

kurv
12-31-2003, 11:32 PM
Originally posted by kevman3d
Very cool! :) Where can you use those coupons? Amazon, or on WordWares online purchasing section?

Oh, and Happy New Year - If you haven't seen it yet, its a nice day for the first day of the year here in NZ! :p

Just through Wordware online :)

www.wordware.com/lightwave

Thanks!!

LiveFlash
01-08-2004, 11:27 PM
Just saw this now and nearly fell off my seat!! :applause:

Can I just ask, how much is shipping to the UK?
Also, how many pages will the book be approx?

I'm a bit low on the old ŁŁ at the mo, but as soon as I find out how much shipping will be.. i'll place my order!

Is there a deadline to place our orders to get the 35% off? :blush:

Edit: Just checked the international charges.. I hope i'm wrong, but It says: "Shipping: Worldwide Expedited: $56.58" :cry:

Thats more than what the book costs! :surprised

js33
01-09-2004, 06:08 AM
Hehehe
Well no reason for expedited shipping considering how long we have waited and may continue to wait for 8. :cry:

Cheers,
JS

kurv
01-09-2004, 03:06 PM
Originally posted by LiveFlash
Just saw this now and nearly fell off my seat!! :applause:

Can I just ask, how much is shipping to the UK?
Also, how many pages will the book be approx?

I'm a bit low on the old ŁŁ at the mo, but as soon as I find out how much shipping will be.. i'll place my order!

Is there a deadline to place our orders to get the 35% off? :blush:

Edit: Just checked the international charges.. I hope i'm wrong, but It says: "Shipping: Worldwide Expedited: $56.58" :cry:

Thats more than what the book costs! :surprised


We are looking into other shipping options like USPS or other flat rates... BUT.. we can not be held responsible if the book does not get their which is why we always used to ship a traceable way... but that is very expensive.

We are going to give everyone internationally the options on shipping via email...and no ones cards will be charged until they choose and the book is shipped.

As far as deadlines... I would say you have at least 4 weeks...

Thanks!!!

Steve Warner
01-09-2004, 07:33 PM
I went back and made several revisions to the Tips cover model. It's in the process of being re-textured, but while that's going on, T4D was kind enough to rig it for us. The rig includes "joystick" controls for facial animation, giving you an amazing amount of control. Big thanks to Peter for this one! :)

The model and rig will be included with the book for everyone to play with. :)

http://www.trinitymediainc.com/Temp/rigged.gif

Cheers!

Steve

chrisWhite
01-09-2004, 08:02 PM
Sweet, thanks T4D, can't wait to see one of your rigs up close!

Steve, I'm glad your working more on the cover, though I liked your concept it didn't seam up to your normal level of work. The model is excelent, but the texturing, lighting and rendering I thought could be improved a little. Not a diss on you, I just think I've seen you do much better. :buttrock:

kurv
01-09-2004, 08:16 PM
I can't wait to see “Henry”, (my nick name for him) textured and lit... Thanks again Steve, you rock!!!

LOR
01-09-2004, 09:46 PM
SWEET!


Originally posted by Steve Warner
I went back and made several revisions to the Tips cover model. It's in the process of being re-textured, but while that's going on, T4D was kind enough to rig it for us. The rig includes "joystick" controls for facial animation, giving you an amazing amount of control. Big thanks to Peter for this one! :)

The model and rig will be included with the book for everyone to play with. :)



Cheers!

Steve

kurv
01-09-2004, 09:47 PM
Originally posted by nboughen
SWEET!

Nick you up for lighting the little guy..?

LOR
01-09-2004, 10:02 PM
YYYEEAAAHHHHH!

I'm up.

Gosh, some real fun for a change!! ;D

Originally posted by kurv
Nick you up for lighting the little guy..?

kurv
01-09-2004, 10:42 PM
Hey folks, I wanted to give you guys an update on the author situation...

We have added our last few authors to the list…

We are truly honored to add Kevin Phillips to our list of authors, Kevin is going to add tremendous value to this book.

Kevin’s Bio,

read more about Kevin here (http://www.wordware.com/tnt)

Kevin Phillips has a well-rounded knowledge of LightWave. He currently works half-time as a "LightWave artist" at Flux Animation Studios, and the other half as "Teacher" at the National College of Media and Design (NatColl).

Over the past few years, he has developed several plugins (which gained favour with the LW Community back in the 5.5 days, plugins such as the "Lampy" translucency shader, and the strangely popular "Head-Up Display" image filter). Kevin founded, and still runs, the New Zealand LightWave Users Group, fondly called 'KiWavers' (Kee-Wayvers) where he demonstrates techniques, gives tips and shares his extensive knowledge with others. Starting back in 1998, this group has monthly meetings - 2004 will be its 6th year in existence.

Kevin has freelanced over the last 7 years, assisting clients to spruce up their 'boring business presentations' with 3D animation, modeling virtual stage sets for music videos, creating logos and titles for Video products, 3D visualizations for medical products, logo print work and video editing small productions.

As well as freelancing, Kevin has also lectured on 3D Modeling and rendering, and has written, developed and run a short-course "Introduction to LightWave" for the Auckland University of Technology.

Steve Warner
01-09-2004, 10:45 PM
Excellent! :applause: One more reason this book is going to be utterly indispensible!! :buttrock: Great to have you on board, Kevin!

kurv
01-09-2004, 10:49 PM
Originally posted by Steve Warner
Excellent! :applause: One more reason this book is going to be utterly indispensible!! :buttrock: Great to have you on board, Kevin!

Well I have two more tricks up my sleeve... I will be posting them today before I leave I am literally waiting for final approval over her and have all the text ready to go...

I think everyone is going to be excited!!!

kurv
01-09-2004, 11:02 PM
Okay, word just came in....it is a go!!!

WE GOT LEE STRINGER!!!!

If you have been under a rock somewhere...Lee is the lead CG Supervisor at Zoic responsible for the Sci-Fi Battlestar Galactica mini Series.

Lee will be providing us some special material specific to BSG for the book. Look out folks this one smokes!!!!

kevman3d
01-09-2004, 11:10 PM
Hey, thanks Steve (et al) - Its an incredible honor to be able to be involved in this book with some many of the LightWave Guru's on the authors list! :blush:

From plugins to rigging... I can really say that I feel I've done a bit of pretty much everything in LightWave, which I feel has given me a strong knowledgebase to work from - Combined with the 6 years of running NZ's LightWave users group (and all the tutorials and tip writing I've done) - Its this knowledge that I share in the hope will add to the already awesome work in this book and make it one of the best books you can get for LightWave on the market!

Now, back to my wordprocessor... :bounce:

kevman3d
01-09-2004, 11:13 PM
Holy-cow! Lee Stringer?! BSG info?!

That's awesome Wes! This book just gets better every time I read this thread! :D

kurv
01-09-2004, 11:26 PM
ResPower has been so good to us at Wordware and has agreed to join us on the promotion on the 1001 Tips and Tricks Book.

They are offering EVERY pre-order 100 GHz Hours on there render farm. This is an outstanding offer and if you have never used ResPower before and experienced the speed and professionalism this is your chance.

ResPower did not just stop their though, they are going to hold a random drawing of all the pre-orders and give one lucky winner 2000 GHz hours!!!

When we heard this our jaws dropped!

So those of you who have already pre-ordered…you are already on board for this offer and your name is already entered in this prize drawing!

Thank you ResPower ResPower's site (http://www.respower.com)

leigh
01-09-2004, 11:30 PM
Cool beans :D

kurv
01-09-2004, 11:32 PM
So just in case your new to CGTalk or have not been watching this thread…

Pre-order you copy of Wordware’s LightWave 8: 1001 Tips and Tricks today (http://www.wordware.com/tnt) and here is the list of what you will get…

35% off of the retail price from Wordware AND free shipping if you are in the continental US (This means the book only costs you $25.97!!)..

and....

25% off of 3D Online Training Material!

Receive 25% off of any or all 3D Online Training Courses. These courses come highly recommended, so much so I myself am currently using them to learn LightWave 3D. I could not be happier with Larry Shultz (Spline God) course. If you are trying to learn anything in LW from Modeling (Spline, Organic, Head, much more), Texturing, Lighting to Animating and Rigging YOU NEED THIS COURSE!
http://www.3dtrainingonline.com

also……

$50.00 Tim Buck from NewTek!

You will receive a $50.00 Tim Buck good towards any product from NewTek, including the incredible, highly anticipated LightWave 8! Use this Tim Buck to upgrade to 8, or just buy yourself and a few friends some cool NewTek gear like hats or shirts. You can spend this $50.00 on anything you like at NewTek!

and now!!!!

ResPower
was gracious enough to join us on the promotion. They are offering EVEY pre-order 100 GHz Hours on their render farm. This is an outstanding offer and if you have never used ResPower before and experienced the speed and professionalism this is your chance. ResPower did not just stop their though, they are going to hold a random drawing of all the pre-orders and give one lucky winner 2000 GHz hours. When we heard this our jaws dropped!

http://www.respower.com

Place your orders now!!! (http://www.wordware.com/tnt)

Pi3141
01-09-2004, 11:34 PM
Lee Stringer? wow.... dude that rocks so much I feel sick :buttrock: :buttrock: :buttrock:

Cman
01-09-2004, 11:35 PM
This is looking like an outstanding book!
I can't wait to read all the great tips.

I bet it becomes the new lightwave bible. :D

chrisWhite
01-09-2004, 11:45 PM
Kevin Phillips - Lee Stringer - ResPower

:buttrock: :buttrock: :buttrock: :buttrock: (We need unlimited buttrocks here, at least 10, I'd use them all for this post)

SplineGod
01-10-2004, 06:48 AM
Thats cool! Nice to have Kevin and Lee on board :)

kevman3d
01-10-2004, 10:48 AM
Thanks Larry! Glad to be here and working alongside people like yourself, and now Lee as well. :beer:

Mike Pauza
01-10-2004, 06:32 PM
Wes. Do we also get a free set of steak knives with every order? :) Wow, this book is gonna rock!


-Mike Pauza (3DPhysicist)

Pi3141
01-10-2004, 06:36 PM
I think the important question is, can they cut through a shoe? :D

Jimstein
01-10-2004, 06:38 PM
I thought the Santa had forgotten me completely… but it seems he only was a little late! Well CGtalk is the place there everything worth to know will show up. Yepp. :love:

and Larry… YOU GOT MAIL!

archiea
01-10-2004, 08:35 PM
Originally posted by projectcoil
It looks like an alien child more than buddha if you ask me. :shrug:

Personally, I would have gone with something far more abstract..its the literal interpretation of a buddha like character that lacks polish from a stand point of concept. A bit dorky for a lack of a better word I think once you start on the path of an abstract representation of diverse knowledge and wisdom , it gets harder to conceive, but the result, if it works, would be far supperior. Case and point:

using the symbols of the links posted..
http://www.rotten.com/library/occult/sacred-geometry/
Even this image would have been kewl
http://www.rotten.com/library/occult/sacred-geometry/sacred-fractal.jpg

Its just feeling the need to actually show a buddha like character gives it a bit of a lowest common denominator feel..

Look at this image that I found randomly... the old typewriter and the rustic setting implies kind of an aged wisdom from a past era... in fact its open to a wide interpretation...
http://www.highsouth.com/rosen99/thompsond1c.jpg

Steve Warner
01-11-2004, 12:13 AM
Originally posted by archiea
once you start on the path of an abstract representation of diverse knowledge and wisdom , it gets harder to conceive, but the result, if it works, would be far supperior
That's true, but abstract art is not something you usually associate with mastery of a 3D program. I'd think an abstract design would be better suited for a book on texturing or even a book on Photoshop or Painter. A character, however, is easily associated with 3D. And since LW8 sports a number of improvements to its character animation tools, a character which is symbolic of both the community as a whole, as well as mastery of a discipline, simply works.


the old typewriter and the rustic setting implies kind of an aged wisdom from a past era... in fact its open to a wide interpretation...
However, we're not going for aged wisdom from a past era. We're representing those who are currently masters in their field. The beauty of this book is that it comes not from an individual, but from many talented artists. Not just modelers or texturing artists, but rigging professionals, dynamics experts, character animators, plugin authors, and those who've mastered the process of creating expressions.

Back to the abstract thing. I personally own a number of original paintings from abstract artists. I love the style. But I think that would be a hard sell for the cover of a book of this type. But again, that's just an opinion.

Cheers!

Steve

archiea
01-11-2004, 12:38 AM
Originally posted by Steve Warner
That's true, but abstract art is not something you usually associate with mastery of a 3D program. I'd think an abstract design would be better suited for a book on texturing or even a book on Photoshop or Painter. A character, however, is easily associated with 3D. And since LW8 sports a number of improvements to its character animation tools, a character which is symbolic of both the community as a whole, as well as mastery of a discipline, simply works.



Of course this is all personal taste you know and there is no right answer. My debate is almost reflected in your reply: which is taking too literal an interpretation. its just my taste and I prefer the more collage-y, abstract designs, ala the redisign of DV magazine, and some of the collagey, abstract art they use for their Feature splashes. ..

Originally posted by Steve Warner


However, we're not going for aged wisdom from a past era. We're representing those who are currently masters in their field. The beauty of this book is that it comes not from an individual, but from many talented artists. Not just modelers or texturing artists, but rigging professionals, dynamics experts, character animators, plugin authors, and those who've mastered the process of creating expressions.

Back to the abstract thing. I personally own a number of original paintings from abstract artists. I love the style. But I think that would be a hard sell for the cover of a book of this type. But again, that's just an opinion.

Cheers!

Steve

I think the abstract covers grab the eye more, you investigate and then you see the list of authors on the bottom as you currently have, and then you thumb through it...

When I first saw the cover, it looked, for a lack of a better word, dorkey to me and unsophisticated. Some readers here expressed it as feeling "amataeur" considering the content contained within it..

Like I said, its a matter ot taste, and you guys were experimenting. No crime there....

Steve Warner
01-11-2004, 01:02 AM
Originally posted by archiea
Like I said, its a matter ot taste, and you guys were experimenting. No crime there....
True enough! :) If we did a hot chick on the cover, we'd be criticized for copying everyone else. If we did a cartoon character, we'd offend the people who think we should have done a realistic render. If we do a pretty picture, we get criticized by the people who think art should be about concept and substance. You just can't win. But on the plus side, people who buy the book will now be getting a professionally modeled, textured, rigged, and lit scene to play with. Try finding one of those on the market for $39.95! :thumbsup:

T4D
01-11-2004, 12:21 PM
Originally posted by Steve Warner
I went back and made several revisions to the Tips cover model. It's in the process of being re-textured, but while that's going on, T4D was kind enough to rig it for us. The rig includes "joystick" controls for facial animation, giving you an amazing amount of control. Big thanks to Peter for this one! :)

The model and rig will be included with the book for everyone to play with. :)

http://www.trinitymediainc.com/Temp/rigged.gif

Cheers!

Steve

Cool thanks Steve glad you like the rig
also happy to play a small part in what's going to be very cool book :beer:

kurv
02-13-2004, 07:19 PM
WOW, I am butting this book together now and I think we will have a lot more tips than 1001... more like 1200 or so...

Just got the tips from William Vaughan, Deuce Bennett, Jennifer Hachigian and Larry Shultz...

This is going to be great...

For up to date info be sure to check out www.wordware.com/tnt

Thanks!!

LOR
02-13-2004, 07:24 PM
Originally posted by kurv
WOW, I am butting this book together now and I think we will have a lot more tips than 1001... more like 1200 or so...



Hey, man. Can you describe "butting this book"? :eek: :applause:

Nick

kurv
02-13-2004, 07:34 PM
Originally posted by nboughen
Hey, man. Can you describe "butting this book"? :eek: :applause:

Nick


ROTFL... that was supposed to be PUTTING this book together... your a bad bad man....

Thanks for the laugh!!

kurv
02-27-2004, 08:18 PM
I wanted to post our TOC for the LightWave 3D 8: 1001 Tips and Tricks book here...

for more information please go to www.wordware.com/tnt

Price - 39.95 US, and get it for 37% off at www.wordware.com/tnt, also check out the pre-order specials, expiring soon :)

Wanted to post our latest TOC, Steve and I are working hard to finish up the book, if anyone has any questions feel free to fire away!!

Chapter 01 – SAGE ADVICE

Chapter 02 - Design, Pre-visualization and Prep
General Tips
Project Goals
Reference material
Pre-visualization
Design

Chapter 03 - Program Setup Pages
Install and Configuration
Interface Adjustments
Menu Layout
Keyboard Shortcuts
Interface Navigation
General Options
Modeler
Layout
Display Options
Modeler
Layout
Hub
Plug-ins
Import/Export

Chapter 04 – Modeling
General Tips
Scanning and Setup
Object Construction
Object Enhancement
Surfacing
Weights
UVs
Endomorphs
Gons
Skelegons
Luxigons
Powergons

Chapter 05 – Texturing Pages
General Tips
Basic Attributes
Image Maps
Gradients
Procedurals
Advanced Attributes
Environmental Attributes
Shaders
Presets
VIPER
Image Editor

Chapter 06 - Staging/Digital Cinematography

Chapter 07 – Lighting
General Tips
Global Illumination/Radiosity
Flares
Volumetrics
Shadows

Chapter 08 – Animating Pages
General Tips
Basic Principles
Keyframes
Inverse Kinematic
Expressions
Deformations
Bones
Morphing
Endomorphs
Displacements
Character Rigging
Motion Designer LW 6.0 – 7.5
Basic Principles
Simulations
Line Like Objects
Cloth Like Objects
Solid Like Objects
Collisions Basic
LW 8 Dynamics
Hard Body Dynamics
Soft Body Dynamics
Cloth Dynamics
Particle Simulation
Simulation Basics
Editor Windows
Scene Editor / Dope Sheet
Channels/Graph Editor
Spreadsheet Editor
Motion Mixer

Chapter 09 - Special Effects
General Tips
Volumetrics
Fog tips
Hypervoxles
Worley's Sas Lite
Environments
Skytracer
Textured Environments
Image World
Filters

Chapter 10 – Rendering Pages
General Options
Previews
Network Rendering

Chapter 11 – Compositing Pages
General Tips
Splitting Renders into layered elements
Exporting Channels (Depth/Spec/etc.)
Digital Fusion
After FX

Chapter 12 - Scripting Pages[
Lscript
Scripting Expressions

Chapter 13 - LightWave in Print
LightWave section for graphic designers

Chapter 14 - Troubleshooting LightWave 3D
LightWave 3D Troubleshooting

Chapter 15 – Bonus Material Pages
Bonus Material from David Ebner of CafeFX
Bonus Material from Jack "Deuce" Bennett
Bonus Material from Lee Stringer of Zoic Studios

Total Page Count 540 Manuscript - 39.95 US, and get it for 37% off at www.wordware.com/tnt pre-order specials

Mwai Kasamale
02-27-2004, 08:49 PM
Cool, can't wait............


much longer. This LW delay is a really bad thing for everyone. No doubt this book will rock, but I wish this time would fly, but it will be out when its out and I hues we need only be gratefull that the book is finished:thumbsup:

sensai2nd
02-27-2004, 09:07 PM
This is shaping up to be an indespensible resource!!!!!!!!!

Rock on Wordware :buttrock:

RobPowers
02-27-2004, 09:47 PM
This book is going to be a great resource for us all. So many great tips from such a diverse group of Lightwave artists. Everyone will learn something from this one! But, boy do I wish I had something like this when I was starting out!

SplineGod
02-27-2004, 10:05 PM
Yes it would have been nice. Theres some really awesome stuff in this book. Its great being able to have so many talented people being involved....and you too Rob! ;)

RobPowers
02-27-2004, 10:13 PM
I appreciate that Larry. Same for you. But honestly, even though I am contributing some tips to the book I really can't wait to read all the other artists tips & tricks! In 3D you just never stop learning and everyone does it a little differently.

LOR
02-27-2004, 10:17 PM
Great day in the mornin' what a TOC!

Not enuff stuff in the lighting section, though and lighting is, of course, the most important thing... ;D

LOR:cool:

Celshader
02-27-2004, 10:28 PM
Originally posted by RobPowers
I appreciate that Larry. Same for you. But honestly, even though I am contributing some tips to the book I really can't wait to read all the other artists tips & tricks! In 3D you just never stop learning and everyone does it a little differently.

Amen to that. I'm looking forwards to seeing what you and Larry and everyone else wrote. I figure I'll learn a lot. :love:

I also hope folks like the tips that Dave Jerrard and I contributed to this book. :cool:

-- Jen Hachigian

SplineGod
02-27-2004, 10:46 PM
Group HUGS!!!:blush:

kurv
02-27-2004, 11:05 PM
Hey wow, a lot of the writers showed up, awesome!!!!

I wanted to also point out a section that we added in the last 60 days...

The Troubleshooting section!!

Kurtis Harris came through with a ton of tips on troubleshooting LightWave. These tips are awesome, making this book a very well rounded book indeed!!

Wait till you see the bonus section too :)

kurv
02-27-2004, 11:15 PM
Originally posted by LOR
Great day in the mornin' what a TOC!

Not enuff stuff in the lighting section, though and lighting is, of course, the most important thing... ;D

LOR:cool:

But "your" section is 47 pages long :) not to bad... ;)
Oh and btw, watch out for Policarpo, he has some sweet Lighting tricks man... you two need to hook up and talk... :)

kevman3d
02-27-2004, 11:51 PM
Originally posted by kurv
The Troubleshooting section!!

Kurtis Harris came through with a ton of tips on troubleshooting LightWave. These tips are awesome, making this book a very well rounded book indeed!!

Cool - Good to hear about more troubleshooting tips being added! The whole idea about that section was to add tips for how to fix LightWave issues, or resolve errors without resorting to verbally abusing LightWave, or doing the 'had to reinstall LightWave' thing... :D

So many problems can be resolved without overly desparate measures. This book is sure to show you how! :)

Nice work Wes!

LOR
02-28-2004, 12:03 AM
Originally posted by kurv
But "your" section is 47 pages long :) not to bad... ;)
Oh and btw, watch out for Policarpo, he has some sweet Lighting tricks man... you two need to hook up and talk... :)

I don't doubt that. Policarpo's work is great!

LOR:cool:

kretin
02-28-2004, 02:08 AM
I SO can't wait to check out everyone elses tips.

Man this book is gonna be indispensable for every LW user, newbie and experienced alike. I recon this book is the first ever where experienced users will get just as much, if not more, out of than newbies. I'll have to add it next to the LW manual on my required 6 monthly reading list.

Kurtis
02-28-2004, 02:39 AM
I've said it before, but I can't say it enough. Thank Wes, for letting me be a part of this project. It's been fun, and I've really enjoyed it.

I've spent almost my entire career in the 3D Background so to speak, either in a support function (teaching LW at community colleges, NewTek Customer Service, NewTek Technical Support) or producing graphics for the decidedly not glamorous field of oilfield training materials. The one time I worked in one of the entertainment field, for a now-defunct PC game start-up, it was ironically enough as a 3D Background Artist.

Let's be honest, I can't wait to get this book, because it's the first time I've been a published author. :love: :bounce: :eek:

That being said, I also want to pick this one up because I think it will be the first 3D book I will completely read.

My first exposure to LightWave was in 1996 at The Art Institute of Houston. I was in the first class of their newly formed 3D program, but I had to take the Special Effects for Video class in the Video Production program to get to use LW. At the time, the only 3D program you could find anything about was 3D Studio Release 4 and then 3DS Max 1. There were no books or videos for LW, and the class I took was the only one I knew about anywhere. Even at that, there was only one old Amiga that was already out-of-date and didn't have the latest version of LW. Most of my LW training came from learning just enough on my own to get whatever project I was currently working on done.

I'm still constantly learning new things that probably everyone else already knows. I think a big part of this is that I've always learned better by watching someone than reading books. I don't know how many 3D books I've bought over the years and never gotten around to reading. I just can't commit to reading 500-600 pages. I'm always itching to learn something quick and try to start putting it into action.

This will probably be the first 3D book I've ever gotten that I'll actually finish. It's going to be nothing but short, too-the-point information that I can immediately put to use. This is the first book I've ever seen aimed at people like me, those of the much discussed short attention span. A book for those who like to read books and those that hate to read books alike.

Thanks again Wes. :bowdown:

NanoGator
02-29-2004, 10:26 PM
Originally posted by RobPowers
This book is going to be a great resource for us all. So many great tips from such a diverse group of Lightwave artists. Everyone will learn something from this one! But, boy do I wish I had something like this when I was starting out!

Hey Rob. Sorry to be OT, but could you check your PM's please?

:beer:

Psyhke
03-01-2004, 12:09 AM
Steve,

Just thought I'd pipe in and say I really like the cover. It's actually what made me take a second look at this thread. It somehow portrayed the idea that the contents would actually be practical, useful, no-nonsense nuggets of information and wisdom. Rather than vague conceptual fluff.

2 cents from me. :)

kurv
03-04-2004, 11:24 PM
Just wanted to give everyone a heads up, we will be discontinuing the pre-order specials on this book on March 12th 2004

www.wordware.com/tnt

questions - wbeckwith@wordware.com

Thanks everyone for your support!!

kurv
03-05-2004, 08:34 PM
I wanted to let everyone know we got a new sponsor for the Tips and tricks book.

So now not only will you get:

1 - 25% off of any 3D Training Online Courses, the best in the business!
2 - $50.00 Tim Buck good for anything from NewTek.
3 - 100 GHz Hours at ResPower

and, drum roll please.....

4 - 15% discount off of your next model order with 3D Art To Part, details below.

In appreciation for your recent preorder with Wordware Publishing, 3DArtToPart would like to offer you a 15% discount off of your next model order. To use the discount just enter this discount code (Tips & Tricks), into the Promotional Code section on our web site "Get A Quote" page. Please note that this discount applies to the model price only.

To learn more about our services and see some of our work or to request a quote please visit us at www.3DArtToPart.com (http://www.3DArtToPart.com)

If you have not seen what these guys can do with your models, you have got to check them out, making your own toys is awesome!!!

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For more information please visit www.wordware.com/tnt

LittleFenris
03-05-2004, 09:35 PM
:eek: :buttrock:

kurv
03-15-2004, 05:49 PM
Hey wanted to give some more good news for the artists who have worked so hard on this book..!!

We made 3D World Magazine!!!!

Check out this month’s issue, #50!!

We decided to give 3D World 50 of our tips for there 50th issue, seemed fitting to us.

They were so impressed they gave us 8 pages instead of 6!

Check it out, we even threw in a few special prices to 3D World readers!!

http://www.kurvstudios.com/mylightwave/3dworld.png

You wanted a sneak peak of the book, you got it, 50 full tips!!!

Let us know what you think.

SplineGod
03-15-2004, 05:59 PM
Very cool Wes! :)

3DDave
03-15-2004, 06:20 PM
When is this shipping date??

kurv
03-15-2004, 06:35 PM
Originally posted by SplineGod
Very cool Wes! :)

Thanks Larry!!!

Originally posted by 3DDave
When is this shipping date??

We are est. April 16th... :)

kurv
03-17-2004, 09:56 PM
Though I wouls share this with you guys...

Here is the TOC fro the Tip and Tricks book in detail...

TOC File, click here (http://www.wordware.com/tnt/Manuscript-TOC.pdf)

as you look at it here is a key to the info that is important. Next to each chapter title is a 0001 - 0044 T - 27 MS for example. That means this chapter includes Tips number 0001 through 0044 and it is 27 manuscript pages long...

Take a look at chapter 4 - 8 whew... oh and take a lok at the last chapter to see the full page and tip count ;)

Let me know if you have any questions :)

Wes - :thumbsup:

3DDave
05-02-2004, 08:18 PM
Originally posted by kurv
Thanks Larry!!!



We are est. April 16th... :)


How about an update on the ship date. Lightwave [8] is out and I am waiting for my tim bucks before buying!

LOR
05-02-2004, 09:12 PM
Awesome, Kurv.

I'm dying to see this book when it's done!!

LOR:cool:

Mike Pauza
05-02-2004, 09:58 PM
I've seen the book...it's awesome!

-Mike Pauza

SplineGod
05-02-2004, 10:48 PM
Me too Mike, pretty exciting stuff too! :)

kurv
05-02-2004, 11:36 PM
Originally posted by 3DDave
How about an update on the ship date. Lightwave [8] is out and I am waiting for my tim bucks before buying!

3DDave, thanks for the interest! We are looking at shipping the books in the last week of May. I will email the pre-order list to keep everyone up to date.

Thanks Nick, Mike and Larry!!!

Here is what a few other people who have seen the book have to say... take a look you might recognize a few names below. :thumbsup:

Brad Carvey – “I need this book. Even with my background…. So, why do I need this book? For the same reason that you need this book. To benefit from the exploration and experience of others - their tips & tricks. At the college where I teach, students learn both Maya and LightWave. However, they always do their best work in LightWave. I believe this is because it is possible to learn LightWave on your own, with just a little help from the instructors.”

Steve Worley, Worley Labs – “LightWave is a huge and complex program… That's what makes this book you hold so valuable. Its format is unique and exciting. The number and unprecedented range of topics is guaranteed to give you new ideas and inspiration. Some tips will cover ideas you've discovered yourself. Others will be on topics that aren't your interest. What remains are hundreds of immediately useful methods and ideas to help you! The scattered topics become like beacons in the LightWave world, a way to guide you to the new places you've been hoping and trying to go to.”

Timothy Albee, Timothy Albee Animation (author) – “I've been reading "computer-books" for a long time, and there seems to have been an on-going trend of, "If it's thick, it's got to be good, right?" This has led to tomes that should be licensed as weapons in some states, heavy as cinder-blocks but packed with "Styrofoam." You know the human-equivalent of this kind of book, the people who talk a lot but say very little.

Cut to the chase!

I don't have time to weed through a bunch of meaningless words and pictures in a vain effort to glean a femtometer's worth of info. amid a hectare of chaff.

So when Wes Beckwith pitched me his idea for a "1,001 Tips and Tricks" book for LightWave, it froze me in my tracks, (the true sign of an idea that is matched in brilliance only by its simplicity). No filler, no nonsense, just a whole lot of Tips and Tricks from industry professionals. It was brilliant!”

Paul Mikulecky, Lost Pencil Animation Studios – “Take a hoard of Lightwave 3d professionals, tie them up and force all of them to tell you their favorite Lightwave tips and tricks and you too, could have authored this book! This is an amazing resource that will save you time, help keep your sanity and your hair (too late for me). It's like finding a mine full of gold nuggets - so many, in fact, you just don't know where to start collecting them!”

William Vaughan, NewTek (author) - This book that your holding in your hands could be the key to meeting your next deadline, or adding that extra step that takes your work to the next higher level of quality. Wordware has gathered some of the best and brightest minds in the industry and pulled from them the best tips and tricks for LightWave and graphic art in general and put them all right here into one indispensable reference. Although this book was in production for only one year, you are holding many years worth of knowledge and skill that is ready to be applied to your next project.”

DigitalDeuce
05-03-2004, 12:27 AM
This book is sooo gonna be part of my library. It is the rare occassion that you can get a collection of artists together to share this much information.

It's like being at a "top users group" meeting - and be able to take home all the discussions.

Really an exciting time to be a LightWaver.


(Oh, and did I mention that I wrote for it? )

:thumbsup:

angus1965
05-03-2004, 12:51 AM
One more reference for the Lightwave user - glad to hear. I look forward to seeing it when it is out.

I wish I had these resources available when I was learning LW years ago.

DigitalDeuce
05-03-2004, 12:53 AM
That is such a good point --

I think back to what I had to use back when I started using LightWave ----

Now I look at what my Kid has for reference and learning materials --


Staggering.

kevman3d
05-03-2004, 01:07 PM
Originally posted by DigitalDeuce
It's like being at a "top users group" meeting - and be able to take home all the discussions.

Actually, that's a great description for what this book is like! :)

Gollum
05-03-2004, 04:01 PM
My ultimate resource was the Best of LightWavePro Compilation book I got a hold off when I started LW with in 1996. Despite its funny outside (bound with a plastic spiral), it had a huge amount of collected tutorials, tips, reader Q&A corners and articles by Pros from all over the industry that I found invaluable in the beginning.

Now of course there's literally dozens of books out there to refer to, like Alban's great Inside series or books by Jerrard or Albee, to name just a few I got standing next to me.

This particular book looks very promising, lending itself something of that "collection of tips from many different pros" principle that made the LWP compilation so valuable IMO. Really looking forward to it!

kurv
05-03-2004, 05:46 PM
Thanks Deuce, Randy, Kevin, and Gollum!!

We are working hard to get the book out!!

Mike Pauza
05-04-2004, 07:47 PM
This book is every bit as important as the LightWave Manual!!!

Easily the best ever. No single or small group of authors have ever come close to producing the volume of quality information you'll find in here.



-Mike Pauza

3DDave
05-04-2004, 08:37 PM
Originally posted by Mike Pauza
This book is every bit as important as the LightWave Manual!!!

Easily the best ever. No single or small group of authors have ever come close to producing the volume of quality information you'll find in here.



-Mike Pauza

It's also half the price of the new Lightwave [8] manual.

kurv
05-04-2004, 08:49 PM
Okay got a final page count fro the TnT book.... it is over 600 pages....

This book is huge!!!

chrisWhite
05-04-2004, 08:51 PM
:buttrock: :buttrock: Sweet Wes, can't wait for this one!

wrosado
05-04-2004, 09:57 PM
Sounds great, Wes! Can't wait for the book and for LW8!

kurv
05-04-2004, 10:35 PM
Thanks guys...!

thouht I would post the final image being used to make the cover...

http://www.kurvstudios.com/mylightwave/Final_PRINT_RES_RENDER0002.jpg

Steve Warner did the Modeling and Texturing.. Nicholas Boughen did the Lighting and Peter Thomas did the Rigging..!

I think it looks amazing!!

SplineGod
05-04-2004, 11:55 PM
Great job guys! :)

xeno3d
05-05-2004, 01:32 AM
I am soo looking foward to this title. Great job on this one guys.. its gonna be fantastic! :)

nebcat
05-20-2004, 07:58 PM
1001 tips. Will that REALLY be enough? I mean, how much would one need? What if I only needed one or two tips? The rest I could get at our beloved CGTALK, right?
CGTALK ROCKS!
:thumbsup:

nebcat
05-20-2004, 08:05 PM
...And further more...

What would a shoulin monk be using that logo for? Would the logo of Newtek's Lightwave would indeed promote inner peace and a sence of well-being through out your CG expierience? Would 1001 tips promote harmony? Would 1001 make me 1?

Just kidding...:p

I've got it on order. Hahahahahaha!

Just being a pest. Sorry.

kurv
05-20-2004, 08:06 PM
Originally posted by nebcat
1001 tips. Will that REALLY be enough? I mean, how much would one need? What if I only needed one or two tips? The rest I could get at our beloved CGTALK, right?
CGTALK ROCKS!
:thumbsup:

Well, how about 1300 tips, 640 page, and a CD packed with demo videos, LScipts from the 1300 tips (one that could be turned into scripts), character rigs, and more...

Would that do... :)

CGTalk does :buttrock: :thumbsup:

kurv
05-20-2004, 08:09 PM
Yes, this books will bring you to a spritual harmony with LightWave ;)

forgot to mention, 1300+ tips written by 32 industry leading artists... :)

LittleFenris
05-20-2004, 08:37 PM
When is this badboy set to be released?

kurv
05-20-2004, 08:43 PM
It is at the printer right now... shoudl be back in about two weeks...

Pre-orders will get theres first then it will go to all the book stores and Amazon... :)

LittleFenris
05-20-2004, 08:46 PM
Originally posted by kurv
It is at the printer right now... shoudl be back in about two weeks...

Pre-orders will get theres first then it will go to all the book stores and Amazon... :)

I preordered months ago, so I'm first!!! :bounce: :D

kurv
05-20-2004, 09:17 PM
Originally posted by LittleFenris
I preordered months ago, so I'm first!!! :bounce: :D

218 of 1246..... :) and counting...

Larkin
05-20-2004, 09:23 PM
I purchased within the first hour of this thread being started ;) the book seems to have been improving with age already, a nice side-effect of the 8 delays

kurv
05-20-2004, 09:29 PM
Originally posted by Larkin
I purchased within the first hour of this thread being started ;) the book seems to have been improving with age already, a nice side-effect of the 8 delays

LOL... Did you get your email with all the perks for the pre-orders... if not email me... :) wbeckwith@wordware.com

LittleFenris
05-20-2004, 09:29 PM
Originally posted by kurv
218 of 1246..... :) and counting...

Damn you other 217 before me!!!!!!! :cry:

Larkin
05-20-2004, 09:37 PM
Yeah Kurv thanks I got the Splinegod discount, Newtek Tim Buck, 3D art to Part discount and a Wordware discount. I think that was all that was going :) oh yeah, the renderfarm hours aswell :)

still all in the bank, the book was practically free...

btw, I just followed up on your on the Newtek forum (I'm omeone over there, and closov on SQ :D ) about the friends thing, and registered., but my name didn't come up as 'looking for users in this area etc' if this is normal - please ignore :thumbsup:
larkin / closov / omeone

kurv
05-20-2004, 09:43 PM
I do not think I posted the list of endorsement forewords we got on this book here did I...?

Here is a quick list of people who gave us endorsement forewords for this book... more than any other book Wordware has EVER published...

Here is what they said about our book… (excerpts).

… Learning a 3D animation program is like learning a foreign language. Each individual word is easy to learn, but only after learning lots of words well is it possible to create interesting and meaningful sentences. With LightWave, you don’t need to know a lot of new words before you can use them to do something cool, but the more you have in your repertoire, the more efficient you can be. And each tip or trick that someone develops is like a new word. This is why a tips and tricks book is so important. Add new "words" to your vocabulary and play with them until you know them well. With books like this one and programs like LightWave, it is easy to create stuff to impress your clients, your friends, and yourself…
Brad Carvey

… That's what makes this book you hold so valuable. Its format is unique and exciting. The number and unprecedented range of topics is guaranteed to give you new ideas and inspiration. Some tips will cover ideas you've discovered yourself. Others will be on topics that aren't your interest. What remains are hundreds of immediately useful methods and ideas to help you! The scattered topics become like beacons in the LightWave world, a way to guide you to the new places you've been hoping and trying to go to…
Steven Worley, Worley Labs

… This book is the sharing of LightWave discoveries and useful tips learned from the experience of leading artists in the industry. Whether you are a recent purchaser of LightWave or if you are like me and have been using LightWave since picking up one of the first 100 Toasters for the Amiga, you will find this collection of tips to be invaluable. Inviting you to open doors in your mind and propel your personal artistic exploration…
David Ebner – also author

… That's why this book is such a great idea - you can start anywhere, open to any page, and you'll find some useful information that you can put to work right away. You can start to build the layers of information, and let them benefit your work. Not only that, you're also learning from such a huge pool of talent that you're going to get techniques and hints that will hit you from all over. So, I'm going to keep this short ...you have work to do!...
Lee Stranahan – also author

…. In concept alone, the book is a stunning. One has to wonder why nobody has done it before--harnessed the vast knowledge and experience of so many talented artists from across the globe and spanning so many industries…..
Nicholas Boughen – also author
Senior Visual Effects Animator
Rainmaker

…. Although it is one of the defining works on the subject, the “Book of Proverbs” is not unique. Similar books of wisdom can be found in Egyptian, Chinese, Indian, and Arab cultures. It would seem that wherever men gather in the pursuit of knowledge, a collection of aphoristic writings can be found. It is no surprise, then, that you are holding this book in your hands, for you have come seeking knowledge. I am here to tell you that you have found it. This is your book of proverbs…
Steve Warner – also author

….. when Wes Beckwith pitched me his idea for a "1,001 tips and tricks" book for LightWave, it froze me in my tracks (the true sign of an idea that is matched in brilliance only by its simplicity). No filler, no nonsense, just a whole lot of tips and tricks from industry professionals. It was brilliant!...
Timothy "Amadhi" Albee – also author

Learn over a thousand ways that thirty industry professionals shave minutes (sometimes even hours!) off their daily work while using LightWave to create the mind-blowing effects you see on the big screen, television, print advertising, web design, military animations, and much more. Take advantage of these and you will be a better animator, designer, worker, hobbyist, or whatever you choose to be.
William "Proton" Vaughan
NewTek's LightWave 3D Evangelist – also author


When you get the book, check these out...!!

kurv
05-27-2004, 11:31 PM
This book will be in stock in a matter of a week or so... just wanted to let everyone know...

SplineGod
05-28-2004, 12:57 AM
Thats great Wes! Im excited to see it. :)

NileshXYZ
07-18-2004, 08:13 AM
So how is the book for people who got this book?

kurv
07-20-2004, 04:21 PM
So how is the book for people who got this book?
The response to this book has been over wellming... we really are having a hard time with shipping and such.

For more reviews go to

http://www.spinquad.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=1762

or

http://www.spinquad.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=2033

or

http://www.spinquad.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=1762

and the main thread at

http://www.spinquad.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=1666

Johnnyx
07-21-2004, 10:29 AM
New tip! don't know about you but sometimes I feel that everything to do with 3D and computers is ......."wait"!

Wait for a render, wait for a calculation, wait for a upload, wait for a download, wait for the program to boot, wait for windows to re-boot (my personal favorite!) ..arrgg you get the idea .. So, keep your LW 1001 tips and tricks book next to the PC ... them tips will sink in by osmosis during the wait times!!!

aarrgggg!

kurv
07-21-2004, 02:00 PM
New tip! don't know about you but sometimes I feel that everything to do with 3D and computers is ......."wait"!

Wait for a render, wait for a calculation, wait for a upload, wait for a download, wait for the program to boot, wait for windows to re-boot (my personal favorite!) ..arrgg you get the idea .. So, keep your LW 1001 tips and tricks book next to the PC ... them tips will sink in by osmosis during the wait times!!!

aarrgggg!
That would have to be Tip # 1355 as there are 1354 tip and tricks in this book ;)

Thanks Jonnyx!!

TommyGun
07-27-2004, 12:56 AM
Is there an errata page for any missing files on the CD? The folder, Book Cover Character, is empty on the CD I received. Just thought I'ld ask, no errata listed at Wordware and I searched the forum here but don't see where others have reported any missing files. Great Book.

kurv
07-27-2004, 02:43 PM
Is there an errata page for any missing files on the CD? The folder, Book Cover Character, is empty on the CD I received. Just thought I'ld ask, no errata listed at Wordware and I searched the forum here but don't see where others have reported any missing files. Great Book.
Thanks!!!

Sorry about that... thats my fault, it is in Steve Warners folder ;)

kurv
01-18-2005, 04:00 PM
With NewTek releasing an update to LightWave 8 Wordware would like to celebrate by offering a special on the LightWave 8 1001 Tips and Tricks book.

For a limited time, use the following coupon and receive 40% off the retail price of 39.95.

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BTW, out of the top 20 best selling 3D Graphics books, Wordware books still own 9 slots.

Netvudu
01-18-2005, 05:36 PM
All I can say is I got this one, and it´s really fantastic. Totally recommended. Besides, I already own three Wordware books and they make a great bookshelve with their nice yellow and black colors :D

Wes, send you and email but received no response. I just wanted to know what to expect on the LScript title. I mean, is it finally going to be published, greatly delayed, or not at all? Just wanted some info. I was very interested in that particular title.

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