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chikega 11-26-2003, 04:22 PM I was wondering whether a shader node could be plugged into muliple channels at one time. For instance, I've created a noise shader that I like and I would like to appropiate it to several channels - color, diffuse, bump. Is that possible?
It'd be OK to copy the shader node several times but the "Copy", "Cut", and "Paste" buttons in the Shader Flow window/block are grayed out - only the "Create" and "Delete" seem to be functional. Please advise. :)
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fwtep
11-26-2003, 04:42 PM
Originally posted by chikega
I was wondering whether a shader node could be plugged into muliple channels at one time. For instance, I've created a noise shader that I like and I would like to appropiate it to several channels - color, diffuse, bump. Is that possible?
Feel free to try it yourself and see! You're allowed to! :)
Anyway, yes, youc an do that. If I recall, that's in the Texturing Overview videos. If not, I know it's in the bottom animated gif on the Shader Flow page of the docs.
Fred
chikega
11-26-2003, 05:35 PM
Originally posted by fwtep
Feel free to try it yourself and see! You're allowed to! :)
Anyway, yes, youc an do that. If I recall, that's in the Texturing Overview videos. If not, I know it's in the bottom animated gif on the Shader Flow page of the docs.
Fred
Thanks for the quick response, Fred. Well, I reviewed your videos and gave the Shader Flower area of the manual a good once over before I attempted this - I tried to shift/ctl/alt click/drag, copy, paste, etc... plus every permutation thereof - but, alas, my shoulders are slumped over and my head hangs low. Here's a doctored image of what I'm trying to accomplish. I don't know if you have Messiah in front of you ... but, I was wondering if you could give it a try.
http://www.3ddmd.com/images/Messiah/Shader_Flow.jpg
Also, note how the "Copy","Cut" and "Paste" buttons are grayed out - I can't seem to get those buggers to activate. I know certain parts of Messiah are being developed - is this one of them? Thanks, Fred. I really enjoy your videos - you've got a great sense of humor - I'm still smiling from that silly bell sound:)
lmilton
11-26-2003, 05:41 PM
Originally posted by chikega
Thanks for the quick response, Fred. Well, I reviewed your videos and gave the Shader Flower area of the manual a good once over before I attempted this - I tried to shift/ctl/alt click/drag, copy, paste, etc...
There's no magic to it. Click & Drag Color (from the Noise) and Drop on Bump (on the Material). Then Click & Drag on Color and Drop on Diffuse. Very direct.
Also, just to confuse you;), you can Click & Drag from any input to any output on any other shader... you're not limited to dragging outputs.
Let me know if it makes sense...
-lyle
fwtep
11-26-2003, 06:00 PM
Originally posted by chikega
Thanks for the quick response, Fred. Well, I reviewed your videos and gave the Shader Flower area of the manual a good once over before I attempted this - I tried to shift/ctl/alt click/drag, copy, paste, etc... plus every permutation thereof - but, alas, my shoulders are slumped over and my head hangs low. Here's a doctored image of what I'm trying to accomplish. I don't know if you have Messiah in front of you ... but, I was wondering if you could give it a try.
The animated gif shows how it's done-- just click and drag. You might not have watched the whole thing; it shows me attaching one output to more than one input.
Fred
chikega
11-26-2003, 06:10 PM
Originally posted by lmilton
There's no magic to it. Click & Drag Color (from the Noise) and Drop on Bump (on the Material). Then Click & Drag on Color and Drop on Diffuse. Very direct.
Also, just to confuse you;), you can Click & Drag from any input to any output on any other shader... you're not limited to dragging outputs.
Let me know if it makes sense...
-lyle
Well ... that would be the obvious thing ... but Mr. Murphy would have it otherwise. Clicking & Dragging the second time just disconnects it. So, I can connect & disconnect. Hence, my little dance with other keys to see if it would prevent it from disconnecting and establish another connect ...
http://www.3ddmd.com/images/Messiah/Shader_Flow1a.jpg
So, what about the grayed-out Cut, Copy & Paste keys?
My head hangs even lower <----- the look of defeat
lmilton
11-26-2003, 06:20 PM
Originally posted by chikega
Well ... that would be the obvious thing ... but Mr. Murphy would have it otherwise. Clicking & Dragging the second time just disconnects it. So, I can connect & disconnect. Hence, my little dance with other keys to see if it would prevent it from disconnecting and establish another connect ...
http://www.3ddmd.com/images/Messiah/Shader_Flow1a.jpg
So, what about the grayed-out Cut, Copy & Paste keys?
My head hangs even lower <----- the look of defeat
Ummmm.... why are you dragging the connection? I said drag the Color not Material:Bump...
Just drag the *input* to the *output* not the existing *connections*. And don't try to make an existing connection again.
Let me know if this is clear...
-lyle
ps: Those Cut Copy & Paste buttons are inactive and don't apply to what you're trying to do, anyway.
chikega
11-26-2003, 06:26 PM
Originally posted by fwtep
The animated gif shows how it's done-- just click and drag. You might not have watched the whole thing; it shows me attaching one output to more than one input.
Fred
Never mind, never mind ... I got it ... I got it... man, I feel like a doofball :blush: ... I was grabbing the Material and disconnecting that ...
well... alrighty then ... onwards and upwards
chikega
11-26-2003, 06:32 PM
Originally posted by lmilton
Ummmm.... why are you dragging the connection? I said drag the Color not Material:Bump...
Just drag the *input* to the *output* not the existing *connections*. And don't try to make an existing connection again.
Let me know if this is clear...
-lyle
ps: Those Cut Copy & Paste buttons are inactive and don't apply to what you're trying to do, anyway.
Just read your post ... man, you respond pretty quick - that's what I call service with a smile:D
Don't lose hope ... I'll make you proud one day.
lmilton
11-26-2003, 06:35 PM
Originally posted by chikega
Never mind, never mind ... I got it ... I got it... man, I feel like a doofball :blush: ... I was grabbing the Material and disconnecting that ...
well... alrighty then ... onwards and upwards
LOL! :applause:
Don't sweat it, we all experience this from time to time;}) Hey, I spilled my drink today and felt myself reaching for the undo key :blush:
But just to confuse you a little more, you really *can* duplicate a connection by dragging it. You'd use the RMB:D However, don't get too used to it, that's going to change.
Anyway, post some samples when you get the chance:})
-lyle
Originally posted by lmilton
[...] Hey, I spilled my drink today and felt myself reaching for the undo key :blush:
LOL! You just made me really laugh :scream:
M.
lmilton
11-26-2003, 07:53 PM
Originally posted by maks
LOL! You just made me really laugh :scream:
M.
Yup, it's quite embarrassing.:blush: I really gotta get away from the computer more...
-lyle
fwtep
11-26-2003, 08:06 PM
Originally posted by lmilton
Don't sweat it, we all experience this from time to time;}) Hey, I spilled my drink today and felt myself reaching for the undo key :blush:
Duh, just reload your drink from before you spilled! Do I have to explain EVERYTHING???
Fred
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