CGTalk - New Goblin Rig

Sil3

11-25-2003, 10:05 PM

UPDATED URL

Hi all

Since Mike_RB´s Goblin character is so dam fun, i decided to make a rig for it. I have made slightly changes to the geometry of it, aligning the feet and the fingers but only to help me make the rig.

It took me more time to make than what i was expecting, so play with it and show us some cool animations.

I tryed my best to make an easy and at the same time powerfull rig.

Everything is controled by control objects(CTRL´s) so that we dont have to dig into a bunch of bones.

Although there are bones in the Hat Flaps, i switched from a Motion Dynamics approach to a Soft Body aproach, there are still some things i have to clear out before they were working like i wanted them to (this is because of the use of MoveTo Expressions on the Head)

A brief descrition of the rig, but it should be self explanatory what the CTRL´s do:

FK Arms attached with MoveTo Expressions, forget counter rotation of those everytime we rotate the Spine, they act pretty much like IK Arms in that regard :p

-Hand´s CTRL´s: Nested Group for NON Gimbal issues (or at least i think i got rid of the Gimbal )

-Bicep CTRL: Self explanatory

-Arm CTRL: Like in the hands i tryed a NON Gimbal approach.

-Shoulder CTRL: To aid the Arm when it lifts up, make shrugs, we can also rotate it back and forth

-Head rotates independently of the Body, again attached with a MoveTo Expression.

-Neck CTRL: Doesn´t rotate the Head (kinda hard to explain, try it and see what it does).

-Spine CTRL: Rotate the Spine CTRL and all the Spine Bones will rotate also achieving nice bends.

-COG CTRL: This one is self explanatory

-Hip CTRL: Independent control of the Hips.

-Belly CTRL (my favorite): I could have made this one automated but i think this way there´s more power to some really nice secondary motions on the Belly

-World Positioner: Only to place the character on a scene, move it and all the CTRL`s will move along non deforming the mesh.

COG Rotator: For making a Flip, it rotates form the COG center, be sure to adjust the Head CTRL also.

IK on both Legs and Feet, the only thing we cant make right now is to Tip Toe, i find that kind of control rarely used anyway, but if somebody needs it, simply unhide the Toe Bones and rotate them, sorry i got lazzy in this area :blush:

There´s also Slider for both Hand Fingers and for the Ears, and a one facial expression that Mike had already modeled.

Everything is grouped and colored for easy identification and to aid on Keyframe management specially with the DopeSheet.

UPDATED URL:

http://www.carnera3d.de/goblin_sil3_rig_final.mpj

THANKS to Carnera for letting me upload it to he´s website, be sure to also check it, he´s a gifted artist

http://www.carnera3d.de :buttrock:

Well, that´s all, have fun with it :bounce:

My Fault

11-25-2003, 10:35 PM

I've only been playing with it for a few minutes (I should actually be working) but I just had to say....sweeeeeeet!

Can't wait to mess around with it a bit more when I'm done with work. This is fantastic and I'm sure I will learn a lot from this rig :thumbsup:

chikega

11-25-2003, 11:32 PM

That's one sweet looking rig ... I really like those visual controls. They look like armatures but they're 3d not 2d ... they're meshes that you made in another 3d program? Cool.

Sil3

11-26-2003, 01:25 AM

Originally posted by My Fault
I've only been playing with it for a few minutes (I should actually be working) but I just had to say....sweeeeeeet!

Can't wait to mess around with it a bit more when I'm done with work. This is fantastic and I'm sure I will learn a lot from this rig :thumbsup:

Thanks, glad you liked it :D

Any doubts be sure to ask :)

Sil3

11-26-2003, 01:28 AM

Originally posted by chikega
That's one sweet looking rig ... I really like those visual controls. They look like armatures but they're 3d not 2d ... they're meshes that you made in another 3d program? Cool.

Thanks :beer:

Yap those are simple models i made in LW, regular not like 2 point poly objects, then i just changed the visibility to E (wireframe in messiah).

vingolliang

11-26-2003, 11:50 AM

the link is broken
plz post again:beer:

vingolliang

11-26-2003, 11:53 AM

the link is broker:p

Sil3

11-26-2003, 05:13 PM

UPDATED URL:

http://www.carnera3d.de/goblin_sil3_rig_final.mpj

THANKS to Carnera for letting me upload it to he´s website, be sure to also check it, he´s a gifted artist

http://www.carnera3d.de

:beer: :buttrock: :beer:

kvernon

11-26-2003, 05:53 PM

Sil3, your rig turned out beautifully! :buttrock:

Sil3

11-26-2003, 08:50 PM

Originally posted by kvernon
Sil3, your rig turned out beautifully! :buttrock:

Thanks :D

chikega

11-26-2003, 08:57 PM

Originally posted by Sil3
UPDATED URL:

http://www.carnera3d.de/goblin_sil3_rig_final.mpj

THANKS to Carnera for letting me upload it to he´s website, be sure to also check it, he´s a gifted artist

http://www.carnera3d.de

:beer: :buttrock: :beer:

He's great - I have his LW training DVD - beautifully put together:)

kvernon

11-26-2003, 09:00 PM

chikega, Wish I could, I don't have an international dvd player :'( The one on the 'puter will but only a total of 6times :cry: The dvd did look like it was chalked full of great schtuff!

Sil3

11-26-2003, 09:13 PM

Originally posted by kvernon
chikega, Wish I could, I don't have an international dvd player :'( The one on the 'puter will but only a total of 6times :cry: The dvd did look like it was chalked full of great schtuff!

When i bought my DVD player a couple years ago for the PC, first thing i asked was if it was possible to "crack" it so that i could see all regions Disc´s, they sayed yes at the store, got home, searched for a tool to let me change that, apllyed it and bingo, i can see all Regions DVD. It was similar to Flash a MotherBoard BIOS, if it fries it fries.

Is it legal to do it? To be honest i really dont give a F****, im not gonna buy 2 DVD Drives so that i can watch Region 1 and 2 Discs.

Anyway, search on the net for unlockers to your DVD Brand, sometimes on some of them cant be done :hmm:

IanBlackford

11-26-2003, 09:32 PM

i agree

its definately worth hunting 'round for a 'tool' to sort your dvd drive out.

i do this with mine in my pc my dvd-rom drive happens to be a hitachi one and theres a cool lil app that basically resets the counter whenever i want :cool: sweet eh? i'm pretty sure i can flash it as well but its [I]so easy with this tool that i've never felt the need :)

i'm sure you'll be able to find something if worse came to worse you could always pick up an 'el-cheapo'© [;) lol] brand one and 'tweak' that. you can pick up dvd-rom drives up dirt cheap now, i know its not the ideal solution but just suggesting a last resort :)

good luck
monsieurblack

dpvtank

11-27-2003, 02:00 AM

wov

I love the rig..not I don't have enough technical knowledge to comment about rigs..but I like it since it gave me a lot of controls and its very easy to use..love it.

Sil3

11-27-2003, 10:04 AM

That was the spirit of the rig, u dont need to understand how it works, just grab the Controls and start animating :bounce:

MoodyB

12-30-2003, 09:45 PM

Originally posted by kvernon
chikega, Wish I could, I don't have an international dvd player :'( The one on the 'puter will but only a total of 6times :cry: The dvd did look like it was chalked full of great schtuff!

Sorry to dig up an old thread, but if you didnt manage to find a flash update for your dvd drive to allow all region playback, then get DVD Region Free from http://www.dvdidle.com ( costs$40 ). It will allow any region dvd playback on any pc dvd player afaik. There's a trial version as well.

pabloD

12-31-2003, 02:53 AM

Nice rig Sil3.

Very user friendly. I especially like how the hand sliders work.

I did have a slight problem.

I got an error message saying that a morph file wasn't found (didn't even know it was possible for a file to be omitted when saving a prj... perhaps the targets weren't in the project path?). Here's the file it was looking for.

C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator\Desktop\GoblinRig\Goblin\Objects\Goblin_Tripled_morphs.lwo

Because of this the Goblin won't frown.

Nice work regardless. Thanks for sharing.

Zoogie

12-31-2003, 05:35 AM

very nice rig indeed,Sil3.
I hope to learn some more from this. I especially like the use of objects as "armatures" in place of nulls. Very nice touch.

maks

12-31-2003, 02:37 PM

Hmm, this file still crashes on me after a couple of seconds, on my two machines, my Centrino Laptop, and my Athlon XP PC. The morph can't be found at scene load. I think it's related to Superblender (I use the latest version 1.0c), I just did a test with an endomorph object here, saving an mpj file, and when I move the object from its directory, I get the same message when I reload the scene, and messiah crashes after a couple of seconds... Maybe you could make a version of this rig without superblender and endomorphs, but with a regular morph, just to make sure...?

:shrug:

M.

maks

12-31-2003, 05:05 PM

Ok, I sorted this problem out with Mark Wilson. Since messiah doesn't save the endomorphs in mpj files, you have to specify the physical lwo objects. When I can do this everything works fine, when I cancel the request, messiah will crash after a short period here. Mark might find a solution with pmG for this, since the morphs in mpj files with SuperBlender won't work if you don't have the lwo file available, in some cases messiah can crash. So, in the meantime it might be a good idea to include the object file, or not to use SB when you want to share an mpj with morphs in it. :)

M.

Sil3

01-02-2004, 06:04 PM

Got it :)

I forgot that issue with SB last time, sorry guys :blush:

I´ll include it ASAP, need to talk with Carnera since he´s hosting it :P

Glad people are liking the rig.

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