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leandroom
05-11-2012, 04:02 AM
Hello friends.

Recently bought a laptop with quadro 5010m for use in 3ds Max. The intention was to improve the performance of the viewport.

Unfortunately I discovered too late that the 3ds Max performance driver (MAXtreme) is not available for this quadro, which is the top for notebooks.

I'm putting here a conversation I'm having with nvidia support.

I ask everyone to think carefully before buying this quadro, because will be disappointed.


Customer Leandro Martins via CSS Web 05/07/2012 02:06 PM

Quadro 5010m donīt have 3ds Max Performance Driver?



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Response Cindy via Email 05/08/2012 09:37 AM

Hello Leandro,

That is correct. The Quadro 5010M does not have 3ds Max Performance Drivers.

Regards,

NVIDIA Customer Support

Customer Leandro Martins via CSS Web 05/08/2012 05:38 PM

Thanks for the answer

3ds max performance driver will not be released in future for this quadro?

I just purchased a notebook just to come with this quadro, and could buy a desktop quadro.

This quadro card is top to notebooks and should have a support and drivers like the others.

Regards,

Leandro


Response Cindy via Email 05/09/2012 12:14 PM

Hello Leandro,

Please tell me what version of 3ds Max you are using.

Regards,

NVIDIA Customer Support


Customer Leandro Martins via CSS Web 05/09/2012 12:47 PM

Hello Cindy,

I have 3ds max 2010 and I will buy the 2013 next week. I will use both

I just bought quadro 5010m for my viewport support more polygons and vrayproxyies.

Regards,

Leandro


Response Cindy via Email 05/09/2012 02:46 PM

Hello Leamdro,

Thank you for the additional information. The 3ds Max Performance Drivers were never available for laptops.

For your laptop and the desktop that you plan on getting, you can use a plug in named iray that will use the GPU (CUDA) for acceleration.

Click on the link below for more information on iray:
http://area.autodesk.com/blogs/shane/the_iray_faq

I cannot tell you what will be available for support on the 2013 version of 3ds Max.

You can see the list of drivers that Autodesk certified for their software and the NVIDIA hardware.

Click on the link below to see this list:
http://usa.autodesk.com/adsk/servlet/index?siteID=123112&id=14960164&linkID=9241178

Regards,

NVIDIA Customer Support


Customer Leandro Martins via CSS Web 05/09/2012 05:01 PM

Hello Cindy,


Why then on the link below has 3ds max performance driver for the quadro fx 3800 notebook serie?

The nvidia site is wrong?

http://www.nvidia.com/Download/index.aspx?lang=en-us

Else, Iray and vrayrt are renderers and do nothing to viewport. They still have many bugs and are not intended for professional jobs. Vrayrt does not render proxies, so I'm still dependent on conventional rendering by cpu.

I work with architecture and landscape in 3ds max since version 4, and I was always interested in my viewport quadro to accelerate, especially in scenes with several towers and many trees, vegetation and complex textures. During production of the scenes is very important to have a quick viewport.

Too bad the lag when you're spreading the vegetation for example.


Anyway. I hope that due attention for quadro notebooks. The notebook workstation market has increased.

I bought a clevo with quadro 5010m, intel i7 3930k (yes, they are using desktop cpu) and 32gb of ram. Except for the fact that my quadro does not seem as professional as well, I have a notebook that is much better than desktop workstation.

I think it's very precarious information about the advantages of quadro on the geforce in the 3ds max. And worse still talking about the advantages of quadro desktop on the quadro notebook.

Nvidia not have the ability to create a 3dsmax performance driver for quadro notebook?

This is very funny to report to the various forums in the world of computer graphics.

I'm very disappointed.


Anyway, thank you for your attention.

Leandro Martins.


Response Cindy via Email 05/10/2012 03:06 PM

Hello Leandro,

I apologize for misspelling your name.

Actually, you are right. For some reason I was thinking of the GeForce based notebooks..

I do understand the difference between rendering and viewport but unfortunately as mentioned, there is no Performance driver available for 3ds Max for the Quadro 5010M. I do realize how important it is.

Regards,

NVIDIA Customer Support


Customer Leandro Martins via CSS Web 05/10/2012 08:35 PM

No problem Cindy. Many people for other countries are confused with my name, and my English is not so good :P

But anyway, I ask for software engineering at NVIDIA to develop the drivers for quadro notebook series, because many users of 3dsmax are migrating to high-performance notebooks, and if the nvidia makes the best video card for notebooks, she should have the same respect that the quadro for desktop.

Is not possible to be so hard to produce this driver, do not you think?

Regards,

Leandro Martins

olson
05-11-2012, 07:00 PM
Just because the graphics drivers are not optimized for Max doesn't mean you're dead in the water. It still works, yes? Just with the normal graphics drivers instead.

vlad
05-11-2012, 07:27 PM
I thought Nvidia completely abandoned Maxtreme drivers since Max 2011 or 2012...
Either way, I dont think you should expect a drastic performance increase from Quadros (compared to Gforces) in Max. Perhaps a bit more in wireframe.

leandroom
05-11-2012, 07:51 PM
The quadro is sold as being superior in the viewport and it was precisely why I bought it.

I will not use it to render. Just want my viewport faster.

I think a disregard for a consumer to sell a card that is supposed to be recommended by a software hoping to outperform a geforce and then see that the card was abandoned.

I got to test the quadro fx3800 desktop with and without the maxtreme and gave a lot of performance difference in the viewport.

If the driver does not throw more, so the least we expect is a good reason, since the nitrous is full of bugs, just look at the board of Autodesk and others. Precisely why not buy 3ds max 2012. It is faster, but with the problems of poly modeling, boolean, maps, does not pay.

coldside-digital
05-12-2012, 11:25 AM
Yep, since the introduction of Nitrous in 2012, there is no benefit to the driver so it won't be developed for future versions of max.

leandroom
05-12-2012, 03:54 PM
I think most people who like nitrous max 2012, did not test it for long.

Nitrous has many problems in polygonal modeling, booleans and textures. The forum is full of Autodesk claims it.

I do not know now max 2013, but 2012 was not very good on nitrous.

For anyone who is dependent on the direct x and makes giant projects with several towers and different objects which can not use instances, hundreds of different species of vegetation with multiple instances, etc., is very important to have a driver of performance for him, which was nvidia's initial proposal.

3ds max users with different applications have different needs, and is not just a small part benefit. Further that most people to use the same perspective architecture.

5010m is a good sign, but could be better to have this driver.

vlad
05-12-2012, 05:46 PM
Well, comes a point in very large scenes with tons of vegetation and many buildings with large textures etc that even the fastest and most expensive graphic cards wont be of any help anyway. All you're left to do is manage your scenes wisely, use layers, xrefs, adaptative degradation, proxies etc. As for Nitrous, it works great for some types of objects and fails on many others. Still WIP, I guess...
Oh and good luck trying to convince Nvidia to pick up Maxtreme development ;)

leandroom
05-13-2012, 10:31 PM
I manage well my scenes. I use xref, proxies, etc..

But when we are spreading vegetation, we must see what is happening.

It is horrible to spread as proxies box or point. After the time of render, we need to be checking and arranging the positions of the proxies. That's why I bought the quadro.

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