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Zinge
11-15-2003, 08:39 AM
I modeled the five main B-17's in Maya 4.5, while the backdrop was made in Terragen, and composited in Photoshop.
Each of the aircraft has different nose art as well as a different tail number, and a BASIC interior.
Polly count: 8956

Any comment/constructive criticism is welcome.

Http://www.zinge.net/B-17g.jpg

Http://www.zinge.net/B-17g2.jpg

Http://www.zinge.net/B-17g3.jpg

Max Blast
11-15-2003, 03:13 PM
i love that "old Photograph"-look!!!

JasonA
11-15-2003, 05:13 PM
that's anm excellent comosite render, I'm really impressed with the realism :buttrock: . the degredation of the photo really adds that perfect touch. It really does look like an originaly WWII photo. Fantastic work, and great image :)

TheShaddix
11-15-2003, 05:21 PM
danm!, that reminds me of the WW2. I think it would shock everyone if you made a little animation.
Amazing work man.

Zinge
11-15-2003, 07:45 PM
Thanks! :beer:
As for an animation.... it's a good idea. I'll have to work on it, and post the progress, once I'm finished with my current projects.

ANY more suggestions :lightbulb and comments ARE WELCOME!


I will be posting more soon...

emm
11-15-2003, 08:14 PM
excelent stuff!

love the old-pic feel to it. though I could also liked to
se a more clean render of the same scene.

" ..more like the Taken series intro, that stuffs just great! "

good job.

-m

Xtra
11-15-2003, 08:26 PM
Really great work, but for me it's a little bit too grainy. I saw some of those WW2 photos, they didn't look that old.
Anyway, it looks great.

Zinge
11-15-2003, 10:11 PM
Thanks all!

Xtra, the Grain IS a bit large in the final depiction, but it is also a small print, high-resolution image (4000 X 3000, 600dpi, 7''x5''). So I figured it would kind of even it's self out in the end.

My main inspiration were from these Photos:
http://www.wpafb.af.mil/museum/research/bombers/b2-21.htm

And per your request, emm3d:

http://zinge.net/b-17clean.jpg

FatJoe
11-16-2003, 01:30 AM
I love it! :bowdown:

The old photo effect there just fits right in and looks awsome.
Going as my desktop picture ;)

Nice Job :applause:

Cheers
Joe

Zinge
11-16-2003, 04:10 AM
Thanks FatJoe! You'll have to send me a printScrn of your desktop. :beer:

I have made other posts but due to the fact that I'm a new member to CGTalk they have been delayed, I hope they all arrive soon.

Nazeil
11-16-2003, 05:02 AM
always like that piece. Once again good work.

you should post the breakdown animation.

Skyraider3D
11-16-2003, 02:57 PM
The old photograph look works really well :thumbsup:
But the shape of the B-17 model is not vey accurate, which (for me) destroys the illusion it's a real photograph instantly... :rolleyes:

Next time you make an aircraft model, pay close attention to the accuracy, and you could make a killer image! :buttrock:

horoXhoro
11-16-2003, 03:12 PM
great job....:thumbsup:

erm..isit the aircraft abit too shiny..?

keep it up dude :bounce:

Zinge
11-16-2003, 04:38 PM
Skyraider3D - what parts are not very accurate? I would like to fix them later; plus if you have some good reference pictures to share it would be greatly appreciated. :)


horoXhoro - check out some of the photos here:
http://www.wpafb.af.mil/museum/rese...mbers/b2-21.htm
I think you'll see that they are shiny... thy even look a bit too shiny in some real pictures like this one:
http://www.wpafb.af.mil/museum/research/bombers/b17g-26d.jpg

Nazeil - Thanks!

Skyraider3D
11-16-2003, 05:39 PM
Zinge,

Your model is slightly off in proportions and angles all over, but most noticably the wings and vertical tail. They're too tapered. The trailing edge of the vertical tail is too round as well. The tail is too tapered as well, resulting in a too-small tail turret area. The cockpit is somewhat squashed too.

Have a look here for some good B-17G drawings:
http://www.airwar.ru/other/draw/b17.html
Place these in your viewports (ALWAYS do this when modelling aircraft/cars/...) and compare. You'll notice numerous differences. Modelling an aircraft from photographs only is very difficult and will usually result in a model that's slightly off in all proportions.

By the way, I don't think your aircraft are too glossy, but the example you gave is not a very good one :) The photo shows a B-17 in 'natural metal' finish (i.e. non-painted), while yours are camouflaged in a matt paint.

Hope this helps!


PS. Also have a look on this page:
http://www.aircraftresourcecenter.com/walk-props.htm
It has a couple of excellent walkaround galleries of surviving B-17s. But when using these as a reference, always remember that these restored machines might carry non-authentic equipment and markings.

Zinge
11-16-2003, 06:40 PM
WOW, Skyraider3D that Diagram is great. :beer: Thank man. I agree with the tapering problem... I will try and re-model it, soon. I think it will be my next project, a B-17-G bomber animation. Thanks

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