CGTalk - My first proper wings model

jamacsween

11-12-2003, 03:19 PM

last one...smoothed body. I know that the legs dont quite touch but this is just a preliminary with it all pulled roughly into shape. I don't really like the back as it feels a little manufactured.....

JA

jamacsween

11-12-2003, 03:23 PM

one more of the head...

Peter Reynolds

11-12-2003, 04:25 PM

lookin good

jamacsween

11-12-2003, 04:36 PM

thanks:)

J.K.Makowka

11-12-2003, 08:54 PM

Looks good, but absolutly not anatomical correct...I might be a bit over sensitive since I am studing biology and we just had spiders in class but I suggest you do more research if you want it to be correct. I can't really describe all the errors, just search the internet for some scientific information on spiders.

jamacsween

11-13-2003, 08:24 AM

Thanks for the feedback. If you can suggest any websites then please do so and I can take a look.

Cheers

JA

Michael

11-14-2003, 08:16 AM

1st of all, the model is missing pedipalps (2 short "legs" between leg 1 and the chelicerae (fangs, probably miss-spelled)
The legs of arachnids also have 7 segments.

There are tons of images of spiders on the internet, some of them taken by me :D

Michael

jamacsween

11-14-2003, 08:22 AM

Thanks michael, I will do a little more research. I want to finsish this off and perhaps retry a more anatomically correct version.

Cheers JA

Herbal_Ice

11-17-2003, 05:26 AM

keep up the good work man its not a bad model .. just keep modeling and you'll get better

jamacsween

11-18-2003, 09:23 AM

Thanks for the feedback. This was only a stylised model completed in lunchbreaks however I've render it out in C4D with a little background. Wouldn't want to stand on it!!!

Cheers

JA

Michael

11-19-2003, 01:42 PM

Let me search thru my harddrives for som reference images. I used to be an hobby arachlologist, and found some old description drawing, in some of the university's annals, which also contained Ingrams story/findings of Machu Pichu, interesting to read in a book thats 100+ years old.
Ill let you know if i find the "blueprint"

Michael

Michael

11-19-2003, 02:05 PM

Found one image from that book on a friends page.

http://home.no.net/sof2000/images\poec_mal.jpg

Not a common spider, but a Mygalomorph, or tarantula/birdeating spider/Earthtiger or whatever local name that are used.

If you are a beginner, a more bulkier spider would be easier to model.

Edit: bout the 7 segments, some say that there are 6, but other count for the first part where the leg meats the body, not seeable on this image.

Michael

jamacsween

11-19-2003, 04:08 PM

Thanks for that:thumbsup:

If you can post a side and front view of the same then I can try and redo it a bit better.

Thanks for any help.

JA

Michael

11-19-2003, 11:03 PM

Um when i thought of it there were only that drawing, and some of the legs themselves.
But if you do a search on google on Poecilotheria you will find images of the spider, I dont remember which species this one is, but theyre pretty much the same, with some color variations. side and front views are not used much in taxanomy.
I did photgraph a few of them once, but did not take the time to take front and side view, theyre fast and nasty, running on vertical glass.
And i did look thru my taxanomy books, but couldnt find any.

Michael

jamacsween

11-20-2003, 08:13 AM

Thanks for your help michael.

I will have a look on the web using the term you suggested.

Best regards

John

puzzledpaul

11-20-2003, 12:30 PM

<< where the leg meats the body, not seeable on this image >>

Dunno if these help - from a couple of slides I took some while ago.

pp

www.geocities.com/paulthepuzzles/spiderpix.html

(Pix won't stay up for ever, btw )

jamacsween

11-20-2003, 12:43 PM

Grabbed them....Thank Puzzled paul

JA

jamacsween

11-20-2003, 02:26 PM

Thanks to ll for the feedback.

Ive used the image and will now try and d amore realistic version of a tarantula.

Done a couple of legs and heres an unsmoothed screenshot.

Any C&C welcome.

JA

jamacsween

11-20-2003, 02:29 PM

and heres a smoothed version....

jamacsween

11-21-2003, 09:34 AM

OK, finished the leg outline and will try and spend some time on the body later.

Any C&C?

JA

jamacsween

11-28-2003, 10:57 AM

Right,

I'm finished this model to the level of detail I'm going to take it.

Its been a great learning experience and if I get some time will try and render out in C4D.

Heres a view of the underside....

jamacsween

11-28-2003, 10:58 AM

and heres the top....

Any comments and crits very welcome and thanks to Michael for his image and feedback.

dpvtank

12-05-2003, 03:10 AM

looking great?

can you most a bigger version of the finished work...possibly shaded? or atleast with GI?

jamacsween

12-05-2003, 08:32 AM

Sure.

Heres an upper view...

jamacsween

12-05-2003, 08:35 AM

and a lower one..

Thanks for the interest and any C&C on this attempt will be well received (if good or bad).

JA

dpvtank

12-07-2003, 06:39 AM

looking great :D

maybe you should try a Weta [pun intended].

jamacsween

12-08-2003, 08:43 AM

Sorry????:shrug:

Shelob?? Might need to be a bit fatter.........But haven't seen the last film yet.

I hope that the Christopher Tolkien issues are resolved as a Hobbit film in a couple f years would be great. Think what they could do with Smaug..

Thanks for th ecomments.

JA

dpvtank

12-12-2003, 04:20 AM

Weta = not shelob

Weta is a name of an insect in New Zealand.

That's where the name comes...WETA Digital.

jamacsween

12-12-2003, 07:32 AM

Aaaahh,

I see....sorry...completely took the wrong track there..

JA

Jb5k1

12-15-2003, 08:46 PM

Nice work

Some opinions of mine, the first spider looks more robot like (don't know if that's what you wanted, but is what I see)

the second one, although not finished, would look a little better with more detail on the top, like the bottom has, even though the picture isn't all that spectacular for reference.

Anyway, it's lookin great!:beer: :buttrock: :thumbsup:

jamacsween

12-17-2003, 08:57 AM

Hi jb5k1,

Thanks for the feedback. This was an excercise in trying to improve my modelling skills.

I am now moving on to another topic, a modern azimuthing tug model (see wings 3d forum).

This model is free for anyone who wants to use it and take it further. Would like to see what becomes of it.

JA

noen

12-26-2003, 10:55 PM

FYI

jamacsween's first spider was based on squidnics screenshots on his site and is a pretty faithful model - its meant to look that way

(just d/l'ed wings and looking forward to trying it out)

brenda

jamacsween

12-29-2003, 08:47 AM

Hi Brenda,

Look forward to seeing what you proiduce with Wings£D. Please ping me and let me know when you first post.

Cheers

JA

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