charachter : agent x

[Facial Deluxe]

Jimy Neutron as teen ?
Hhehehe coming nice chris :) :thumbsup:

[proton]

Very cool...I love the hair....is he gonna be a surfer?

[Pi3141]

Looks Very Cool!

I really like the hair, And your lighting setup is awesome.

Any idea's so far for the body?

[carbon8]

Sweet!...
Cool hair. I'm with proton.

[AstroSanchezz]

:) nice
will be waiting for the body hehe

[kurt30]

groovy dude...give it some edge like the terrorist model. Don't be swayed by some of these politically correct wimps lurking around here.

[projectcoil]

"The vast majority of the race, whether savage or civilized, are secretly kind-hearted and shrink from inflicting pain, but in the presence of the aggressive and pitiless minority they don't dare to assert themselves." -Mark Twain

[telamon]

et c'est reparti :D

Wonderful model, very low poly count, lot of character.

Hair is funny and has areas for nice rigging and animation (like elvis at the end of a concert when all the grease he had on it has melted and disappeared).

Perhaps you could reduce hair volume at the back of the head.

[oxyg3n]

I cant believe that you are already started on a new model. I cant wait to see how this one turns out.

[TheFreak]

Jeeze i wish i was this good!!!

and you churn this stuff out so fast!!
It's looking great and that is some pretty funky hair going on.

also agree with proton on the surfer thing :)

[xtrm3d]

hhhaararrrrrrgghh.
i wanted to stay away of the computer for the week end..
but this small evil thing i calling me.. in my sleep.. ..!!
i hate it..
yes i hate lw for making me addict !!...lol


well look we are going for a less " clean" look http://www.xtrm3d.com/bilder/wip5/wip3.jpg

[Pi3141]

lol he is so cool. I thought he was going to be a young boy at first.... lol he looks awesome.

Looks like he's in disguise for somthing, which goes well with "agent x"


:beer:

[oxyg3n]

wow, i really like his facial hair, it gives him a lot of character.

Can you show us how you set up your lighting? I am interested in seeing your setup.

[Shade01]

Wow, that's awesome:thumbsup: I'm totally digging the hair!

[dickma]

To xtrm3d:

Do you make animation? or just modeling?

[Miyazaki]

:beer: LOL That`s a funny guy. Proton stoned:argh:

[mossou]

your outta control.... There is no excuse for that.... Dude work like that belongs to the world you need to find a venue to let them have it. Your the man...

[xtrm3d]

sooooo..
i would say .. now this guy is ready to be rigged ,animated and rendered in messiah :-)


http://www.xtrm3d.com/bilder/wip5/wip3.jpg


Do you make animation? or just modeling?
yes i do animation too.. but most of my animation work cannot be show cause of NDA
have to admit .. that i dont feel that i am a so good animator.. ( lake of timing )



Can you show us how you set up your lighting? I am interested in seeing your setup

sorry .. i am affraid that i have to disapoint you.. cause that nothing fancy..
just 4 light .. 1 area , 3 spot some shadow on , some shadow off .. hoo and yes.. colored light :-)

[Pi3141]

This guy looks awesome. Very cool boots and gloves ;)

[carbon8]

SWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEET!
Can't wait to see him in action xtrm3d.

[xtrm3d]

http://www.xtrm3d.com/temp/gentxrotaon.gif

:wip: :wavey:

[LFGabel]

Nice! I really like this. :thumbsup: The only thing that "bothers" me is the raised "creases" on both sides of his crotch area (is that supposed to be his hip/pelvis bone?), and the symmetry of his beard (especially the front part).

Other than that, animate him!! Let's see Agent X in axion!

PS: is that an X-Files logo? :)

[Kvaalen]

Looks cool! I really like it. :thumbsup:

BTW, did you use the same boots from your sister vasquez? (modified a bit ofcourse.) :)

[feefunk]

umm... where are his kneecaps? :shrug:

[xtrm3d]

umm... where are his kneecaps?^
do you mean the armor thing ? like skateboarder ?
no..no.. i just did him to test messiah.. i dont think that i want to have too much stuff to bother about in the rigging process

BTW, did you use the same boots from your sister vasquez? (modified a bit ofcourse.)

gotcha !! yes i did..i have asort of object library with all my stuff inside .. and sometime when i am not inspired or dont need anything exclusiv .. i canibalize and modify .. old stuff to make them fit my need

The only thing that "bothers" me is the raised "creases" on both sides of his crotch area (is that supposed to be his hip/pelvis bone?), and the symmetry of his beard (especially the front part).

no i that should be some cloth crease.. heavy leather suit ..
but cause of his big balls.. i gave some wrinkle in this area ..
without them .. he is too sleek looking


is that an X-Files logo?

no..it´s a "X" trm3d logo :drool:


Other than that, animate him!! Let's see Agent X in axion!

would need first to figurte how the rigging process in messiah work..
and i am not sure that i would be allowed to continue to post him in the lw section ..cause i plan to render in messiah

[LFGabel]

Originally posted by xtrm3d
no i that should be some cloth crease.. heavy leather suit ..
but cause of his big balls.. i gave some wrinkle in this area ..
without them .. he is too sleek looking

The only reason I asked is that the rest of his suit (except for his gloves and boots) is sleek and smooth.

Seemed out of place.

my 2¢..

[DaveLEWIS]

Hi,

That is realy nice.

From boy to man in one thread, hehe.

I realy like the way U make the boots.

U going to post ur animation tests?

Best Wishes

daveythegravy

[policarpo]

flawless!

flawless!

flawless!!!!

:beer:

[Remi]

xtrm....nice work bud...pumping these out like a mad man of late....keep em coming....is there a purpose for this guy? Animations perhaps:)

[5TEF]

one more time,
great character Chris ! :beer:

[Infinity3d4life]

Man i have to learn how to make wrinkles and stuff like you have in the boots.. Awesome as usual..

[feefunk]

Originally posted by xtrm3d
do you mean the armor thing ? like skateboarder ?
no..no.. i just did him to test messiah.. i dont think that i want to have too much stuff to bother about in the rigging process

No, I meant the character's actual kneecaps, the BONE that defines the knee.

It seems to be missing, just an observation regarding the anatomy.

[telamon]

Nice character, very strong pose, looking forward to seeing him walking. So simple to give a personnality to a character through a pose. Remarkable Idea XTRM3D.

Nevertheless I am afraid the rigging will be a bit more complicated than usually, if you plan to have an expression controller for the whole spine.

I agree, with the latest poster, I can't see the kneecaps. It is perhaps because they are slightly under the boots... Perhaps you should add something to reveal them a bit more.

Originally posted by xtrm3d
^

gotcha !! yes i did..i have asort of object library with all my stuff inside .. and sometime when i am not inspired or dont need anything exclusiv .. i canibalize and modify .. old stuff to make them fit my need


The term I have read in this forum and that I am very found of is "frankesteining". I think Larry Shultz wrote it first. It is exactly what you do :D

[Freebooter]

Originally posted by telamon
Nevertheless I am afraid the rigging will be a bit more complicated than usually, if you plan to have an expression controller for the whole spine.

Not really, in messiah can set that up with a single expression, in seconds. It's only slightly more complex if you're using an animation heirachy seperate from your deformers. The expression system is one of the best things in the messiah package.

And that is one of the coolest characters I've seen in a while. Way to go xtrm3d

[Pi3141]

The kneecap? Why it's that buldge right above the lip of the boot :surprised

Like I said before, awesome character Chris :beer:

[dickma]

Thank you for answering me, xtrm3d.

Well, another question, do your modelling works, for eg. the current one is under NDA? (I just curious and there will be a great loss to the community if all works under NDA.)

[telamon]

Originally posted by Freebooter
Not really, in messiah can set that up with a single expression, in seconds. It's only slightly more complex if you're using an animation heirachy seperate from your deformers. The expression system is one of the best things in the messiah package.

And that is one of the coolest characters I've seen in a while. Way to go xtrm3d

Thanks for the reply. I do not know Messiah :blush:

[Freebooter]

Hey, no problem Telamon,

You can check out the demo at: http://www.projectmessiah.com/

It's well worth the time spent.

[xtrm3d]

http://www.xtrm3d.com/temp/gonzowipwire.jpg


Well, another question, do your modelling works, for eg. the current one is under NDA?
well.. actually most of the stuff i show in public forum is my own private stuff..
most of the time when i work for a companny my work fall under NDA .. and i amnot allowed to show it in public :-(



agree, with the latest poster, I can't see the kneecaps. It is perhaps because they are slightly under the boots... Perhaps you should add something to reveal them a bit more.

humm look at the wire i included .. the knee are here .. but may be cause of the lighning in the rendered picture are they not so obvious ..

is there a purpose for this guy? Animations perhaps

thx remi yep..is own and unique purpose... is to be a test object for me to learn messiah :applause:
would evntually later make him availlable to download

[dickma]

xtrm3d:

Well thank you once again and I am quite appreciate you. :love: that make some really good stuffs in spare time.

PS: about the model I feel a little bit weird about the modelling of his elbow.....that's comes from my little 6th sense...

[MrWyatt]

xtremely well done as allways. only one thing that i don´t like too much, the beard. i guess it´s because i don´t like beards in real life either, but i guess that´s just me. i think he looked better without.
again, fabulous work. you are a modeling maniac. rock on.

[Facial Deluxe]

Excellent dude :wip:
Can't wait to see what you will do within Messiah ! Please post your Messiah results here too !

[proton]

very clean mesh as usual....great job!

[dzogchen]

Oh my! Another cool model! Let us know how you are doing with Messiah. :applause:

[S.Beres]

Haha Really cool character:bounce:

[xtrm3d]

oooo.. it´s look that i would not continue this one in messiah ..
i have prepare new stuff to put in my reel .. in the next really short time..
dont have time to learn a new applictaion at the moment ..
messiah rooxxx.. but i suxx at learning a new workflow.. in short time..

humm.. then.. let´s stay with lw for rigging an animating...at least for the next time


just an early deformation test .. the weight map are not 100 % done.. and the ik setup is not finished



http://www.xtrm3d.com/bilder/wip5/wip4.jpg

[Pi3141]

This looks awesome. I love the poses!

I'd really love to see this character in motion :bounce: :bounce:

[telamon]

I love the poses too. One comment. This character seems very dynamic and powerful. But his type of eye glasses are rather for scientists....

He could be much finer with rectangle eyeglasees IMO :beer:

[robinson]

very nice character christophe !!!
:thumbsup:

[dickma]

By looking at those renders the upper arms are too weird and incompatible.

The skin tone doesn't look right with his red uniform.... and the arms modelling is too simple with no muscles defined.

Last, I think he should have a smarter glasses.....may be the X-Men like but not the two circles.

[Chagidiel]

Very cool model! The face and hair is just great; modelling, detail, style. The idea and execution of the beard is awesome.

I agree totally with mister Ma up here about the arms though. They need muscle definition and some work on the shading. Looking at the wires, I see something strange in the way you have modelled the biceps. Sorry to just heave that out, but I can´t really put my finger on what it is. Maybe it might be the lower row of polys (downward towards the armjoint) that I think shouldn´t belong to the actual bicep. But you know your modelling, I´m sure you´ll figure it out (if you even find it strange as I).

The boots and gloves are so perfect! Have you tried giving them another color than the suite, or perhaps just a darker tint of red?

[dickma]

Hey, don't call me Mr. Ma (hehe!). I just feel I am a stranger.

Well. Beside the arms, I would like to see some ab. muscles.

[dcp]

Wow, this is amazing, lol can't wait to see a final animation if you make one.

[Plasticbag]

nice model & clean mesh!
i prefer the non-bearded version. somehow the short beard hides his defined chin & kindsa breaks it up

[xtrm3d]

@ Dick Ma

hi,
thanx for your critique..
but i think that i would leave him the way he is now..
actually i feel the nedd to do some new charachter animation..and i just builded him for the purpose of animation..

so or so i dont go for realistic.. but more for a stylised version..
agree about the skin tone.. and the glove/boot should be darker ..
but for the geometry.. sorry i leave it this way.. ( work really nice with cel shader :-)

:wavey:

@Chagidiel
please see the first answer :cool:

ok.. do not expect to get update in the next time..
i have to fight to reinstall my both computer .. , :blush: :hmm:

[5TEF]

very cool model Chris..
i like the hair ! ;)

just a question : could you show us the bones system ?
:drool:

[dickma]

Hi extm3d,

For you, it is a very easy task to enhance the model better (just smooth shift, smooth shift and smooth shift), and the little enhancement can leads to a win-win situation, good in modeling and good in animation.

And you own the model, why not save a copy and play with it to see the differences?

I have expectation.

[Chagidiel]

Agree again with Dick Ma :wip:
"Do or do not - there is no try" - Master yoda :wise:

(Sorry for calling you mister. No harm intended, I just thaught it sounded cool :) )

[dickma]

You're Welcome, Chagidiel.;)

I always cool! Even without Mister.:beer:

[policarpo]

PSsst....hey kids.

Getting ready to upload a 1600x1200 render of Agent X for you all.

Thanks for the scene and model Christophe! You Rock!


:buttrock:

[kurv]

Christophe, simply amazing!!! Do you have any tutorials online..?

[policarpo]

grab it now!!!

http://www.policarpo.us/samples/DESSE_wallpaper.jpg

[eggy]

The character looks pretty cool, but what's the whole hype about :shrug:
Sorry about this comment, don’t take it personal xtrm3d, but did you ever started a wip in the Serious Critique Forums on this board ?

I’m just to honest, now everybody really hates me. :cry:

[Pi3141]

Kickass wallpaper. Damn, how long did that take to render?

The character looks pretty cool, but what's the whole hype about

I don't know if you would call it hype. I see it as a community appreciating anothers skills as an artist and a LWaver. And thats a very cool thing.

As for the character, i think it kicks ass. Xtrm3d, always does such stylish characters that are so full of perosnality and life. This is a really hard thing to do.

Just because you can model a character doesn't mean it comes built with a personality. The artist puts that in there too! This is somthing XTRM3d always does so well it personally impresses me every single time as I know first hand how hard this is to do.

:beer:

[policarpo]

Originally posted by eggy
The character looks pretty cool, but what's the whole hype about :shrug:
Sorry about this comment, don’t take it personal xtrm3d, but did you ever started a wip in the Serious Critique Forums on this board ?

I’m just to honest, now everybody really hates me. :cry:

I think "honesty" entails actually critiquing a subject matter with objectivity.

so tell us, what do you think about the model since you brought up the subject mr honesty.

:drool:

and...it took about 30minutes to render on a piece of crap P3 1ghz box

[policarpo]

1 more wallpaper

http://www.policarpo.us/samples/desse_2.jpg

[policarpo]

and the last one:

http://www.policarpo.us/samples/desse3.jpg

[Pi3141]

Man, that character looks so cool when he's massive. I'm rendering out a HUGE neo thanks to you lol

Not sure what I will do with it, besides shrink it down later :surprised

[takkun]

That's a really cool model/render! But I do have a "big" (<----- that's a pun) problem with it, it looks like he has a rolled up sock in his undies, or maybe it's a spare grenade, or a baby kangaroo in a pouch. Especially in poli's last render, the pose on the left.

[policarpo]

Originally posted by takkun
That's a really cool model/render! But I do have a "big" (<----- that's a pun) problem with it, it looks like he has a rolled up sock in his undies, or maybe it's a spare grenade, or a baby kangaroo in a pouch. Especially in poli's last render, the pose on the left.

Big things come in small packages.

OOps...i thought i deactivated that endomorph.

:)

[Infinity3d4life]

nice model and wallpapers.. i wish Christophe had some tutorials on modeling for us all.. i love this guys work..

[policarpo]

Decided to have a little toyish fun with these renders!

i wish I could buy these today!!!

http://www.policarpo.us/samples/agent1.jpg

http://www.policarpo.us/samples/agent2.jpg

http://www.policarpo.us/samples/agent3.jpg

[xtrm3d]

Originally posted by eggy
The character looks pretty cool, but what's the whole hype about
Sorry about this comment, don’t take it personal xtrm3d, but did you ever started a wip in the Serious Critique Forums on this board ?

I’m just to honest, now everybody really hates me.

hi eggy,
no worry i dont hate you .. it´s a free forum.. every one should express his opinion

but i dont understand what do you mean with hype ???
no front page, no 5 star, no awards..
i dont see why you think about an hype ???
no i dont post too often in the wip section...
most of the time in the lw section cause the critique are related to the software i use most of the time..
and i post in the finished section ..
wanna see last work ? got an cg talk awards..
and yes it was hyper hyped ..lol

http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=99970&highlight=vasquez

ok back to the agent x..
may be you have some constructive critique ?
or could may be tell why he dont deserve the hype ( if ever it is a hype done )


@ policarpo :
awessome work man !!!
your post process roxx..
photoshop ? or df ?

i see that you forgot again to write .. rendered and tweacked by policarpo




That's a really cool model/render! But I do have a "big" (<----- that's a pun) problem with it, it looks like he has a rolled up sock in his undies, or maybe it's a spare grenade, or a baby kangaroo in a pouch. Especially in poli's last render, the pose on the left.

haa haha.. lol.. that funny... that what we call in france "grosse couilles" fashion ..
actually cause almost never use any reference .. i just look at me in the mirrore

@ wordwarepub

no sorry i dont ..
actually i am thinking about .. a dvd or book .. or may be even a pdf tuttorial to download but .. have to see the whole stuff about pricing and need ..

[Facial Deluxe]

Good to see Agent X also has a sexual life :D Work is not everything damn'it ! :wip:

[takkun]

actually cause almost never use any reference .. i just look at me in the mirrore LOL!

Okay, I won't comment on the package anymore, I'll just consider it as Agent X's "secret weapon". :)

And you should definitely consider making some tutorials for a magazine or book or DVD. That would be great. I'm sure that everyone here would be interested in it.

[5TEF]

very very cool model and poses !!
:beer:

just a question chris : how do you texture your model ?

[kurv]

xtrm3d, if you ever want to talk about publishing a book let me know, were the largest LW publisher out their!!

[policarpo]

Christophe Desse

author of
Rapid Prototype Toys using LightWave 3D

[5TEF]

"The Universal Guide of Lightwave Prototoys"


:)

( a great future protobook ;) )

[v2n]

Very good work :buttrock:

But don't be afraid by the messiah workflow ;)

If you want, I can help you "en français" :p

[robinson]

A two star rating ???
I guess a few people are jealous about Christophe’s talent.
Looks like there are just hate and fan boys left on cgtalk.
Keep up the good work Christophe.

What’s up with the evil nun, I wanna see animations, that was defiantly your best work !!! :curious:

See you (yeah right, we will never meet, sorry):cry:
Robinson

[policarpo]

http://www.policarpo.us/samples/agentXposed.jpg

[Pi3141]

Damn... that looks freakin' awesome!

Make him sitting on your LW box ;) And for a real challenge, have him flipping through the manual.. :beer:

[robinson]

Great matching Poli, a small animation would be great ?

BTW I love these “yellow post it things” too, looks like my monitor… :argh:

[kurv]

freaking awesome guys!!!

[HowardM]

wow Poli! Thats your best comp yet!
It looks like a photo of an action figure, not a render!
as always Chris, great mesh!
You guys make me want to throw in the towel!
:)
by the way he looks like someone, cant tell who!?
The guy from the Eurythmics?! Proton?!
Kenny Loggins!?
hahaha

[policarpo]

Thanks Howard....i still need to tweak it a bit...but Christophe is working on a few more elements for the scene...it should be cool when we're done with it. :)

I am glad Christophe has given me the opportunity to render and composite his awesome work. I love being able to work with high quality work...

Oh and Howard, you'll be happy to know it was all rendered and composited on a Mac. :D

[xtrm3d]

run for cover !!!!
agent x get a gun ...harrrgggggg:wip:

tried to keep the vinyle toy look for the gun..

various inspiration.. trigun, vampir hunter, doberman ( the filme )

http://www.xtrm3d.com/temp/gonzogundone.jpg

[oxyg3n]

That comp looks nice that only thing that bother me is that it looks like there is a power book in the scene!!

[Pi3141]

WOW!! man, you can model props just as well as you model characters!!! Very nice work :)

[Chewey]

Originally posted by xtrm3d
run for cover !!!!
agent x get a gun ...harrrgggggg:wip:

tried to keep the vinyle toy look for the gun..

various inspiration.. trigun, vampir hunter, doberman ( the filme )

http://www.xtrm3d.com/temp/gonzogundone.jpg

Looks good!. I'd only recommend that a super agent would probably use an automatiic weapon. :thumbsup:

[xtrm3d]

hi chewey,
yep you are right automatic is more efficiant ...
but colt are way more glamourous :-)

[projectcoil]

Trigun, Hellsing. :buttrock: :buttrock:

[xtrm3d]

yep.. ilike trigun too..
but for agent x.. i wanted something bigger .. really bigger !!!

some quick and dirty posing test ..
http://www.xtrm3d.com/bilder/wip5/wip5.jpg
i know .. the gun is way too big .. but i like it the way is it :wavey:

[oxyg3n]

That gun is huge, it doesnt look like your guy could lift it up. But it does remind me of the huge weapons that you see anime chick with.

[Kvaalen]

Really great work! I love it! :bounce:

Originally posted by Pi3141
WOW!! man, you can model props just as well as you model characters!!! Very nice work :)

You can tell that you haven't downloaded his free model pack. ;)

He has everything from characters, guns (that could do with some edge beveling), and cars (that are [I think] frozen and trippled so you can't tell what meathod he used. Mind saying what meathod you used Chris? :) ).

[Pi3141]

That looks very cool.

I Love the massive gun! the size is very very cool. Now he needs a HUGE holster on his belt to carry the guns ;)

[Facial Deluxe]

The size of the guns totaly balance the bump in his panty ;)
Great sense of proportions here ! :bounce:

[xtrm3d]

Mind saying what meathod you used Chris?
yep.. just used most of the time ..point extender .. ometime a bit of box or cylinder modelling .. but really seldome spline..


a pics with some wireframe :
http://www.xtrm3d.com/bilder/wip5/wip6.jpg

[Nemoid]

Nice giant guns!!:scream:

[5TEF]

les flingues de fous ! :)



and what do you think about agent X with a "matrix" look ? :)

[policarpo]

please...no matrix look!

AgentX is unique and must accept his visual greatness. :)

[5TEF]

it was just a suggestion :-)

[xtrm3d]

whoaaaa.. alot of view.. and a lot of reply.. ..


a quick and dirty test ..
straight out of lw.. no postprocess...

now ready to make the base . ( want to make it look like a miniature .. you know the kind of wood socle.. with a small part of environement ?? )



http://www.xtrm3d.com/temp/gonzodirty.jpg

[Pi3141]

hahaha, oh man... the bottom right is the worlds greatest pose!! hahaha....

EXCELLENT :beer: Agent X's guns are priceless!!!!

[policarpo]

looking kick ass good!

:buttrock:

[mv]

Another excellent character! Keep rockin' dude :buttrock:

[xtrm3d]

thx a lot ..
doing now some final rendering for the 3dwork gallery at cgtalk..
would post link later when the picture are posted :-)

[HowardM]

uh? are they dead aliens in the bottom right corner, or err uh?
:)

[xtrm3d]

heheh i dont know.. may be they are french alienzz ??
haaaa l´amour on the floor :-)

ok agent x is now done.. and the case is closed..

final scene :
5 picture


http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?s=&postid=983081#post983081


go..go and support a lw thread :-) lol

let us show the world that our renderer is may be a bit old.. but still a really good one ...

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