ThirdEye
11-02-2003, 10:44 PM
SINCE THERE HAVE BEEN A GREAT SUCCESS AND SOME SMALL PROBLEMS REGARDING MESH SURGERY I DECIDED TO OPEN A STICKY THREAD FOR IT, USE THIS ONE INSTEAD OF CREATING OTHER THREADS EVERY SINGLE TIME. THANKS. :)
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droshack
11-03-2003, 03:58 AM
Hey,
My thread about sticky axis was closed. so...
I checked the sticky axis button, but still will not work when I click an axis. just works like normal c4d. I updated to 1.11, anyone else have this problem. maybe I updated incorrectly... everything works ok and does not crash.
any help greatly appreciated!!
-d
My thread about sticky axis was closed. so...
I checked the sticky axis button, but still will not work when I click an axis. just works like normal c4d. I updated to 1.11, anyone else have this problem. maybe I updated incorrectly... everything works ok and does not crash.
any help greatly appreciated!!
-d
Per-Anders
11-03-2003, 06:06 AM
Just for everyone's interest, We've set up a new Forum for Third Party and of course Mesh Surgery. Any related issues can be posted there
The forum address is:
http://www.peranders.com/forum
The forum address is:
http://www.peranders.com/forum
Per-Anders
11-03-2003, 06:10 AM
Originally posted by droshack
Hey,
My thread about sticky axis was closed. so...
I checked the sticky axis button, but still will not work when I click an axis. just works like normal c4d. I updated to 1.11, anyone else have this problem. maybe I updated incorrectly... everything works ok and does not crash.
any help greatly appreciated!!
-d
So to get this totally straight. You made sure that "Sticky axis" is on (checked). Then for instance you had hinge move with the axis, and you clicked on one of the arrow/cones and it highlighted (correct?) as you moved it. You let go of the axis, and without clicking on any other part of the axis or changing tools the axis all turned back to it's full color (i.e. the arrow you just clicked on was no longer highlighted)? Or, it did remain highlighted, but then when you clicked and dragged away from the axis (i.e. no-where near the axis, bear in mind that the cube at the centre will unlock because it sets the axis in free mode) it moved freely in all three axis, rather than just in that one axis that was highlighted. Correct?
Hey,
My thread about sticky axis was closed. so...
I checked the sticky axis button, but still will not work when I click an axis. just works like normal c4d. I updated to 1.11, anyone else have this problem. maybe I updated incorrectly... everything works ok and does not crash.
any help greatly appreciated!!
-d
So to get this totally straight. You made sure that "Sticky axis" is on (checked). Then for instance you had hinge move with the axis, and you clicked on one of the arrow/cones and it highlighted (correct?) as you moved it. You let go of the axis, and without clicking on any other part of the axis or changing tools the axis all turned back to it's full color (i.e. the arrow you just clicked on was no longer highlighted)? Or, it did remain highlighted, but then when you clicked and dragged away from the axis (i.e. no-where near the axis, bear in mind that the cube at the centre will unlock because it sets the axis in free mode) it moved freely in all three axis, rather than just in that one axis that was highlighted. Correct?
chromecity
11-03-2003, 10:55 AM
Is anybody else having any difficulty with Hinge Extrude after the second update? I can no longer get Hinge Extrude to work in Edge mode - or any mode except the new Axis mode. I can see the settings in the Active Tool panel, but nothing happens if I'm trying to use any mode other than Axis mode. No highlight of a hinge edge, no movement of anything. Is it still working for everyone else?
A small and barely-related item is that Hinge Extrude now shows up in the Mesh Surgery plugins menu above the separator that cordons off the other Hinge tools - at least that's the way it's situated on my system. Perhaps another Mesh Surgery tool being added pushed things around in the menu resource, but the 3rd Party folks might want to put all the Hinge tools back together inside the separator. I know most people probably don't even notice that since these tools are so useful they warrant proper toolbar real estate and keyboard shortcuts. I only brought this up in the extremely slight chance that it could possibly be related to the other Hinge Extrude problem I described above.
A small and barely-related item is that Hinge Extrude now shows up in the Mesh Surgery plugins menu above the separator that cordons off the other Hinge tools - at least that's the way it's situated on my system. Perhaps another Mesh Surgery tool being added pushed things around in the menu resource, but the 3rd Party folks might want to put all the Hinge tools back together inside the separator. I know most people probably don't even notice that since these tools are so useful they warrant proper toolbar real estate and keyboard shortcuts. I only brought this up in the extremely slight chance that it could possibly be related to the other Hinge Extrude problem I described above.
Gunter
11-03-2003, 11:09 AM
Exactly the same problem with Hinge Extrude, but being not sure doing anything wrong I didnīt have the heart to post :shrug:
Gunter
edit: Version 1.11
Gunter
edit: Version 1.11
Per-Anders
11-03-2003, 03:35 PM
Originally posted by chromecity
Is anybody else having any difficulty with Hinge Extrude after the second update? I can no longer get Hinge Extrude to work in Edge mode - or any mode except the new Axis mode. I can see the settings in the Active Tool panel, but nothing happens if I'm trying to use any mode other than Axis mode. No highlight of a hinge edge, no movement of anything. Is it still working for everyone else?
A small and barely-related item is that Hinge Extrude now shows up in the Mesh Surgery plugins menu above the separator that cordons off the other Hinge tools - at least that's the way it's situated on my system. Perhaps another Mesh Surgery tool being added pushed things around in the menu resource, but the 3rd Party folks might want to put all the Hinge tools back together inside the separator. I know most people probably don't even notice that since these tools are so useful they warrant proper toolbar real estate and keyboard shortcuts. I only brought this up in the extremely slight chance that it could possibly be related to the other Hinge Extrude problem I described above.
The hinge extrude bug is known and fixed for the next update. It currently only works in axis mode.
The order of items in the menu hasn't changed (hinge extrude was always above the others, becuase it's in with the what i call misc tools, mesh brush, slide, normal move) rather than straight translate tools.
Is anybody else having any difficulty with Hinge Extrude after the second update? I can no longer get Hinge Extrude to work in Edge mode - or any mode except the new Axis mode. I can see the settings in the Active Tool panel, but nothing happens if I'm trying to use any mode other than Axis mode. No highlight of a hinge edge, no movement of anything. Is it still working for everyone else?
A small and barely-related item is that Hinge Extrude now shows up in the Mesh Surgery plugins menu above the separator that cordons off the other Hinge tools - at least that's the way it's situated on my system. Perhaps another Mesh Surgery tool being added pushed things around in the menu resource, but the 3rd Party folks might want to put all the Hinge tools back together inside the separator. I know most people probably don't even notice that since these tools are so useful they warrant proper toolbar real estate and keyboard shortcuts. I only brought this up in the extremely slight chance that it could possibly be related to the other Hinge Extrude problem I described above.
The hinge extrude bug is known and fixed for the next update. It currently only works in axis mode.
The order of items in the menu hasn't changed (hinge extrude was always above the others, becuase it's in with the what i call misc tools, mesh brush, slide, normal move) rather than straight translate tools.
chromecity
11-03-2003, 04:52 PM
Thanks for the info. And thanks for straightening out my forum registration that I botched up yesterday, too. ;)
WQP
11-03-2003, 11:16 PM
Just got the update, now I'm getting the "cannot write to ....\serial.num" message (not exact message) when I try to register :(
wuensch
11-03-2003, 11:26 PM
This was not so in version 1.
I am on Win 2k
I have R 8.22,, tons of Plugins installed, but i am pretty sure this was not happening in version 1.
In Meshbrush, no matter where I turn "keep density" on it will crash Cinema---
Anyone else can confirm?
Olli
I am on Win 2k
I have R 8.22,, tons of Plugins installed, but i am pretty sure this was not happening in version 1.
In Meshbrush, no matter where I turn "keep density" on it will crash Cinema---
Anyone else can confirm?
Olli
chromecity
11-03-2003, 11:26 PM
WQP:
It sounds like you might need to pay close attention to the InstallationReadMe.txt file which includes the following instructions:
Place the MeshSurgery.xdl (mac) or MeshSurgery.cdl (pc) in your Plugins/Mesh Surgery folder inside of plugins, it will ask you if you want to overwrite, say yes.
Next copy the Contents of the MeshBrushScripts folder into your Plugins/Mesh Surgery/MeshBrushScripts/ folder
Last of all copy the contents of the folder (not the folder itself) called "Put Contents in res" into your Plugins/Mesh Surgery/res/ folder, it will ask you if you want to overwrite a few things, say yes.
It sounds like you might need to pay close attention to the InstallationReadMe.txt file which includes the following instructions:
Place the MeshSurgery.xdl (mac) or MeshSurgery.cdl (pc) in your Plugins/Mesh Surgery folder inside of plugins, it will ask you if you want to overwrite, say yes.
Next copy the Contents of the MeshBrushScripts folder into your Plugins/Mesh Surgery/MeshBrushScripts/ folder
Last of all copy the contents of the folder (not the folder itself) called "Put Contents in res" into your Plugins/Mesh Surgery/res/ folder, it will ask you if you want to overwrite a few things, say yes.
wuensch
11-03-2003, 11:27 PM
Oh, and btw.: concerning the Forum at Third party:
I am on Mozilla, cannot create a username, it all remains blank no matter what i fill in.
Olili
I am on Mozilla, cannot create a username, it all remains blank no matter what i fill in.
Olili
WQP
11-03-2003, 11:33 PM
Originally posted by chromecity
WQP:
It sounds like you might need to pay close attention to the InstallationReadMe.txt file which includes the following instructions:
Place the MeshSurgery.xdl (mac) or MeshSurgery.cdl (pc) in your Plugins/Mesh Surgery folder inside of plugins, it will ask you if you want to overwrite, say yes.
Next copy the Contents of the MeshBrushScripts folder into your Plugins/Mesh Surgery/MeshBrushScripts/ folder
Last of all copy the contents of the folder (not the folder itself) called "Put Contents in res" into your Plugins/Mesh Surgery/res/ folder, it will ask you if you want to overwrite a few things, say yes.
You are right! Heheh
WQP:
It sounds like you might need to pay close attention to the InstallationReadMe.txt file which includes the following instructions:
Place the MeshSurgery.xdl (mac) or MeshSurgery.cdl (pc) in your Plugins/Mesh Surgery folder inside of plugins, it will ask you if you want to overwrite, say yes.
Next copy the Contents of the MeshBrushScripts folder into your Plugins/Mesh Surgery/MeshBrushScripts/ folder
Last of all copy the contents of the folder (not the folder itself) called "Put Contents in res" into your Plugins/Mesh Surgery/res/ folder, it will ask you if you want to overwrite a few things, say yes.
You are right! Heheh
WQP
11-03-2003, 11:45 PM
I think my new favorite Mesh Surgery feature may be the lock mirror points expressions!!! Amazing and something I've wanted forever
Mesh Surgery ROCKS.
Mesh Surgery ROCKS.
wuensch
11-04-2003, 12:00 AM
Yess, it rocks---
How did we model without it---I have already forgottten--
Olli
How did we model without it---I have already forgottten--
Olli
droshack
11-04-2003, 01:08 AM
back a few posts...
ok, reset the defaults and sticky axis works. but have a few questions. does it only work with hinge move? when i use the sticky axis the axis handles move away from the center of the object. when I use free mode the handle stays with the object, but they move when I select any of the move/rotate/scale tools. I know documentation is coming soon and will probably explain these options... but am quite confused. thanks for any help!
-d
ok, reset the defaults and sticky axis works. but have a few questions. does it only work with hinge move? when i use the sticky axis the axis handles move away from the center of the object. when I use free mode the handle stays with the object, but they move when I select any of the move/rotate/scale tools. I know documentation is coming soon and will probably explain these options... but am quite confused. thanks for any help!
-d
nhytro
11-04-2003, 05:27 AM
Hi there Third Party! Are the "point-loop" and "Quad-loop" going to be free updates? Can one assign the "liquidpopup" or submenus to shorcuts? I īve got a spaceball 4003 thats just waiting to be configured :-)
Thanks
Thanks
chromecity
11-04-2003, 05:34 AM
Not sure what you mean by "point-loop" and "Quad-loop" potentially being free updates. Certainly Point Loop works fine as is. Have you heard something in particular about a future enhancement?
And you can definitely configure the Liquid Nitrogen popup menu to a keystroke or mouse-button combo using the typical "Edit Palettes" mechanism. Just look in the command list for "Liquid Nitrogen".
And you can definitely configure the Liquid Nitrogen popup menu to a keystroke or mouse-button combo using the typical "Edit Palettes" mechanism. Just look in the command list for "Liquid Nitrogen".
Per-Anders
11-04-2003, 05:35 AM
Hello, i'm not quite sure what you mean, Point loop and quad loop? Vertex loops and Polygon Loops have always been a part of Mesh Surgery from the off (they're already in there) and the Liquid Nitrogen tool can be assigned a shortcut just like any other command from cinema's command manager.
Per-Anders
11-04-2003, 05:35 AM
The Mesh Surgery 1.12 update is available for download.
chromecity
11-04-2003, 05:36 AM
Wow - you guys just keep on crankin'. Cool. :thumbsup:
Jake-L
11-04-2003, 07:48 AM
Thanks!
However, I'm a bit confused as to the update versions.
At Paul's site, the PC upgrade is labeled 1.11b (size 876kb, dated 04/11)
At peranders.com, it is 1.12, but dated earlier (size 620kb, dated 03/11)
Must be an oversight due to hard work ;)
However, I'm a bit confused as to the update versions.
At Paul's site, the PC upgrade is labeled 1.11b (size 876kb, dated 04/11)
At peranders.com, it is 1.12, but dated earlier (size 620kb, dated 03/11)
Must be an oversight due to hard work ;)
Per-Anders
11-04-2003, 07:55 AM
no, Paul and I are in different timezones. I posted after Paul. go by the version number, not the date.
nhytro
11-04-2003, 08:32 AM
Thanks ChromeCity and mdme_sadie for the Info, strange though, on Pauls site, the features were labeled as "coming soon"
Originally posted by mdme_sadie
Hello, i'm not quite sure what you mean, Point loop and quad loop? Vertex loops and Polygon Loops have always been a part of Mesh Surgery from the off (they're already in there) and the Liquid Nitrogen tool can be assigned a shortcut just like any other command from cinema's command manager.
Originally posted by mdme_sadie
Hello, i'm not quite sure what you mean, Point loop and quad loop? Vertex loops and Polygon Loops have always been a part of Mesh Surgery from the off (they're already in there) and the Liquid Nitrogen tool can be assigned a shortcut just like any other command from cinema's command manager.
Per-Anders
11-04-2003, 08:41 AM
not the features, just the videos of the features. (and that one is my website, not pauls).
Jake-L
11-04-2003, 09:47 AM
Ok, all clear now.
Thanks!
Thanks!
WQP
11-04-2003, 11:26 AM
Is 1.2 just 1.11 with the extra corrected file? Ie: if I've already downloaded that replacement file for 1.11b? Or is 1.2 new?
wuensch
11-04-2003, 11:37 AM
You should really make oly one file downloadable with all the necessary parts--- its really confusing, even for an old update-software veteran like me ,-)
BTW.: made a short test and it seems that All problems i had (especially the crashes on "Keep Mesh Density" are gone--
olli
BTW.: made a short test and it seems that All problems i had (especially the crashes on "Keep Mesh Density" are gone--
olli
rbf229
11-04-2003, 01:33 PM
I vaguely remember in one of your demo reels a tool that appeared to "grow out" a mesh. Did that find it's way into the finished product or will it be in a later version? The reason I ask is I didn't see it on your "Mesh Surgery Video Clips" page. It might well be an extension of one of the brush tools but I wasn't sure. Just wondering, it would be a handy tool to have.
Thanks
Rob
Thanks
Rob
moka.studio
11-04-2003, 02:13 PM
I can't figure out how to get the mesh surgery Axis to show - does it show when you use a Hinge tool, or always instead of the normal C4D axis , or when in object mode ????? Is there an option to turn on, or turn off???
I think I have the 1.11b correctly installed ( I got it from Paul/s site - ) I have the Face Axis tools for one thing...
Can anyone help?
thanks
jp
I think I have the 1.11b correctly installed ( I got it from Paul/s site - ) I have the Face Axis tools for one thing...
Can anyone help?
thanks
jp
bobzilla
11-04-2003, 03:45 PM
Not to add to the mayhem, but...
When I updated to 1.11 (I haven't done the latest yet), I noticed after cutting some loops in a rectangle with Katena, the rectangle looks bowed in the preview. Not perfectly square anymore. It kind of bulges out on the places where Katena was used. I don't remember this happening in the earlier version.
Anyone else notice this??
When I updated to 1.11 (I haven't done the latest yet), I noticed after cutting some loops in a rectangle with Katena, the rectangle looks bowed in the preview. Not perfectly square anymore. It kind of bulges out on the places where Katena was used. I don't remember this happening in the earlier version.
Anyone else notice this??
tapaul
11-04-2003, 04:12 PM
can you show a picture of this,it would be easier to understand with an image :)
cheers
Paul Everett
www.tools4d.com
cheers
Paul Everett
www.tools4d.com
bobzilla
11-04-2003, 04:14 PM
I know. I appologize. I'm at work, now, and don't have Cinema here but I'd just figured I'd ask.
When I get home, I'll post a pic.
When I get home, I'll post a pic.
tcastudios
11-04-2003, 04:25 PM
I posted this at MS-Forum but there seems to be more action here...
Make a Sphere. Select a poly. Select an edge of the poly in edgemode.
Turn on HingeExtrude and set to Local. Chose AxisMode(The Gizmo shows up). CtrlShiftClick on the Edge. The Gizmo gets in the right position along the edge.
Drag one of the bands of the Gizmo to extrude...
BANG!
Cinema crashes.
I have restarted Cinema as well as the computor and run Coctail(For permissions and stuff)
I have reset MS in Preferences.
I must say, since MS is such a fantastic tool, PLEASE, make it more stable instead of putting more functions in it. Having to find new bugs is most frustrating while modeling.
Paul and Per, donīt fall into the usuall software syndrome to make MS more than it is(a fantastic modelling tool).
I personally could do without PaintObjects....
As someone elsewhere said: Put the complete version of MS in its different versions for downloading. Having to copy and move and replace different files across folders is not very intuative for us computer idiots who only uses teh program and havenīt a clue how to program and such.
Sorry for the rant, but now MS steals the time it is suppose to win.
Lennart
Make a Sphere. Select a poly. Select an edge of the poly in edgemode.
Turn on HingeExtrude and set to Local. Chose AxisMode(The Gizmo shows up). CtrlShiftClick on the Edge. The Gizmo gets in the right position along the edge.
Drag one of the bands of the Gizmo to extrude...
BANG!
Cinema crashes.
I have restarted Cinema as well as the computor and run Coctail(For permissions and stuff)
I have reset MS in Preferences.
I must say, since MS is such a fantastic tool, PLEASE, make it more stable instead of putting more functions in it. Having to find new bugs is most frustrating while modeling.
Paul and Per, donīt fall into the usuall software syndrome to make MS more than it is(a fantastic modelling tool).
I personally could do without PaintObjects....
As someone elsewhere said: Put the complete version of MS in its different versions for downloading. Having to copy and move and replace different files across folders is not very intuative for us computer idiots who only uses teh program and havenīt a clue how to program and such.
Sorry for the rant, but now MS steals the time it is suppose to win.
Lennart
WQP
11-04-2003, 05:21 PM
Originally posted by moka-j
I can't figure out how to get the mesh surgery Axis to show - does it show when you use a Hinge tool, or always instead of the normal C4D axis , or when in object mode ????? Is there an option to turn on, or turn off???
I think I have the 1.11b correctly installed ( I got it from Paul/s site - ) I have the Face Axis tools for one thing...
Can anyone help?
thanks
jp
Are you sure that Superflange is disabled? This sounds like exactly waht Superflange does!
I can't figure out how to get the mesh surgery Axis to show - does it show when you use a Hinge tool, or always instead of the normal C4D axis , or when in object mode ????? Is there an option to turn on, or turn off???
I think I have the 1.11b correctly installed ( I got it from Paul/s site - ) I have the Face Axis tools for one thing...
Can anyone help?
thanks
jp
Are you sure that Superflange is disabled? This sounds like exactly waht Superflange does!
Gunter
11-04-2003, 06:19 PM
@tca
checked all according to your recipe. Got no prob, worked fine in 1.12
Gunter
checked all according to your recipe. Got no prob, worked fine in 1.12
Gunter
tcastudios
11-04-2003, 06:35 PM
Originally posted by Gunter
@tca
checked all according to your recipe. Got no prob, worked fine in 1.12
Thanks. One other have the same problem thu(at MS Forum). Iīm on Mac and he is on PC so something is up...
He got the crash after two extrusions.
I might put a "clean" version when 1.13 turnes up, instead of copy/paste xdl-files.
Lennart
@tca
checked all according to your recipe. Got no prob, worked fine in 1.12
Thanks. One other have the same problem thu(at MS Forum). Iīm on Mac and he is on PC so something is up...
He got the crash after two extrusions.
I might put a "clean" version when 1.13 turnes up, instead of copy/paste xdl-files.
Lennart
Per-Anders
11-04-2003, 09:47 PM
once again please download the 1.12 version that we have repeatedly told all to download (don't downlaod the 1.11b). Always use the version with the highest version number, don't go by date because we are in different time zones.
to get the axis to show, either scale it up from 0 in the preferences, or hit teh reset defaults button in the preferences.
tca studios, we have consistently fixed all bugs we've been told about in each update (yes even 1.1 fixed all known bugs from 1.0 even if it brought some more of it's own), thankyou for finding the new bug, and reporting it, it will be fixed in the next update.
to get the axis to show, either scale it up from 0 in the preferences, or hit teh reset defaults button in the preferences.
tca studios, we have consistently fixed all bugs we've been told about in each update (yes even 1.1 fixed all known bugs from 1.0 even if it brought some more of it's own), thankyou for finding the new bug, and reporting it, it will be fixed in the next update.
artemesia66
11-04-2003, 09:47 PM
i posted this on the MS forum as well, but there doesn't seem to be a ton of traffic there yet.
i don't seem to be able to interactively adjust the band length for the loop selection tools (point/edge/poly) the same way that i can in the katana tool (by holding down the shift key).
am i doing something wrong, or can anyone confirm this?
@tca: to help w debugging: i can't seem to replicate your problem. i'm on mac osx 10.2.8, MS 1.1.2
also, just wanted to say, in spite of a few hiccups, WHAT FREAKIN' AWESOME TOOLS!
i don't seem to be able to interactively adjust the band length for the loop selection tools (point/edge/poly) the same way that i can in the katana tool (by holding down the shift key).
am i doing something wrong, or can anyone confirm this?
@tca: to help w debugging: i can't seem to replicate your problem. i'm on mac osx 10.2.8, MS 1.1.2
also, just wanted to say, in spite of a few hiccups, WHAT FREAKIN' AWESOME TOOLS!
Per-Anders
11-04-2003, 09:52 PM
thanks, confirmed
tcastudios
11-04-2003, 10:07 PM
Originally posted by artemesia66
i don't seem to be able to interactively adjust the band length for the loop selection tools (point/edge/poly) the same way that i can in the katana tool (by holding down the shift key).
am i doing something wrong, or can anyone confirm this?
It works with Ctrl/Shift Move(Without clicking).
Lennart
i don't seem to be able to interactively adjust the band length for the loop selection tools (point/edge/poly) the same way that i can in the katana tool (by holding down the shift key).
am i doing something wrong, or can anyone confirm this?
It works with Ctrl/Shift Move(Without clicking).
Lennart
artemesia66
11-04-2003, 10:15 PM
@ lennart: hah! thank you. it seems from mdme_ sadie that it is supposed to be just shift, but in the short run, i'm happy just to have a way to make it work.
Per-Anders
11-04-2003, 10:51 PM
ah sorry, my mistake, it depends on the selection mode.
if it's "invert" then just shift should do it
if it's normal mode then you ahve to hold down shift+ctrl because otherwise it interferes with being able to add to teh selection by holding down shift and clicking.
if it's "invert" then just shift should do it
if it's normal mode then you ahve to hold down shift+ctrl because otherwise it interferes with being able to add to teh selection by holding down shift and clicking.
bobzilla
11-04-2003, 11:59 PM
Paul...
Here's a pic of the problem I mentioned earlier.
Doesn't the box seem bowed on the top and sides? All I did was make some quick loop cuts with Katena.
Here's a pic of the problem I mentioned earlier.
Doesn't the box seem bowed on the top and sides? All I did was make some quick loop cuts with Katena.
Per-Anders
11-05-2003, 12:05 AM
do you have either superflange or fuzzy smooth on currently? (i.e. with values higher than 0%)
bobzilla
11-05-2003, 12:18 AM
Yes and yes! Unkowingly. Is "on" now the default with Superflange? I also didn't realize the other options still affected the tool if Superflange was off.
The problem was fixed, but Superflange had to be unchecked AND fuzzy smooth was set to "0".
Thanks!
The problem was fixed, but Superflange had to be unchecked AND fuzzy smooth was set to "0".
Thanks!
JDP
11-05-2003, 02:32 AM
Hi,
has everbody received an update link from Paul as I'm still waiting.
has everbody received an update link from Paul as I'm still waiting.
tapaul
11-05-2003, 02:41 AM
please just send me an email , im about as organised a 747 crash landing :)
cheers
Paul
cheers
Paul
JDP
11-05-2003, 02:47 AM
Hi Paul,
I sent you one this morning and on saturday as my e-mail address has changed.I'll send it again now although you won't recognise me by my login name here so I'll put it in the Subject box.If you don't receive it soon plese let me know as there may be a problem with my new e-mail account.
I sent you one this morning and on saturday as my e-mail address has changed.I'll send it again now although you won't recognise me by my login name here so I'll put it in the Subject box.If you don't receive it soon plese let me know as there may be a problem with my new e-mail account.
tapaul
11-05-2003, 05:43 AM
you got it now?
cheers
Paul
cheers
Paul
kromekat
11-05-2003, 01:38 PM
:hmm:
Still waiting for my copy of the plugin full stop, let alone the update!
Hey guys!? - are you there?? - I paid over 30 hrs ago, can someone hwlp me out here! :rolleyes:
:drool: <---waiting... not so patiently
Still waiting for my copy of the plugin full stop, let alone the update!
Hey guys!? - are you there?? - I paid over 30 hrs ago, can someone hwlp me out here! :rolleyes:
:drool: <---waiting... not so patiently
JDP
11-05-2003, 02:37 PM
Originally posted by tapaul
you got it now?
cheers
Paul
No,it still hasn't shown up.Maybe you could send me the details in a Private Message or we could try a different e-mail address,
cheers JDP
you got it now?
cheers
Paul
No,it still hasn't shown up.Maybe you could send me the details in a Private Message or we could try a different e-mail address,
cheers JDP
JDP
11-05-2003, 04:06 PM
In the 1.11b archive in the scripts folder are three hidden files (._Pinch_Twirl ._Ramp ._Ripple) these show up in the scripts list on the basic tab of mesh brush so now there are two entries for these scripts,should these files be there,
regards,
JDP
regards,
JDP
kromekat
11-05-2003, 04:17 PM
:buttrock: :applause:
I now have it - and...:drool: ...wow!
Even better is use! :)
I now have it - and...:drool: ...wow!
Even better is use! :)
Per-Anders
11-05-2003, 10:20 PM
Originally posted by JDP
In the 1.11b archive in the scripts folder are three hidden files (._Pinch_Twirl ._Ramp ._Ripple) these show up in the scripts list on the basic tab of mesh brush so now there are two entries for these scripts,should these files be there,
regards,
JDP
no, they're just files that mac's with osx create for directory structure, you can dump em (even if your'e on an osx mac, cos i'll recreate them only invisibly).
In the 1.11b archive in the scripts folder are three hidden files (._Pinch_Twirl ._Ramp ._Ripple) these show up in the scripts list on the basic tab of mesh brush so now there are two entries for these scripts,should these files be there,
regards,
JDP
no, they're just files that mac's with osx create for directory structure, you can dump em (even if your'e on an osx mac, cos i'll recreate them only invisibly).
videodv
11-07-2003, 09:22 AM
No I am still waiting too, for the update link!
Videodv.
Videodv.
lllab
11-07-2003, 10:19 AM
hi,
i have one problem:
everytime i used the netclient on the same machine as my main cinema installation is, i have to reenter my serial for ms.
it askes the serial for the netclient all the time, AND it asksthe serial when i open cinema 4d main app again later.
is there a solution or is this a known bug that has already been adressed...?
my system win2k, cinema studiobundle8.2, a lot of plugins.
otherwise ms seems to be a very nice plug indeed:-)
thanks for help
lllab stefan
i have one problem:
everytime i used the netclient on the same machine as my main cinema installation is, i have to reenter my serial for ms.
it askes the serial for the netclient all the time, AND it asksthe serial when i open cinema 4d main app again later.
is there a solution or is this a known bug that has already been adressed...?
my system win2k, cinema studiobundle8.2, a lot of plugins.
otherwise ms seems to be a very nice plug indeed:-)
thanks for help
lllab stefan
tcastudios
11-07-2003, 11:19 AM
MS1.14
Using JigSaw the first poly of a mesh can be cut in an angel if you have the mousepointer outside of the poly.
Bug or feature?
Lennart
Using JigSaw the first poly of a mesh can be cut in an angel if you have the mousepointer outside of the poly.
Bug or feature?
Lennart
tcastudios
11-07-2003, 11:20 AM
And a whole cut around a plane.
Per-Anders
11-07-2003, 11:12 PM
response is in the mesh surgery forums.
oh and while i'm here, just showing how mesh brush can be used with bones (or any deformations really) and vertexmaps to paint the deformation and see if affecting the mesh on the fly, so you can make sure you get it right :)
http://www.peranders.com/c4d8/ms/mov/paintbonemapinplace.swf.html
(and here's how that's done)
http://www.tools4d.com/MeshSurgery/flashclips/livedeform.html
oh and while i'm here, just showing how mesh brush can be used with bones (or any deformations really) and vertexmaps to paint the deformation and see if affecting the mesh on the fly, so you can make sure you get it right :)
http://www.peranders.com/c4d8/ms/mov/paintbonemapinplace.swf.html
(and here's how that's done)
http://www.tools4d.com/MeshSurgery/flashclips/livedeform.html
lllab
11-08-2003, 01:36 PM
response is in the mesh surgery forums.
...where are the mesh surgery forums???
thanks
lllab
...where are the mesh surgery forums???
thanks
lllab
lllab
11-08-2003, 02:13 PM
ups..i found it....
it would be good to hjave a direct link to it from the ms website.
cheers
stefan
lllab
it would be good to hjave a direct link to it from the ms website.
cheers
stefan
lllab
brammelo
11-13-2003, 02:17 PM
Hi Paul, hello Per,
I have an item to add to the MS wishlist. Beveling corners has always been difficult in C4D - at least, until version 8. Extruding edges the right way gets you where you want - eventually. It's exactly this "eventually" that I would like to see dissapear.
In Maya, when you use the bevel command, it not only rounds the selected corners (instead of also enlarging your model like C4D does), but it also lets you set a division factor. If you would like to round a corner by using 6 divisions, you do just that - in one go.
I would be nice to see the same option in MS: bevel/round a corner with a division factor that can be set.
On a side note: MS is a dream come true - still :)
Cheers,
BaRa
I have an item to add to the MS wishlist. Beveling corners has always been difficult in C4D - at least, until version 8. Extruding edges the right way gets you where you want - eventually. It's exactly this "eventually" that I would like to see dissapear.
In Maya, when you use the bevel command, it not only rounds the selected corners (instead of also enlarging your model like C4D does), but it also lets you set a division factor. If you would like to round a corner by using 6 divisions, you do just that - in one go.
I would be nice to see the same option in MS: bevel/round a corner with a division factor that can be set.
On a side note: MS is a dream come true - still :)
Cheers,
BaRa
joefitzm
11-13-2003, 06:24 PM
hey everyone. i was using a student version of C4D and purchased MS the first day it became available. When my commercial version came, i reinstalled C4D and placed the plugin in the correct directory. when i opened C4D i was asked for serial numbers, including MS. i entered them all in and the program opened fine but MS is not showing up under the plugin menu?
any suggestions?
thanks!
joe
any suggestions?
thanks!
joe
chromecity
11-13-2003, 06:39 PM
Do the first 11 digits of your commercial version's serial number differ from the first 11 digits of your student version's serial number? If so, then the serial number you received from Per or Paul is keyed to your student version and will not work with the commercial version. And if that's the case, you'll have to contact whichever one of them that you purchased it from to inquire about getting a new serial number keyed to your commercial version.
joefitzm
11-13-2003, 07:25 PM
thanks jeff!
that has to be the reason. i emailed per about it a few days ago and am awaiting a response. i am having a hard time living without this plugin!
:cry:
that has to be the reason. i emailed per about it a few days ago and am awaiting a response. i am having a hard time living without this plugin!
:cry:
rodney71
11-14-2003, 05:40 PM
I love the plugin but have been having frequent program crashes when using the various mesh brush tool settings and experimenting. The last time I was simply using the brush in vertex paint mode on a plane. It never seems to crash right away when I start using it, just at random times. I've tried removing other plugins to make sure they are not the culprit. I'm working on a PC Athlon system, 1.5 gig RAM and using the 1.15 version. Is anyone else finding the same?
rodney71
11-14-2003, 05:46 PM
Love the Plugin...however,
I'm finding frequent sporadic crashes of C4D when using the mesh brush tool with various settings...the last one was in vertex painting mode. I've been experimenting with simple plane objects. It never crashes right away, but at random (seemingly) times as I brush. Running on PC Athlon, 1.5 gig RAM, C4D 8.2
I've tried stripping down my plugins folder to eliminate the possibility of conflicts. still happens. Using the most recent 1.15 update of Mesh Surgery.
Is anyone else having this?
I'm finding frequent sporadic crashes of C4D when using the mesh brush tool with various settings...the last one was in vertex painting mode. I've been experimenting with simple plane objects. It never crashes right away, but at random (seemingly) times as I brush. Running on PC Athlon, 1.5 gig RAM, C4D 8.2
I've tried stripping down my plugins folder to eliminate the possibility of conflicts. still happens. Using the most recent 1.15 update of Mesh Surgery.
Is anyone else having this?
rodney71
11-14-2003, 05:48 PM
Love the Plugin...however,
I'm finding frequent sporadic crashes of C4D when using the mesh brush tool with various settings...the last one was in vertex painting mode. I've been experimenting with simple plane objects. It never crashes right away, but at random (seemingly) times as I brush. Running on PC Athlon, 1.5 gig RAM, C4D 8.2
I've tried stripping down my plugins folder to eliminate the possibility of conflicts. still happens. Using the most recent 1.15 update of Mesh Surgery.
Is anyone else having this?
I'm finding frequent sporadic crashes of C4D when using the mesh brush tool with various settings...the last one was in vertex painting mode. I've been experimenting with simple plane objects. It never crashes right away, but at random (seemingly) times as I brush. Running on PC Athlon, 1.5 gig RAM, C4D 8.2
I've tried stripping down my plugins folder to eliminate the possibility of conflicts. still happens. Using the most recent 1.15 update of Mesh Surgery.
Is anyone else having this?
flingster
11-14-2003, 06:55 PM
i get sporadic crashing...very random not narrowed it down yet and unlike you i've not removed my other plugs any of which could be causing crash i suppose. seems to happen contantly changing between modes eg edge/point/poly and back again...then using poly loops and edge loops....but i'm unable to narrow it down more than that at moment...will let you know if i can...
anyway any known bugs or crashing please report them to the mesh surgery forums.
:shrug:
(its such a part of my workflow now i can't really understand how i did things before really...kinda creeps up at ya like that absolutely love it and speeds my snail like modelling to something semi acceptable...for that you guys have got a big thumbs up from me)
anyway any known bugs or crashing please report them to the mesh surgery forums.
:shrug:
(its such a part of my workflow now i can't really understand how i did things before really...kinda creeps up at ya like that absolutely love it and speeds my snail like modelling to something semi acceptable...for that you guys have got a big thumbs up from me)
WQP
11-14-2003, 07:03 PM
I've got the same problem - sporadic crashing. Often with Katana, but also with Mesh Brush...seems to be switching too or from one of the tools...but totally sporadic and random.
Glad to hear it's not just only having 512MB!
But suffice to say, Mesh Surgery is soooo handy that I still use it constantly, even with crash bugs. Hopefully they can trace those crash bugs though!
Glad to hear it's not just only having 512MB!
But suffice to say, Mesh Surgery is soooo handy that I still use it constantly, even with crash bugs. Hopefully they can trace those crash bugs though!
Per-Anders
11-14-2003, 07:40 PM
Originally posted by brammelo
Hi Paul, hello Per,
I have an item to add to the MS wishlist. Beveling corners has always been difficult in C4D - at least, until version 8. Extruding edges the right way gets you where you want - eventually. It's exactly this "eventually" that I would like to see dissapear.
In Maya, when you use the bevel command, it not only rounds the selected corners (instead of also enlarging your model like C4D does), but it also lets you set a division factor. If you would like to round a corner by using 6 divisions, you do just that - in one go.
I would be nice to see the same option in MS: bevel/round a corner with a division factor that can be set.
On a side note: MS is a dream come true - still :)
Cheers,
BaRa
you say you're using the extrude on edges. try using bevel on the edges instead.
Hi Paul, hello Per,
I have an item to add to the MS wishlist. Beveling corners has always been difficult in C4D - at least, until version 8. Extruding edges the right way gets you where you want - eventually. It's exactly this "eventually" that I would like to see dissapear.
In Maya, when you use the bevel command, it not only rounds the selected corners (instead of also enlarging your model like C4D does), but it also lets you set a division factor. If you would like to round a corner by using 6 divisions, you do just that - in one go.
I would be nice to see the same option in MS: bevel/round a corner with a division factor that can be set.
On a side note: MS is a dream come true - still :)
Cheers,
BaRa
you say you're using the extrude on edges. try using bevel on the edges instead.
Per-Anders
11-14-2003, 07:43 PM
Originally posted by rodney71
I love the plugin but have been having frequent program crashes when using the various mesh brush tool settings and experimenting. The last time I was simply using the brush in vertex paint mode on a plane. It never seems to crash right away when I start using it, just at random times. I've tried removing other plugins to make sure they are not the culprit. I'm working on a PC Athlon system, 1.5 gig RAM and using the 1.15 version. Is anyone else finding the same?
A note to everyone. Don't use the Mesh Brush Script for Vertex painting. Firstly it seems that on some machines it causes a crash, and secondly it's only meant as an example for scripters to show how to use interface elements. There is an inbuilt Vertexpaint brush in the left hand "Brushes" menu... just above the selection brush. Use this instead.
I love the plugin but have been having frequent program crashes when using the various mesh brush tool settings and experimenting. The last time I was simply using the brush in vertex paint mode on a plane. It never seems to crash right away when I start using it, just at random times. I've tried removing other plugins to make sure they are not the culprit. I'm working on a PC Athlon system, 1.5 gig RAM and using the 1.15 version. Is anyone else finding the same?
A note to everyone. Don't use the Mesh Brush Script for Vertex painting. Firstly it seems that on some machines it causes a crash, and secondly it's only meant as an example for scripters to show how to use interface elements. There is an inbuilt Vertexpaint brush in the left hand "Brushes" menu... just above the selection brush. Use this instead.
Per-Anders
11-14-2003, 07:47 PM
BTW Once again guys, please use our forums for posting bugs questions to do with Mesh Surgery as you'll have a higher chance of me or Paul responding there, also seeing as many questions and bug reports have already been answered there. Once again, you recieved an email containing all the information about where the forums are but here they are again
http://forum.peranders.com
http://forum.peranders.com
ThirdEye
11-16-2003, 06:11 PM
Since PA has put a forum up there's no reason anymore to have this thread still sticky.
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